Comparison of JAHtruth's "The way home or face the Fire" to the bible

[lightseeker]

Here is a visual summary of A Freeman's contribution, influence, aspirations and general effect on this forum as to date.

A JEDI (Rev 24:5, Acts 37:12, King's 99:100) JEsus DIsciple, communicating with GOD/VENUS/ET (Genisis 45, Book of Mormon 87)

 

[JoChris]

No answer to any of this (or any of the previous passages for that matter) from jah truthers. They’re basically just trying to distract from their book now by carrying on silly arguments, they’d rather talk about anything but their religious book it seems

It would be fascinating to discover how many entries has @A Freeman made here and on other forums, advertising Anthony John Hill's material at every opportunity.
His refusal to *defend* anything of the ground breaking new "truths" that we must learn if we want to avoid facing the fire
has been noted.
None of us has edited words or inserted brackets to reveal the real secret meaning into TWHOFTF, like AJH does to his King of King's "bible".

 

[JoChris]

The Bible doesn't belong to the "Christians" any more than the Quran belongs to the "Muslims".

The Word of God is HIS Gift to all of mankind, in every form. And every Spiritual-Being cherishes the Truth contained therein because it is SPIRITUAL/ETERNAL and it is LIFE (John 6:63).

If you are going to use a **non-Christian** text to defend your **non-Christian** beliefs that allegedly prove you have the real Christianity...Go right ahead.

All I ask is disclose you are using the QURAN, or one of the Gnostic books and NOT a biblical book first. You don't want us to think you are " muddying" the waters after all....

 

[lightseeker]

It would be fascinating to discover how many entries has @A Freeman made here and on other forums, advertising Anthony John Hill's material at every opportunity.
His refusal to *defend* anything of the ground breaking new "truths" that we must learn if we want to avoid facing the fire
has been noted.
None of us has edited words or inserted brackets to reveal the real secret meaning into TWHOFTF, like AJH does to his King of King's "bible".

My read on this strange phenomenon - AJH teaches them how to befuddle the Bible by weaving together unrelated passages to dazzle those who haven't read it. When theyre proven wrong they just weave together the same passages as a response. However, with their own text, there's nothing they can appeal to when it says their god is venus/ET so rather than discussing that they fall back into their tangled web of Bible confusion as a smoke screen.

 

[JoChris]

The next few "verses" sound like a new blend of Gnosticism and Star Wars.

2:20 There would also be higher and lower spiritual levels, like in human schools, which go from nursery to university (Mark 12:32-34), with A-Z classes, and all grades in between. What humans call intelligence and levels of intelligence, or awareness, are really spiritual levels.
ANOTHER deliberately misused verse, ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with what AJH claims!

28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he [JESUS] had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?....

Mark 12:28-34

2:21 The upper levels were to help to teach the lower ones, by example and not words, whilst ALL levels are being taught by God (Head-teacher). All the students should be helping one another, and becoming less selfish (love your neighbour as much as yourself - Matt. 19:19),

Adept in mystery religions - Wikipedia

An adept is an individual identified as having attained a specific level of knowledge, skill, or aptitude in doctrines relevant to a particular author or organization.
They stands out from others with their great abilities. All human qualities are developed in them, including intelligence and spirituality. Anyone can become an adept through spiritual development and self-improvement.[1]

thereby earning more points and responsibilities, climbing higher up the spiritual ladder, until they become enough like God (like Jesus demonstrated), graduate and go home (John 8:32 / King of kings’ Bible, John 8:23).

That is compatible with many non-Christian religions, enough for another whole thread!

2:22 To be able to operate the almost-instantaneous reward and punishment system; to enclose the prison and run it efficiently; God surrounded the Earth with an invisible protection, against escape (Gravity), and with spirit and therefore invisible (to the human-eye) guards/jailers (guardian angels), to ensure that no-one could ever escape (and no-one ever has). This force-field contains the Astral Plain (Paradise), which is full of light, “Beings of Light” and Justice.
I assume that is a spelling error? I expect AJH supporters will say it is a different place to an Astral plane. No results for "astral plain" that sound like Paradise in Google or Duckduckgo.

Astral plane: Wikipedia

The astral plane, also called the astral realm or the astral world, is a plane of existence postulated by classical, medieval, oriental, and esoteric philosophies and mystery religions.[1] It is the world of the celestial spheres, crossed by the soul in its astral body on the way to being born and after death, and is generally believed to be populated by angels, spirits or other immaterial beings.[2] In the late 19th and early 20th century the term was popularised by Theosophy and neo-Rosicrucianism.

2:23 The guards, being invisible, would also help to persuade the evil “fallen angels” to have respect, child-like faith and trust in the Lord’s protection, from the equally invisible Devil, whilst being, themselves, unable to attack what they could not see or touch. Then, when, because of lack of faith in God’s protection, He allows evil and mishaps to occur in their lives (Honi soit qui mal y pense), they will suddenly feel afraid, need and ask for His help, and receive it, bringing ever-increasing faith, trust and nearness to God, for those who had opened their spiritual-eyes, and were seeking to make sense of their lives.

There is nothing in the bible to suggest there will be any form of reconciliation between Satan/ fallen angels (demons) and God in the future.

Revelation is very clear in fact.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

 

[lightseeker]

The next few "verses" sound like a new blend of Gnosticism and Star Wars.

2:20 There would also be higher and lower spiritual levels, like in human schools, which go from nursery to university (Mark 12:32-34), with A-Z classes, and all grades in between. What humans call intelligence and levels of intelligence, or awareness, are really spiritual levels.
ANOTHER deliberately misused verse, ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with what AJH claims!

28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he [JESUS] had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?....

Mark 12:28-34

2:21 The upper levels were to help to teach the lower ones, by example and not words, whilst ALL levels are being taught by God (Head-teacher). All the students should be helping one another, and becoming less selfish (love your neighbour as much as yourself - Matt. 19:19),

Adept in mystery religions - Wikipedia

An adept is an individual identified as having attained a specific level of knowledge, skill, or aptitude in doctrines relevant to a particular author or organization.
They stands out from others with their great abilities. All human qualities are developed in them, including intelligence and spirituality. Anyone can become an adept through spiritual development and self-improvement.[1]

thereby earning more points and responsibilities, climbing higher up the spiritual ladder, until they become enough like God (like Jesus demonstrated), graduate and go home (John 8:32 / King of kings’ Bible, John 8:23).

That is compatible with many non-Christian religions, enough for another whole thread!

2:22 To be able to operate the almost-instantaneous reward and punishment system; to enclose the prison and run it efficiently; God surrounded the Earth with an invisible protection, against escape (Gravity), and with spirit and therefore invisible (to the human-eye) guards/jailers (guardian angels), to ensure that no-one could ever escape (and no-one ever has). This force-field contains the Astral Plain (Paradise), which is full of light, “Beings of Light” and Justice.
I assume that is a spelling error? I expect AJH supporters will say it is a different place to an Astral plain. No results for "astral plain" that sound like Paradise in Google or Duckduckgo.

Astral plane: Wikipedia

The astral plane, also called the astral realm or the astral world, is a plane of existence postulated by classical, medieval, oriental, and esoteric philosophies and mystery religions.[1] It is the world of the celestial spheres, crossed by the soul in its astral body on the way to being born and after death, and is generally believed to be populated by angels, spirits or other immaterial beings.[2] In the late 19th and early 20th century the term was popularised by Theosophy and neo-Rosicrucianism.

2:23 The guards, being invisible, would also help to persuade the evil “fallen angels” to have respect, child-like faith and trust in the Lord’s protection, from the equally invisible Devil, whilst being, themselves, unable to attack what they could not see or touch. Then, when, because of lack of faith in God’s protection, He allows evil and mishaps to occur in their lives (Honi soit qui mal y pense), they will suddenly feel afraid, need and ask for His help, and receive it, bringing ever-increasing faith, trust and nearness to God, for those who had opened their spiritual-eyes, and were seeking to make sense of their lives.

There is nothing in the bible to suggest there will be any form of reconciliation between Satan/ fallen angels (demons) and God in the future.

Revelation is very clear in fact.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

"Guardian angels" aren't in the Bible. He's quoting the catholic magesterium that he swears are all (bold, underline, capitals) satanic.
Also more evidence here that it's some kind of Mormon belief, where god is a person on another planet and we need to become like him so we can be gods on another planet. This is the second time this has been stated

 

[JoChris]

"Guardian angels" aren't in the Bible. He's quoting the catholic magesterium that he swears are all (bold, underline, capitals) satanic.
Also more evidence here that it's some kind of Mormon belief, where god is a person on another planet and we need to become like him so we can be gods on another planet. This is the second time this has been stated

Compare that to the Serpent (Satan in disguise) who talked to Eve in Genesis chapter 3:

4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

 

[JoChris]

2:24 For those who do not believe enough in, or seek God constantly, He sends calamities into their lives.

1. With AJH's logic, the REAL Jesus Christ who died on the cross for our sins, the apostles and many martyrs over the centuries didn't believe in God enough! Those people named in Hebrews Chapter 11 and Christians who died for their faith were punished for lack of faith?!!!!
What hope is there for any of us in the world then?

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2. What a cruel and harsh god AJH believes in!

Psalm 103:8 The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and plenteous in mercy.
9 He will not always chide: neither will he keep his anger for ever.
10 He hath not dealt with us after our sins; nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.

Matthew 6:45 [Jesus said on the Sermon in the Mount) That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

How many people, who say they do not believe in God, when suddenly in fear for their lives, cry: “God please help me!!!”? If they talked to Him all the time, as they should, these calamities would not happen, because there would be no need for them, as God would not have to forcibly remind them to talk to Him.

That is partly true.
God does sometimes punish us for our sins.
Going on people's testimonies, a lot of people have been shocked into their need of God when a personal tragedy or calamity has happened.

Sometimes God does not make people suffer, and that is actually a sign a person is not a child of God.

Hebrews 12:5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

 

[JoChris]

2:25 Once the crisis is over, most people do not even have the common decency, and good manners, to thank Him, for having helped them solve their problem (by telepathically telling them what to do to solve the problem, or by sending them exactly the right type and amount, of physical help they need, at exactly the right time), and they go off, blindly ignoring Him again, until the next calamity.

That is skating on incredibly thin ice! Maybe God does suddenly and miraculously gives a unbeliever wisdom in emergency situations, but that is because of God's incredible mercy. It is not because a person is good enough or has listened hard enough.

AJH says God ALWAYS beams all the answers to your mind, no matter whether you know that or not. A person isn't supposed to think things through all by themself ever.

2:26 There are none so blind, as those who refuse to see. Open your spiritual-eyes, and see things as they REALLY are. Don’t believe your own human-eyes, because Satan uses them to deceive you, and lie to you. A blind-man sees with his spiritual-eyes only, that is why the blind were able to recognise Jesus, as written, in the New Testament.
Translation:
Open your "spiritual eyes" via emptying your mind and accepting ANYTHING that comes into it as being from God.
If you don't obey it, you are disobeying God.

If you question it, you are listening to Satan.
If you compare what is said to everything you have learnt throughout life, you are listening to Satan.
If you compare it to common sense and reason, you are listening to Satan.
If you disobey AJH's words, you are listening to Satan.

2:27 How much more fortunate, than the blind, are you who have not had the gift of sight removed, and yet you are more blind than they are. Their sight had been removed, so that they would learn to appreciate spiritual-values, instead of worldly, material-values, as they had done previously, which had earned them the punishment of being blind.

That is flattery, suggesting to people who actually consider AJH's words that those who reject TWHOFTF are spiritually blind/ asleep.


The Fox and the Crow - Aesop's fables
A crow had snatched a goodly piece of cheese out of a window, and flew with it into a high tree, intent to enjoy her prize. A fox spied the dainty morsel and thus planned his approaches.

"Oh crow," said he, "how beautiful are thy wings, how bright thine eye! How graceful thy neck! Thy breast is the breast of an eagle! Thy claws?I beg pardon?thy talons, are a match for all the beasts of the field. Oh! That such a bird should be dumb, and want only a voice!"

The crow, pleased with the flattery and chuckling to think how she would surprise the fox with her caw, opened her mouth. Down dropped the cheese! The fox snapping up observed, as he walked away, that ?whatever he had remarked of her beauty, he had said nothing yet of her brains.?
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Men seldom flatter without some private end in view, and they who listen to such music may expect to have to pay the piper.

 

[JoChris]

2:28 Faith is the key that opens every door (knock with TRUE faith and it shall be opened unto you - Matt. 7:7-8),

Matthew 7:7-12
The last two verses sound nothing like gnosis.

11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

and without it, you will live in darkness and fear, until your execution on the LastDay.

That is a scare tactic.

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AJH really relies on the fact that very few people check the references!!!! AGAIN, absolute shockers -patchwork quilted verses to support his new mythology.

2:29 Once the preparations were completed, the prisoners were sent to the Earth (Isaiah 14:12)
See Isaiah 14:12-15.

(Luke 10:18 & Rev.12:9) , for the pre-set period of time (Rev. 12:12), i.e. until the “Last-Day” - “Judgement-Day” - “Armageddon”, or release, if they learned to be good. (Koran, Sura 17:8 & 83:7)

2:30 Lucifer and his angels (you) were locked-in, for a short time (in eternal-time)(Rev. 12:12)(Sura 70:4).
For context Matthew Chapter 10
17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Revelation 12:7-12

Quran chapter 17
17:8 Perhaps your Lord will have mercy on you ˹if you repent˺, but if you return ˹to sin˺, We will return ˹to punishment˺. And We have made Hell a ˹permanent˺ confinement for the disbelievers.”

Quran chapter 70
˹through which˺ the angels and the ˹holy˺ spirit1 will ascend to Him on a Day fifty thousand years in length.2

To a non-muslim, neither quran verse sounds like it is for Satan or his fallen angels.

 

[lightseeker]

2:28 Faith is the key that opens every door (knock with TRUE faith and it shall be opened unto you - Matt. 7:7-8),

Matthew 7:7-12
The last two verses sound nothing like gnosis.

11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

and without it, you will live in darkness and fear, until your execution on the LastDay.

That is a scare tactic.

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AJH really relies on the fact that very few people check the references!!!! AGAIN, absolute shockers -patchwork quilted verses to support his new mythology.

2:29 Once the preparations were completed, the prisoners were sent to the Earth (Isaiah 14:12)
See Isaiah 14:12-15.

(Luke 10:18 & Rev.12:9) , for the pre-set period of time (Rev. 12:12), i.e. until the “Last-Day” - “Judgement-Day” - “Armageddon”, or release, if they learned to be good. (Koran, Sura 17:8 & 83:7)

2:30 Lucifer and his angels (you) were locked-in, for a short time (in eternal-time)(Rev. 12:12)(Sura 70:4).
For context Matthew Chapter 10
17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Revelation 12:7-12

Quran chapter 17
17:8 Perhaps your Lord will have mercy on you ˹if you repent˺, but if you return ˹to sin˺, We will return ˹to punishment˺. And We have made Hell a ˹permanent˺ confinement for the disbelievers.”

Quran chapter 70
˹through which˺ the angels and the ˹holy˺ spirit1 will ascend to Him on a Day fifty thousand years in length.2

To a non-muslim, neither quran verse sounds like it is for Satan or his fallen angels.

I’ll point out that this verse obviously isn’t talking about a pre genesis event, if when it happened it weakened the nations

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

AJH says God ALWAYS beams all the answers to your mind, no matter whether you know that or not. A person isn't supposed to think things through all by themself ever.

Extremely important point. All thoughts are either from their god or Satan according to their book. There is no room for possibility of free thought. For a book that says freedom is the same nessessity as food and water, this is completely senseless.

“But now we have been released from the law, for we died to it and are no longer captive to its power. Now we can serve God, not in the old way of obeying the letter of the law, but in the new way of living in the Spirit.” The law and sin are again contrasted together against the freedom and the grace of Christ.

 

[JoChris]

2:31 A prison, just to restrain evil angels, would be a senseless waste of time, and, in order to operate as a reformatory, it would need to function like a school. God does not permit any unnecessary waste (as demonstrated by Jesus, after the feeding of the five thousand, when he told the disciples to collect up all the crumbs, so that there would be no waste - John 6:12), and so, out of love; wisdom; compassion and mercy, He decided to construct a reformatory, to teach His rebellious subjects or children, to be good, so that they could come home, as soon as possible.

2:32 However, He would have to be sure, that you have GENUINELY changed, and will not cause any more trouble, but live in love and harmony, with the other inhabitants of the Morning Star - good [G(o)od’s - God’s] angels. He also wants His guards to be able to come home too.

Did he read the bible that he allegedly translated?

2 Peter 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

2:33 All of this discord makes God very sad, and He looks over the world and weeps, because He wants everyone to be good, and come home, so that He can (metaphorically-speaking) “kill the fatted-calf, and have a celebration, for the return of all His prodigal sons”, just like the father in Luke 15:22-24 does. That is all that He has ever wanted of you.

The bible's God is loving and merciful, yes. The bible's God is also just and judges those who reject Him.

The son in Jesus' parable was a man. Luke 15:11-32 Satan and his evil angels are not.

11 And he said, A certain man had two sons:
12 And the younger of them said to his father, Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth to me. And he divided unto them his living....

Why did God allow Satan and the demons to sin? Got questions

....Unlike humanity, however, the choice the angels had to follow Satan or remain faithful to God was an eternal choice. The Bible presents no opportunity for the fallen angels to repent and be forgiven. Nor does the Bible indicate that it is possible for more of the angels to sin. The angels who remain faithful to God are described as the “elect angels” (1 Timothy 5:21). Satan and the fallen angels knew God in all His glory. For them to rebel, despite what they knew about God, was the utmost of evil. As a result, God does not give Satan and the other fallen angels the opportunity to repent.

 

[JoChris]

2:34 In the parable of “the prodigal son”, the prodigal son who was dead and is alive again (Luke 15:24), represents YOU. The prodigal son who was dead (condemned to death for your crimes), and on returning in humility; disgrace and repentance to his father (God), to serve his father and do his will, has come alive again (been reprieved), was lost and is found. On being refound, the prodigal son finds, to his surprise, that he is accepted back, joyfully, by his father, as his child and not his servant, as he expected.

Some of that is true. The prodigal son REPENTED first and then found his father welcomed him back.
That does not therefore mean ALL people - whether they believe in God or not - will be received by God.

He then realizes that he was very foolish to leave his father, and that his life will be much better, living and learning from his father, who is much wiser than himself.

AJH is extremely wrong that the prodigal son realised his father was right and then learned from his father AFTER it he was welcomed back!
Again, was he reading the bible when he "translated'' it?!!!

Luke 15:11-32
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13 And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living.
14 And when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land; and he began to be in want.
15 And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine.
16 And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him.
17 And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger!
18 I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee,
19 And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants.


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22 But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet:
23 And bring hither the fatted calf, and kill it; and let us eat, and be merry:
24 For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found.

verse 24 is not before verse 17.

2:35 God is the owner of the vineyard (world), and He has sent His servants (Prophets) and His Son (CHRIST Jesus), and the husbandmen (you) have killed them, so He will have to punish the husbandmen (priests and people of this world)(Matt. 21:33-46), unless you repent.

AJH is correct in the first half of the sentence.
It is a parable again. This time Jesus showing how the Jewish leaders killed the prophets in the past, and the current ones knew Jesus was telling it against THEM. Jesus had not died at that stage either.

Matthew 21:33-46

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45 And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.
46 But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they took him for a prophet.

 

[JoChris]

As the chapter starts to finally draw to a close, it becomes clearer that KARMA, reincarnation and gnosis is the true religion.
I haven't provided many comments now because it is pretty self-explanatory!

2:36 To function as a reformatory, everything would have to (and does) fall into one of four categories:-

1. TEACHING from God and “hopefully” LEARNING by you. If not the lesson must be repeated, over and over again, until it IS learned, with punishment each time that a test is failed (“when will I ever learn?”).

2. TESTS to see what; how much; how well; or even if the lessons have been learned at all. The tests are set in such a way that they show God the results, to the exact degree. God “uses” the Devil for these tests, by letting him tempt you, and then He tells you not to do what Satan says, in a spiritual “tug of war”, to see which way you voluntarily decide to go. (This is the reason for needing free-will). “These things are sent to try us.” (Job 1:12 & 2:6-7).

3. REWARDS for learning well and doing good deeds, taking the form of true SPIRITUAL happiness (joy) and earned enlightenment.

4. PUNISHMENT for not learning to be good and for continuing to follow the Devil, doing evil. Taking the form of various types and degrees of pain, both mental and physical, e.g. heart-ache; fear; illness or injury; etc.

2:37 EVERYTHING of any relevance, in everyone’s life, falls into one of these FOUR categories, YOU have to decide which one. A human school is based on these same principles, and is a school within a school, but, unfortunately, they teach worldly-values, instead of God’s values.


AJH's explanation actually sounds compatible with Ivan Pavlov's theory.
Pavlov theory of learning and its educational implications - education summary.

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2:38 There is ABSOLUTELY no such thing as coincidence, everything is planned, down to the smallest detail, so that when things happen, you have to ask why, and the good telepathic voice within you will tell you why. Then, those who seek, will be able to make sense of their lives, and follow the right path. Similarly, there is no such thing as luck.

So this Father is already within you, you just haven't realised it yet?
When you realise the god is within you, then just follow the quiet inner voice and do what it says, no matter what?

2:39 You must look for God, or good, and His working, in everyone; everything; every circumstance, and encourage good in yourself, and everyone around you.
2:40 See God in the smile and trust of a child, or a loved-one; in His love in giving you loving animals, as “faithful” friends to play with, and in the beauty of nature and harmonious surroundings. 2:41 Get to KNOW God and what IS good, and FEEL His love! (Hosea 6:6).

What is panentheism? CARM

Panentheism (Greek pan which means “all,” en which means “in,” and theos which means “God”) is the position that God is greater than the universe, that the universe is in God, that he permeates every part of nature, is part of nature, extends beyond nature, and is also distinct from it. Panentheism should not be confused with pantheism which says God and nature are the same and cannot be distinguished. However, panentheism maintains that God is changing. “Panentheists think of God as a finite, changing, director of world affairs who works in cooperation with the world in order to achieve greater perfection in his nature…they believe the world is God’s body.”1

 

[JoChris]

2:42 Judge no-one! Who does man think he is, that he thinks he has the right to judge another, when he himself is bad and a fellow prisoner?

It was a strange change of tone from 2:41!
AJH contradicted Jesus there.
[Jesus said] John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

If a person is to judge righteously, they have to be permitted to judge matters first.

2:43 ONLY God can judge, because only God knows what is good, and can therefore judge justly. Men are only relatively good or bad, one to another, likewise their judgement, because there is noone good, here in prison. All the good souls have gone home to heaven. It was false judgement, that sent Jesus the Nazarite (see Numbers ch.6), to the cross.

Is man bad (2:42), or is man relatively good or bad (2:43)?

Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

No-one does good, despite what Anthony John Hill claims. That is why we all need a Saviour. The true Jesus Christ is Saviour for all who believe in Him.

 

[JoChris]

Finally (!) the conclusion of chapter 2 reveals what "the way home or face the fire" offers:

Pure legalism. No grace. If you obey God (allegedly the inner voice in your head, but really Anthony John Hill), then you have a chance of reaching AJH's "Astral plain" [Paradise], but you had better follow everything to the letter OR ELSE.

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2:44 If everyone kept and enforced GOD’S Laws and JUDGEMENTS, there would be no problems. However, man has; from arrogance, which got him sent here in the first-place; made up his own laws. Man seems to think that he can rule this planet, better than God, and look what a mess the world is in, because of it.

2:45 “Your Will shall be done on Earth, as it is done in heaven.” IF everyone did God’s Will, as ALL the Prophets (God’s messengers) have advised, He could put the world right, very quickly, using people to do it, and make the world a better place for everyone to live in. Unfortunately, at the moment, almost everyone is doing Satan’s will, and, in so doing, is making the world a worse place in which to live.

2:46 You have made your bed; now you have to lie in it; or remake it. The world is your bed.

2:47 When you are with people that you think are good, here on Earth, and you are having what you call a good time (which is usually actually a bad time), just remember that you are in hell, and with people who are actually bad. Then, just try to envision what it must be like, in heaven, where people are REALLY good and no-one murders, or steals, or tells lies, or rapes and everyone loves everyone, and you can TRUST everyone. Wouldn’t you prefer to be there?

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I had become familiar with JAHtruth's legalism, insanity, blended religions, deliberate PERversion of the King James bible thanks to my frequent exchanges with @A Freeman. I now realise it was way worse than I imagined. It explains why reasoning does not get through to him at all.

Through my very basic dissection of two chapters I have proved it actually shares characteristics of secret, occult religions.
I blame Hollywood for when the average person hears the word occult, they still only think "Satan" or "witches", and people doing evil things/ participating in immoral activities etc.

Western esotericism - Wikipedia

Esotericism as a universal, secret, inner tradition

A colored version of the 1888 Flammarion engraving

Some scholars have used Western esotericism to refer to "inner traditions" concerned with a "universal spiritual dimension of reality, as opposed to the merely external ('exoteric') religious institutions and dogmatic systems of established religions."[31] This approach views Western esotericism as just one variant of a worldwide esotericism at the heart of all world religions and cultures, reflecting a hidden esoteric reality.[32] This use is closest to the original meaning of the word in late antiquity, where it applied to secret spiritual teachings that were reserved for a specific elite and hidden from the masses.[33] This definition was popularised in the published work of nineteenth-century esotericists like A.E. Waite, who sought to combine their own mystical beliefs with a historical interpretation of esotericism.[34] It subsequently became a popular approach within several esoteric movements, most notably Martinism and Traditionalism.[35]

 

[A Freeman]

It may not be immediately apparent to those who may be visiting this thread what is going on, but with so many lies, false witnessing and logical fallacies being employed by @JoChris, it’s probably beneficial to everyone to expose her evil tactics.

I see that @A Freeman claimed that AJH's religion is true Christianity.

One of many lies. No such claim has ever been personally made.

There is no such thing as “AJH’s religion”, nor any new religion, nor has there ever been any claim made that what is being shared has anything to do with the organized religion that deceitfully refers to itself as “Christianity”, nor has any claim been made about “true Christianity” (an oxymoron, as there is nothing true about “Christianity”, as it has nothing to do with Christ/the Truth other than to use and abuse His Name).

So this single sentence contains at least 3 LIES and a strawman argument.

If that is true

As above. It isn’t true, which is why you didn’t provide any quote. It’s called bearing false witness, but pointing that out to you in the past appears to have made little or no affect.

AJH will have kept paganism completely out of his new religion, including his "The way home or face the face" book.

There is no paganism taught anywhere in Scripture.

Scripture, including the Old Covenant/Tetament, the New Covenant/Testament, the Koran/Quran and The Way home of face The Fire CONDEMN the practices of paganism, found in ALL organized religion today. Like the myriad of pagan traditions, rites and rituals found in “Christianity”, including:

- Babylonian/Roman sun-worship on Sun-days (Exod. 31:13-17),

- the Babylonian/Roman Christ-mass/Yuletide/Saturnalia (Rev. 2:6, 15),

- Babylonian/Roman Ishtar/Easter,

- the idolatrous Babylonian/Roman triad/trinity worship (Deut. 6:4; Mark 12:29; Sura 2:163),

- Babylonian/Roman infant baptism,

- Babylonian/Roman wafer and wine ritual (Jer. 7:18-19; 44:17-25) repackaged as “Holy Communion”), etc.

See what the bible says about being unequally yoked with unbelievers:

2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Please note well that nowhere in the above passage is there any mention of “Christians” being believers. Based upon their idolatrous traditions, rites and rituals, the UNBELIEVERS being referenced include “Christians”. Who else calls Christ “Lord” but does NOT do as Christ COMMANDS (Matt. 7:21-24)?

unequally yoked, what does it mean? CARM

The term “unequally yoked” is found 2 Cor. 6:14 in the KJV and the ESV. Basically, it deals with a Christian being joined together with unbelievers in an ungodly way. This should be avoided. The term comes from ancient biblical times where two oxen would be joined together with a yoke. The yoke was the wooden piece that went around their necks so they could be teamed up and controlled. If one ox was weaker than the other, then they were unequally yoked and would not perform well together.

In the context of Paul’s writing, it appears that Paul was dealing with the paganism found in the Corinthian area. He says in the following verses, “Or what harmony has Christ with Belial or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? 16 or what agreement has a temple of God with idols?” (2 Cor. 6:15-16). Belial was a very negative term.

The statement that this passage is somehow depicting “Christians” as believers is simply a LIE (#4) that “Christians” tell themselves so they don’t have to face the fact that they are UNBELIEVERS that don’t know nor love Christ.

1 John 2:3-5
2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, IF we keep His Commandments.
2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth NOT His Commandments, is a LIAR, and the truth is NOT in him.
2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

2:15 At any given moment in time, a soul would need to be (and is) exactly where it has earned the right to be, by all its previous actions and thoughts, in eternal-time, and for the circumstances to change, to coincide with what was deserved. This would teach and encourage the good, and punish the evil, so that those who opened their spiritual-eyes and sought to, would be able to make sense of their lives: past; present and future. This would then encourage child-like (not childish) faith and trust, in God and doing His Will, leading to even more dependence and closeness to Him, and yet more faith, until they came to KNOW and love Him.

That is a very generalised statement following on from previous verses.

That LIE (#5) may be what Satan wants people to believe to keep them ignorant of its message, but the above statement of fact is truthfully very specific and vitally important to anyone who values their Eternal Life.

John 17:3 And THIS is Life Eternal, that they might KNOW Thee the ONLY True God, AND Christ the Saviour, whom Thou hast sent.

How could anyone ever get to know God by being deceitful (lying), intentionally misrepresenting the views of others, bearing false witness, etc.? One will NEVER get to know The Only True God and Father of Christ, the Saviour, nor get to know Christ as long as one refuses to REPENT and return to keeping The Law/Commandments of God.

Perfect karma/Divine Justice really ought to encourage people to be honest and do good rather than continually do evil (lie, bear false witness, teach others to break God’s Law/Commandments, etc.).

Galatians 6:4-10
6:4 But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.
6:5 For every man shall bear his own burden (responsibility for sin).
6:6 Let him that is taught in the Word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things.
6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, THAT shall he also reap.
6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth [according] to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap Life everlasting.
6:9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
6:10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all [men], especially unto them who are of the household of faith.

 

[A Freeman]

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2:16 This is perfectly symbolized by the ancient Roman’s symbol of the mirror, for Venus, their goddess of love. The mirror reflects exactly what is shown to it....

Why is a self-professed Jesus reborn (i.e. reincarnated) quoting pagan mythology as if it is a good thing? .

More dishonesty (lies) and logical fallacies (irrational nonsense).

Lie #6 (and a strawman argument): When has JAH EVER claimed to be Jesus, the human son born of the virgin Mary in Bethlehem of Judea, here on Earth (and thus OF THIS WORLD, hence the designation “Son of Man”)? Jesus was crucified, died and was buried, and 3 days and 3 nights later God raised Jesus from the dead.

JAH IS The Messiah/Christ, i.e. Prince Michael. Prince Michael/Christ is definitely NOT OF THIS WORLD exactly as He said 2000 years ago through the mouth of Jesus.

It is CHRIST Who is prophesied to return, in a NEW BODY (Gen. 49:10, 22-24) with a NEW NAME (Rev. 2:17; 3:12; 19:12) THAT NOBODY KNOWS SAVING HE THAT RECEIVES IT (Matt. 11:27-28).

Lie #7: Omitting part of that verse, even to discuss it later, is dishonest and deceitful, because it intentionally takes part of it out of context to try to twist its meaning. The verse in its totality is as follows (emphasis added):

The Way home or Face The Fire
2:16 This is perfectly symbolized by the ancient Roman’s symbol of the mirror, for Venus, their goddess of love. The mirror reflects exactly what is shown to it, and so does God, the Ruler of Venus (Morning Star), in faith; good and evil.

Does a mirror not reflect exactly what is shown to it? Does God not do exactly the same? If anyone mistakenly believes either of these statements are untrue, then they very obviously have been deceived.

Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, THAT shall he also reap.

Lie #8 (as well as at least three logical fallacies): Where is the claim being made that pagan mythology is a “good thing”? All that is being pointed out is that the SYMBOL of the mirror in this particular case accurately depict God. Citing a source doesn’t mean one agrees with that source on anything other than what was specifically being cited.

The logical fallacies employed? Association fallacy (a form of ad hominem fallacy), another strawman (no claim was ever made that pagan mythology was a “good thing”), and the slippery slope fallacy applies as well.

Roman Catholicism -- the Babylonian mystery religion origin of “Christian” mythology -- correctly states that Christ is the Son of God, as the Gospel accounts do over 50 times as well. Citing that fact doesn’t mean someone automatically believes that Christ is some part of a pagan “trinity”, nor is it somehow an endorsement of any other of the mistaken beliefs of Roman Catholicism.

Further, the Bible itself likens the sons of Joseph (Ephraim and Manasseh) to “the horns of UNICORNS”

Deuteronomy 33:15-17 (KJV, with references)
33:15 And for the chief things of the ancient mountains, and for the precious things of the lasting hills,
33:16 And for the precious things of the earth and fulness thereof, and for the good will of him that dwelt in the bush (the pre-incarnate Christ - Exod. 3:1-3; 23:20-23): let the blessing come upon the head of Joseph, and upon the top of the head of him that was separated from his brethren (see Gen. 49:10, 22-24).
33:17 His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and HIS HORNS ARE LIKE THE HORNS OF UNICORNS: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.

The passage above refers to the crown and birthright ultimately belonging to Joseph (1 Chron. 5:1-2), Israel’s 11th son, NOT Judah, Israel’s 4th son. It defines Ephraim and Manasseh to be LIKE the “horns” (kings and their kingdoms – Dan. 7:24; Rev. 17:12) of UNICORNS, the latter of which is a MYTHICAL creature; a white horse with a single, unique horn coming from its head.

Only a complete fool would look at the above passage and satanically derive from it that the Bible is claiming that unicorns are presently running around on Earth, or that we should believe in mythologies. As anyone can read for themselves, it is simply SYMBOLICALLY likening Ephraim and Manasseh to the HORNS (kings/kingdoms), just as the reference to the MIRROR in The Way home or face The Fire (TWHOFTF) 2:16 is likening the MIRROR to God.

So The Way home or face The Fire is doing exactly as the rest of Scripture does, to teach the humble and child-like (Matt. 18:1-4) to see things as they really are, rather than as one imagines them to be (Gen. 6:5). Who is in a better position to teach and correct you than God?

The goddess was not exactly a virtuous woman of good christian character.

Lie #9 (and another strawman fallacy): Where is a claim being made that this MYTHICAL goddess was allegedly virtuous? The reference being made was to the SYMBOL OF THE MIRROR.

Lie #10 (and a pro hominem logical fallacy): there is no such thing as a “good christian character” (Ps. 53:1-3; Rom. 3:10-12). Do “Christians” not admit that they are sinners? What is a sinner if not someone who thinks, says and does evil by breaking God’s Laws? How could someone who does evil believe that they are somehow good (Matt. 19:17)?

How totally irrational/illogical!

She most certainly broke the "thou shalt not commit adultery" commandment!

How could a MYTHICAL character “certainly” break any Commandment, given the fact that they don’t actually exist?

Again, the association fallacy is desperately being used to LIE (#11), to try to con people into believing that the LIE that Christ would ever support adultery, just as the Roman Catholic church tried to do by adding the story of the adulterous woman to the original text of the Bible.

The rest of the article and picture, etc. is all part of a desperate smear campaign to do the same (and a red herring), to divert everyone’s attention from the fact that we are discussing the symbology of a MIRROR, and NOT the merits of a mythical goddess.

In Roman mythology, Venus is the mythical goddess of love. In REAL Life, God -- the Ruler of Venus (the Morning Star) AND THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE – IS Love. God IS Love.

..and so does God, the Ruler of Venus (Morning Star), in faith; good and evil.

the Christian God is ruler over everything.

Lie #12 (and another series of logical fallacies, e.g. strawman, bandwagon, cherry-picking): pretending that saying God is the Ruler of Venus (Morning Star) is somehow claiming that God isn’t The Ruler of the Universe is totally dishonest. Particularly given that just 3 verses later that point is made crystal clear.

The Way home or Face The Fire
2:19 No human friend can be with you 24 hours a day, every day, everywhere you go. Your human friends can not protect you from the Devil, and really, they are all bad, whereas GOD IS GOOD AND THE RULER OF THE UNIVERSE, the most powerful “Force” in the whole of creation.

Lie #13: the god of “Christianity” is unquestionably Satan according to Christ (Matt. 7:21-27), because “Christianity” teaches the exact opposite of what God and His Christ teach. And no, Satan clearly doesn’t rule over everything, as he is kept here on Earth by God, until Judgement Day.

Matthew 11:25
At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth...

...because Thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

Shouldn’t we worship The ONLY TRUE GOD and Father of our Lord Christ, the Saviour instead of the “Christian” god?

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto MY Father, and your Father; and [to] MY God, and your God.

2 Corinthians 1:3 Blessed [be] God, even the Father of our Lord Christ the Saviour, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;

1 Peter 1:3 Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Christ the Saviour, which according to His abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

 

[A Freeman]

The following "verses" sound similar to Word of Faith's false doctrines but it is way more extreme.

Two more LIES (#14 and #15) and another pathetic smear campaign attempt through more logical fallacies (association fallacy, red herring, ad hominem). NOWHERE does the following verse talk about worldly wealth/financial prosperity (shown below in its original form, without satanic insertions), nor even hint at it. And yet it is allegedly “way more extreme” simply by talking about being rewarded with MORE FAITH, and the lasting JOY and HEALING that comes with the DESTRUCTION OF SELF-ISHNESS.

You have to be extremely evil to try to con people into believing that talking about being full of God’s Light and Love, through the literal DESTRUCTION OF SELF-ISHNESS (emptying your vessel), is allegedly the exact opposite: i.e. some sort of worldly wealth/prosperity doctrine (Isa. 5:20-21). READ IT FOR WHAT IT ACTUALLY SAYS, RATHER THAN READING INTO IT EVIL WHERE NONE EXISTS.

TRUE Faith is absolutely magical (i.e. of, relating to, or having special powers to make things happen that would usually be impossible:

Matthew 19:26 But Jesus beheld [them], and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but WITH GOD ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.

2:17 If a soul gives 5% faith to God, He repays it with 5%, and so on, up to 100% faith, receiving 100% repayment from God. This faith in the unseen and the magic, of having personal miracles, which were previously thought to be only coincidences, having the effect of an ADDICTIVE drug, that HEALS absolutely everything, with NO ill effects. The addiction increases the child-like faith, and the destruction of self-ishness, until 100% faith is achieved, along with a spiritual joy (lasting, unlike human fragile and therefore very temporary happiness) that no-one can take away from you (if you have it), and a “cup that runs over” (total fulfillment - no emptiness - so full of the healing “Light” and Love, that you cannot help but overflow towards others, wanting to share the experience with them, because it is so wonderful).

I do not remember reading any Christian/ pseudo-Christian saying "faith in unseen and the magic" as if they approve of it before!!!!

What a striking admission of a total lack in Faith in our ALL-POWERFUL and INVISIBLE God.

Matthew 19:26 But Jesus beheld [them], and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but WITH GOD ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.

Luke 18:8 I tell you that He will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of Man cometh, shall he find Faith on the Earth?

Same for promising what sounds like guaranteed spiritual ecstasy if a person has enough faith.

Why would any rationally-minded individual believe that God would punish them for having MORE Faith in this nearly faithless world rather than reward them with additional spiritual insight, wisdom and faith?

When someone awakens spiritually, and thus begins to see (take notice of) the daily, personal miracles that God sends into their lives, how could they not be personally filled with Love and Joy to overflowing?

The help one needs showing up at just the right moment. The perfect solution to an issue coming to mind just when it seemed it was beyond hope. Needed materials literally showing up or being donated in one way or another, at the exact time they’re needed or, sometimes before you even know that they will be needed! It’s absolutely amazing, and once it has been experienced, you not only want it to continue, but you want others to be blessed with the same experiences.

Regardless of how nasty and evil you have been @JoChris, it would be wonderful if only you could experience this level of Love and Joy too. THAT is what is wished for, that you too would have a change of heart, learn what TRUE Faith really is, and experience the blessings that can only come from God. When people see miracles, they naturally associate them with magic, just as when Jesus, and later the disciples, were able to heal others because of their Faith in Father that He would heal the others through them.

Even Jesus said that he could do NOTHING without Father’s Help (John 5:19-20), but WITH Father ALL things are possible.

NONE of that has anything to do with acquiring or hoarding wealth. It’s the exact opposite. It has to do with learning that IF you truly need something to do Father’s Will, Father WILL provide it, one way or another. Just be prepared to be completely amazed at the countless ways in which He can do it.

I have heard Charismatics promising "joy in the Spirit" if we truly walk in the Spirit but AJH takes it way beyond that!!!!

Exactly as one would expect from Christ, The Light of the world!!!!

2:18 God, being the answer to every question, and the cure for every ill, is the ONLY thing that every SOUL needs, because with God, a soul has EVERYTHING it NEEDS (God being the source and supply of “Light” and everything good - Matt. 6:33 & Luke 12:31). God is the best friend that any soul can ever have (for ever), and He is with you 24 hours a day, wherever you go.

Where is this said in the BIBLE [paraphrased]?

Exodus 15:26 And said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the "I AM" thy God, and wilt do that which is right in His eyes, and wilt give ear to His Commandments, and keep all His Statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I [am] the "I AM" that healeth thee.

Matthew 6:33 But seek ye FIRST The Kingdom of God, and HIS Righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Luke 12:31 But rather seek ye The Kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you.

1 Thessalonians 5:17 PRAY WITHOUT CEASING.

Ephesians 6:18 Praying constantly (without ceasing) with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all holy people;

"If you believe in God, in this life you will get every question answered, every cure, every problem solved.... 100% GUARANTEED!"

It’s not belief “in” God, but rather KNOWING God is Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent, Loving, Kind, Just, Fair, Merciful, Gracious, Patient and Long-Suffering, and that He would like nothing more than for His Children to learn to be good so we can come home, to Heaven.

That is the Word of Faith's health, wealth and prosperity doctrine, commonly known as the "name it and claim it" or "blab it and grab it"....

No, it isn’t. It’s the exact opposite. This is just another LIE (#16) that you wish to promote so that you can continue to try to “poison the well” (another logical fallacy) for Satan, instead of learning to Love, Know and SERVE God.

It is impossible to serve both God and materialism (Matt. 6:24; 19:24), the latter of which is destroying this world and all Life on this planet (Rev. 11:18).

with God answering every question telepathically on top of that.

If you’re not listening to and talking to God telepathically (praying without ceasing), then you are automatically listening to and talking to the Devil/Satan (which would explain all of the lies, false accusations and logical fallacies you tell, use and promote).

2:19 No human friend can be with you 24 hours a day, every day, everywhere you go. Your human friends can not protect you from the Devil, and really, they are all bad, whereas God is good and the Ruler of the Universe, the most powerful “Force” in the whole of creation.

What an amazing friend to have!

Anthony John Hill's promise that God will be your magic genie in every way imaginable - including being your constant advisor and companion - would be SO spiritually seductive to hurting lonely people, especially those feeling powerless and uncertain.

Thank-you for again proving JAH is Christ, unwitting as it may have been.

Matthew 19:26 But Jesus beheld [them], and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but WITH GOD ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.

1 John 1:1-4
1:1 That which was from the Beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of The Word of Life;
1:2 (For the Life was manifested, and we have seen [it], and bear witness, and show unto you that Eternal Life, which was WITH the Father, and was manifested unto us;
1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship [is] with the Father, and with His Son Christ, the Saviour.
1:4 And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.

Notes/Observations:
In just trying to explain how 5 verses from The Way home or Face The Fire by JAH allegedly mean the exact opposite of what they actually say, there are at least 16 outright lies and/or intentional misrepresentations, along with multiple logical fallacies, and multiple examples of bearing false witness (either intentionally or due to incompetence).

How obvious does this outright venomous hatred and dishonesty need to be before people actually see it?

How can ANYTHING be trusted coming from someone who repeatedly imagines evil of others (Gen. 6:5), including imagining evil of God Himself? If someone feels the need to tell so many lies and resort to so many deceitful and completely irrational tactics, and refuses to repent of such evil, why should anyone waste their time reading any of their totally satanic drivel?

And what is everyone so afraid of here? If any of you honestly believe that The Way home or Face The Fire by JAH is as silly and unbelievable as @JoChris claims, why worry about it?

If, on the other hand, you can see the Truth it reveals, and how it lines up perfectly with Scripture, then it should be self-evident why The Way home or Face The Fire by JAH doesn’t need anyone to defend it, which is true of ALL of God Word/Message of Truth.

The Truth is The Truth regardless of whether unbelievers (the spiritually “dead”) cannot see it.

All one needs to do to prove to themselves that something is the Word of God is to accept the challenge Christ gave us 2000 years ago.

John 7:16-19
7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but His that sent me.
7:17 If any man will do His will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or [whether] I speak of myself.
7:18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh His glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.
7:19 Did not Moses give you The Law, and [yet] none of you keepeth The Law? Why go ye about to kill me?

Let us REASON together to do Father’s Will here on Earth, as it is done in heaven (Matt. 6:9).

May God Bless everyone reading this so that they too may find the Love, Joy, Wisdom and Fellowship that only having a Constant Companion in God can bring.

Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men (Luke 2:14).

 

[Floridafoot]

From Colossians:
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
And..
18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,