This is a continuation of the examination of an e-book that is repeatedly recommended by a new religion's believers. JAHtruth is the religion, Anthony John Hill is the founder. Part one here
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In this first entry, I am re-posting links that are essential to have either in reference or at least for easy access.
Here are the essential religious texts:
The king of king's bible: AJH's (alleged) self-translated bible and quran + several Gnostic books. [In reality, words altered and inserted to fit AJH's new teachings] Important note: despite repeated requests over many threads for ANY proof that AJH had any training in translating biblical languages, no-one has provided any evidence of that ever.
“In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. And God saw that the light was...
I hope future readers unfamilar to the JAHtruth religion really see the difference between JAHtruth supporters' entries and CHristians' entries now. @A Freeman, I see you returned to a basic reformat of the cut-and-pasting you do at any opportunity. When "The way home or face the fire"...
"Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, I was there. And now the Lord GOD and His Spirit Have sent Me" God is speaking here and says that God and His spirit sent him to speak. here’s a verse of the 3 in 1, freeman was lying as...
@JoChris - I noticed that @A Freeman rejects the notion of the three part nature of man in favour of an alternate JAHtruth formulation.
I wonder how the following passage can be explained?
1 Thessalonians 5
23And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.
Might be worth cross checking with the KoK translation??
@A Freeman, I am reminding you that I quote the ebook's sentences in FULL so I cannot be wrongly accused of lying via quoting words/phrases out of context. I quote "The way home or catch the fire" in red for purely innocent reasons as well. It is the brightest colour. There is no hidden symbolism there.
---- CHAPTER 3 The Creation of human-animals.
On page 16 there is a yin/yang symbol , with pink and blue named on the image.
I thought that colouring choice wasn't the usual colour. It is the westerner's choice of blue and pink to reveal the baby's sex after all.
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On left side of symbol: One Flesh. Matt.19:5-6 Mark 10:6-9
As usual JAHtruth took it out of context. It is not about body-mind-spirit.
Matthew 19:3-6 - pharisees asking Jesus about marriage and if divorce is permitted.
5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
Mark 10:1-9 6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;
8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.
9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
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On the right side of symbol:Messages for the Medical World “The good news & the bad news.”
That is a good indicator of the subject AJH is going to introduce in chapter 3.
I just listened to a fairly short but stressful introductory video on esoteric Christianity. The snooty condescending tone really bugged me at times too.
No wonder why those drawn to secret meanings and works righteousness would rather believe esoteric Christianity instead of the simple Gospel. Only those with enough inner wisdom, who communicate DIRECTLY with God etc will be able to understand the TRUE secret esoteric meanings.
It is AJH's theology minus the Star Wars -type storyline.
Heavenly Father, I ask you protect all those curious enough watch this video to not be seduced by its teachings - that instead you use it as a laser beam to expose AJH's true teachings - in Jesus' name.
So that the perpetrator cannot pretend to be the victim, please see the following links for the documented evidence of the repeated use of lies, false accusations, bearing false witness against others along with numerous logical fallacies.
Please also see where @JoChris wishing ill on others, particularly on JAH, e.g. here, here, here and here., where she seems fixated on the death of His body (which is prophesied in Scripture to occur immediately before the Reaping begins - see: Matt. 24:28; Luke 17:37).
When the time comes that old age hits Anthony John Hill properly - and frankly I wish God would press the fast-forward button - I expect that he will find excuses to permit drugs/ surgery for himself somehow.
If this is the kind of shamefully dishonest and disgusting behavior that can be expected of so-called Christians, why would anyone want to be one? And why would anyone (other than similarly deranged individuals) listen to anything such deceitful people have to say?
ALL organized religions are CORPORATE FICTIONS, in business to make money while teaching their paying customers their CULTural traditions and proprietary system of beliefs (links below are NOT an endorsement of Zionist controlled Wikipedia).
Those who are exposing the TRUTH about all of these corporate fictional organized religions and advising people to come out of ALL of them, and do not exhibit ANY of the trademarks of organized religion (no place of business, i.e. church, synagogue, mosque, temple, etc., no "worship" services, no idols, no preacher, etc. drawing a salary, no pagan "holidays" to celebrate, etc.), are very clearly NOT an organized religion themselves.
Christ is NOT a "Jew", nor a "Christian", nor a "Muslim", nor a "Buddhist", nor a Hindu, Tao. Sikh, nor a member of any organized religion. Christ was and still is taught everything He knows by His Father (John 5:19-20), rather than the spiritually-blind "experts" and "scholars" or organized religion, who mocked Christ when He was in the body of Jesus making the same claims regarding His "Qualifications".
John 7:14-19
7:14 Now about the midst of the feast Jesus went up into The Temple, and taught.
7:15 And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man "Letters", having never been taught?
7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but His that sent me.
7:17 If any man will do His will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or [whether] I speak of myself.
7:18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh His glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.
7:19 Did not Moses give you The Law, and [yet] none of you keepeth The Law? Why go ye about to kill me?
And yet somehow, deranged (i.e. insane) individuals calling themselves "Christians", who either have no concept what the word/number ONE (1) means, or don't care, claim that God is supposedly 3-persons-in-one. These are allegedly 3 equal individuals, so that The Father = The Son = The Holy Spirit. Is the FACT that Christ, The Son, plainly and unsuprisingly stated that His Father was GREATER THAN (NOT "equal to") everyone else, including Christ (John 10:29; 13:16; 14:28), somehow just ignored, or considered to be untruthful (John 14:6) by "Christians"?
If "Christians" lack the basic understanding of the difference between one, two and three (something most toddlers children know), then how can anyone take ANYTHING they say seriously?
John 17:3 And THIS is Life Eternal, that they might KNOW Thee the ONLY True God, AND Christ the Saviour, whom Thou hast sent.
2) Christ Himself told us in no uncertain terms that His body (Jesus) would be buried in the heart of the earth for THREE (3) DAYS AND THREE (3) NIGHTS, comparing it to the exact same period of time that Jonah spent in the belly of the whale.
Matthew 12:39-40
12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and unfaithfull generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the Prophet Jonah:
12:40 For as Jonah was THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of Man be THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS in the heart of the earth.
So what do "Christians" teach each other? That Jesus allegedly died late Friday afternoon, and rose early Sunday morning, after spending less than 2 days and 2 nights in the heart of the earth (the tomb of Joseph of Arimathaea, Jesus' great uncle).
Are "Christians" really unable to count to three (3)?
People who cannot count to three (3), and/or don't know the difference between one (1), two (2) and three (3) are proving beyond any reasonable doubt that they are either incapable of or determined to avoid using their God-given common-sense. THINK about it.
The greatest threat to mankind isn’t a manufactured global pandemic, famine, or even WW3; it is the deliberate, systematic elimination of rational thought.
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Anyone who hasn't mastered simple number recognition is no position to offer a rational opinion on ANYTHING, having proven they are either incapable or unwilling to engage in rational thought or discussion.
You made the claim that I wish death upon AJH in quite a few entries.
In several of them I am asking you point blank what YOU will do when AJH dies. He was born in 1948. He is now 75 years old. You and any other JAHtruth believers have probably built your life around this man as well as his teachings.
Even if your religion just fades away and you even become ex-believers, I am concerned you all will reject the true Jesus...
Let's say for some incredible reason I decided that Anthony John Hill is inspired, what he says is the truth and therefore JAHtruth should be obeyed no matter what outsiders say:
would I be told I must stop taking my medicines because I should not doubt God?
Are you ever going to answer my question whether I would be told to have faith in AJH's god and stop taking my medicines...
How do you explain all the people being cured of diseases because of surgery e.g. appendicitis?
When I had to give morphine to elderly people who were in excruciating pain from terminal cancer, in the last days of their lives literally:
Would AJH tell me I should tell them to look inside themself for the reason they had pain and take responsibility for the life they lived (instead of providing the medicine that made it possible for nurses to turn them without them screaming in pain)?
I have another one to add now:
Is your refusal to answer me because I chose to be immunised with the COVID vaccine? DId I receive the Mark of the Beast according to AJH?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul#Religious_views Soul - In many religious and philosophical traditions, there is a belief in "an immaterial aspect or essence of a living being", generally applied to humans, called the soul.[1]In lay terms, the soul is thespiritual essence of a person, which includes one's identity, personality, and memories that is believed to be able to survive physical death.
Jinn does not equal soul.
--- God decided to create human-animals, that would blend in with the rest of nature. These creatures would be living animals, breathing air and having the same body-functions as the others.
Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
---- 3:2 They would also have to have the same selfish animal-instincts, i.e. living by survival of the fittest, but would not be evil....
That is Darwinism. Survival of the fittest - brittanica.com
... Darwin’s theory of evolution by natural selection entailed three crucial elements: variation, reproduction, and heritability. Variations in the physical features of organisms that tend to benefit an individual (or a species) in the struggle for existence are preserved and passed on (or selected), because the individuals (or species) that have them tend to survive....
(animals are not evil, like you, they are only animals, and do not know any better, than to live by following their natural, animal-instincts).
AJH appears to agree man has a sin nature there.
--- 3:3 So God created Adam (Man); then created Eve (Woman) from Adam’s rib, making her flesh of his flesh and bone of his bone; and He gave the simple story to Moses in Genesis, and later to Mohammed, in the Koran.
He is correct about Genesis, but not the Quran.
Genesis 2:21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
22 And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
The details regarding how Eve was created is not mentioned in the Quran....
The hadith or traditions of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) further reveal that Eve was created from Adam’s rib which was taken while he was asleep.
3:4 Listing the family-trees, of all the people, would have made Genesis, the Bible and the Koran into a library of 10-20 volumes, and they are already so big, that many people allow Satan to intimidate them, into not reading them, because of their size.
Definitely true!!!!
---- 3:5 Once the human-animals had been created, God breathed life into them (human-life - Sura 15:29).
https://quran.com/15?startingVerse=28 15:28˹Remember, O Prophet˺ when your Lord said to the angels, “I am going to create a human being from sounding clay moulded from black mud.
15:29 So when I have fashioned him and had a spirit of My Own ˹creation˺ breathed into him, fall down in prostration to him.”
Like the bible, that does not sound like the Quran teaches man is a human-animal.
3:6 Lucifer and his angels (you) were then given a CHOICE, and had to decide, whether or not to submit to human limitations and being reprogrammed to be good, little by little, over many human lifetimes and thousands of Earth years, or to sit and wait for “The Fire” to destroy you (Sura 15:30)
AJH really should have given whole passages for references, but of course that would prove he contradicts the Quran too.
So the angels prostrated all together— but not Iblîs*,1 who refused to prostrate with the others. Allah asked, “O Iblîs! What is the matter with you that you did not join others in prostration?” He replied, “It is not for me to prostrate to a human You created from sounding clay moulded from black mud.” Allah commanded, “Then get out of Paradise, for you are truly cursed. And surely upon you is condemnation until the Day of Judgment.” ....
Iblis (Arabic: إِبْلِيس, romanized: Iblīs),[1] alternatively known as Eblīs,[2] is the leader of the devils (shayāṭīn) in Islam. According to the Quran, Iblis was thrown out of heaven, after he refused to prostrate himself before Adam....
EDIT: @A Freeman correctly pointed out it was Jinns, not Satan. 3:7 All the evil angels/Jinns (you), except Lucifer (Iblis) himself, CHOSE to submit to being locked inside of Adams and Eves, making human+beings There is NOTHING in the bible to suggest Satan submitted to a command of God to be locked inside of people.
Note Adams and Eves are PLURAL. AJH proves beyond all doubt he does not believe in the Book of Genesis there.
(Rev. 3:7 - “He that closes and no man opens and He that opens and no man closes”).
That is a shocking misquote of scripture.
Reminder: Genesis is the first book of the bible (creation, fall of man and early history). Revelation is the last book of the bible. Revelation 3:7 -13
Revelation 3:7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;
8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.
---- 3:8 Later, when Jesus said to his disciples, “These things I do, you will do and more than these” (John 14:12),
This was said at the Last Supper. Whole John chapter 14.
AJH gave only a section of the sentence:
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
The apostles did do many more things after Jesus ascended to Heaven in Acts chapter 1, read the rest of the Book of Acts. Under the power of the Holy Spirit they went far and wide, spreading the Gospel, doing miracles amongst the Jews AND the Gentiles.
------ ... he was referring to, if and when they earned their pardons, they would be given back their divinity and super-human powers (1), which would allow them to do even more incredible things, than he could do whilst locked inside the “son of Mary”(2).
There is nothing to support that in the bible.
Those claims deserves separate threads.
----- Remember, that he too had had to submit to human limitations, so that people could see him, and follow his example....
But Jesus was still fully God, as well as fully man according to the BIBLE.
In his incarnation, the Son of God assumed a complete human nature—body, soul, mind, and will—into personal union with himself. He did not assume a distinct human person, since he is already a divine person, but rather he gave personhood to the human nature that he assumed. As a human, Jesus experienced all the ordinary, non-sinful limitations of humanity. He grew and developed. He experienced hunger, thirst, weariness, and the full range of human emotions. His humanity was as integral to his saving work as his divinity. As the true human, the last Adam, he lived out obedience to God through our common humanity as our representative and substitute: through his life, death, and resurrection, he merits salvation for all who are united to him by faith. As a human, he also serves as our example, providing a model for true human obedience.
----- ... (I am The Way you have to be).
There is nothing in the bible that sounds like that. The only search result "I am the way you have to be" via Google is JAHtruth's book. Duckduckgo doesn't give one result.
No, @lightseeker did no such thing. This is yet another LIE.
All he did was employ yet another logical fallacy (tu quoque), where he childishly offered his worthless opinion without any evidence whatsoever. But that's what irrational people do, believing that their opinion should somehow count as evidence.
You know or should know that you made numerous false accusations, but instead of apologizing for them, you stand by your LIES and false accusations so you can pretend that you are somehow a victim when, in fact, you are the perpetrator of false and misleading information and personal (ad hominem) attacks..
Again, another LIE. No "claim" was personally made; the EVIDENCE of what you actually said was provided for all to see, so that they can make their minds up for themselves.
Why do you feel the need to LIE so often? Are you now going to pretend that you didn't say the following?
When the time comes that old age hits Anthony John Hill properly - and frankly I wish God would press the fast-forward button - I expect that he will find excuses to permit drugs/ surgery for himself somehow. A new revelation *translation* loophole that Jesus reincarnated deserves special treatment because he is a god after all.
And your question has been answered MULTIPLE times, providing you with the exact verses what tell us what everyone in the world will do when that happens. Please find them again below:
The ENTIRE world will mourn and wail when that happens when the body that Christ is currently using (JAH) dies, because at that exact moment, everyone's eyes will be opened and they will realize that there is no more time left to REPENT, as the Reaping will begin.
Religion should be (and really is) a bonded obligation to God, which is ETERNAL and thus can NEVER fade away. But in today's terms, that word has been twisted into the corporate fictional organized religions that fill the world today, with their pagan traditions, rites, rituals and superstitions.
You are here presumably to defend you particular delusion, i.e. "Christianity", which is very loosely based on the misinterpretations of the letters of Paul and going to church, to listen to a priest, pastor, etc., that Christ called "the blind leading the blind" (Matt. 15:14). "Christianity" totally ignores what the REAL Christ said through the mouth of Jesus 2000 years ago, because IF it embraced Christ's TRUE Teachings, it would require taking personal action in the form of daily "self" crucifixion
(see: Matt. 10:38; Mark 8:34; Luke 9:23; and Luke 14:26-27) and the DOING of God's Will (Matt. 6:10), which begins with the keeping of God's Perfect Law (Matt. 5:17-20).
Let's say for some incredible reason I decided that Anthony John Hill is inspired, what he says is the truth and therefore JAHtruth should be obeyed no matter what outsiders say:
would I be told I must stop taking my medicines because I should not doubt God?
Are you ever going to answer my question whether I would be told to have faith in AJH's god and stop taking my medicines...
How do you explain all the people being cured of diseases because of surgery e.g. appendicitis?
When I had to give morphine to elderly people who were in excruciating pain from terminal cancer, in the last days of their lives literally:
Would AJH tell me I should tell them to look inside themself for the reason they had pain and take responsibility for the life they lived (instead of providing the medicine that made it possible for nurses to turn them without them screaming in pain)?
I have another one to add now:
Is your refusal to answer me because I chose to be immunised with the COVID vaccine? DId I receive the Mark of the Beast according to AJH?
And all of these questions had already been answered, so it was deceitful and a waste of everyone's time for you to pretend as if they had not been answered.
3:7 All the evil angels/Jinns (you), except Lucifer (Iblis) himself, CHOSE to submit to being locked inside of Adams and Eves, making human+beings
There is NOTHING in the bible to suggest Satan submitted to a command of God to be locked inside of people.
The quoted verse does NOT say that "Satan submitted to a command of God to be locked inside of people"; it says the exact opposite. it says that everyone EXCEPT Lucifer (Iblis, aka Satan) chose to submit to being locked inside of Adams and Eves.
Why are you falsely claiming the exact opposite of what the verse actually says? So that you can attack it again with another one of your strawman arguments?
So you are denying that Adam and Eve were humans, and that their descendants (the descendants of Adam and Eve - aka Adams/male humans and Eves/female humans) were not the ones who populated the Earth, including Noah and his family?
You are being petty, dishonest and totally ridiculous.
Jesus was referred to as a "son of David". Of course that was merely a descriptive expression, as Jesus was obviously NOT a literal first-generation son of king David, but a descendant of king David, 28 generations later (Matt. 1:1-17), who can likewise trace His (Jesus) lineage back to Adam and Eve (Luke 3:23-38). It's simply an easy way of saying "great, great, great (a couple of dozen more times) grand-SON.
The only thing shocking here is your lack of knowledge of Scripture.
Revelation 3:7 And to the angel of the community in Philadelphia write; THESE THINGS SAITH HE THAT IS HOLY, HE THAT IS TRUE, HE THAT HATH THE KEY OF DAVID (i.e. Christ), he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;
The verse is literally quoting Christ, and is exactly what Christ actually said. So it very obviously has NOT been misquoted, as you are again FALSELY claiming. Why do you feel the need to LIE so often?
Reminder: Genesis is the first book of the bible (creation, fall of man and early history). Revelation is the last book of the bible. Revelation 3:7 -13
Revelation 3:7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;
8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.
What's your point (if you have one other than just to mindlessly attack that which you know nothing about)? Are not ALL Scripture inspired and instructive?
2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
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3:8 Later, when Jesus said to his disciples, “These things I do, you will do and more than these” (John 14:12),
This was said at the Last Supper. Whole John chapter 14.
AJH gave only a section of the sentence:
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
Again, what's your point? You obviously don't believe Jesus, or you would NEVER be here attacking Christ to promote idolatrous trinitarian doctrine (Exod. 20:3-7; Deut. 6:4; Mark 12:29-31) and pagan holidays like Christ-mass/Yuletide/Saturnalia and Ishtar/Easter, all of which are part of the satanic organized religion that deceitfully referred to as "Christianity" which you promote.
The apostles did do many more things after Jesus ascended to Heaven in Acts chapter 1, read the rest of the Book of Acts. Under the power of the Holy Spirit they went far and wide, spreading the Gospel, doing miracles amongst the Jews AND the Gentiles.
Agreed. And Christ is the same yesterday, as He is today, and forever, is He not?
Hebrews 13:8 Christ the Saviour the same yesterday, and today, and forever.
------ ... he was referring to, if and when they earned their pardons, they would be given back their divinity and super-human powers (1), which would allow them to do even more incredible things, than he could do whilst locked inside the “son of Mary”(2).
So can YOU raise people from the dead ? Would you not consider the HEALING and raising of the dead that God did through the disciples superhuman (Divine) powers?
Examples:
God raised (through Peter) Tabitha (Acts 9:36-42).
God raised (through Paul) Eutychus (Acts 20:7-12).
Just as God (The God and Father of Christ) raised (through Christ-Jesus) the dead:
God raised (through Jesus) the widow's son from the city of Nain (Luke 7:11-17);
God raised (through Jesus) Jairus' daughter (Luke 8:49-56);
God raised (through Jesus) Lazarus (John 11:1-44); and
God raised MANY when Jesus died and the Temple Veil rent in two (Matt. 27:50-54).
And just as God raised the dead through Christ and His Disciple when Christ previously visited in the body of Elijah:
God raised (through Elijah) Zarephath's son (1 kings 17:17-24);
God raised (through Elisha) the Shunammite woman's son (2 kings 4:18-36); and
God raised (through contact with Elisha's body) the Israelite man when the Moabites invaded (2 kings 13:20-21);
----- Remember, that he too had had to submit to human limitations, so that people could see him, and follow his example....
Jesus NEVER claimed to be God. Christ, through the mouth of Jesus, only ever truthfully claimed to be the Son OF God. LITERALLY (over 50 times according to the BIBLE).
Also, three of the references to Christ being the literal Son of God refer to Him as the Son of THE Most High or THE Highest. Further, there are at least three more references made by Father to His Anointed (His Christ) as His Son.
Mark 5:7 And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, [thou] Son OF the Most High God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.
Luke 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son OF the Highest: and THELORD God his Father shall give unto him the Throne of David:
Luke 8:28 When he saw Jesus, he cried out, and fell down before him, and with a loud voice said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, [thou] Son of God most high? I beseech thee, torment me not.
And in Psalms, where Father (God, the Most High) refers His Anointed (His Christ) as HisSon: Psalm 2:7, 2:12, Dan. 3:25.
Also of interest is the designation of the other angels, both in heaven and here on earth, as “the sons of God”, “children of the Most High” or “sons of the Living God”, etc., including:
This of course is in perfect agreement with the references to Christ as “the firstborn among many brethren” in Romans 8:29, “the firstborn of every creature” in Colossians 1:15, and “the beginning of the creation of God” in Rev. 3:14. There simply is no other way for Christ to be the literal Son of God (as well as the literal firstborn).
REFERENCES IN SCRIPTURE TO CHRIST AS “GOD THE SON”: ZERO (0)
REFERENCES IN SCRIPTURE TO “THE DEITY OF CHRIST”: ZERO (0)
A SON is the CREATED offspring of the Father. And the Son OF God is very obviously NOT God Himself, Who plainly stated that He could NEVER be a man, NEITHER THE SON OF MAN (see. Num. 23:19; 1 Sam. 15:29; Hos. 11:9), because GOD IS ALL-POWERFUL AND ALL KNOWING (Matt. 24:36) ALL OF THE TIME.
Only someone who doesn't know Father (God) would actually believe the very obvious LIE that it's somehow possible to kill God, in ANY form.
And that is what all of this is really about...Satan (through you) pushing his FAKE agenda, FAKE organized religion ("Christianity") with its FAKE deity (a "trinity") with its FAKE Jesus (falsely claiming that Jesus was/is God) to push his LIE that puny humans can somehow kill God.
All that the Romans and FAKE Jews (Idumean-Edomites) could do was kill the human body that Christ INCARNATED (John 1:14). They had no power whatsoever over Christ, God's Eldest/Firstborn Son (the firstborn of every creature that God made/created - Col 1:15; Rom. 8:29; Heb. 1:1-4; Rev. 3:14).
Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell-fire.
In his incarnation, the Son of God assumed a complete human nature—body, soul, mind, and will—into personal union with himself. He did not assume a distinct human person, since he is already a divine person, but rather he gave personhood to the human nature that he assumed. As a human, Jesus experienced all the ordinary, non-sinful limitations of humanity. He grew and developed. He experienced hunger, thirst, weariness, and the full range of human emotions. His humanity was as integral to his saving work as his divinity.
This so-called explanation is coming from those whom Christ referred to as "the blind leading the blind" (Matt. 15:13-14), because they contradict Christ. Christ was SENT by His God and Father to incarnate Jesus, to pay for our PAST sins (Rom. 3:25) and to teach us The Way we all NEED to be (John 14:6), to be able to return home, to Father, which art in heaven (Matt. 6:9).
Sadly "Christians" don't believe Christ's Words nor follow His Example, and thus will never recognize much less get to KNOW Christ, just as the "Jews" didn't recognize Christ.
God SENT Christ; God did NOT send Himself.
References in the Gospels to Christ being sent by God (52):-
Very obviously there have been many humans (Adams) since Christ was here in the body of Jesus 2000 years ago. The last Adam is Christ, Who is here in the body of JAH. When the body Christ is currently using (JAH) dies, that will be THE END OF TIME (Rev. 10:6), as Judgement Day will be upon us all, exactly as prophesied (Matt. 24:28-31; Luke 17:37; 2 Cor. 5:10; Rev. 1:7; Rev. 20:12-15).
How could God be obedient to God? God IS God, and ALL of His CREATION should be obedient to Him, including His Christ.
1 Corinthians 15:22-28
15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
15:24 Then [cometh] The End, when he shall have delivered up The Kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
15:25 For He must reign, till He hath put all enemies under his feet.
15:26 The last enemy [that] shall be destroyed [is] death.
15:27 For He hath put all things under his feet. But when He saith all things are put under [him, it is] manifest that He is excepted, which did put all things under him.
15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto Him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
through our common humanity as our representative and substitute: through his life, death, and resurrection, he merits salvation for all who are united to him by faith. As a human, he also serves as our example, providing a model for true human obedience.
Agreed. We need to learn to keep our humans and their carnal minds in subjection (1 Cor 9:27) so that we can, with our spirit/soul keep The Law God gave us and learn to DO His Will (Rom. 8:5-8), as Christ teaches (John 3:3-7; 4:23-24).
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There is nothing in the bible that sounds like that. The only search result "I am the way you have to be" via Google is JAHtruth's book. Duckduckgo doesn't give one result.
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John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am The Way, the Truth, and the Life: NOT one man cometh unto the Father, EXCEPT by me.
Note: For those who are awake enough to realize that the corporate fictional governments of this world are NOT working for us, but are actually working together against the people, please consider that Google was created and funded by the FBI as a data mining/intelligence gathering operation, which reportedly records every keystroke its users make, storing that metadata in "fusion centers".
There are less invasive search engines out there. Please take the time to investigate them. And please do the same with all of the Scripture that has been cited here, all of which is relevant in differentiating the truth from the lies in a world of nearly universal deceit.
No, @lightseeker did no such thing. This is yet another LIE.
All he did was employ yet another logical fallacy (tu quoque), where he childishly offered his worthless opinion without any evidence whatsoever. But that's what irrational people do, believing that their opinion should somehow count as evidence.
You know or should know that you made numerous false accusations, but instead of apologizing for them, you stand by your LIES and false accusations so you can pretend that you are somehow a victim when, in fact, you are the perpetrator of false and misleading information and personal (ad hominem) attacks..
Again, another LIE. No "claim" was personally made; the EVIDENCE of what you actually said was provided for all to see, so that they can make their minds up for themselves.
Why do you feel the need to LIE so often? Are you now going to pretend that you didn't say the following?
If you can't be honest with yourself about the things you say and do, then why would anyone expect you to be honest about anything?
And your question has been answered MULTIPLE times, providing you with the exact verses what tell us what everyone in the world will do when that happens. Please find them again below:
The ENTIRE world will mourn and wail when that happens when the body that Christ is currently using (JAH) dies, because at that exact moment, everyone's eyes will be opened and they will realize that there is no more time left to REPENT, as the Reaping will begin.
As any rational/logical individual with a modicum of faith would do when they recognize (are shown by Father - Matt. 11:27) that JAH IS The Christ.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am The Way, the Truth, and the Life: NOT one man cometh unto the Father, EXCEPT by me.
Religion should be (and really is) a bonded obligation to God, which is ETERNAL and thus can NEVER fade away. But in today's terms, that word has been twisted into the corporate fictional organized religions that fill the world today, with their pagan traditions, rites, rituals and superstitions.
You are here presumably to defend you particular delusion, i.e. "Christianity", which is very loosely based on the misinterpretations of the letters of Paul and going to church, to listen to a priest, pastor, etc., that Christ called "the blind leading the blind" (Matt. 15:14). "Christianity" totally ignores what the REAL Christ said through the mouth of Jesus 2000 years ago, because IF it embraced Christ's TRUE Teachings, it would require taking personal action in the form of daily "self" crucifixion
(see: Matt. 10:38; Mark 8:34; Luke 9:23; and Luke 14:26-27) and the DOING of God's Will (Matt. 6:10), which begins with the keeping of God's Perfect Law (Matt. 5:17-20).
Thank-you for finally admitting that you did, in fact, wish death upon JAH, or AJH as you refer to Him.
And all of these questions had already been answered, so it was deceitful and a waste of everyone's time for you to pretend as if they had not been answered.
Disagreements, contradictions and proving the Bible/ quran clearly contradicts AJH is not lies.
You have a non-Christian worldview so the way we view the same things are poles apart on some things.
All those issues you introduce are discussed later in the ebook.
I corrected the error I made above too.
Simple Truth: There is only one way to see for yourself if something is true: TEST IT FOR YOURSELVES.
John 7:16-17
7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but His that sent me.
7:17 If any man will do His will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or [whether] I speak of myself.
Anyone who is actually striving to DO God's Will, out of Love for God and for our fellow human+Beings, will see for themselves whether or not God keeps His Promises. His Blessings are truly out of this world, and the little miracles He sends every day can be a constant source of joy, wisdom and healing to those who humbly approach Him in the manner He has specified.
May God Bless all who seek to do His Will. May there be peace on Earth and goodwill toward men (Adams) and women (Eves).
@A Freeman, I am not going to start the usual theological debates that are part of many other threads.
The thread's goal is examine what "The way home or face the fire" actually says and compare it what the the bible/ quran says.
You advertise the book persistently.
The ENTIRE world will mourn and wail when that happens when the body that Christ is currently using (JAH) dies, because at that exact moment, everyone's eyes will be opened and they will realize that there is no more time left to REPENT, as the Reaping will begin.
Quoting a fraction of a verse to support a brand new doctrine is incredibly deceptive.
Matthew 11:25-At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.
27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am The Way, the Truth, and the Life: NOT one man cometh unto the Father, EXCEPT by me.
So you are denying that Adam and Eve were humans, and that their descendants (the descendants of Adam and Eve - aka Adams/male humans and Eves/female humans) were not the ones who populated the Earth, including Noah and his family?
This is what I typed: 3:7 All the evil angels/Jinns (you), except Lucifer (Iblis) himself, CHOSE to submit to being locked inside of Adams and Eves, making human+beings
Note Adams and Eves are PLURAL. AJH proves beyond all doubt he does not believe in the Book of Genesis there.
. Adam was the first man. Eve was the first woman.
AJH claims there were Adams i.e. men [plural]. Eves i.e. women [plural]
Revelation 3:7 And to the angel of the community in Philadelphia write; THESE THINGS SAITH HE THAT IS HOLY, HE THAT IS TRUE, HE THAT HATH THE KEY OF DAVID (i.e. Christ), he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;
The verse is literally quoting Christ, and is exactly what Christ actually said. So it very obviously has NOT been misquoted, as you are again FALSELY claiming. Why do you feel the need to LIE so often?
Again, Revelation is last book of the bible. Genesis is the first.
It has nothing to do with the Creation story.
Lying by omission/ confusion is just as bad as open lying.
Note: For those who are awake enough to realize that the corporate fictional governments of this world are NOT working for us, but are actually working together against the people, please consider that Google was created and funded by the FBI as a data mining/intelligence gathering operation, which reportedly records every keystroke its users make, storing that metadata in "fusion centers".
There are less invasive search engines out there. Please take the time to investigate them. And please do the same with all of the Scripture that has been cited here, all of which is relevant in differentiating the truth from the lies in a world of nearly universal deceit.
You have a non-Christian worldview so the way we view the same things are poles apart on some things.
All those issues you introduce are discussed later in the ebook.
I corrected the error I made above too.
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Disagreements, contradictions and proving the Bible/ quran clearly contradicts AJH is not lies.
You have a non-Christian worldview so the way we view the same things are poles apart on some things.
All those issues you introduce are discussed later in the ebook.
I corrected the error I made above too.
It's understood that you perhaps don't realize what you're doing, or even what motivates you. That is part of the insanity of this prison reform school for the criminally insane, with which you too are afflicted.
All you are doing is mindlessly attacking that which you know absolutely nothing about (John 3:3-7). It is motivated completely by FEAR, in the form of hatred, whether you see that or not.
What Prince Michael/Christ/JAH asks everyone to do before they read the Scripture, whether it be the Old Covenant/Testament, New Covenant/Testament, Koran/Quran or The Way home or face The Fire, is to ask for God's Guidance in reading it.
What you are doing is asking everyone to believe your human viewpoint about Scripture, which isn't even your viewpoint; it's actually Satan's viewpoint which you are simply repeating.
The Hebrew word Satan means "The Opposer" (God's Adversary). After God tells us the Truth, Satan comes along, through the ego/"self", and whispers in people's ears the exact opposite, in the hope that he can invert our vision. Every single human on this planet has inverted vision, i.e. they see everything upside down and backwards (believing that truth is somehow a lie, that good is somehow evil, that light is somehow darkness, and vice-versa), through human eyes. And because they have been listening to that seductive voice for so long, they believe it to be themselves.
This lesson is featured in A. Freeman’s article, now on Gibraltar Messenger: Who Lucifer REALLY Is And Why You Should Care – https://gibraltar-messenger.net/jahtruth/who-lucifer-really-is-and-why-you-should-care
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Your ego has conned you into telling numerous lies, making numerous false accusations, and employing multiple logical fallacies, sometimes within the same sentence. And to cover up its antics, it tells you more lies (e.g. this is all merely "disagreements" or that the Truth contradicts itself, and that you have somehow been proving that JAH has contradicted the Bible and/or the Quran, when you've actually proven nothing other than your own ignorance, born out of the satanic arrogance which each of us MUST learn to overcome (Rev. 2:7, 2:11, 2:17, 2:26-28, 3:5, 3:12, 3:21, 21:7).
The only way to begin seeing things correctly, through spiritual eyes, is to be born again as your true, spiritual self (from above), exactly as Christ teaches (John 3:3-7). This is something that no "Christian" has ever done.
Please consider how arrogant and illogical for you to question credentials of The Word of God, about The Word of God, while never questioning your own credentials, i.e. what makes you an authority on what is right and wrong. You clearly don't know what you're talking about, and are making a fool of yourself or, more specifically, your "self" is making a fool out of you (the real you).
No one needs you to interpret Scripture for them. We have Father (God) and His Holy Spirit to do that for us. Learn some HUMILITY and leave that job to Him.
I am going to skip through most of the theology stuff for now, minor comments only. It is ridiculous. [how anyone who believed themself to be a Christian could fall for this is beyond me]
3:9 The reason that Lucifer, now called Satan, is so powerful, is because he refused to submit to human limitations, being locked inside of a human-animal, and learning to be good, so he still has his memory and super-human powers. He refused, because of his incredible arrogance, which was what caused him to be banished from heaven, along with you, in the first-place (Sura 7:11 & 15:31-44).
3:10 Satan (Iblis) asked God to reprieve him, until the Last-Day, and The Lord granted his wish, so that He could “use” Satan, to tempt the human+beings (you). Satan swore to attack you all, by seduction; lies; etc., from in front and from behind, and from your left and from your right (Sura 7:15-20 & 15:44), and from inside (the enemy-within), because he considers all of you to be traitors to him, for blaming him, and having submitted to human limitations, and trying to learn to be good. That is why he is now YOUR enemy.
What would Muslims say about that?
For the curious: As far as I https://quran.com/ to check the quote from Sura.
3:11 If you follow him now, he will reward you with the only thing that he has to offer - i.e. worldly material treasures, that you can not keep, and animal pleasures of the flesh. If you do follow him, it will be into “The Fire” - execution.
3:12 If you strive to be good, Satan will attack you, from every direction, to try to pull you back into his control, because, when you do good in the world, you become a threat to him.
That is a reason, but definitely not the whole truth. Satan hates all people, even those who serve him. Living for Jesus alone - why does Satan hate humanity so much?
[half way down] ...The first reason is that we’re made in the image of God Almighty. The second one is that God has granted us an unmerited privilege that the enemy doesn’t have.....
THAT is when you NEED 100% faith, and with that faith, God’s protection from evil (Ephesians 6:10-18)(Sura 2:257).
The spiritual armour is for believers in Jesus Christ only. Ephesians 6:10-18 10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
3:13 Whenever you let Satan deceive you, into thinking that you can not win against injustice, just because you are vastly outnumbered, and completely surrounded (e.g. “fighting City Hall” - Ephesians 6:12); when, if only you didn’t LET Satan deceive you, you could win, by trusting in God and by wearing His armour; you are telling God that you think Satan is more powerful than He is. That is ridiculous, because God sent Satan here and keeps him here, against his will, which is why, over thousands of years, Satan has become more and more bitter and twisted. He is now so sick, and depraved, that I feel sorry for him.
3:14 You can ALWAYS win against injustice, with enough faith, as long as you talk to God, follow His orders and have 100% faith, because He will be with you, every step of the way. That does NOT mean that it will be easy, but then no-one said that life in prison would be easy. You will have to fight, every step of the way, but, with 100% faith, you can use “The Force”, to overcome ALL obstacles. When you are doing God’s Will for you, the ENTIRE world can not stop you from winning.
3:15 If you lose your faith, you will lose the battle. However, if you keep going forwards and do not let Satan scare you; by holding onto your faith in God’s protection, following His Will; you CAN NOT LOSE. In any case, these problems in your lives are only tests, to see whether you are willing to fight for God, against Satan. You should not see these things as problems, but as an opportunity to earn points towards your remission.
3:16 There are no such things as problems, they are only solutions waiting to be found. They are only problems in your mind, or frame of mind. If you do not recognise them as problems, then they are not problems, but solutions waiting to be found, and you should be grateful for these opportunities, to fight to show your worth, and these evil people, what you are made of. It is how you face up to these tests and overcome them, that builds your character; spiritual strength (will-power); makes you stronger and makes you who you are.
3:17 Don’t fight for selfish-reasons, and stay calm, because your human emotions (fear; anger; aggression, etc.) will cloud your judgement, and block God’s messages and “The Force”, and you will lose (“The Force” can only be used for knowledge and defence, not for aggressive physical attack). You will lose, because Satan will use your anger and aggression against you, by causing you to say things, that you do not really mean, to people who may have helped you, if you had not insulted and alienated them, with your anger and aggression.
That all looks like AJH expects you to do everything for God in your own strength, and never doubting, never failing.
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