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Last week here in Quebec, Canada there was the head of the FFQ ( Quebec Women's Federation) who tweeted something about how all heterosexual relations were violent, based on religion and was wondering if they should not be abolished. This was the same person who tweeted other things like pushing for the vasectomy of all 18+ years old. WTF? She also said that wearing the hijab is actually "badass" and allied herself with Islam. Never mind the fact that many Muslims routinely beat up their wives and view them as sex objects. And she is not the only one, many feminists are exactly like her.

This 3rd wave feminism is really cancer. The western world has gone insane.
Well that woman is batshit and her insanity has nothing to do with feminism. They should fire her. Like stat.
 






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Well, God provided the means for me to stay home and it was all God who provided for us.

I am a Christian, why wouldn’t God answer my prayer?
Why doesn’t he answer any of those other prayers? Surely you aren’t the only Christian on earth?
 






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Well that woman is batshit and her insanity has nothing to do with feminism. They should fire her. Like stat.
Which is exactly what most people were asking. But somehow she is still head of the FFQ, after all those insane tweets. So the government does not give a shit apparently. And other countries like Sweden where women are in power overwhelmingly accept Muslim immigrants, and if you dare bring up their crime rate you are labelled a "racist". Which is a slap in the face to those r*pe victims who have been raped by these migrants. Modern feminism has nothing to do with helping females anymore, it's about destroying the western world from the inside.
 






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Which is exactly what most people were asking. But somehow she is still head of the FFQ, after all those insane tweets. So the government does not give a shit apparently. And other countries like Sweden where women are in power overwhelmingly accept Muslim immigrants, and if you dare bring up their crime rate you are labelled a "racist". Which is a slap in the face to those r*pe victims who have been raped by these migrants. Modern feminism has nothing to do with helping females anymore, it's about destroying the western world from the inside.
You are confusing feminism with some form of government which it is not. Like absolutely not.

That woman should be fired but I am not familiar with Canada or with that organization so will not give an opinion as to why she is not. Immigration is not feminists fault. There is widespread immigration all throughout Europe and most countries in Europe are still good ol boys clubs.

I’m a female and i disagree that feminism doesn’t help me. But I guess a man would somehow know better?
 






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Last week here in Quebec, Canada there was the head of the FFQ ( Quebec Women's Federation) who tweeted something about how all heterosexual relations were violent, based on religion and was wondering if they should not be abolished. This was the same person who tweeted other things like pushing for the vasectomy of all 18+ years old. WTF? She also said that wearing the hijab is actually "badass" and allied herself with Islam. Never mind the fact that many Muslims routinely beat up their wives and view them as sex objects. And she is not the only one, many feminists are exactly like her.

This 3rd wave feminism is really cancer. The western world has gone insane.
Ya I can never understand feminists siding with muslims...they are blind.
 






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Raising a family and having children is NOT the “greatest privilege a woman can have!
Why not? A new life is untrusted to us women...that’s a great privilege and responsibility.

Just because we have a uterus and vagina and can give birth does NOT mean that it’s all us women are put on this Earth for
That should be our first clue don’t ya think? We were entrusted by God to bring children into this world..men can’t get pregnant can they? So I would say since it’s unique to us then that’s a big clue as to what we are made to do in life.
Not all of us should be brainwashed and FORCED to get pregnant, find a “husband,” and exist as UNPAID, (usually unloved, abused, mistreated, undervalued, house SLAVES)! If people who are “pro-life” had their way, ALL of us women would be barefoot and p
You are totally overreacting and I think are the brainwashed person in this if that’s what you really think.
Feminism is about women being treated as equals to our male counterparts
Is it though? Seems to me that we left our privileged positions to be stuck in a man’s role which then has screwed up families and made it hard for women to stay at home and take care of their children. It’s really sad actually.
Men of color were given the “right” to vote before Caucasian men “allowed” women to. Interesting, isn’t it? If it weren’t for the brave, revolutionary, strong, angry & fed up women who started the Women’s Liberation Feminist Movement in the 1960’s, you would probably NOT have the “right,” or “freedom” to independently use your own cellphone or computer without male “supervision!”
I was listening to Louder with Crowder the other day...interestingly enough and he was saying women didn’t want the right to vote. Personally I don’t think we should have had the right to vote..it’s none of our business what the men get up to..that’s their business. I think it was good black men were given the right as long as they became land owners...a person should have some skin in the game to decide things.

Now you’re just thinking up hypothetical situations.
Feminism was created to LIBERATE women and girls, not OPPRESS us even further
I don’t think women were freed at all..just given more work and work that aren’t theirs. They were also put into a competition with men which kills love really. Made it hard for men to make a living and has screwed over kids with the women not staying home with them and killing them in the womb..and for what? Being conceived?
Us women are not all “baby machines.” I luckily wasn’t brainwashed by my parents into feeling I “needed” to get married, pregnant, and become a housewife, and thank goodness they never pressured me into religion as well. We are all individuals as human beings, and should have the right to decide which lifestyle we can and cannot handle.
We actually are baby making machines for lack of a better word...babies can only come from females. So to be mad that you can do that is silly. It doesn’t mean that’s all you are but it does made that was what you were made to do. And it’s not the men that decreed this...it was God who did. Women should stay with being homemakers, that’s out high calling and when we left that domain we made things bad for families.
Pro-life people are basically saying that us women should be FORCED into (essentially) SLAVERY by making us “mothers,” which is a very SERIOUS, LIFELONG JOB.
I think they just don’t want to see babies die for no good reason. That’s the only human that we kill asap even death row inmates are treated with more respect in that their sentence can take decades to carry out. But the poor helpless human in the womb counting on mom to take care of it is killed on a whim and scores of women cheer on that victory...breaks my heart. All they are really cheering on is rebellion against what God said was good.
 






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Wow Lisa... I knew you were backwards but really?

Women shouldn’t have the right to vote. Black people only should if they are landowners.

That’s.... wow. Your worse then I even imagined.

FYI our “skin in the game” is being citizens of this country whom are affected by the laws and policies that go on here. That’s the only “skin in the game” we need.
 






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Why not? A new life is untrusted to us women...that’s a great privilege and responsibility.


That should be our first clue don’t ya think? We were entrusted by God to bring children into this world..men can’t get pregnant can they? So I would say since it’s unique to us then that’s a big clue as to what we are made to do in life.

You are totally overreacting and I think are the brainwashed person in this if that’s what you really think.

Is it though? Seems to me that we left our privileged positions to be stuck in a man’s role which then has screwed up families and made it hard for women to stay at home and take care of their children. It’s really sad actually.

I was listening to Louder with Crowder the other day...interestingly enough and he was saying women didn’t want the right to vote. Personally I don’t think we should have had the right to vote..it’s none of our business what the men get up to..that’s their business. I think it was good black men were given the right as long as they became land owners...a person should have some skin in the game to decide things.

Now you’re just thinking up hypothetical situations.

I don’t think women were freed at all..just given more work and work that aren’t theirs. They were also put into a competition with men which kills love really. Made it hard for men to make a living and has screwed over kids with the women not staying home with them and killing them in the womb..and for what? Being conceived?

We actually are baby making machines for lack of a better word...babies can only come from females. So to be mad that you can do that is silly. It doesn’t mean that’s all you are but it does made that was what you were made to do. And it’s not the men that decreed this...it was God who did. Women should stay with being homemakers, that’s out high calling and when we left that domain we made things bad for families.

I think they just don’t want to see babies die for no good reason. That’s the only human that we kill asap even death row inmates are treated with more respect in that their sentence can take decades to carry out. But the poor helpless human in the womb counting on mom to take care of it is killed on a whim and scores of women cheer on that victory...breaks my heart. All they are really cheering on is rebellion against what God said was good.
Just copying so you can’t edit it out.
 






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Wow Lisa... I knew you were backwards but really?

Women shouldn’t have the right to vote. Black people only should if they are landowners.

That’s.... wow. Your worse then I even imagined.

FYI our “skin in the game” is being citizens of this country whom are affected by the laws and policies that go on here. That’s the only “skin in the game” we need.
I don’t see the reason for women having the right to vote....they can make a decision with their husbands...but it should be the husbands decision.

I would say that about white men too. The only reason to give someone who doesn’t have a stake in the game the right to vote is to change the vote. If you give handouts for instance..you change the vote. However, if you have hard working men who own something the vote..they would do better in voting for good than for a hand out is all I mean.
 






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so only rich - mostly white - men have a right to have a say in how our country is run? That is really what your going to argue right now?

Even non-landowners pay property and school taxes through their rent payments. We all pay taxes for fica and Medicaid, most pay income, we all pay sales. We all live here and are affected by the laws rules and policies that our government implements. Every. Single. Person.

That isn’t about handouts. That’s about fairness and representative democracy. A bunch of wealthy white men cant speak for the whole country and shouldn’t be able to (even though that’s what ends up happening anyway).

Someone should have left you behind in the 1700’s we’d all (including you) be happier.
 






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so only rich - mostly white - men have a right to have a say in how our country is run? That is really what your going to argue right now?

Even non-landowners pay property and school taxes through their rent payments. We all pay taxes for fica and Medicaid, most pay income, we all pay sales. We all live here and are affected by the laws rules and policies that our government implements. Every. Single. Person.

That isn’t about handouts. That’s about fairness and representative democracy. A bunch of wealthy white men cant speak for the whole country and shouldn’t be able to (even though that’s what ends up happening anyway).

Someone should have left you behind in the 1700’s we’d all (including you) be happier.
Well, I don’t know what the race would be of those people..but isn’t that what it started out as being in the first place..only men who held land could vote? I think its a good incentive to make something of your life anyway.

Maybe....there is a lot to be said for having to make it on your own instead of letting the government take care of you and buying your vote off tax payers expense. That’s a poor way to run a country and a serious conflict of interest..but then we don’t live in the then but the here and now. Where coincidently women are told they don‘t need a man you can do it on your own and raise kids...where the government will help you. A poor lie for votes but here we torpedo the family to get them. And women fall for it.
 






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I was listening to Louder with Crowder the other day...interestingly enough and he was saying women didn’t want the right to vote. Personally I don’t think we should have had the right to vote..it’s none of our business what the men get up to..that’s their business. I think it was good black men were given the right as long as they became land owners...a person should have some skin in the game to decide things.
I just had to highlight it because otherwise it would have been lost. I have seen a lot of things on this forum, but this was a special sort of offense. I never pictured feeling like I was in a time machine traveling back to 1900 in a place like this.

Like seriously, you have never seen pictures like this



Although, I will admit some women didn't want the right to vote because I have read their essays from this time period. They were rich, white women in most cases. They appeared comfortable, and they probably were in some cases. In others, they were likely abused in some way as children as well and found a persona that became a good way to cope with the pain. In reality, rich white women were also given threats and privileges for their behavior that were associated with varying degrees of abuse. So I take that into consideration when I read some of the things they have to say about how a woman should stay at home and all that.

Although, some of them were just wicked women who enjoyed the sense of authority that they had over other women based on being included in a different class that afforded luxuries. This actually brings up another point. Women around the year 1900 that were "staying at home" were usually rich, working mothers managing households that could include many staff members. They weren't raising children. The nanny they managed was raising children while they were picking out dishes for the next event.

If you weren't able to afford this at the time, then you were probably working in a job that people thought women would be better at like sewing. Have you really never seen the pictures of the women working at sewing factories or something like this?

The version of the stay at home mother you are describing never existed until technology helped create a middle class and a household that could be managed by one person during the day. The boomer generation is the only generation that lived the way you are describing. No one else throughout history ever lived this way.
 






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One more time to truely highlight what you have just said.

".it’s none of our business what the men get up to..that’s their business."

 






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I just had to highlight it because otherwise it would have been lost. I have seen a lot of things on this forum, but this was a special sort of offense. I never pictured feeling like I was in a time machine traveling back to 1900 in a place like this.

Like seriously, you have never seen pictures like this



Although, I will admit some women didn't want the right to vote because I have read their essays from this time period. They were rich, white women in most cases. They appeared comfortable, and they probably were in some cases. In others, they were likely abused in some way as children as well and found a persona that became a good way to cope with the pain. In reality, rich white women were also given threats and privileges for their behavior that were associated with varying degrees of abuse. So I take that into consideration when I read some of the things they have to say about how a woman should stay at home and all that.

Although, some of them were just wicked women who enjoyed the sense of authority that they had over other women based on being included in a different class that afforded luxuries. This actually brings up another point. Women around the year 1900 that were "staying at home" were usually rich, working mothers managing households that could include many staff members. They weren't raising children. The nanny they managed was raising children while they were picking out dishes for the next event.

If you weren't able to afford this at the time, then you were probably working in a job that people thought women would be better at like sewing. Have you really never seen the pictures of the women working at sewing factories or something like this?

The version of the stay at home mother you are describing never existed until technology helped create a middle class and a household that could be managed by one person during the day. The boomer generation is the only generation that lived the way you are describing. No one else throughout history ever lived this way.
That’s sure a lot of women wanting to vote..is that 6 of them? Where are the rest do ya think..and was that just a photo op.

I think any one of us can find an example of women either wanting to vote or not..we aren’t living in those times and women have the right to vote now. My point was that women shouldn’t have been given the right to vote because they didn’t need it...women shouldn’t go into the man’s world like that. If you want to have your say, say it to your husband who then votes for the both of you. I don’t see where that’s wrong or bad.
Or, if you want influence your kids to have your values..

Did I say the world was perfect? Nope! But I have been talking about God’s ideal, which I don’t think God ever said we don’t need to do it that way anymore. And I also believe that God will give you what you need to live out His ideal..and why wouldn’t He..if you ask Him that is or even if you obey Him. I’m not talking about something I don’t know about here. God has helped me and He has brought His ideal into my life and provided for us to have it.

I can’t speak to throughout history..except in the OT..don’t ya think that the Israelites lived like that?
 






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Did I say the world was perfect? Nope! But I have been talking about God’s ideal, which I don’t think God ever said we don’t need to do it that way anymore.
There was no ideal pre-curse. So you are either making up a pre-curse ideal out of thin air or you are suggesting that we still according to the curse as subservient to our husbands.
 






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Hey Lisa..

If you don’t want the right to vote or work guess what? No one is forcing you to do either. Sit home on your arse doing nothing and spend your time wasting away arguing with people trying to convince them to dial the clock back a couple hundred years so you can feel better about your pathetic excuse of a life. You have the right to do so. Thanks to feminists who fought for your right to have an opinion separate and independant of your husbands.

But please never comment on politics or socio economics again. It’s not your little lady place to do so.

Sincerely,

Women and poor people everywhere
 






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