What does seem to be Rocket Science for you or anyone else on this thread to grasp is the actual question no one is answering and the essence of everything she has said, which is also what I have written about extensively. I dont expect you to acknowledge it in an intellectually honesty way because you never seem capable of doing that when speaking with Christians, but the basic premise both her and I are speaking about is the essential aspect of Substitutionary Atonement as practiced in the Temple by the Jews for 1000's of years. This is a Historical and Biblical Fact that Islam nor any other Religious Ideology incorporates into its underlying tenets.
If Islam was actually a follow up to the Religion of Abraham, Issac, Jacob, Moses and all the other Patriarchs, if Islam was the Worship of YHWH their God then it stands as not only reason but simple fact that the aspect most central to their Culture as mandated by YHWH, which is Sacrifice for Sin, aka Blood Atonement, would be somehow dealt with or at the very very minimum spoken about, however in Islam as you so joyfully show, it has no concept or place. It is as tho the god of Islam cares not about Blood Atonement, whereas the God of Israel, the Patriarchs, of Jesus 100% cares about Blood Atonement considering all the Patriarchs practiced Blood Atonement of Sacrifice and YHWH Himself created a Law detailing the purpose of such a thing.
You feint to show that somehow Islam and Judaism have more in common with each other than with Christianity when clearly it doesnt, because if it had ANY semblance of commonality with Judaism it would acknowledge and deal with the necessity of Sacrifice for Sin. Literally the ONLY thing it slightly resembles is the idea of Dietary Law (which they are actually wholly different and no Jew on Earth would eat Halal Food as it is Food prepared to a false god in their eyes) and even then they dont agree on all foods and how they are to be prepared. Thats it, this nonsense about worshiping One God is again willful ignorance as it has been stated a billion times over Christians only Worship One God. In Judaism the act of Sacrifice for Sin is necessary regardless of what KM likes to say in his hypocritical stance of Obedience to the Law aka the same Law that mandates Sacrifice for Sin.
What Karly keeps trying to point out is that the ONE superficial commonality you can point to in Islam (Diet Law which again is actually different between Islam and Judaism which if it was the same God and the follow up of the same God they ought to be IDENTICAL) in no way can compare to the fact that Islam in no way acknowledges the essential ideology of Sacrifice for Sin that was practiced in Israel towards the God of Abraham et al for 1000's of years. As she stated there isnt even a Priesthood mentioned in Islam which again makes zero sense if it is the follow up to Judaism or the God of Abraham that clearly mandates a Priesthood. However in Christianity the most essential doctrines of Judaism are actually dealt with, spoken about and more over are the SAME essential doctrines found in Judaism. The ONLY one that doesnt weigh heavily would be the Dietary Laws, yet that is actually ADDRESSED and spoken of by Christianity vs totally ignore it and then act like it never mattered or exists such as is the case for Islam concerning the most essential doctrine laid out by YHWH.
I wrote a whole big post that you ignored, probably because you helped spark the Gospel going out thru it and I credited you for it, thanks again, that showed just how many animals were Sacrificed in a year just by the state of Israel. The central aspect of Blood Atonement is clearly spelled out not only in the Law of Moses, but also in practice by the State of Israel. Islam and ALL other Religions completely ignore this, however in Christianity this is a central Doctrine just as it was to the Patriarchs. Jesus Christ IS the High Priest, therefore Christianity continues on the ideology of Priesthood as mandated by YHWH the God of Abraham. Jesus Christ IS the Sacrifice, therefore Christianity continues on the ideology of Sacrifice as mandated by YHWH the God of Abraham. Jesus Christ IS the Blood Atonement for Sin, therefore Christianity continues the ideology of Blood Atonement as mandated by YHWH the God of Abraham.
Just as these 3 ideologies were the Central Doctrines of the Religion of Abraham and the Patriarchs so too are these 3 ideologies the Central Doctrines of Christianity, why? Because Christ is the FULFILLMENT of everything spoken of in the Old Testament. We can clearly see that Islam CAN NOT be the follow up to the Religion established by Abraham and the Patriarchs because the god of Islam does NOT care in the least about the thing that was MOST IMPORTANT to the God of Israel, YWHW. YHWH is NOT the god of Islam, and Islam does not worship the God of Israel or the Patriarchs, if it did then 100% there would be inclusion of the systematic influence of Sacrifice for Sin...
YHWH stated that He would send someone to bear the Sin of the World, He created an entire Culture and Nation that put the Sacrifice of the Innocent in place of the Guilty for Redemption of Sin. Every Holy Day of YHWH involves Sacrifice, in fact the MOST HOLIEST DAY of the God of Abraham is 100% founded and revolves around the Sacrifice of the Innocent for the Atonement of Sins!!! Its called Yom Kippour which means what? The Day of ATONEMENT!!! All of the Holy Days point to Christ, everything that happened in the Temple points to Christ, in fact the set up and everything IN the Temple points to Christ, the traditions held during the Holy Days point to Christ, all the Old Testament Scriptures point to Christ, everything having anything to do with the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob all point to Christ coming to be the Final Sacrifice for all of mankind to be the Atonement and the method by which all Sin is purged!!
KM made an argument earlier where he said:
I dont fear being guilty because God didnt set up for me a pries t,temple
Heres the problem with his own argument and one in which he will have to acknowledge one day, hopefully while he is still alive. If God has set up a Priest for Him in a Temple that made Sacrifices on his behalf and he rejected the Priest, the Temple and the Sacrifice, well then he is guilty. The facts are God has set up a Priest for him, He set one up for you and me and everyone else. God also set up a Temple, one made without hands, for him and you and me. And that Priest has made a Sacrifice on his behalf, and my and your behalf as well.
Heb 6:20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
Jesus IS his High Priest, and mine and yours...
Heb 6:26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;
27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.
28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.
Jesus IS the Sacrifice for his your and mine Sin...
Heb 9:11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
Jesus entered into the Holiest of Holies in the Temple in Heaven and placed the Blood on the Altar for the Redemption of Sin for him, and for you and for I as well!!! If you understand the most Holiest Day in Israel, the Day of ATONEMENT, then you would understand just how significant what it is that Scriptures is saying here. During the Day of ATONEMENT, the High Priest who NEVER could enter into the Holiest of Holies would go on that day and that day ALONE to sprinkle Blood on the Mercy Seat for the ATONEMENT of everyone. Jesus Himself entered into the REAL Holiest of Holies in Heave and He Himself applied the Blood for the ATONEMENT of everyone!! Praise the Lord!!!
So the reality of the sitituation is that KM does have a High Priest who did come and did present a Sacrifice and placed the Blood of the Sacrifice upon the Altar for his Atonement, and just as KM knows if he rejected the High Priest doing such a thing during the temple era he would be guilty before God, so too it stands that since all has been done in accordance with the Law by the High Priest in the Temple then since he rejects it he now stands guilty before God. That also goes for you too Kung Fu and every other person on Earth who rejects the Offering given for them.
The Good News is that EVERYONE has the opportunity to accept the Atonement that was made for them, they dont have to have certain linage, they dont have to be some person of prestige, they dont have to try and work for it by doing this or that Religious Task, that you know you cant keep up forever, every day, you dont have to do anything at all other than acknowledge that you are a Sinner in need of Redemption and call out by Faith and Believe in Christ that He has done just what He said He would do for you!!!
That He has done everything the Old Testament said He would come to do, that He would fulfill what the ENTIRE CULTURE OF ISRAEL was founded around, which is that He came to die on the Cross to take upon Himself all the Wrath you and I deserve and that He became the Perfect Lamb that was Sacrificed on the Cross and that He Himself went into Heaven into the Holiest of Hoilies and placed the Blood upon the Altar and He has made ATONEMENT for you and I and everyone else!!! Praise the Lord, Jesus is so Great and Wonderful, Jesus is so loving, I am so very thankful for Christ and knowing without a DOUBT that all of Sins are Forgiven!!!!
All of you can have that same assurance today!!! All of you can experience the wonderful joy of a knowing you will never go to Hell because of what Christ did for you!!! All of you can experience and know first hand the One True God and enter into a Personal Relationship with Him today, where you can cry out to Him and know He has literally experienced everything you are going thru Himself!!! That God isnt some far off God looking down to far out of reach to understand exactly the temptations you are facing, and how to overcome them. That God isnt so far off that He cant understand the fear you are plagued with at times in life, that He cant truly know the evils of the World that beset you!!!
I hope someone truly begins to search out Christ in their lives to understand His great Love and come to have that Personal Relationship today, there is nothing better in life that knowing Jesus Christ as your Personal Savior!!! I know Him and more importantly I know He knows me, because He called me by name the day He saved me!!! Thank you Jesus!!!!