Prophetic Expectations

[TokiEl]

Alright i will expound an absolute astounding prophecy from the Old Testament known as Daniel's 70 weeks.

This is a timeline until the Messiah as given by the angel Gabriel and written down by Daniel in about 539 BC.

“Know therefore and understand,
That from the going forth of the command
To restore and build Jerusalem
Until Messiah the Prince,
There shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks;
The street shall be built again, and the wall,
Even in troublesome times." - Daniel 9:25

See "seven weeks and sixty-two weeks" until the Messiah counting "from the going forth of the command
To restore and build Jerusalem". In the Book of Nehemiah it is reported that king Artaxerxes of Persia gave the command to rebuild Jerusalem.

"And it came to pass in the month of Nisan, in the twentieth year of King Artaxerxes,.....
Why should my face not be sad, when the city, the place of my fathers’ tombs, lies waste, and its gates are burned with fire?”
Then the king said to me, “What do you request?” So I prayed to the God of heaven. And I said to the king, “If it pleases the king, and if your servant has found favor in your sight, I ask that you send me to Judah, to the city of my fathers’ tombs, that I may rebuild it.” - Nehemiah 2


So "seven weeks and sixty-two weeks" until the Messiah counting from Nisan 444 BC.

What was translated as "weeks" is the Hebrew word "shabuwa" which means "sevenfold" and is in the Bible used both of seven days and seven years.

So "seven seven years and sixty-two seven years" until the Messiah from Nisan 444 BC.

Not solar years as the first time the word was used in the Bible was when Jacob laboured seven years for his uncle Laban about 4000 years ago in order to marry Rachel... but 360 weeks as in counting the Creation week 360 times which is approximately seven solar years.

So "7*360 + 62*360 = 24 840 weeks" until the Messiah counting from Nisan 444 BC.

Well that timeline is fulfilled on Nisan in 33 AD.


So about 500 years before Christ which is greek for Messiah was born... the angel Gabriel gave the exact timeline and Daniel wrote it down.

 

[TokiEl]

Furthermore the angelic timeline was 70 weeks... and so one last week is hanging suspended in the air and era of an unknown future... or is it ?

After almost 2000 years withouth a land of their own the Jews returned just as God foretold... and on 7 june 1967 during the Six-Day War they also restored control over the Old City of Jerusalem.

So according to the old 70 weeks prophecy given by Gabriel there ought to be countdown from that date.

“Know therefore and understand,
That from the going forth of the command
To restore and build Jerusalem
Until Messiah the Prince,
There shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks;
The street shall be built again, and the wall,
Even in troublesome times." - Daniel 9:25

“And after the sixty-two weeks
Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;
And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations are determined." - Daniel 9:26

See the Messiah was to come "seven weeks and sixty-two weeks from the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem" and at the same time "Messiah shall be cut off after sixty-two weeks."

This means that only "sixty-two weeks" were spent when the Messiah came and was cut off... there are still "seven weeks and one last week left."

We just have to wait until the Jews restore control over Jerusalem again... and lo and behold that happened on 7 June 1967.

So count "seven weeks" which is the same as "7*360 weeks" from 7 June 1967... which was fulfilled on 23 September 2015 on the Day of Atonement in a year of Jubilee.

If this is correct then we are already over 2 years into Daniel's 70th and last week.... can you feel it ?

 

[Karlysymon]

 

[Karlysymon]

I have considering CERN and this Mandela effect thing in connection with the verse about changing the times.

"And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time." (Daniel 7:25).

This could also refer to an attempt to change the Law in whatever shape or form. Because it is eternal, as God Himself, spoken and written by Himself at Sinai, any entity that takes it upon itself to make changes to the Law fits that description in Daniel.
The Catholic church conviniently jettisoned the 2nd commandment and split the 10th into two.

We are also taught (Protestantism) that it was nailed to or done away/abrogated by the cross.
How is this possible yet John saw it twice, in vision.

An attack on the eternal Law is an attack on God, Himself.

 

[DesertRose]

 

[Karlysymon]

@AspiringSoul

I've been lazy to post this but when i saw it, you are the first person that came to mind.

The Secret of All History is Found in The Book of Daniel

https://souloftheeast.org/2017/12/03/the-secret-of-all-history-is-found-in-the-book-of-daniel-jay-dyer/

 

[AspiringSoul]

@Karlysymon i posted this last night too
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/freedom-of-religion.2677/page-4#post-87187

as wonderful as it is studying the bible prophecies and how they are connected
it is even wonderful seeing how it all connects with islamic prophecies.

it sometimes feels great to have an understanding of all this material, but it is also very frustrating to know all of that and yet find misinformation from both sides.
Even on things that are largely irrelevant
for example in our Gog & Magog verses in the Quran, a person named Dhul Qarnain (two horned one) is mentioned
having read those verses, i made the connection to Cyrusa the great aka the 2 horned ram
i even noticed the scary similarity to those verses, in Isaiah 45
Yet it is soo frustrating to see muslims collectively pushing the idea that th 2 horned one, was alexander the great, so much so, historically muslims have even written poetry about Alexander the great and refer to him as the two horned one.
it might seem irrelevant but it bothers me.

like it's a burden on me to just tell people why they are 'wrong'....since no one likes being wrong or being told they are wrong...

 

[AspiringSoul]

"And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?"
(Rev 13:4)​

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meanwhile in England

 

[Karlysymon]

@Karlysymon i posted this last night too
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/freedom-of-religion.2677/page-4#post-87187

as wonderful as it is studying the bible prophecies and how they are connected
it is even wonderful seeing how it all connects with islamic prophecies.

it sometimes feels great to have an understanding of all this material, but it is also very frustrating to know all of that and yet find misinformation from both sides.
Even on things that are largely irrelevant
for example in our Gog & Magog verses in the Quran, a person named Dhul Qarnain (two horned one) is mentioned
having read those verses, i made the connection to Cyrusa the great aka the 2 horned ram
i even noticed the scary similarity to those verses, in Isaiah 45
Yet it is soo frustrating to see muslims collectively pushing the idea that th 2 horned one, was alexander the great, so much so, historically muslims have even written poetry about Alexander the great and refer to him as the two horned one.
it might seem irrelevant but it bothers me.

like it's a burden on me to just tell people why they are 'wrong'....since no one likes being wrong or being told they are wrong...

This is actually a "prophetic expectation"...Trump is now called the New Cyrus.

https://lancewallnau.clickfunnels.com/tom-delay-part-1-28962623

Sure, someone will or has already found a verse to buttress that title. Like Isaiah 45 is some cyclical prophecy. This is really funny.

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

Just an update for those with ears to hear...

 

[Helioform]

Thought those were interesting videos:

 

[Karlysymon]

The approved apparitions of Our Lady of Akita, Japan and the Third Secret...

“Bishop Ito [the local bishop, now deceased] was certain Akita was an extension of Fatima, and Cardinal
Ratzinger personally confirmed to me that these two messages, of Fatima and Akita, are essentially
the same.”

"As I told you, if men do not repent and better themselves, the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment greater than the deluge, such as one will never have seen before. Fire will fall
from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity, the good as well as the bad, sparing neither priests nor faithful.The survivors will find themselves so desolate that they will envy the dead. The only arms which will remain for you will be the Rosary and the Sign left by My Son.

http://www.catholictradition.org/Mary/akita.htm

The prophecy (esp; fire falling from the sky) lost me....

 

[cfowen]

The last Bible prophecy to be fulfilled was the destruction of the temple in 70AD. No one can name anything that's happened, where there is absolutely no doubt that prophecy was fulfilled. Saying the founding of Israel in 1948 fulfilled prophecy is 100% guess work, with no proof at all The reason there has been no prophecy fulfilled is because Biblical prophecy ALWAYS involves Israel and Israel, in God's eyes, ceased to exist in Acts 28:28, due to their refusal to accept Christ. They will be back on the scene when the present 2000 year, Times of the Gentiles, has run its course. If Israel, as a nation, had accepted Christ during the Gospels or Acts. the New Heavens and New earth would now be 1000 years old. When prophecy again starts to be fulfilled, everyone on earth will know it.

 

[TokiEl]

The last Bible prophecy to be fulfilled was the destruction of the temple in 70AD. No one can name anything that's happened, where there is absolutely no doubt that prophecy was fulfilled. Saying the founding of Israel in 1948 fulfilled prophecy is 100% guess work, with no proof at all The reason there has been no prophecy fulfilled is because Biblical prophecy ALWAYS involves Israel and Israel, in God's eyes, ceased to exist in Acts 28:28, due to their refusal to accept Christ. They will be back on the scene when the present 2000 year, Times of the Gentiles, has run its course. If Israel, as a nation, had accepted Christ during the Gospels or Acts. the New Heavens and New earth would now be 1000 years old. When prophecy again starts to be fulfilled, everyone on earth will know it.

Amos 9 14 "I will bring back the captives of My people Israel;
They shall build the waste cities and inhabit them;
They shall plant vineyards and drink wine from them;
They shall also make gardens and eat fruit from them.

15 I will plant them in their land,
And no longer shall they be pulled up
From the land I have given them,”
Says the Lord your God."

 

[cfowen]

Amos 9 14 "I will bring back the captives of My people Israel;
They shall build the waste cities and inhabit them;
They shall plant vineyards and drink wine from them;
They shall also make gardens and eat fruit from them.

15 I will plant them in their land,
And no longer shall they be pulled up
From the land I have given them,”
Says the Lord your God."

Why do you think that's the same event? What proof do you have? Can't you conceive the possibility that 1948 was man-driven (or, NWO driven) rather than God-driven? When that prophecy is finally fulfilled, every one on the earth will know it is. I see no link at all between that scripture and 1948..

 

[TokiEl]

Why do you think that's the same event? What proof do you have? Can't you conceive the possibility that 1948 was man-driven (or, NWO driven) rather than God-driven? When that prophecy is finally fulfilled, every one on the earth will know it is. I see no link at all between that scripture and 1948..

Well the prophecy says that the Jews will return to their land and never be uprooted again.

 

[cfowen]

So? That still doesn't say it's the same event. Since I know that Israel doesn't exist as a nation today, in God's eyes, I know that the possibility of 1948 being a fulfilling of prophecy is zero. No prophecy has been fulfilled since 70AD, even if deluded people like Hal Lindsey have gotten rich spreading the manure.

 

[TokiEl]

So? That still doesn't say it's the same event. Since I know that Israel doesn't exist as a nation today, in God's eyes, I know that the possibility of 1948 being a fulfilling of prophecy is zero. No prophecy has been fulfilled since 70AD, even if deluded people like Hal Lindsey have gotten rich spreading the manure.

While the wandering Jews were without their land for about 2000 years... it was foretold long ago that they would one day return.

You say you know that Israel does not exist as a nation in God's eyes...? Well who helped a handful of holocaust survivors to defend and defeat the Arab armies three times already ? Do you know that the Arabs attacked Israel the very day after the Jews declared the State of Israel ?

Either the Jews are ubermenchen or they got help from God. What do you think ?

 

[cfowen]

While the wandering Jews were without their land for about 2000 years... it was foretold long ago that they would one day return.

You say you know that Israel does not exist as a nation in God's eyes...? Well who helped a handful of holocaust survivors to defend and defeat the Arab armies three times already ? Do you know that the Arabs attacked Israel the very day after the Jews declared the State of Israel ?

Either the Jews are ubermenchen or they got help from God. What do you think ?

They did it on their own in 1948. etc. When they return, under God's blessing and power, it will be every Israelite that has every lived and, I'm fairly confident that, when it happens, time will revert back to 2000 years ago. Every Israelite that has every lived will go through the tribulation in the land.

 

[TokiEl]

They did it on their own in 1948. etc. When they return, under God's blessing and power, it will be every Israelite that has every lived and, I'm fairly confident that, when it happens, time will revert back to 2000 years ago. Every Israelite that has every lived will go through the tribulation in the land.

I rest my case.