Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

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I’m going to share this information only because you believe in reincarnation.
We have reincarnated on this earth to fulfill a mission, usually our life’s purpose which is always to help people In some way. Some people come on this earth to live out their karmas and earth is a perfect place to do that since we have so much suffering and traumas here. Some people just reincarnate to help speed up their spiritual evolution and to ascend. We have 7 density’s and currently we are 3rd density. Once you get to 7th density you become one with creator and have a STO lifestyle which is service to others. You work on yourself while helping others in all 6 densities. You need to gain the appropriate knowledge and have different experiences including traumatic experiences to understand others and gain empathy. In order to live a STO lifestyle you need to understand people’s traumatic experiences and the situations they are going through. We have “amnesia” when we are born in 3rd density because we usually have many lives over a course of a thousand years usually. So if you remember all those lives you’d get so bored with life and may fall into the same mistakes/habits that you had in your past lives. Before you are born, you make contracts with people you will reincarnate with and plan out goals you want to achieve with those people and goals you want to achieve with yourself. You also plan the lessons you want to learn. Then you are born with remember nothing but since you have free will(I can take another hour talking about free will lol but to sum it up everyone has free will to make the decisions they want to make in their lives that’s not pre planned before you are born) its up to you on how you will turn your pre planned lessons/goals into experience. But you will and actually have to accomplish the goals and learn the lessons you made before you were born even if you have to go down a path of suffering to achieve it. Synchronicities will show up in your life that will tell you if you are on the path to these goals or life lessons But not everyone knows what the signs are for synchronicities.

3rd density living can be easily manipulated since we don’t have the power to hear peoples thoughts(that’s 4th density) in 4th density, Earth could never exist because people would know what everyone’s thinking so we would know what the governments agendas and lies are. 3rd density is where obsession with money, looks, material things, and celebrities can only manifest. So people in the occult know this knowledge and they try to bring each individual off their spiritual path to make them reincarnate back onto this earth or planets alike to bascially make them slaves to this manipulation and to feed off of people’s energy when they are having negative emotions and traumatic events. People in power feed off of this energy, it’s like they farm us to feed off this energy. And I mean this literally. Negative beings like demons(or if you believe in this also higher up bad aliens) need food, and there food is negative energy which keeps them alive, unlike good beings we don’t need to feed off of negative energy to live since we are one with the creator, which is why people in power will never fix problems that bring about traumas or people suffering. They need people to be in that state. It’s a whole system they created. They have this smart setup where when you are born you worship celebrities who show off their mansions, cars, clothes, shoes, purses, etc to get us chasing after that. To keep us mind controlled on things that do not help our spiritual evolution whatsoever. We have to live a STO(service to self) lifestyle but they manipulate us to be selfish and to have a big ego where we always try to be better than others. Obviously majority of people on this earth are poor so if they make us buy things we don’t need and go into debt because of it that creates problems in peoples lives(anything to create struggling problems) and causes sadness and anger or just negative emotions in general.
So how humans are meant to live..I have no idea LOL. I just think the way we living now is not right. Living a life of being brainwashed, mind controlled and manipulated is just not right. We are just meant to help others and gain knowledge to eventually become one with the creator to have a dissolution of individual existence and achievement of infinite consciousness that permeates all life and all existence.
i didn’t just come up with all this stuff myself though, some of the things I said is the truth but after reading so many books about ancient occult’s and religions, philosophy, spirituality, alchemy, physics, ancient history, esotericism and listening to people’s stories all over the world I have and others have came to conclusion that this is the truth about life. of course this isn’t the truth for everyone since we are all on different spiritual evolutions and come from different countries and grow up with different religions so I understand if people don’t understand or agree.
oh thanks for sharing that, you are more knowledgeable about this subject than me
yeah Buddha also speak about Demon, it called Mara and he said that Mara actually rule this world we are in, bcz its negative world

its truth what you are saying, don't be shy from it

(((( Once you get to 7th density you become one with creator and have a STO lifestyle which is service to others.))))
thats very similar to Buddhism, which is the goal to be Bodhisatva, is to serve others

(((Before you are born, you make contracts with people you will reincarnate with and plan out goals you want to achieve with those people and goals you want to achieve with yourself)))
I have heard of this, and was wondering some people suffer so bad..how come they agree with this contract?
I defiantly would not agree with it, but may when we are not in Human being body, we think differently
 






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While I’m in the subject...you are all on here speculating about people’s sexuality or gender and assuming you know things about them that you have absolutely no evidence for. You have absolutely no regard for how that might make them or their families feel or how much hatred it might stir up for them in a country where homosexuality and transgenderism is still taboo.
You have absolutely no right to make these assumptions about people. If any of these idols are gay or transgender, it is their right to keep it private or to reveal the truth. Not yours! It’s unfair and it’s every bit as wrong as the acts you hate in the first place.
have you read Fan Fiction that Kpop fans do(I my self never read it but have hear horror from it)
they make sexual stories among the members, and some others thing very disgusting..how is that not invading there privacy?
and its all legal and no body is doing any fuss about it, but here where we talk about the truth, a lots of people wanted to shut it down and calling it invading privacy when Kpop fans doing it always and no body trying to stop them
 






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Okay this is getting a little too pointless, no one is spreading hate, I'm certainly aren't.
What l'd like you to understand is that this forum is to discuss theories, speculations about kpop, whether you take the things that are written in here or not it's your decision. If the things that we write offend you(or you think that are offensive to someone), or that they are pointless then simply ignore it don't read it. I don't think we should change our dinamic just because it might Hurt someone's feelings, otherwise this site would be like the outside world where you can't say what you think openly.
Exactly why should someone go to prison for saying that under what you believe p***philia is a sin and homosexuality is also a sin, and it wouldn't happen because when it comes to interactions between a non believer and a believer all of those subjects are taboo so why bother
I think we should stop here, we have strayed from the main subject a lot
Wow, it’s taken thus long for the “if you don’t like it, don’t read it” comment. I’m trying to share an opinion with you which might actually open your eyes to the hatred you are spreading!
I will tell you why you could be arrested for comparing homosexuality to p*dophilia. In most countries homosexuality is not illegal. P*dophilia on the other hand, is - in fact, it is one of the most severe crimes there is. Homosexuality in most countries is not illegal but inciting hatred against someone on the basis of their sexuality or religion or race or gender is. Therefore, if you are seen to be writing posts on a public forum comparing gay people to p*dophiles then you could be seen as being guilty of inciting hatred. Both you and the people who run this forum would really need to be careful about that.
I have been trying to discuss Kpop theories and am keen to do so because I’m actually astonished by the things I have read here. I am trying desperately to understand how people come up with these theories. I’ve asked people to clarify and explain and give me evidence. No one has been able to do that.
I can accept that you think homosexuality is a sin - that’s completely fine. Do you know that it’s also a sin to speculate on people’s gender and sexuality? Do you think God would be happy about you speculating about that? They may be Kpop idols, but they are people - real people with feelings and emotions like everyone else. For some reason people here think it’s fine to accuse them of being gay, transgender, members of the occult who are capable of sacrificing their friends?
Don’t tell me to go away after reading stuff like that! I’m desperately trying to understand what makes it acceptable for people here to say that kind of stuff? What makes you any less bad for saying that than you believe they are? Tell me, I really want to understand?
 






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You are right that God has asked us to deliver the word of the gospel to every person in the world? What do you think might be the Christian’s best method of spreading that gospel? Is it to show hate towards the lgbt community, calling them trannies and genderbenders? Is it show love and understanding toward them and accept them for who they are? Do I have to answer to Gid for their behaviour or your behaviour? No I have to answer for mine and mine alone. If I have shown love and fellowship towards my fellow human being then I have completed God’s mission. If I lead people to a personal relationship with God while doing so, that’s all the better. I’m Not saying that it doesn’t matter to God whether someone is homosexual or not, I’m saying that if a person is not a Christian it won’t matter to them. They won’t be trying to live a life that is pleasing to a God, so it doesn’t matter to them if they do. If Jesus was on this earth today, I don’t think he would look down on homosexuals, just as he didn’t look down on anyone before. He would love them and welcome them and encourage others not to hate them. He would teach them and nurture them and respect them and then he would allow them to make their choices. He certainly wouldn’t hate them or call on others to. I don’t know the answer to homosexuality and Christianity. I’m just thankful I have never had to deal with it. I know of other Christian parents who have. I don’t believe that God would ask a parent to choose between him and their child. When he asked Abraham to sacrifice Isaac, Abraham put his faith in God and knew that God would provide a sacrifice. When God Abraham’s faith, he saved Isaac. That’s the action of a loving God. Where I don’t know the answers, I can only live in the way God has taught me to and that is to show love to those around me. That doesn’t mean I praise or promote homosexuality. It means I love those people and accept them, in spite of it. That’s what the younger generation of Korean idols are trying to promote - a society which is more tolerant of everyone. That’s not an evil thing to do.
The LGBT community continues to be persecuted in developed and developing countries. To believe otherwise is naive. Incidentally, Christians also continued to be persecuted in many countries throughout the world, as do women, disabled people, people of different races etc. There is no place in a civilised society for discrimination for any of those reasons.
Homosexuality is not comparable with p**dophilia. P**dophilia includes the abuse of children who cannot consent to the actions being carried out against them - with or without their knowledge. That is on the whole, not the case for two people who consent to be gay! It’s not remotely the same! P**ophilia is not a sexual preference!
see my country is absolutely against homosexuality, but when I went to online Buddhist forum(that run by western people) I was utterly called every wrong word(disgusting word that exist ever) for simply stating that Buddha wasn't in agreement with homosexuality, it was so scary how the members are responding to me, like I am committing a crime or killing there child, its very abnormal, it same like a cult that questioned there holy leader, I think the Western people have been brainwashed very much into worshiping homosexuality, its not about acceptance anymore, its about SUBMITTING into there life style and you cannot say you simply you respect them but you just disagree with Homosexuality, the biggest dangers in the West is not about anything has to do with tolerating homosexuality its ALREADY THOUSANDS TIME HAS BEEN ACCEPTED, and still they wanna force it into children, the dangers is forcing children to be transgender and homosexual, and the Western people are focusing into putting more into supporting further thing that already has been given everything..its insane whats happening
 






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1- no only rumors a quick google search will show idol real faces
kpop is an industry based on looks, and all kpop groups have a member designed as the "visual"....the talent of that person is basically to look good.

A few picures to confirm the "rumors" and show how prevalent plastic surgery is


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2- I don't think dressing underage idols in a sexual way is appropriate
There are a lot of suggestive symbols in those music videos that show the real intentions of people in power
Here is a video that explain the sexualization of kpop idols very easily


3- this has happened with several idols, BT$, Laboum, Red Velvet a few examples
and managers are also physically violent with fans so if they saw any of your children getting close to an idol they would have no problems hiting them on the face

Kpopmap Charts: Top 7 Violent and Disgraceful K-Pop Idol Managers

4- Not only Burning Sun, the show Produce 101 was revealed to give escort services in order for their idols to debut on the main group....several kpop companies were involved and the news was posted on this thread before, you can search it

5- a lot of idols drink on camera



And the unhealthy diets have being discussed several times. Idols often talk about their obsession with losing weight, and only eating once or twice a day.

But if you want to believe kpop industry is great and an example to follow then that's on you.
To me they are disney 2.0
and Kpop is also pushing some very wrong propaganda that if you like Korea, you must absolutely try Sujo..I mean what?
that trashy website allKpop are listing sujo every where as a way to show them that loving Korea and Kpop you must be drunk in sujo..very destructive propaganda they are spreading to the youth, even people that are interested in Korea
 






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Wow, it’s taken thus long for the “if you don’t like it, don’t read it” comment. I’m trying to share an opinion with you which might actually open your eyes to the hatred you are spreading!
I will tell you why you could be arrested for comparing homosexuality to p*dophilia. In most countries homosexuality is not illegal. P*dophilia on the other hand, is - in fact, it is one of the most severe crimes there is. Homosexuality in most countries is not illegal but inciting hatred against someone on the basis of their sexuality or religion or race or gender is. Therefore, if you are seen to be writing posts on a public forum comparing gay people to p*dophiles then you could be seen as being guilty of inciting hatred. Both you and the people who run this forum would really need to be careful about that.
I have been trying to discuss Kpop theories and am keen to do so because I’m actually astonished by the things I have read here. I am trying desperately to understand how people come up with these theories. I’ve asked people to clarify and explain and give me evidence. No one has been able to do that.
I can accept that you think homosexuality is a sin - that’s completely fine. Do you know that it’s also a sin to speculate on people’s gender and sexuality? Do you think God would be happy about you speculating about that? They may be Kpop idols, but they are people - real people with feelings and emotions like everyone else. For some reason people here think it’s fine to accuse them of being gay, transgender, members of the occult who are capable of sacrificing their friends?
Don’t tell me to go away after reading stuff like that! I’m desperately trying to understand what makes it acceptable for people here to say that kind of stuff? What makes you any less bad for saying that than you believe they are? Tell me, I really want to understand?
It is true, you are free to read it or not, if I see something I don't agree with in here I don't, I move on and take what I want from here.
Sorry but I haven't seen you asking that much and the little you did a member would answer and you would just refute it over and over again.
you are just lecturing us about how we are wrong for speculating, that we are insensitive towards someone's feelings you sound just like an sjw, and if you read this forum from the very beginning you would have less doubts about what we are discussing in here.
Oh like you said you don't have to answer for my or somebody elses behaviour to God,
It goes the same way for you what makes you so good to be lecturing us? Why don't you lecture the fans that also speculate, create 18+ fan fiction, and someone posted in here a video of a fan that speculated how their idol's moans would sound??? And take in account this things are in popular social media platforms
 






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I’m sorry I don’t mean to have been lecturing. I am simply struggling to understand certain attitudes.
I have read this thread from the beginning and I am not any more clear on how you have reached the conclusions you have. take Jonghyun’s suicide. I have taken several approaches. I have read media reports around his death. I have tried to find out about Korean culture surrounding funerals etc. I have used my medical background - I am a nurse - to understand what might have happened medically. I have drawn on life experience to assess how his friends appeared at his funeral. I have read your conspiracy theories. I found this thread by accident when trying to find out more about his death.
I am staggered by some of the conclusions which have been drawn here. People keep directing me to evidence when I ask questions but they aren’t providing me with any evidence. I’m sorry but someone from BTS calling their dog a certain name or them being among the first to turn up at the funeral is not enough evidence for me to accept they were involved in his death.
I have experienced suicide in my family. I know the depths someone will go to when they are determined to kill themselves, so the mystery if they rented apartment etc isn’t evidence to me either.
I am intrigued by how you all have reached these theories.Yes, I am fascinated by it and I’m trying to understand. Perhaps I’m missing something. However, there is also a part of me that wants to make you all understand that you can’t go around making accusations about things like this, because you enjoy conspiracy theories. These are real lives and real emotions you are playing with.
You do know that these idols are real people? They are not machines. They have thoughts and feelings and get hurt by stuff like this. You can’t play games like this with people's lives.
Okay maybe this is all to much for you take, and that is why you don't want to see it. But I mean when You see that v posted the name of his dog and said name is coal briquette just hours before Johngyun's dead, and what was the cause of his dead? Coal briquette poisoning, the family doesn't want to make an autopsy, the same goes with sulli's and goo har4's death, they were found dead in their respective houses, family doesn't want an autopsy they don't say from what she died, case close. So like two is coincidence but three
Kpop videos full of satanic symbolism, and the lyrics of some songs are just to explicit, like lie from b't's, pied piper, bs&t and boy meets evil, lucifer from sh1nee
Talking from personal experience when I was getting into kpop I heard from almost all boy groups no one in specific, then bt5 was going to perform at the teen choice music awards and sincerely I only heard like 1 or 2 songs from them, I desperatly wanted to see their Performance that I spent hours checking social media only to see them when I didn't really like them, they have mentioned the abraxas and it appears in some of their videos. Bs&t video is full with satanic symbolism. There are just so many things when you connect them all it doesn't seem that unreal anymore.
Also like it says in the title satanic/illum1nati influenced if you don't believe that said secret society exist then of course you aren't going to believe all the symbolism that comes with it, like I said symbolism that is present in kpop videos.
I get your point, but still this kinds of speculations come from the group itself, they push those "ships" to the fans and in fanmeets, their reality shows, etc. They give fanservice, and sorry but if you put it on the Internet, every single person with access is going to talk about it.
Trust me I don't enjoy this, for me this is the second time that I realised about all of it again, first experience was with western music I was crushed and refused to believe it, but all the signs are there that is imposible to stay blind towards it
Haha, duh of course they are real very real, I think if they(also the millions of fans) knew about this forum, then we wouldn't be here still discussing about this, would we?
 






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X1 group will be disbanded..I knew, I knew from beginning- that group was another "Wanna One" group and they would face same disbandment tragedy:(


They debuted only 5 months..I think- This is a new politic in kpop.."Make a group with 10+ members, 1 or 2 song debut , then disbandment within 6 months, then create more groups or solo singers or k-drama actors using those poor singers, and crazy fans will support all of those new new small groups ...After all more more groups, more new money"- this is a game, guys..
 






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X1 group will be disbanded..I knew, I knew from beginning- that group was another "Wanna One" group and they would face same disbandment tragedy:(


They debuted only 5 months..I think- This is a new politic in kpop.."Make a group with 10+ members, 1 or 2 song debut , then disbandment within 6 months, then create more groups or solo singers using those poor singers, and crazy fans will support all of those new new small groups ...After all more more groups, more new money"- this is a game, guys..
Wow I thought they wouldn't disband anymore groups from those shows, after wanna one was a huge succes, I Wonder what they're going to do after that
 






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Wait a minute, why are there so many discussions of people being delusional over the fact that kpop is a bad industry and promotes satanism, transgenderism , eating disorders.

This thread is for exposing them, it even reads Kpop and satanic influences/illuminati soooo y'all clicked here knowing what its about. Then why are you trying to say otherwise
 






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I’m not going to refute you that Jesus would want them to come to the cross and repent. Jesus wants all of us to come to the cross and repent. However spreading hatred and judgement, is not the way to get people to understand the love of Jesus. Showing acceptance, fair treatment and love is the way to encourage others. The best way to show God’s love is to be an example of it.
Yes, you can take a stance against it, but that doesn’t include hatred and judgement. What better example of that is there than to say, “Hey, I don’t really agree with how you live your life but I’m not going to let that stand in the way of us being friends. I’m not going to judge you for how you live because God didnt put me here to do that. I’m going to treat you equally. I’m not going to spread rumours about you. I’ll be here if you need a friend. My door is always open to you and Christ’s door is always open to you.”
That is my duty as a Christian and not knowing the answers about how they justify their lifestyle before God, it is the best I can offer. Fortunately, according to scripture, it is all God requires me to offer. I don’t need to offer judgement because God will. Some people might be surprised by the judgements God makes - and by that I mean that there may well be many Christians who think they have led a righteous, blameless life who will be surprised to find out they haven’t.
I don’t know what kind of society you live in but I can assure you that I don’t know anyone who accepts p*dophilia or relations with animals as normal. Most p*dophiles even acknowledge that their obsession with children is abnormal. Let me be absolutely clear here, p*dophilia is vile. It is abhorrent. Research has proven that without exception that cannot be rehabilitated and they should never be free to harm a child again!
Do you really class two consenting homosexual people in the same category as p*doohiles? There are countries in the world where you could be arrested for saying such a thing!
Did you hear about that guy who got married to a dog? No arrest...nothing.

I understand where you are coming from and we should treat others equally despite that things they have done or do since we dont have a squeaky clean past but if you dont believe the things that are happening then I honestly don't know.

This world is far from perfect perhaps opposite it. r*pe, witchcraft,confusion, immorality and the list goes on.

Hating people who do wrong things is just as wrong but exposing what they do to the rawest tea will help a whole lot to prevent them from being blind followers of satan. For goodness sake tise people are called idols.
The entertainment industry is sick, whether in korea, america or africa.

And also would you be friends with a satanist? Honestlysince you're saying that shouldn't get in the way of making friends.

Sometimes people need tough love to understand. Kpop creates an obsession and worship with fans, that is satanic. Throwing a triple six sign in a music video multiple times isn't a coincidence. I hope you understand
 






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Exposing people if they have done something wrong is one thing, but exposing someone because of speculation and conjecture is something else all together.
I consider myself to be an intelligent person. I am well-informed and well educated. At this point, I simply don’t even know what to say about the things which are posted here.
I have continued to post here because I actually feel concern about all of you who are posting these things. Do you understand how absolutely bizarre your thinking is?
Yes, you’re right there are really bad things happening in this world. Yes, you are right that that there are satanic influences tokay in the world. However, it’s not in the way you think it is. There is no organisation controlling people’s minds and manipulating them to behave in certain ways - well, unless you’re talking about corrupt governments etc.
Young people in western countries laugh at Kpop. They aren’t interested in it. It’s too clean for them. It’s not edgy enough. The songs and their lyrics are too innocent. They’re not explicit enough. I saw people saying that Wayv’s “Love Talk” was explicit. Yea, it was a little bit suggestive but it wasn’t explicit.
The entertainment industry is driven by what it’s audience wants. You have this the wrong way round. There is no organisation controlling the minds of the people. The people are making demands for certain content off them.
Take SuperM’s Jopping! Western Critics loved the MV. They loved the Music itself and how it was produced. They hated the lyrics. They couldn’t understand though why this epic mv and music which presented its members as avengers, had lyrics about jumping and popping? These are some of the top performers in Kpop and they looked amazing and sounded amazing but frankly for western audiences the lyrics were embarrassing. a lot if western artists would refuse to have such basic lyrics.
You have to understand that I am coming at this from a completely different perspective than you. I’m the western mother of older, teenage girls. I grew up in the UK listening to music in 1980s which really did push boundaries. When I look at music culture today, I find the innocence of Kpop refreshing. If you think the clothes they wear are too sexual or their dances inappropriate then I don’t know what to say to you. Compared to western music culture, Kpop is so clean.
Everyone is attacking me and telling me to see things from your perspective. Stop for a minute though and listen to my opinion maybe you will learn something.
"Innocence of kpop??" Have you read a single lyric from Red Velvèt's songs? Esp Cookie Jar?? Have you not read a single post on this thread. You know, I bet you're avoiding doing that.

I think you're a lost cause in every sense of the word. You haven't presented one piece of evidence proving that kpop idols aren't a part of the cult. Your only arguement is that "They're only normal human beings like me and you". That's it.

We show you symbolism found in their social media posts, their album pictures, their blatant lyrics, questionable vlives, scenes in MVs identical to Satanic Western films, clothing with the illuminàtì symbol on the back, large and proud with words like "human made" and "Hypnotize".

We show you SO much but you're turning a blind eye to literally everything because you just don't. want. to. believe it. You deny the dog claim bc you argue that coal briquette is a normal name?? A name given HOURS before a huge star they knew first-hand's death from coal? If it was just a coincidence, why wouldn't V change the name later? He seemed heartbroken in that funeral for the cameras.

You keep saying that this is our coping mechanism, making up conspiracy theories for normal events like breakdowns and bloodshed. But it's YOU that's using denial as a coping mechanism. With how long and rambly your posts are, it's like your conversing to yourself, trying to persuade yourself over and over that kpop is innocent, idols dont even know what the cult is, ped*philia is a lie, that triange sign you see everywhere is just a shape with a little eye on top that's why it's tattooed into so many people's skin, idols keep covering one eye in pictures and music videos bc their eye might be infected. Simple.

I don't understand how you think you could come to a conspiracy site and change our minds when you've blocked your own mind from everything we're saying and have already said regarding the cult and it's influence in kpop. You choose denial because it's easier than facing the truth. You're free to do that, just don't do here if you have no way of justifying your claims made against our own.
 






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Guys, I know this is off-topic but I'm pretty scared rn lmao and you guys predicted that this war would begin long before it did so I'm gonna ramble here.

Iranian missiles were striked in Kurdistan. If you are unaware, the Kurdish are a minority spread in Iraq, Turkey, Iran and Syria. The Iraqi region is where the capital of Kurdistan is, where I live. I'm Kurdish and not Arab) The missiles were dropped near an airport mere miles away from where I live against an American(?) military base. I have a strong feeling that this huge war between Iran and the US will be on my land because we're neighbours with Iran, and by fighting here, both the Iranian and American people will be safe. Kurdistan has already gone through so, so much. Just months ago in the Turkish region, the Kurds in Rojava were killed because of Trump's betrayal. If a war were to begin here, I can't imagine the scale of it. How many countries would be involved. And then in the brink of war, the antichrist would come down (as they suspect he'd come down in this region of the world) and it'd begin lmao I'm going too far but anything is possible. Everything is planned.



lol "only"


Pray for me, y'all
I am not far from where you are staying..I am in Dubai and Iran just threaten to attack it and Britain issues warning not to travel there..i know it just matter of time before they would bomb here..and burj Khalifa are certainly gonna be targeted

I believe The solution to leave middle east to Switzerland or New Zealand ..I have mentioned this in the BTS forum
 






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Exposing people if they have done something wrong is one thing, but exposing someone because of speculation and conjecture is something else all together.
I consider myself to be an intelligent person. I am well-informed and well educated. At this point, I simply don’t even know what to say about the things which are posted here.
I have continued to post here because I actually feel concern about all of you who are posting these things. Do you understand how absolutely bizarre your thinking is?
Yes, you’re right there are really bad things happening in this world. Yes, you are right that that there are satanic influences tokay in the world. However, it’s not in the way you think it is. There is no organisation controlling people’s minds and manipulating them to behave in certain ways - well, unless you’re talking about corrupt governments etc.
Young people in western countries laugh at Kpop. They aren’t interested in it. It’s too clean for them. It’s not edgy enough. The songs and their lyrics are too innocent. They’re not explicit enough. I saw people saying that Wayv’s “Love Talk” was explicit. Yea, it was a little bit suggestive but it wasn’t explicit.
The entertainment industry is driven by what it’s audience wants. You have this the wrong way round. There is no organisation controlling the minds of the people. The people are making demands for certain content off them.
Take SuperM’s Jopping! Western Critics loved the MV. They loved the Music itself and how it was produced. They hated the lyrics. They couldn’t understand though why this epic mv and music which presented its members as avengers, had lyrics about jumping and popping? These are some of the top performers in Kpop and they looked amazing and sounded amazing but frankly for western audiences the lyrics were embarrassing. a lot if western artists would refuse to have such basic lyrics.
You have to understand that I am coming at this from a completely different perspective than you. I’m the western mother of older, teenage girls. I grew up in the UK listening to music in 1980s which really did push boundaries. When I look at music culture today, I find the innocence of Kpop refreshing. If you think the clothes they wear are too sexual or their dances inappropriate then I don’t know what to say to you. Compared to western music culture, Kpop is so clean.
Everyone is attacking me and telling me to see things from your perspective. Stop for a minute though and listen to my opinion maybe you will learn something.
then why are you here wasting your time, we've already read your perspective, and you have read ours, you don't believe us at all, fine, now let us continue our "bizarre way of thinking" because we have the freedom to do so. We aren't the only ones that believe in this kinds of things, this isn't the only forum or page that talks about them heck even M tv does an article of the vmas being over 1lluminati influenced
I also thought like you, that kpop was clean from all the bs of western music, but it wasn't at all, a realised when I was listening to b t s, and then a song called boy meets evil started playing, sorry but that ain't such an innocent title, so I searched the lyrics and they where horrible, as I had prior knowledge, I searched clearly, and I found this forum, and it collided with Johngyun's death, I'm not really that emotional when it comes to deaths of celebrities, especially if I don't know them like this case, but I felt really sad for him, and I know he was important, but they even televised the funeral( you say that we are insensitive towards their family's feelings), and sincerely most of us don't talk about this topic in the real world, this is the only place where we aren't going to be judge for our concerns.
I had a friend who also likes kpop and I told him about this, of course like you, he didn't believe, and yeah he has the right to choose, so we don't talk about that, but he didn't try to change my mind about it.
 






SimpleBerry

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@Hon33

Okay maybe this is all to much for you take, and that is why you don't want to see it. But I mean when You see that v posted the name of his dog and said name is coal briquette just hours before Johngyun's dead, and what was the cause of his dead? Coal briquette poisoning, the family doesn't want to make an autopsy, the same goes with sulli's and goo har4's death, they were found dead in their respective houses, family doesn't want an autopsy they don't say from what she died, case close. So like two is coincidence but three
Kpop videos full of satanic symbolism, and the lyrics of some songs are just to explicit, like lie from b't's, pied piper, bs&t and boy meets evil, lucifer from sh1nee
Talking from personal experience when I was getting into kpop I heard from almost all boy groups no one in specific, then bt5 was going to perform at the teen choice music awards and sincerely I only heard like 1 or 2 songs from them, I desperatly wanted to see their Performance that I spent hours checking social media only to see them when I didn't really like them, they have mentioned the abraxas and it appears in some of their videos. Bs&t video is full with satanic symbolism. There are just so many things when you connect them all it doesn't seem that unreal anymore.
Also like it says in the title satanic/illum1nati influenced if you don't believe that said secret society exist then of course you aren't going to believe all the symbolism that comes with it, like I said symbolism that is present in kpop videos.
I get your point, but still this kinds of speculations come from the group itself, they push those "ships" to the fans and in fanmeets, their reality shows, etc. They give fanservice, and sorry but if you put it on the Internet, every single person with access is going to talk about it.
Trust me I don't enjoy this, for me this is the second time that I realised about all of it again, first experience was with western music I was crushed and refused to believe it, but all the signs are there that is imposible to stay blind towards it
Haha, duh of course they are real very real, I think if they(also the millions of fans) knew about this forum, then we wouldn't be here still discussing about this, would we?
Did you even read this? I think that was good summary of the recent incidents in kpop.
You want some explanation. Here you go. There's a lot to read.
We're not spreading hate towards LGBTQ. That's just not true. I think its wrong to be homosexual but im not attacking them. They are free to live their lives how they want. What do even expect from conspiracy forum? Of course we speculate, discuss and share about this topic.
 






shineefive

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Wait a minute, why are there so many discussions of people being delusional over the fact that kpop is a bad industry and promotes satanism, transgenderism , eating disorders.

This thread is for exposing them, it even reads Kpop and satanic influences/illuminati soooo y'all clicked here knowing what its about. Then why are you trying to say otherwise
because we all have different opinions here and that's ok. some of us stumble across this and just like to see other views. i know a lot of people wouldn't agree with me being bisexual or trans but i'm still allowed to read this. a lot of the stuff i read is offensive to me but that's ok because i know a lot people don't believe in the same things as I do. and I think discussions and challenging opinions is good within this forum. I've noticed a lot of people get defensive here as soon as you start to challenge the views.
 






Cherry14

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because we all have different opinions here and that's ok. some of us stumble across this and just like to see other views. i know a lot of people wouldn't agree with me being bisexual or trans but i'm still allowed to read this. a lot of the stuff i read is offensive to me but that's ok because i know a lot people don't believe in the same things as I do. and I think discussions and challenging opinions is good within this forum. I've noticed a lot of people get defensive here as soon as you start to challenge the views.
Yes you are allowed to read and challenge, but this person clearly doesn't believe the whole foundation of this forum which is different, I think all of us here believe at least that the 1Lluminati exist, and that their symbolism is present in the entertaiment industry, instead she is only saying that we are insensitive and wrong for believing that, why is she so earnestly trying to stop us, or trying to convince us that it doesn't exist and that kpop industry is innocent and pure?
 






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