No regard...for the desire of women

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Right that’s because he married a wealthy woman and was poor..he wasn’t going to be under the thumb of his next wives, they were under his.

So, still nothing to post that that imam is wrong..just keep coming up with something, anything to get the discussion off the fact that islam does actually teach what that imam says. So does qualify that islam is an antichrist religion as islam doesn’t care about the desires of women. Being emotionally or physically abused is not a desire of women.
I know you're slow but try to keep up. Show me what Islamic scripture the imam used in regards to his THOUGHTS about women?

"Research shows that the men most likely to abuse their wives are evangelical Christians who attend church sporadically*. Church leaders in Australia say they abhor abuse of any kind. But advocates say the church is not just failing to sufficiently address domestic violence, it is both enabling and concealing it."

Why are you ignoring this? Do you know someone in your life guilty of this?
 






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An academic peer reviewed article on women in Islam owning property, businesses, and etc.

Also, Lisa, the prophet wasn't poor. He belonged to one of the strongest tribes. That kind of throws your theory out the window. This is the problem. You don't know anything about Islam except from the hate websites you receive your information.

I really do feel sorry for you. I know you've seen a lot of shrinks but perhaps all you need to do is convert Islam? You won't have to be bitter and lonely again.
 






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An academic peer reviewed article on women in Islam owning property, businesses, and etc.

Also, Lisa, the prophet wasn't poor. He belonged to one of the strongest tribes. That kind of throws your theory out the window. This is the problem. You don't know anything about Islam except from the hate websites you receive your information.

I really do feel sorry for you. I know you've seen a lot of shrinks but perhaps all you need to do is convert Islam? You won't have to be bitter and lonely again.
What it’s really like to know though.. is that imam wrong in what he says? I don’t have to show you anything.. was he wrong?
 






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What it’s really like to know though.. is that imam wrong in what he says? I don’t have to show you anything.. was he wrong?
Of course, he's wrong.

So your husband cheats on you and you stay now what if he beat you would you continue to stay, because remember your Bible says you have to be obedient to your husband?

I think you love the concept of marriage within Islam, which is why you bring it up so often, because you know your marriage has been a failure. That's probably what your psychologist said, right? In Islam you have just many rights over your husband if not more. Why not become a Muslim, Lisa?
 






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Of course, he's wrong.

So your husband cheats on you and you stay now what if he beat you would you continue to stay, because remember your Bible says you have to be obedient to your husband?

I think you love the concept of marriage within Islam, which is why you bring it up so often, because you know your marriage has been a failure. That's probably what your psychologist said, right? In Islam you have just many rights over your husband if not more. Why not become a Muslim, Lisa?
So muslim men don’t really beat their wives or emotionally abuse them?

I don’t do hypotheticals. My husband cheated on me once a long time ago...God has dealt with that between us and he’s a changed man from what he used to be...which is what counts here.

How is my marriage a failure? My husband is a changed man and our marriage is better than its ever been?

In islam, I would have the right to wear a tent and get beat and emotionally abused by my husband and its my fault...I don’t see the allure honestly. That and I’d be worshipping a false god...no thanks.
 






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So muslim men don’t really beat their wives or emotionally abuse them?

I don’t do hypotheticals. My husband cheated on me once a long time ago...God has dealt with that between us and he’s a changed man from what he used to be...which is what counts here.

How is my marriage a failure? My husband is a changed man and our marriage is better than its ever been?

In islam, I would have the right to wear a tent and get beat and emotionally abused by my husband and its my fault...I don’t see the allure honestly. That and I’d be worshipping a false god...no thanks.
I'm sure there are some Muslims who beat their wives just like there are some Christians who beat their wives and just like there are some atheists who beat their wives.

Once a cheater always a cheater. Sorry I had to say it. It's not a dig at you. That's just what I believe.

In Islam you could wear what you want. In Islam you have the right to divorce him if he touches. Too bad the same can't be said about your faith because you're a slave to your husband. It's quite sad actually. You worship a human lol.
 






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I'm sure there are some Muslims who beat their wives just like there are some Christians who beat their wives and just like there are some atheists who beat their wives.

Once a cheater always a cheater. Sorry I had to say it. It's not a dig at you. That's just what I believe.

In Islam you could wear what you want. In Islam you have the right to divorce him if he touches. Too bad the same can't be said about your faith because you're a slave to your husband. It's quite sad actually. You worship a human lol.
Ah..that could be..but I think islam really teaches that you can beat your wife.

You can believe that...however, God can change a person’s heart..so there is always hope with God.

What human do I worship?
Yep, you probably can wear what you want under the tent...
 






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Ah..that could be..but I think islam really teaches that you can beat your wife.

You can believe that...however, God can change a person’s heart..so there is always hope with God.

What human do I worship?
Yep, you probably can wear what you want under the tent...
Yet the research shows that evangelicals lead the way in wife beating :) Not surprising since your husband is your master.

That's just wishful thinking on your part.

You worship a Roman man god.

Yet you haven't been able to provide scripture for it. If you weren't supporting baby killings and sex slaves you would see that Arabs wore, as you say, tents long before Islam even came into the picture.
 






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The entire context of this verse references other Kings as well that battle this one. This does not seem to be the AntiChrist.

I am rather anti feminist due to the fact its essentially female supremacy at this point and has been for a while. The current society we have now is not the standard that the Old Testament + Gospels had on gender relations, its in favor much more towards women. Women's sexual (carnal) nature is naturally barbaric and degenerate, and it encourages this heavily. The Bible is not nearly as sexist as the Quran though.


Also, men and women both naturally favor women more, this is the Women are Wonderful Effect
 






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The entire context of this verse references other Kings as well that battle this one. This does not seem to be the AntiChrist.

I am rather anti feminist due to the fact its essentially female supremacy at this point and has been for a while. The current society we have now is not the standard that the Old Testament + Gospels had on gender relations, its in favor much more towards women. Women's sexual (carnal) nature is naturally barbaric and degenerate, and it encourages this heavily. The Bible is not nearly as sexist as the Quran though.


Also, men and women both naturally favor women more, this is the Women are Wonderful Effect
Sure..but feminism is also anti woman. It seeks to equate her with man...she is just as good as man and to prove it she can do anything a man can do. Which honestly, that’s true to a point...only woman has attributes only related to her...being a wife, a mother and making a home. Those things went by the wayside when feminism took hold.

Part of me understands why that happened..and part of me mourns it happening. Now children grow up with strangers and that’s normal..i.e. daycare. The battle of the sexes where men and women have something to prove to one another. The men vying for jobs with women making it harder for them to do their job..be the provider is really tough on families.

Then if women are just like men..able to provide..why stay with him when things get tough? They can raise their kids by themselves..another lie since children need the man as well as themselves. Which messes up generations of people and has a bad affect on marriages and families. They can do their job he can provide day at costs since the kids are already going to daycare and you break up the family and the parents live poorer and the kids suffer as they go from house to house and new mom and dad...step parents. All for what to prove something women never had to prove in the first place? They had a role in life and theirs was a most important role..the helper of their husband, the raider of children and the keeper of the family.
 






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The desire for women to have a baby..but we are gonna keep with the idea that they can do it alone? And this is particularly gross..

New show Labour of Love sees 15 men compete to impregnate 41-year-old woman
 






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Sure..but feminism is also anti woman. It seeks to equate her with man...she is just as good as man and to prove it she can do anything a man can do. Which honestly, that’s true to a point...only woman has attributes only related to her...being a wife, a mother and making a home. Those things went by the wayside when feminism took hold.

Part of me understands why that happened..and part of me mourns it happening. Now children grow up with strangers and that’s normal..i.e. daycare. The battle of the sexes where men and women have something to prove to one another. The men vying for jobs with women making it harder for them to do their job..be the provider is really tough on families.

Then if women are just like men..able to provide..why stay with him when things get tough? They can raise their kids by themselves..another lie since children need the man as well as themselves. Which messes up generations of people and has a bad affect on marriages and families. They can do their job he can provide day at costs since the kids are already going to daycare and you break up the family and the parents live poorer and the kids suffer as they go from house to house and new mom and dad...step parents. All for what to prove something women never had to prove in the first place? They had a role in life and theirs was a most important role..the helper of their husband, the raider of children and the keeper of the family.
Thank god for feminism.

women are no longer forced to stay with men who cheat on them or destroy the families finances by smoking meth and/or get the shit kicked out of them to keep a roof over the heads of themselves and their children. Thank fucking god.
 






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Thank god for feminism.

women are no longer forced to stay with men who cheat on them or destroy the families finances by smoking meth and/or get the shit kicked out of them to keep a roof over the heads of themselves and their children. Thank fucking god.
No, God is the one who could help with all that...He could heal the family and turn it around to the way He said is good.
 






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No, God is the one who could help with all that...He could heal the family and turn it around to the way He said is good.
Tell that to all the battered wives and children and those who saw their whole lives go down the tubes because of drugs.

but you know that already... you rant about drug users all the time. Now women should just stay and deal with that? Nope. Like I said, thank god for feminism so that women aren’t stuck in those situations anymore if they don’t want to be. Thank GOD.
 






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Tell that to all the battered wives and children and those who saw their whole lives go down the tubes because of drugs.

but you know that already... you rant about drug users all the time. Now women should just stay and deal with that? Nope. Like I said, thank god for feminism so that women aren’t stuck in those situations anymore if they don’t want to be. Thank GOD.
Now you respect God? It isn’t His way..His way is reconciliation and prayer is pretty powerful..but that’s because God is powerful...He is awesome!
 






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Now you respect God? It isn’t His way..His way is reconciliation and prayer is pretty powerful..but that’s because God is powerful...He is awesome!
I’ve always respected god. I’ve never respected you or how you twist god to your evil purposes.

god wouldn’t want one of his children to be forced to stay someplace where they get their ass kicked on a regular basis by a drug abusing maniac - thank GOD that feminism came along and this is no longer necessary.
 






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I’ve always respected god. I’ve never respected you or how you twist god to your evil purposes.

god wouldn’t want one of his children to be forced to stay someplace where they get their ass kicked on a regular basis by a drug abusing maniac - thank GOD that feminism came along and this is no longer necessary.
Feminism came along and with their lack of faith in God to heal ..went their own way and decided that they could fix things..only their fix didn‘t fix anything but made relationships worse and families suffered because of this idea that woman needed to be their own person and that includes doing the man’s job.
 






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Feminism came along and with their lack of faith in God to heal ..went their own way and decided that they could fix things..only their fix didn‘t fix anything but made relationships worse and families suffered because of this idea that woman needed to be their own person and that includes doing the man’s job.
If things were so great prior to feminism the feminist movement would have never happened. End of/
 






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The feminist movement was funded by Rockefeller.
And carried by women who were tired of getting their asses kicked and being cheated on. Blame your own gender. Had you treated the power you were given with respect and honor women would have never sought anything else.
 






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