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These are just some of the notes I have been taking while I have been trying to research the evidence to support the location we are calling Israel considering there is no evidence this location was ever known as Israel throughout history.
Ok let us know when you find it so we can move there.


Finally, I believe continuing this investigation will further prove that what we call the state of Israel is what the prophecy refers to as mystery Babylon and it will eventually fall because it has been built on multiple layers of deception that have increased to the point of creating apostacy from the message of Christ.
Everybody loves a good mystery so wish you good luck in continuing this investigation. Good job. Israel is proud of you.
 





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Hosea 3:3-5 could not be more plain:-

3 And I said to her, “You shall stay with me many days; you shall not play the harlot, nor shall you have a man—so, too, will I be toward you.”
4 For the children of Israel shall abide many days without king or prince, without sacrifice or sacred pillar, without ephod or teraphim.
5 Afterward the children of Israel shall return and seek the Lord their God and David their king. They shall fear the Lord and His goodness in the latter days.
 





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To throw a monkey wrench in the mystery Babylon discussion, I've heard that some think America is mystery Babylon. I'm not sure I believe it, but Dana Ashlie and Eddie Chumley have convincing arguments. They're not the only ones, certainly.


Carry on with the original discussion. Babylon may just be the coming the NWO or the world system.
 





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To throw a monkey wrench in the mystery Babylon discussion, I've heard that some think America is mystery Babylon. I'm not sure I believe it, but Dana Ashlie and Eddie Chumley have convincing arguments. They're not the only ones, certainly.


Carry on with the original discussion. Babylon may just be the coming the NWO or the world system.
The ten horns or kings without kingdoms of the first beast will attack Babylon before three of the horns or kings are uprooted by the little horn. America certainly fits much of the descriptives about Babylon in the Bible. And many have wondered why such a superpower as America is not found in the Scriptures when Russia the bear is there and Britain the lion and Germany the leopard and China the dragon.

Well it could be because America is Babylon.
 





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To throw a monkey wrench in the mystery Babylon discussion, I've heard that some think America is mystery Babylon. I'm not sure I believe it, but Dana Ashlie and Eddie Chumley have convincing arguments. They're not the only ones, certainly.


Carry on with the original discussion. Babylon may just be the coming the NWO or the world system.
I don't know what has been discussed already in this thread because there's a lot of shit posters on here to barely have the ability to join the dots.

1) The whore sits on the beast. The beast obviously isnt the whore. So who's the beast? easy...Daniel 2 it was the legs of iron that later become the 'feet of iron and clay'. Think of european colonialism as the revival of rome..they were all former roman colonies were they not? so think of all that those nations conquered. That was the Rev 6 WHITE Horse prophecy coming true. what happened as a consequence of colonialism? 2 worlds wars, that was the RED horse prophecy coming true. What was the 3rd horse in the prophecy? the black one


When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a black horse!Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. 6 Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, “Two pounds[a] of wheat for a day’s wages,[b] and six pounds[c] of barley for a day’s wages,[d] and do not damage the oil and the wine!”

This is the post ww2 era...the rise of America, capitalism...and all of that occuring with the establishment of the state of Israel. The 'oil and wine' represents the israelites/jews, doesnt it?
of course, to grasp this one needs to have the most basic ability to join the dots. It is not right that someone should have to explain why the jews represent oil and wine...it should be already known to anyone remotely familiar with biblical themes.

Good, but what else occured through the above?
post ww1, we saw the league of nations established. ww2 showed how much the league of nations failed. So then they formed the united nations.
since then, the gradual process has been moving towards creating a globalised world..and we're moving into the 4th horseman prophecy.


What the above is mostly about is understanding what the BEAST system is. However remember, the whore sits on the beast..and the whore only takes the beast to it's destination, and then the beast devours it. So we know the beast hates the prostitute but it is still controlled by the prostitute, for now.
Since the formation of the united nations, which group of people have given it power? answer, the jews. Yet we also see how the UN is constantly in contention with israel these days.

However this isnt enough to convince a lot of the folk on here because they are purposely acting blind and deaf to the truth.
So here's more

in Habakkuk 2, we learn a little bit about actual Babylon. it was ruled by a group called the Chaldeans (Abraham himself was a chaldean) so it's fair to say..the israelites and ishmaelites are also chaldean in origin). The chaldeans used deception to gain power over nations. They were money lenders too. although in this prophecy it suggests their creditors would rise up against them. That means the wealth was not theirs to beginw ith, they were given wealth and allowed to practice usury but they had to be the lions share of that to the real creditors.
So in otherwords the chaldeans who ruled babylon only posessed the illusion of power, but were basically running shit for other people.
In this chapter there are some themes of Stone and wood too.
Basically stone/wood=idolatory, but also symbolic of theft of homes and land (through war and usury).

Now take that aside..and read Zechariah 5. The themes of stones/wood and usury are crystal clear here. The 'curse' mentioned, is through usury.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=zechariah+5&version=NIV
‘I will send it out, and it will enter the house of the thief and the house of anyone who swears falsely by my name. It will remain in that house and destroy it completely, both its timbers and its stones.’”

the thief is the money lender and the one who swears falsely is the one who takes the loan but cannot repay it.

In this chapter, who is this?
He replied, “It is a basket.” And he added, “This is the iniquity[b] of the people throughout the land.”
7 Then the cover of lead was raised, and there in the basket sat a woman! 8 He said, “This is wickedness,” and he pushed her back into the basket and pushed its lead cover down on it.


The WOMAN is wickedness of the jewish people.

10 “Where are they taking the basket?” I asked the angel who was speaking to me.
11 He replied, “
To the country of Babyloniao build a house for it. When the house is ready, the basket will be set there in its place.”


hence, 'the whore of babylon'

To gain further insight on this, you can read Jeremiah 1-3 where you will once again see the themes of spiritual adultery, idolatory...and stones/trees mentioned throughout.

To be a christian..and to know the above arguments and still turn away from the truth, is one of the perfect examples of why i take the piss out of most christians and call them 'faux christians' because they are fake...they do not know even tghe most basic truth. They piss all over the bible, which is full of meaning..but misinterpret it to suit their personal ego.

The whore is the wickedness of the jewish nation.
When you read the Whore of Babylon prophecies in Revelation. We're told the death of prophets and saints is in her hands. Isnt that exactly what Jesus said about 'Jerusalem'?

As the Rev 6 black horse prophecy says, 'do not harm the oil and wine'....this is that period where this nation controls shit.
look at the bolshevik revolution, an 'athiestic' idea made by a jewish man, karl marx...and the bolsheviks were jews who absolutely devastated the soviet union, stole the wealth of the christian orthodox church and slaughtered over 20m christians...
the resources/wealth of those lands, went into the hands of jewish oligarchs in the 90s....you know after the 'collapse' of the soviet union.
This is the fucking truth of the matter..and on the otherside whether it is google, or microsoft or many other things..they are jew owned.

Revelation 17/18 tell us exactly that, that the leading merchants of the world would belong to 'her'.
it says the world would be intoxicated by the wine of her adulteries

so you know, you look at all te things our generations have experienced
music, tv, movies, sexual imagery everywhere, news....
it is all jew run.
these are just facts man. even if it is usually out of america..it is the jews who own most of it...
of course the big one is money..
Rothschild's own israel, where is their wealth from?

@TokiEl
look man, i think by now deep down you know it is only your ego doing you harm

Ezekiel 38 says a land with no walls and weapons
modern israel has walls and it has weapons...
God says "not by MIGHT NOR POWER but BY MY SPIRIT"

homosexuality does indeed exist all over the world. However, Jerusalem is the holy city isnt it? since you believe that the jews returned to the holy land, to fulfill the messianic promise and all by God's grace etc..
yet, gay pride in Jerusalem of all places?

if ever you wonder why i refer to people like you as 'faux christians' this is it. You cannot see beyond your pride aswell as hatred for islam.

messianic era is after the war at the euphrates, the abaddon prophecy, the beast system, the anti-christ etc.
the only thing we know is that when the anti-christ comes to jerusalem, it is 'sodom and egypt' at that time..
and as ive pointed out that perfectly fits with Jerusalem having luciferian symbols all over it now and gay pride day.
 





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The ten horns or kings without kingdoms of the first beast will attack Babylon before three of the horns or kings are uprooted by the little horn. America certainly fits much of the descriptives about Babylon in the Bible. And many have wondered why such a superpower as America is not found in the Scriptures when Russia the bear is there and Britain the lion and Germany the leopard and China the dragon.

Well it could be because America is Babylon.
Yeh, already done

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_of_the_Four_Emperors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titus

and that was Daniel 7 prophecy.
you're mixing it with Revelation prophecy
the beast in Daniel 7 (the roman empire/legs of iron in Daniel 2) is not the same as the future beast system (The feet of iron/clay in Daniel 2)

wise up man.
 





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Yeh, already done

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_of_the_Four_Emperors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titus

and that was Daniel 7 prophecy.
you're mixing it with Revelation prophecy
the beast in Daniel 7 (the roman empire/legs of iron in Daniel 2) is not the same as the future beast system (The feet of iron/clay in Daniel 2)

wise up man.
I think we have talked before about prophecy, @AspiringSoul

It appears you still regard Bible prophecy as a tick list i.e. If it can be shown to be fulfilled once it is therefore completed and not to be repeated. Christian preterists take a similar approach.

Of course, if you want to make room for Muhammad within Bible prophecy, this would be the way to achieve some kind of synergy.

As I and many others have noticed while studying Bible prophecy, there is a concept of prophecy as pattern, with multiple fulfillments possible. Recently the whole book of Nahum seems to have repeated again even down to the location and outcome with Mosul (ancient Ninevah).

More examples and commentary here:-

https://www.prophecyproof.org/multiple-fulfillments-in-bible-prophecy/
 





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https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=zechariah+5&version=NIV
‘I will send it out, and it will enter the house of the thief and the house of anyone who swears falsely by my name. It will remain in that house and destroy it completely, both its timbers and its stones.’”

the thief is the money lender and the one who swears falsely is the one who takes the loan but cannot repay it.

In this chapter, who is this?
He replied, “It is a basket.” And he added, “This is the iniquity[b] of the people throughout the land.”
7 Then the cover of lead was raised, and there in the basket sat a woman! 8 He said, “This is wickedness,” and he pushed her back into the basket and pushed its lead cover down on it.


The WOMAN is wickedness of the jewish people.
You sound like a neo nazi. And why do you keep babbling about a woman in a basket when the angel is actually describing the fire in the radioactive metal of a nuclear warhead which will be placed in a missile silo in Babylon ?

Can America be Babylon ? Absolutely !
 





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Yeh, already done

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_of_the_Four_Emperors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titus

and that was Daniel 7 prophecy.
you're mixing it with Revelation prophecy
the beast in Daniel 7 (the roman empire/legs of iron in Daniel 2) is not the same as the future beast system (The feet of iron/clay in Daniel 2)

wise up man.
God says your idol is an impostor so what does that make you ?

It is not already done but will be in the last 3.5 years of this age also known as the great tribulation before Jesus Christ returns.
 





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You sound like a neo nazi. And why do you keep babbling about a woman in a basket when the angel is actually describing the fire in the radioactive metal of a nuclear warhead which will be placed in a missile silo in Babylon ?

Can America be Babylon ? Absolutely !
lmfao
yeh call me a nazi, when you have nothing else to say.


God says your idol is an impostor so what does that make you ?

It is not already done but will be in the last 3.5 years of this age also known as the great tribulation before Jesus Christ returns.
no He doesn't..don't lie or attempt to change the topic since we were talking about contexts that have nothing to with muslims. Jeremiah 2-3 is not about muslims but the jews.
and no, it doesn't, stop making shit up. The Daniel 7 prophecies were about the roman empire, the 10 emperors were began with Julius Ceasar to Vespasian, whilst Titus was the little horn as he was not an emperor att he time
these emperors, they ruled over the TEMPLE

you are out of your league mate, but then you are a faux christian and like most, you follow a pagan church doctrine that has nothing to do with the Bible..nor have you been taught the truth within the bible and so you're totally lost just making it up as you go along
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And why do you keep babbling about a woman in a basket when the angel is actually describing the fire in the radioactive metal of a nuclear warhead which will be placed in a missile silo in Babylon ?

Zechariah 5
He replied, “It is a basket.” And he added, “This is the iniquity[b] of the people throughout the land.”


in the context 'the land' refers to the holy land.
the iniquity of the people is not a nuke...


i feel sorry for genuine christians who are closer to the truth, but their voice gets lost in never ending ocean of dumb fucks like yourself.
 





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I think we have talked before about prophecy, @AspiringSoul

It appears you still regard Bible prophecy as a tick list i.e. If it can be shown to be fulfilled once it is therefore completed and not to be repeated. Christian preterists take a similar approach.

Of course, if you want to make room for Muhammad within Bible prophecy, this would be the way to achieve some kind of synergy.

As I and many others have noticed while studying Bible prophecy, there is a concept of prophecy as pattern, with multiple fulfillments possible. Recently the whole book of Nahum seems to have repeated again even down to the location and outcome with Mosul (ancient Ninevah).

More examples and commentary here:-

https://www.prophecyproof.org/multiple-fulfillments-in-bible-prophecy/

Please stop making assumptions. I am an open minded person, however some prophecies are done and won't be repeated again. Contexts to old testament prophecies like Nahum also matter. For example there is the prophecy against Damascus
and christians regularly celebrate out of their arse, the idea that damascus will be destroyed in a modern context..
and why do they celebrate? because in their mind they see the death of muslims and a 'muslim city'. There is no point denying that fact, that christians celebrate the idea of a city like damascus being nuked out of existence.
The reality was that prophecy concerned the assyrian empire. It's one of those topics that requires a person to sit down and do some basic research through google and learn about the places/people and time the prophecy was relevant too. Not just quote it because it seems to fit in modern times. you also have no business assuming just because it seems to fit, it is 'dual layered'.

for example, what if we produced a fake messiah today, crucified him and just started quoting zechariah and saying 'dual layered'
it's just stupidity where christians try to force events (right wing christian fundamentalists in the american government funding the war efforts).

I have to examine why christians like to misinterpret Daniel's prophecies..
it's entirely because of Matthew 24
Since it appears to suggest Jesus would return as soon as the tribulation is over..and the tribulation is in Daniel 7.

The thing is if you read that one closely, you'll notice Jesus also said no one of his generation will pass away till it's all fulfilled.
Yet, they all died didnt they? so rather than start shoehorning prophecy to match modern times, you should try to understand what Jesus really meant about 'passing away'.
This connects to Daniel 12
eg
13 “As for you, go your way till the end. You will rest, and then at the end of the days you will rise to receive your allotted inheritance.”
Jesus was telling the people that no one will experience 'death' (in the spiritual sense)...
it is funny, talking about these topics to people who barely grasp their meaning...no offense, but when i talk about this stuff it goes through you. these are topics that are easy to understand in islam because we have a lot of material related to barzakh (hades/sheol) and the idea of being alive in barzakh...ie that a person who is saved, doesnt experience death in the true sense...only leaving the world.
'at rest'



As for Mohammad in the bible
let me retrace my steps a little and put things into context

me: Surah 17 suggests the holy land is for the jews
tokiel: you sound like a neo nazi (because i said modern israel is not messianic/godly)

see my point here is, i can say something deep and yet still there's one arsehole overlooking it.
similarly, i have said maaaaany things about the topic of Mohammad in the bible, in fact i have talked of dual layers, shadow themes and so forth.
i have spent hours talking about such things, so i do not deserve to have that looked over just for some cheap point in a post by you.

let me explain something
BELIEF and law of attraction, manifestation etc are real. However God's Word and divine destiny are greater truths..so what happens when they clash? what happens if people wish for a thing, but to God they are undeserving?

The jews, rejected the message of Jesus entirely.
their BELIEF led them to establish a new jewish state in jerusalem, to kill christians and await the coming of their own idealised davidic messiah.
so here, the law of attraction is at work, what will they manifest?
they manifested someone, but it wasnt what they wanted, it was an arab prophet...and out of that context..jerusalem was won, christians did lose jerusalem and so forth..but it was via that arab prophet and his religion.
So how do you suppose this stuff plays out in the modern world where everyone is sinful and disobedient and yet 'believers'?
it creates a whole world of shadow manifestations

yet even this is part of God's design aswell as being a test.
if you read the Torah, God's promise of punishment for disobedience tells us, what they plant..they will now eat. their enemies will eat.

so how would a shadow or pseudo-fulfillment of daniel's prophecies work in the modern era in light of God's promise of punishment (if it's applied to all of us)?

eg
despite knowing God's Word has made it clear the true messianic kingdom will be 'without walls and weapons'
you now have an actual state that's protected entirely by it's Walls and it's weapons

you have literally collectively manifested that shit.
as a muslim i find it all amusing.

So here's another one
you collectively believe, deep down, that a mooselimb tyrant type of figure will be the 'little horn' and that he will set up the abomination of desolation and bring about the tribulation in 3.5 days which you also interpret as yrs, leading upto the coming of Jesus.

a shadow fulfillment of this belief..means it will happen albeit with different result, just like it was with the jews.
so before Jesus does return, you will bring about a false messiah from a situation like that playing out.

nowhere in the bible do prophecies apply twice, except when we are told so directly
for example, mystery babylon playing out aspects of ancient babylon.
or the feet of iron/clay as the end times Beast, having similar concepts to legs of iron/roman empire.
 





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To throw a monkey wrench in the mystery Babylon discussion, I've heard that some think America is mystery Babylon. I'm not sure I believe it, but Dana Ashlie and Eddie Chumley have convincing arguments. They're not the only ones, certainly.


Carry on with the original discussion. Babylon may just be the coming the NWO or the world system.
Just musing...

Ezekiel 17 New King James Version (NKJV)
The Eagles and the Vine
17 And the word of the Lord came to me, saying, 2 “Son of man, pose a riddle, and speak a parable to the house of Israel, 3 and say, ‘Thus says the Lord God:

“A great eagle with large wings and long pinions,
Full of feathers of various colors,
Came to Lebanon
And took from the cedar the highest branch.
4 He cropped off its topmost young twig
And carried it to a land of trade;
He set it in a city of merchants.
5 Then he took some of the seed of the land
And planted it in a fertile field;
He placed it by abundant waters
And set it like a willow tree.
6 And it grew and became a spreading vine of low stature;
Its branches turned toward him,
But its roots were under it.
So it became a vine,
Brought forth branches,
And put forth shoots.

7 “But there was [a]another great eagle with large wings and many feathers;
And behold, this vine bent its roots toward him,
And stretched its branches toward him,
From the garden terrace where it had been planted,
That he might water it.
8 It was planted in [b]good soil by many waters,
To bring forth branches, bear fruit,
And become a majestic vine.” ’

9 “Say, ‘Thus says the Lord God:

“Will it thrive?
Will he not pull up its roots,
Cut off its fruit,
And leave it to wither?
All of its spring leaves will wither,
And no great power or many people
Will be needed to pluck it up by its roots.
10 Behold, it is planted,
Will it thrive?
Will it not utterly wither when the east wind touches it?
It will wither in the garden terrace where it grew.” ’ ”
 





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If America is mystery Babylon than this would mean that the entire Protestant movement has been a complete and utter failure, and every single one of you who profess to identify with this movement should be thinking about becoming an Orthodox Christian so that you may obey the command to "come out of her my people" (Revelation 18:4).

On the other hand, considering that the Protestant movement is a primary supporter of Zionism, it is possible that this is something people should be thinking about doing.
 





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The Daniel 7 prophecies were about the roman empire, the 10 emperors were began with Julius Ceasar to Vespasian, whilst Titus was the little horn as he was not an emperor att he time
these emperors, they ruled over the TEMPLE
The ten horns or kings will reign in the great tribulation at the end of the age.


eg
And why do you keep babbling about a woman in a basket when the angel is actually describing the fire in the radioactive metal of a nuclear warhead which will be placed in a missile silo in Babylon ?

Zechariah 5
He replied, “It is a basket.” And he added, “This is the iniquity[b] of the people throughout the land.”
It doesn't say that.

The original text is saying... "This is their resemblance/aspect in/through(out) all the land/earth."

An angel is showing and describing a nuclear warhead to Zechariah and tells him this is how they all look and function. And the size of the warhead is an ephah which is an ancient measurement.

There is no talk about a woman in a basket but if you want to believe that fine with me.
 





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If America is mystery Babylon than this would mean that the entire Protestant movement has been a complete and utter failure, and every single one of you who profess to identify with this movement should be thinking about becoming an Orthodox Christian so that you may obey the command to "come out of her my people" (Revelation 18:4).
American christianity is a dead man walking.


However, considering that the Protestant movement is a primary supporter of Zionism, it is possible that this is something people should be thinking about doing.
When America is attacked that will wake up the sleeper Jews and make them turn to God in repentance. And Christians as well of course... give them a chance to truly repent.
 





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If America is mystery Babylon than this would mean that the entire Protestant movement has been a complete and utter failure, and every single one of you who profess to identify with this movement should be thinking about becoming an Orthodox Christian so that you may obey the command to "come out of her my people" (Revelation 18:4).

On the other hand, considering that the Protestant movement is a primary supporter of Zionism, it is possible that this is something people should be thinking about doing.
America as a nation is distinct from the Christians living in it. In many ways, looking from the outside, it is a country of opposites. You have followers of Christ, and seekers after "Christ Consciousness", those who give to the poor of the earth, and many more that take from them. I'm not sure if you subscribe to the view that the Church will be "raptured" before the Tribulation, but I suspect if that were to be the case, the balance of power and character of the US would shift dramatically, leaving particular voices the only ones shouting. That is the America that may be the one destined for judgement, especially if the pattern of the "days of Lot" were to be repeated.
 





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America as a nation is distinct from the Christians living in it. In many ways, looking from the outside, it is a country of opposites. You have followers of Christ, and seekers after "Christ Consciousness", those who give to the poor of the earth, and many more that take from them. I'm not sure if you subscribe to the view that the Church will be "raptured" before the Tribulation, but I suspect if that were to be the case, the balance of power and character of the US would shift dramatically, leaving particular voices the only ones shouting. That is the America that may be the one destined for judgement, especially if the pattern of the "days of Lot" were to be repeated.
See your perspective depends on your belief in the rapture because otherwise it would represent a judgement towards Protestantism.

So clearly I don’t subscribe to the rapture theory because otherwise I would not have made the connection that I did.
 





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See your perspective depends on your belief in the rapture because otherwise it would represent a judgement towards Protestantism.

So clearly I don’t subscribe to the rapture theory because otherwise I would not have made the connection that I did.
At least that helps me understand your point of view better @rainerann ...

Whatever view we take, I think we are nearly there. When we are, the conversations on this forum between those remaining on it (providing it is allowed to operate for a period) may be very interesting.
 





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The ten horns or kings will reign in the great tribulation at the end of the age.



It doesn't say that.

The original text is saying... "This is their resemblance/aspect in/through(out) all the land/earth."

An angel is showing and describing a nuclear warhead to Zechariah and tells him this is how they all look and function. And the size of the warhead is an ephah which is an ancient measurement.

There is no talk about a woman in a basket but if you want to believe that fine with me.
The ten horns or kings will reign in the great tribulation at the end of the age.

that's a different context to the prophecy in Daniel 7 which was about ancient roman empire and the 10 emperors of rome who ruled over the jewish nation/temple until Titus (the little horn) destroyed the temple. It matches right down to the 'year of 4 emperors' where it says one will uproot 3. However that era, was the 'legs of iron' in the Daniel 2 image.
The Revelation prophecies do have some similarities, but that's because this system will be the feet of iron and clay (again from Daniel 2), the 10 toes representing the 10 parts each under the control of a horn.

What im contending with is how you took the prophecy from Daniel 7 and applied it to future context when as i have explained they are 2 different, but connects systems. The legs of iron=roman empire at the time of Jesus/the second temple era. The feet of iron/clay, the future global system.


ok let's look at it
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Zechariah+5&version=NIV
5 I looked again, and there before me was a flying scroll.

2 He asked me, “What do you see?”

I answered, “I see a flying scroll, twenty cubits long and ten cubits wide.[a]”

3 And he said to me, “This is the curse that is going out over the whole land; for according to what it says on one side, every thief will be banished, and according to what it says on the other, everyone who swears falsely will be banished. 4 The Lord Almighty declares, ‘I will send it out, and it will enter the house of the thief and the house of anyone who swears falsely by my name. It will remain in that house and destroy it completely, both its timbers and its stones.’


you have written
"This is their resemblance/aspect in/through(out) all the land/earth."

now explain to me, how any of this, whichever translation is used...somehow means a nuclear weapon?

every thief will be banished, and according to what it says on the other, everyone who swears falsely will be banished. 4 The Lord Almighty declares, ‘I will send it out, and it will enter the house of the thief and the house of anyone who swears falsely by my name. It will remain in that house and destroy it completely, both its timbers and its stones.’

the theif and the one who swears falsely...aswell as the house with timber and stones, are concepts that relate to Babylon

Habakkuk 2
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=habakkuk+2&version=CJB
‘Woe to him who amasses other people’s wealth! —
how long must it go on? —
and to him who adds to himself the weight
of goods taken in pledge!
7 Won’t your own creditors suddenly stand,
won’t those who make you tremble wake up?
You will become their spoil.


For the very stones will cry out from the wall,
and a beam in the framework will answer them.

12 “‘Woe to him who builds a city with blood
and founds a town on injustice,


funny how this resembles modern israel too. Owned by house Rothschild, who's wealth is from USURY.
The chaldean rulers of Babylon, also ruled through the practice of USURY







Habakkuk 2 is about the punishment of BABYLON
and Zecheriah 5 is about the jews being taken to Babylon to effectively become the new version of babylon.

We are told that in Habakkuk 1
I am raising up the Kasdim (the Chaldeans)
that bitter and impetuous nation,
who march far and wide over the earth
to seize homes that are not their own.
7 Fearsome and dreadful they are;



The 'stones and wood' theme is very strong in both Zechariah 5 and Habakkuk 2

Habakkuk 2
18 What good is an idol, once its maker has shaped it,
a cast metal image and a teacher of lies,
that its maker puts his trust in it,
and goes on making non-gods, unable to talk?
19 Woe to him who tells a piece of wood, “Wake up!”
or a speechless stone, “Rouse yourself!”

Can this thing teach? Why, it’s covered with gold and silver,
without the slightest breath in it!
20 But Adonai is in his holy temple;
let all the earth be silent before him.



Jeremiah 2
Yet on every high hill, under every green tree,
you sprawled and prostituted yourself.


But when trouble comes, they will plead,
‘Rouse yourself and save us!’
28 Where are your gods that you made for yourselves?
Let them rouse themselves,
if they can save you when trouble comes.


Jeremiah 3
But you prostituted yourself to many lovers,
yet you want to return to me?” says Adonai.
2 “Raise your eyes to the bare hills, take a look:
where have you not had sex?
You sat by the roadsides waiting for them
like a nomad in the desert.
You have defiled the land
with your prostitution and wickedness.


9 The ease with which Isra’el prostituted herself defiled the land, as she committed adultery with stones and with logs.



So we see the clear connection from Jeremiah 2/3 of whoredom/idolatory and the link to the 'stones and trees'
what happened was the jews were taken to babylon and there they learnt new knowledge and their new 'god' became MONEY.
Hence Habakkuk 2, relates to the themes of usury and conquest..and Zechariah 5 foretells this 'curse' (of usury, the thief and the liar ie the money lender and the one who makes the false pledge).






i see that many of you faux christians are disinfo agents and you are clearly working for the devil, you are attempting to cover the magnificent truth revealed in God's Word, for your own peice of dog shit biased defence of israel and why? because you have so much hatred for islam you have sold your soul.

'no it's a nuke'
'no no israel has techmologiez and wallz but it is messianic'

it's nice that you acknowledged the truth that the jews once had a jewish homeland in the 7th century that failed, so why is it messianic this time round and not then? because this time the jews are your allies against islam