because we all have different opinions here and that's ok. some of us stumble across this and just like to see other views. i know a lot of people wouldn't agree with me being bisexual or trans but i'm still allowed to read this. a lot of the stuff i read is offensive to me but that's ok because i know a lot people don't believe in the same things as I do. and I think discussions and challenging opinions is good within this forum. I've noticed a lot of people get defensive here as soon as you start to challenge the views.Wait a minute, why are there so many discussions of people being delusional over the fact that kpop is a bad industry and promotes satanism, transgenderism , eating disorders.
This thread is for exposing them, it even reads Kpop and satanic influences/illuminati soooo y'all clicked here knowing what its about. Then why are you trying to say otherwise
Yes you are allowed to read and challenge, but this person clearly doesn't believe the whole foundation of this forum which is different, I think all of us here believe at least that the 1Lluminati exist, and that their symbolism is present in the entertaiment industry, instead she is only saying that we are insensitive and wrong for believing that, why is she so earnestly trying to stop us, or trying to convince us that it doesn't exist and that kpop industry is innocent and pure?because we all have different opinions here and that's ok. some of us stumble across this and just like to see other views. i know a lot of people wouldn't agree with me being bisexual or trans but i'm still allowed to read this. a lot of the stuff i read is offensive to me but that's ok because i know a lot people don't believe in the same things as I do. and I think discussions and challenging opinions is good within this forum. I've noticed a lot of people get defensive here as soon as you start to challenge the views.
I understand from where you are coming from, and I am not gonna tell you what to do with your life..you are free to read and express your opinion, some of the members here get defensive though, I have no problem seeing different opinionTo be clear, I didn’t say the industry was innocent and pure. I said it has problems as has the entertainment industry worldwide.
I said that compared to western lyrics, many Kpop lyrics were relatively benign and the work ethic, humility and lifestyle of many young Kpop artists is envious compared to that of western artists.
I have acknowledged there are problems in the industry but that is very different to saying it’s members are under the influence of the occult.
If you are going to post controversial theories on public forums then don’t be surprised if people come along and read them.
Oh and not that I owe you an explanation, but I have lots of time to read on here because I am currently recovering from a very serious, life-threatening illness which means I am pretty much restricted to the house. My daughters are at school/university during the day and are pretty much able to look after themselves. Even if they weren’t, I am limited until what I can do for them because I am unwell enough to do so right now. I have a brain injury as a result of my illness, which is why my posts tend to be long as I’m not very good at finding the words to express myself.
I agree about some getting defensive..I have no problem with different opinion being discussedbecause we all have different opinions here and that's ok. some of us stumble across this and just like to see other views. i know a lot of people wouldn't agree with me being bisexual or trans but i'm still allowed to read this. a lot of the stuff i read is offensive to me but that's ok because i know a lot people don't believe in the same things as I do. and I think discussions and challenging opinions is good within this forum. I've noticed a lot of people get defensive here as soon as you start to challenge the views.
I have noticed also this trend, it seems like Kpop groups are debuting for the sake of going solo and acting in Kdrama.. but whats the purpose? if they want to go solo then just be solo, no need to be in a group, and if they want acting, then just go to Kdrama..I didn't know whats the purpose of thisX1 group will be disbanded..I knew, I knew from beginning- that group was another "Wanna One" group and they would face same disbandment tragedy
They debuted only 5 months..I think- This is a new politic in kpop.."Make a group with 10+ members, 1 or 2 song debut , then disbandment within 6 months, then create more groups or solo singers or k-drama actors using those poor singers, and crazy fans will support all of those new new small groups ...After all more more groups, more new money"- this is a game, guys..
((((What if the young idols who are being mentioned here as transgender or gay are being falsely accused? What if that makes their families unhappy with them? What if it puts them under so much pressure they harm themselves? ))))I’m sorry you were treated that way and I’m sorry it was frightening for you. I understand why you would think that there are aspects of western society where homosexuality is glamourised and seen as something to be proud of. However I can assure you that it is not the position I am coming from.
I come from a small part of the UK were opinion over divided still about homosexuality. Most Christians where I live are completely opposed to it and simply won’t tolerate it. They treat the lgbt community with disdain and that saddens me.
As a Christian, I don’t want to hate anyone. I don’t “approve” of gay marriage. I know that homosexuality isn’t scriptural and I know that God didn’t intend people of the same sex to have sexual relationships with each other. However, what do I do as a Christian if I have friends, relatives or acquaintances who are gay? Well, Jesus preached that the greatest commandment of all was that we love one another. Therefore I believe it is my duty to treat others with love and respect. I don’t have to like what they are doing. I just have to love them regardless. As a younger person, I might not have understood that as well as I do now.
I can understand where you are coming from when you say it seems like society has given way to homosexuality and that it has been accepted widely.
I understand there are still areas of the world where it isn’t acceptable and I understand there are communities - especially religious ones - who really don’t want it to be acceptable.
However, it isn’t about homosexuality being acceptable. It is about how we treat other people and it is so important in this age of ever increasing secularity, that those who do have religious faiths shine as a light for that faith by displaying love and tolerance towards others. Show people firstly how your faith teaches you to love others. People reject religion because they falsely believe that it is a weapon of hate. If we show them it isn’t, that it is really a source of love and compassion, then we are truly doing what our individual faiths require us to. I know it might feel like we are giving in, but we’re really not. We are showing that even though we may not agree with how people live, we are capable of showing love nevertheless.
By calling celebrities out for being gay or transgender, we risk people seeing us as hate-filled, religious fanatics.
I can tell you that no matter how it may seem there is still much persecution of the lgbt community in western society. I might not approve of how gay people live, but I don’t want them to be harmed or become mentally ill as a result of it. As a Christian if a young gay or transgender person came to me, I would want to be able to help them. I wouldn’t want my attitude to add to their sadness.
Every one is talking here about the occult and Satan, but nothing gives him more pleasure than seeing Christians or Buddhists or Muslims or whatever religion speculating and putting forward conspiracies which are based on things we don’t know to be true. All this speculation plays right into the hands of evil.
Haven’t we been taught to be better than that? What if the young idols who are being mentioned here as transgender or gay are being falsely accused? What if that makes their families unhappy with them? What if it puts them under so much pressure they harm themselves? They live in a culture which doesn’t fully accept homosexuality. However it is a culture which does not frown upon skin ship between same sexes. It is normal there. We have no right, outside of that culture, to interpret it as anything else.
I am not asking you to change your religious beliefs. I am just asking people to think about their motivation for accusing idols of being gay or transgender without actually knowing if you be true. That’s not our decision to make. It could really adversely affect someone’s life and we have no right to do that.
Yes, you can speculate on a conspiracy thread about whatever you want to. However, please remember when you’re doing so that this isn’t a game. It is an actual person’s life.
I saw someone speculate somewhere about certain idols allowing family members to be sacrificed for their careers. That really is a terrible, terrible thing to say. How would any of us feel if we were wrongly accused of letting a loved one die? This is not a game. There are real people behind this and you have no proof for any if this speculation.
Yes I know they do that. Some fans even go as far as to say that they would prefer their male idols to be gay, so that other girls cannot have a relationship with them. I think it’s quite sad that idols are discouraged from having relationships because their fans don’t like it. I know many here don’t like Taemin but I saw him comment on an IG live recently that on cold, dark winter nights living alone can become quite lonely. That is one unfortunate aspect of the Kpop industry.((((What if the young idols who are being mentioned here as transgender or gay are being falsely accused? What if that makes their families unhappy with them? What if it puts them under so much pressure they harm themselves? ))))
but the whole Kpop fans have been doing it since forever about speculating who is gay and who is not
there is very popular thread created about this with millions views and still going till today, and they call so many idols gays
Which male idols do you think are gay?
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example of gross thing Kpop fans doing which reduced them to just sex
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so how about Kpop fans stop doing that?
some Kpop fans goes far to put some board about there favorite ships in the concert, and they get even angry with other fans over there about who is the real ship is...Kpop fans are not going to stop doing so many wrong things..so speculating about who is gay is very much part of Kpop since its creation..so if you are going to say, try say that in a Kpop forum, and they are going to eat you for questioning them..they are so fanatic and toxic
honestly, of anything, it sound that calling for publicizing Homosexuality and gay idols is growing as each day passesYes I know they do that. Some fans even go as far as to say that they would prefer their male idols to be gay, so that other girls cannot have a relationship with them. I think it’s quite sad that idols are discouraged from having relationships because their fans don’t like it. I know many here don’t like Taemin but I saw him comment on an IG live recently that on cold, dark winter nights living alone can become quite lonely. That is one unfortunate aspect of the Kpop industry.
There does seem to be a growing trend on platforms such as twitter however, for fans to call other fans out for doing it and asking others not to speculate about the sexuality of idols. There seems to be a growing realisation that it’s not fair to speculate about idols’ sexuality.
True and as opposed as you are, you must be "open minded" too.because we all have different opinions here and that's ok. some of us stumble across this and just like to see other views. i know a lot of people wouldn't agree with me being bisexual or trans but i'm still allowed to read this. a lot of the stuff i read is offensive to me but that's ok because i know a lot people don't believe in the same things as I do. and I think discussions and challenging opinions is good within this forum. I've noticed a lot of people get defensive here as soon as you start to challenge the views.
The devil comes in all shadesKpop is a great genre for pushing the agenda of gender fluidity, homosexuality, "innocent" sexuality, pedaphilia, abuse, obssesion with outer appearance.To be clear, I didn’t say the industry was innocent and pure. I said it has problems as has the entertainment industry worldwide.
I said that compared to western lyrics, many Kpop lyrics were relatively benign and the work ethic, humility and lifestyle of many young Kpop artists is envious compared to that of western artists.
I have acknowledged there are problems in the industry but that is very different to saying it’s members are under the influence of the occult.
If you are going to post controversial theories on public forums then don’t be surprised if people come along and read them.
Oh and not that I owe you an explanation, but I have lots of time to read on here because I am currently recovering from a very serious, life-threatening illness which means I am pretty much restricted to the house. My daughters are at school/university during the day and are pretty much able to look after themselves. Even if they weren’t, I am limited until what I can do for them because I am unwell enough to do so right now. I have a brain injury as a result of my illness, which is why my posts tend to be long as I’m not very good at finding the words to express myself.
Thank you for your good wishes. It is my duty as a mother to be involved in my daughters’ lives, even though they are almost grown up. I also like to keep myself in touch with what is going on in the world and since I have been ill, I have had more time to do that than most. My daughters are very different. One studies theology at University and the study hopes to study music production/performance at university next year. She sings - obviously a wide range of music from classical to more popular but she does follow Kpop.The devil comes in all shadesKpop is a great genre for pushing the agenda of gender fluidity, homosexuality, "innocent" sexuality, pedaphilia, abuse, obssesion with outer appearance.
As I said before the entertainment industry is a dirty business. And anything that seems too far fetched to believe is probably true. Kpop certainly does seem more innocent then american pop, there I totally agree with you. But that should make you question it more.
When I see these korean artists i still dont think of them being in an occult but I know they are because they show it to us.This thread has over 480 pages discussing what they do.
Now I know you don't believe in the occult in their entertainment industry but bear with me here with these questions.
1) What do you think their symbols mean?
2) Why don't they have freedom to do whatever they want?
3) Why do young teenagers aspire to change everything about themselves to look like these people
4) Why are they called 'idols'
5) Why do they mainly concentrate on visuals
6) Why do young people kill themselves when these artists die.
When you answer all of these you will get my point. And if you are Christian you'll notice how evil this is.
And also I hope and pray you get well. The fact that you're a mother on this thread is quite cool. I know my mother wouldn't dare click on anything with illuminati written on it.
no don't worry, these things aren't getting to me, i just meant some things like people's stances on homosexuality and transgenders didn't align with my views. but a lot of you have since said you wouldn't go out of your way to make someone LGBT feel bad so while our views don't align I'm respectful of how you choose to live and view the world just as you should for me too. and yes I have believed in illuminati and satanic influences since i was about 8 years old, so 10 years ago, actually thanks to this website lol. I've never been religious and my feelings on religion are neutral but ofcourse i believe there is a dark side and dark motive to everything. I like coming here because it's a different viewpoint and i believe some parts and don't believe others. so yes i am very open minded. I do appreciate you all being kind and willing to discuss though!!True and as opposed as you are, you must be "open minded" too.
I personally won't go to a Kpop thread discussing their love for Kpop and its innocece because I don't believe in that. So I would gladly skip that. But that's just me.
If you have a different opinion about Kpop on this thread and decide to voice it then discuss it in a respectful manner with plenty of facts to back up what you are reading. And the fact that you clicked on this thread clearly shows that you have some doubt's about the industry otherwise you would've skipped over it like most people.
And also if these things on the thread are getting to you then why are still reading?
I think it have to do with the MK Ultra- acting gives more opportunity to live in a role, which is alter personality.I have noticed also this trend, it seems like Kpop groups are debuting for the sake of going solo and acting in Kdrama.. but whats the purpose? if they want to go solo then just be solo, no need to be in a group, and if they want acting, then just go to Kdrama..I didn't know whats the purpose of this
How very naive you are. You clearly know nothing about how the world works.You know that, for the entire time that we have been conducting this forum, a huge amount of such news has appeared, and NOTHING has happened, WOW. And we DO NOT claim that our theories are true, I’m writing about this to you for the first time! Even if they want us they cannot blame for something, since we are not citizens of South Korea.
You sound a little upset?St. Patrick, how you enrage me with your stupidity! We DO NOT APPROVE THAT THIS IS TRUTH. We assume and reason. Your warnings are useless and I have already explained why. Seriously, get out of here.
So, what you don’t believe what you write? I’m confused?You sound a little upset?
A troll? No, I’m not a troll.you sound like a troll