To throw a monkey wrench in the mystery Babylon discussion, I've heard that some think America is mystery Babylon. I'm not sure I believe it, but Dana Ashlie and Eddie Chumley have convincing arguments. They're not the only ones, certainly.
Carry on with the original discussion. Babylon may just be the coming the NWO or the world system.
I don't know what has been discussed already in this thread because there's a lot of shit posters on here to barely have the ability to join the dots.
1) The whore sits on the beast. The beast obviously isnt the whore. So who's the beast? easy...Daniel 2 it was the legs of iron that later become the 'feet of iron and clay'. Think of european colonialism as the revival of rome..they were all former roman colonies were they not? so think of all that those nations conquered. That was the Rev 6 WHITE Horse prophecy coming true. what happened as a consequence of colonialism? 2 worlds wars, that was the RED horse prophecy coming true. What was the 3rd horse in the prophecy? the black one
When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a black horse!Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. 6 Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, “Two pounds[a] of wheat for a day’s wages,[b] and six pounds[c] of barley for a day’s wages,[d] and do not damage the oil and the wine!”
This is the post ww2 era...the rise of America, capitalism...and all of that occuring with the establishment of the state of Israel. The 'oil and wine' represents the israelites/jews, doesnt it?
of course, to grasp this one needs to have the most basic ability to join the dots. It is not right that someone should have to explain why the jews represent oil and wine...it should be already known to anyone remotely familiar with biblical themes.
Good, but what else occured through the above?
post ww1, we saw the league of nations established. ww2 showed how much the league of nations failed. So then they formed the united nations.
since then, the gradual process has been moving towards creating a globalised world..and we're moving into the 4th horseman prophecy.
What the above is mostly about is understanding what the BEAST system is. However remember, the whore sits on the beast..and the whore only takes the beast to it's destination, and then the beast devours it. So we know the beast hates the prostitute but it is still controlled by the prostitute, for now.
Since the formation of the united nations, which group of people have given it power? answer, the jews. Yet we also see how the UN is constantly in contention with israel these days.
However this isnt enough to convince a lot of the folk on here because they are purposely acting blind and deaf to the truth.
So here's more
in Habakkuk 2, we learn a little bit about actual Babylon. it was ruled by a group called the Chaldeans (Abraham himself was a chaldean) so it's fair to say..the israelites and ishmaelites are also chaldean in origin). The chaldeans used deception to gain power over nations. They were money lenders too. although in this prophecy it suggests their creditors would rise up against them. That means the wealth was not theirs to beginw ith, they were given wealth and allowed to practice usury but they had to be the lions share of that to the real creditors.
So in otherwords the chaldeans who ruled babylon only posessed the illusion of power, but were basically running shit for other people.
In this chapter there are some themes of Stone and wood too.
Basically stone/wood=idolatory, but also symbolic of theft of homes and land (through war and usury).
Now take that aside..and read Zechariah 5. The themes of stones/wood and usury are crystal clear here. The 'curse' mentioned, is through usury.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=zechariah+5&version=NIV
‘I will send it out, and it will enter the house of the thief and the house of anyone who swears falsely by my name. It will remain in that house and destroy it completely, both its timbers and its stones.’”
the thief is the money lender and the one who swears falsely is the one who takes the loan but cannot repay it.
In this chapter, who is this?
He replied, “It is a basket.” And he added, “This is the iniquity[b] of the people throughout the land.”
7 Then the cover of lead was raised, and there in the basket sat a woman! 8 He said, “This is wickedness,” and he pushed her back into the basket and pushed its lead cover down on it.
The WOMAN is wickedness of the jewish people.
10 “Where are they taking the basket?” I asked the angel who was speaking to me.
11 He replied, “To the country of Babyloniao build a house for it. When the house is ready, the basket will be set there in its place.”
hence,
'the whore of babylon'
To gain further insight on this, you can read Jeremiah 1-3 where you will once again see the themes of spiritual adultery, idolatory...and stones/trees mentioned throughout.
To be a christian..and to know the above arguments and still turn away from the truth, is one of the perfect examples of why i take the piss out of most christians and call them 'faux christians' because they are fake...they do not know even tghe most basic truth. They piss all over the bible, which is full of meaning..but misinterpret it to suit their personal ego.
The whore is the wickedness of the jewish nation.
When you read the Whore of Babylon prophecies in Revelation. We're told the death of prophets and saints is in her hands. Isnt that exactly what Jesus said about 'Jerusalem'?
As the Rev 6 black horse prophecy says, 'do not harm the oil and wine'....this is that period where this nation controls shit.
look at the bolshevik revolution, an 'athiestic' idea made by a jewish man, karl marx...and the bolsheviks were jews who absolutely devastated the soviet union, stole the wealth of the christian orthodox church and slaughtered over 20m christians...
the resources/wealth of those lands, went into the hands of jewish oligarchs in the 90s....you know after the 'collapse' of the soviet union.
This is the fucking truth of the matter..and on the otherside whether it is google, or microsoft or many other things..they are jew owned.
Revelation 17/18 tell us exactly that, that the leading merchants of the world would belong to 'her'.
it says the world would be intoxicated by the wine of her adulteries
so you know, you look at all te things our generations have experienced
music, tv, movies, sexual imagery everywhere, news....
it is all jew run.
these are just facts man. even if it is usually out of america..it is the jews who own most of it...
of course the big one is money..
Rothschild's own israel, where is their wealth from?
@TokiEl
look man, i think by now deep down you know it is only your ego doing you harm
Ezekiel 38 says a land with no walls and weapons
modern israel has walls and it has weapons...
God says "not by MIGHT NOR POWER but BY MY SPIRIT"
homosexuality does indeed exist all over the world. However, Jerusalem is the holy city isnt it? since you believe that the jews returned to the holy land, to fulfill the messianic promise and all by God's grace etc..
yet, gay pride in Jerusalem of all places?
if ever you wonder why i refer to people like you as 'faux christians' this is it. You cannot see beyond your pride aswell as hatred for islam.
messianic era is after the war at the euphrates, the abaddon prophecy, the beast system, the anti-christ etc.
the only thing we know is that when the anti-christ comes to jerusalem, it is 'sodom and egypt' at that time..
and as ive pointed out that perfectly fits with Jerusalem having luciferian symbols all over it now and gay pride day.