Comparison of JAHtruth's "The way home or face the Fire" to the bible (part 2)

[fotw]

Most if not all Christians ignore the old testament. Every time i quote it the reply is... "that's old testament" ...as if the God of the old and new is somehow different?

Matter of convenience i believe.

Most ignore parts of the New Testament as well, specifically in the Gospels where Christ repeatedly speaks of keeping the Commandments. Seems to be the main reason why they ignore the Old Testament, go figure.......

 

[Maldarker]

Wow. I had forgotten how low an opinion of women AJH must have.

3:107 The souls, that are locked inside female-bodies, are closer to Satan than to God, on a spirituallevel, because they have not yet learned the spiritual-qualities, that they need to have, in order to be able to qualify to become a man.

Eve was deceived by Satan in Genesis chapter 3.

They are therefore much more easily manipulated and used by Satan, and have been used successfully, throughout history, to destroy relatively good men, e.g. Adam and Eve; Samson and Delilah; king Arthur Pen-Dragon and queen Guinevere and the list is endless (1st. Timothy 2:14).

Only AJH could include King Arthur mythology amongst the bible's people!!!!!

1 Timothy 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

3:108 Allowing yourself to be manipulated and used, by Lucifer (Satan), is what got you sent here.

Deceived is not manipulated and used. AJH needed to use a dictionary.

You must learn (will-power), NOT to allow your “Self” to be manipulated, and used by him, before you can go home. The more will-power you learn, to help you resist his influence, the higher spiritual-level you attain. That is why men are on a higher spiritual-level, and harder for him to use, and women are on a lower spiritual-level, and easier for him to use.
3:109 Men are SUPPOSED to love God first, and women second; keeping women under control and teaching them, by setting them a good example, as well as by words and advice (1st. Corinthians 11:3 & 1st. Timothy 2:11-12).

I bet AJH would approve of this old ad. I found it via Google image search "sexist pig".

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Actually alot of the women back then where getting peptin a form of speed so yeah hes tired shes not!

 

[The Sojourner]

There is a time to speak out, and then there is a time to keep quiet.
I was deceived by several major issues, including people earlier in my life. I know the devastation and the effort it takes to rebuild a new world-view built on reality and common sense.

Where it comes to seeing people being misled and abused, the big sister comes out in me.
I am thinking of the people out there internet searching who might stumble across the JAHtruth cult.

I get that, but our desire must be for the truth. What if the truth makes us uncomfortable?
We have already established, that the heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked.
So then now we must guard against it and strive to help one another see and find the truth.
TWHOFTF was first published in 1986, the same year Chernobyl happened. It has been out there, for 37 years.
That's before 9/11 happened, before the Invasion of Kuwait happened and Saddam set fire to 1000 oil wells.
It has been sent to world leaders, and leaders of the churches.
I heard of a man in Australia that years ago, ordered 60 copies of the Book (if remembering the number right) because he owned a hotel and wanted to put a copy in each hotel room drawer.
Copies have been sent to recent popes, world leaders, and famous people.
I heard of people who traveled thousands of miles, to bring a copy to Kanye West.
This is just some examples.
We are in a situation, where we have all seen the world situation changing and deteriorating for decades.
People in America are on drugs like never before.
The system is pushing trans-everything; war and rumours of wars abound, earthquakes in diverse places.
These are things that Jesus prophesied about 2000 years ago.
It says that people need to get rid of their superstitions and divisions and come together by turning back to God and start helping one another.
It warns of WW3 and that time is running out.
On the website, it says that the UK and USA are going to lose WW3, as a punishment for not keeping The Covenant, and explains how that it it prophesied.

So, people have a right to know about the Book and what it contains. It's out there in the world and been warning people for 37 years and then to be able to make up their own minds about what it says. It also says, what people need to learn to be able to survive what is coming.

This is about the Invasion of Kuwait and how it fulfilled prophecy:

The Invasion of Kuwait in Prophecy

jahtruth.net

WW3 - warning about Armageddon

World-War 3 - Phase Two

jahtruth.net

People have a right to know that this information is out there, and that is why people who have found it, share it.

 

[The Sojourner]

Wow. I had forgotten how low an opinion of women AJH must have.

3:107 The souls, that are locked inside female-bodies, are closer to Satan than to God, on a spiritual level, because they have not yet learned the spiritual-qualities, that they need to have, in order to be able to qualify to become a man.

Eve was deceived by Satan in Genesis chapter 3.

They are therefore much more easily manipulated and used by Satan, and have been used successfully, throughout history, to destroy relatively good men, e.g. Adam and Eve; Samson and Delilah; king Arthur Pen-Dragon and queen Guinevere and the list is endless (1st. Timothy 2:14).

Only AJH could include King Arthur mythology amongst the bible's people!!!!!

1 Timothy 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

3:108 Allowing yourself to be manipulated and used, by Lucifer (Satan), is what got you sent here.

Deceived is not manipulated and used. AJH needed to use a dictionary.

You must learn (will-power), NOT to allow your “Self” to be manipulated, and used by him, before you can go home. The more will-power you learn, to help you resist his influence, the higher spiritual-level you attain. That is why men are on a higher spiritual-level, and harder for him to use, and women are on a lower spiritual-level, and easier for him to use.
3:109 Men are SUPPOSED to love God first, and women second; keeping women under control and teaching them, by setting them a good example, as well as by words and advice (1st. Corinthians 11:3 & 1st. Timothy 2:11-12).

I bet AJH would approve of this old ad. I found it via Google image search "sexist pig".

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I would say, that by the way you are responding here, and in other posts, you are thereby just proving and showing 3:107 and the other verses to be true.
Instead of becoming humble and accepting what it says, because you know it's true; which would be a step forwards, you are just being dumb here.
There has been lots of conformation here already, of what TWHOFTF says and just how true it is.
I know a woman who told me, that yes, its true; women listen to Satan.
I think that's courageous and smart, she is not too arrogant to be able to come out and say it.
I think she is much more humble than you are, and that you could learn from her example.
Women get caught up in their emotions a lot more than guys do, and guys tend to be a lot more practical and will give you the facts.
And they will tell you when you are being dumb, which is something a lot of women actually appreciate.

And yes, being deceived does mean being manipulated and used. That's the whole point of deception.
That's why Satan deceives people, so that he can use them to say and do what he wants them to say and do, instead of listening to God and doing God's Will.
That's why governments deceive their populations; to be able to manipulate and use them - so they will consume, waste, go to war, go trans, etc.
You should try to be more humble.

 

[The Sojourner]

In the following 3 "verses" Anthony John Hill is really just expanding upon his reincarnation/ reborn worldview.

3:98 You can not remember what human you were previously, because that would cause you, and everyone else, a lot of pain, e.g. if an old man died and came back as a baby, remembering who he had been, and went to see his wife (now his widow), from his previous-lifetime, it would cause her; himself and his new parents, a lot of pain and would serve no useful purpose. Another reason, that you are not allowed to remember what human you were, is because; being the materialistic, selfish people that you are; if you could remember who you had been, you would go and try to claim what were your possessions. Wouldn’t you?

3:99 As the object of being here, is to learn to be unselfish; good and un-materialistic; allowing you to remember would be counterproductive. Also, you wouldn’t want to be able to remember being a murderer, or a rapist, or being murdered, would you?


3:100 What you do remember is all the good that you have learned. All those things that you KNOW are right; and that no-one, in your present-lifetime, has taught you; you have learned in your previous lifetimes.

It may all sound reasonable to readers who already are open to the karma/ reincarnation worldview, but remember Anthony John Hill claims to be Jesus reborn (reincarnated) in Sussex UK 1948.
The bible has to be quoted completely out of context to make it appear it agrees with reincarnation!

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3:101 If you live a good-life, you advance and shorten your sentence. If you live a bad-life, you go backwards and are punished. If you live a half-and-half type of life, you stay at the same place (same spiritual level), and just get a new body to use.

3:102 The trouble with staying at the same place, or going backwards, is that you are running-out of time to earn your pardon.

3:103 The higher you climb, the harder it gets, and the more chance you have of making a mess of things, and going backwards, so the more you need God’s help.

then there is no hope for us. We will never get off the hamster wheel.

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Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Romans
3:12 They are all gone out of The Way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
3:13 Their throat [is] an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps [is] under their lips:
3:14 Whose mouth [is] full of cursing and bitterness:
3:15 Their feet [are] swift to shed blood:
3:16 Destruction and misery [are] in their ways:
3:17 And The Way of peace have they not known:
3:18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.
3:19 Now we know that what things soever The Law saith, it saith to them who are under The Law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
3:20 Therefore by the deeds of The Law there shall no flesh be justified in His sight: for by The Law [is] the Knowledge of sin.
3:21 But now the righteousness of God without The Law is manifested, being witnessed by The Law and the Prophets;
3:22 Even the righteousness of God [which is] by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
3:24 Being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
3:25 Whom God hath fore-ordained [to be] an atonement through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins THAT ARE PAST, through the forbearance of God;
3:26 To declare, [I say], at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth Jesus.
3:27 Where [is] boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? Nay: but by The Law of faith.
3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of The Law.
3:29 [Is He] the God of the Jews only? [Is He] not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:
3:30 Seeing [it is] ONE God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
3:31 Do we then make void The Law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish The Law.

It's in part what the street preacher said in They Live:

THEY LIVE (WE SLEEP)

Put on a pair of Fremen Glasses and see things from a CERTAIN (True) point of view

jahtruth.net

 

[Lyfe]

Gods plan of salvation was never intended to be found in secret or by the mere chance of stumbling across some unknown needle in a haystack ebook by 'jah'. God's nature is to freely give and make known. That's why you can pretty much find a Bible anywhere you nowadays. Where can you find JAHs book?

God wants to be found. That is God's power and sovereignty on display. Let's give God some credit that he has put his word everywhere and wants to be found by everyone and not think he works in secret like some here would suggest. God speaks obviously and gives freely. He doesn't speak through a book by JAH which 99.9% of the world has never even heard of.

I publicly proclaim bold promises. I do not whisper obscurities in some dark corner. I would not have told the people of Israel to seek me if I could not be found. I, the LORD, speak only what is true and declare only what is right. Isaiah 45:19 NLT

 

[The Sojourner]

Gods plan of salvation was never intended to be found in secret or by the mere chance of stumbling across some unknown needle in a haystack ebook by 'jah'. God's nature is to freely give and make known. That's why you can pretty much find a Bible anywhere you nowadays. Where can you find JAHs book?

God wants to be found. That is God's power and sovereignty on display. Let's give God some credit that he has put his word everywhere and wants to be found and not think he works in secret like some here would suggest. God speaks obviously and gives freely. He doesn't speak through a book by JAH which 99.9% of the world has never even heard of.

I publicly proclaim bold promises. I do not whisper obscurities in some dark corner. I would not have told the people of Israel to seek me if I could not be found. I, the LORD, speak only what is true and declare only what is right. Isaiah 45:19 NLT

You are hearing of it now, as many already have heard of it before you. With the advent of the Internet, information is able to spread rapidly, as it is made instantly available to anyone with access. There's a person living in an Indian village who has found it and are translating it for the people in their village. There are many people in Africa, who have found it and are telling people in their areas. It's been translated into several languages already, by people who have found it and read it, and volunteered to do it. You could not always find a Bible everywhere; it had to be printed first, and then it spread. In these days, information is able to spread much faster than it did in past days. It's as easy as giving someone a link.

 

[Lyfe]

You are hearing of it now, as many have already before you. With the advent of the Internet, information is able to spread rapidly, as it is made instantly available to anyone with access. There's a person living in an Indian village who has found it and are translating it for the people in their village. There are many people in Africa, who have found it and are telling people in their areas. It's been translated into several languages already, by people who have found it and read it, and volunteered to do it. You could not always find a Bible everywhere; it had to be printed first, and then it spread. In these days, information is able to spread much faster than it did in past days. It's as easy as giving someone a link.

My advice is don't be someone who wants to be deceived. The message of salvation is simple and open for all by a loving God who wants to be found. He knows your heart.

Grace and peace.

 

[The Sojourner]

My advice is don't be someone who wants to be deceived. The message of salvation is simple and open for all by a loving God who wants to be found. He knows your heart.

Grace and peace.

Thank you, Grace and peace to you as well. Agreed.

TWHOFTF
8:101 Christ foretold of his Second Coming, to his disciples, at the “Last Supper”. He told them that
he had many things, still to tell them, but that they could not bear to hear them yet (John 16:12), but
that the time would come (his Second Coming), when he would not talk in proverbs, or parables, and
would show them clearly about God (John 16:25 & Rev. 10:7).
8:102 He said the Second Coming would be, at a time when they would not think that he was coming
(Luke 12:40), and that he would enlighten the whole world (Matt. 24:27, N.B. Luke 17:24-37 & Rev.
10:7), and that God’s truth (Gospel) must be PUBLISHED, amongst all nations (Mark 13:10). He said
that the churches and their riches would be demolished (Luke 21:5-6), and that all REAL and
PRACTISING believers, of ALL NATIONS, who had the mark of God in their foreheads (direct-
communication with God), would survive the Last-Day (Luke 13:29).
8:103 Do you have the mark? Jesus left a question about the Second Coming: “Nevertheless when the
Son of man comes, shall he find faith on the Earth?” (Luke 18:8). What do you think? Is there faith on
the Earth today?
8:104 Jesus said, if any man does God’s Will, God will prove to him, whether Jesus’ teachings are
true, or whether Jesus has made them up himself (John 7:17).
8:105 You have had 2000 years to test his teachings, and find-out if they are true, and yet you are still
here. Why?

WHY?

The Bible is not just a Book of nice stories. It contains the Old COVENANT and the New
COVENANT (contract/Testament), and is a map for your spiritual-journey of self-perfection. YOU
have to BECOME Abraham, to begin the journey, and then become Isaac; Jacob/Israel; Joseph;
Moses; the Prophets and then FINALLY Jesus.

 

[JoChris]

Romans
3:12 They are all gone out of The Way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
3:13 Their throat [is] an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps [is] under their lips:
3:14 Whose mouth [is] full of cursing and bitterness:
3:15 Their feet [are] swift to shed blood:
3:16 Destruction and misery [are] in their ways:
3:17 And The Way of peace have they not known:
3:18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.
3:19 Now we know that what things soever The Law saith, it saith to them who are under The Law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
3:20 Therefore by the deeds of The Law there shall no flesh be justified in His sight: for by The Law [is] the Knowledge of sin.
3:21 But now the righteousness of God without The Law is manifested, being witnessed by The Law and the Prophets;
3:22 Even the righteousness of God [which is] by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
3:24 Being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
3:25 Whom God hath fore-ordained [to be] an atonement through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins THAT ARE PAST, through the forbearance of God;
3:26 To declare, [I say], at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth Jesus.
3:27 Where [is] boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? Nay: but by The Law of faith.
3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of The Law.
3:29 [Is He] the God of the Jews only? [Is He] not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:
3:30 Seeing [it is] ONE God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
3:31 Do we then make void The Law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish The Law.

It's in part what the street preacher said in They Live:

THEY LIVE (WE SLEEP)

Put on a pair of Fremen Glasses and see things from a CERTAIN (True) point of view

jahtruth.net

I realise you are looking at verse 25 and none of the following verses. Paul announces that we are justified by faith!!!!

Romans 3:25 Whom God hath set forth TO BE [FUTURE TENSE] a propitiation through faith in his blood, to DECLARE [FUTURE TENSE] his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Compare it to Acts 17.
Apostle Paul preached to the Gentile people in Athens.

Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at [PAST TENSE]; but now commandeth [PRESENT TENSE] all men every where to repent:
31 Because he hath appointed [FUTURE TENSE]a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

Assurance of Salvation - bible.org

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That preacher is fits the Hollywood stereotype of a legalistic, self-righteous hypocrite.
He is not preaching how the bible says to do so.

 

[JoChris]

.....

The Bible is not just a Book of nice stories. It contains the Old COVENANT and the New
COVENANT (contract/Testament), and is a map for your spiritual-journey of self-perfection. YOU
have to BECOME Abraham, to begin the journey, and then become Isaac; Jacob/Israel; Joseph;
Moses; the Prophets and then FINALLY Jesus.

That is not the Gospel of the Bible.

 

[lightseeker]

I would say, that by the way you are responding here, and in other posts, you are thereby just proving and showing 3:107 and the other verses to be true.
Instead of becoming humble and accepting what it says, because you know it's true; which would be a step forwards, you are just being dumb here.

That’s not how proving something works
”you don’t accept it, that means it’s true”
thats bad even for a jahtruther

 

[JoChris]

I get that, but our desire must be for the truth. What if the truth makes us uncomfortable?
We have already established, that the heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked.
So then now we must guard against it and strive to help one another see and find the truth.
TWHOFTF was first published in 1986, the same year Chernobyl happened. It has been out there, for 37 years.
That's before 9/11 happened, before the Invasion of Kuwait happened and Saddam set fire to 1000 oil wells.
It has been sent to world leaders, and leaders of the churches.
I heard of a man in Australia that years ago, ordered 60 copies of the Book (if remembering the number right) because he owned a hotel and wanted to put a copy in each hotel room drawer.
Copies have been sent to recent popes, world leaders, and famous people.
I heard of people who traveled thousands of miles, to bring a copy to Kanye West.
This is just some examples.
We are in a situation, where we have all seen the world situation changing and deteriorating for decades.
People in America are on drugs like never before.
The system is pushing trans-everything; war and rumours of wars abound, earthquakes in diverse places.
These are things that Jesus prophesied about 2000 years ago.
It says that people need to get rid of their superstitions and divisions and come together by turning back to God and start helping one another.
It warns of WW3 and that time is running out.
On the website, it says that the UK and USA are going to lose WW3, as a punishment for not keeping The Covenant, and explains how that it it prophesied.

So, people have a right to know about the Book and what it contains. It's out there in the world and been warning people for 37 years and then to be able to make up their own minds about what it says. It also says, what people need to learn to be able to survive what is coming.

This is about the Invasion of Kuwait and how it fulfilled prophecy:

The Invasion of Kuwait in Prophecy

jahtruth.net

WW3 - warning about Armageddon

World-War 3 - Phase Two

jahtruth.net

People have a right to know that this information is out there, and that is why people who have found it, share it.

JAHtruth relies on fear to spread his message.
Jehovah's Witnesses used to be as extreme as JAHtruth AND they even predicted the years when the world would end. They no longer give dates but they still spread overall the same message that Charles Taze Russell started in the 1870s.
[Anthony John Hill actually agrees with a lot of their heresies!]

Unfulfilled Watch Tower Society predictions:
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society publications have made a series of predictions about Christ's Second Coming and the advent of God's Kingdom, each of which has gone unfulfilled. Almost all the predictions for 1878, 1881, 1914, 1918 and 1925 were later reinterpreted as a confirmation of the eschatological framework of the Bible Student movement and Jehovah's Witnesses, with many of the predicted events viewed as having taken place invisibly. Further expectations were held for the arrival of Armageddon in 1975, but resulted in a later apology to members from the society's leadership.
English researcher George D. Chryssides has argued that although there have been some "unrealized expectations", changes in Watch Tower chronology are attributable more to changed chronological schemes, rather than to failed predictions.[1] The Watch Tower Society has acknowledged errors, which it said helped "sift" the unfaithful from its ranks, but says adherents remained confident that "God's Word" had not failed.[2] .....

Further down the page, read:
1975 - the worldwide jubilee and the aftermath

People's lives were destroyed because they trusted Jehovah's Witnesses false prophecies.
The amount of "Awake!"magazines/ New World Translations [translated to JW doctrines] bibles distributing and doorknocking they must have done over one and a half centuries!

 

[JoChris]

Absolutely not. When one KNOWS that they are not the human body they live inside of, and sees how frequently Scripture teaches us about the differences between the spirit and the flesh, and specifically about reincarnation, then it becomes impossible to believe those who don't know what they're talking about.

Choose instead to believe and worship God, Who IS a Spirit-Being.

John 4:23-24
4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in Spirit and in Truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship Him.
4:24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship Him must worship [Him] with their spirit (Being) and in Truth.

So you know better, because you have the JAHtruth Gnosis and non-JAHtruthers don't.

Your failure to actually defend reincarnation using LOGICAL arguments has been noted.

 

[JoChris]

I thought people hearing/ reading the lyrics of Whitney Houston's classic "I'm every woman" song before they read the next big jaw-dropping statements would really make the next few pages really show the massive contrast between the secular society's worldview AS WELL as the bible's viewpoint and "the way home or face the fire".

bi

 

[The Sojourner]

I realise you are looking at verse 25 and none of the following verses. Paul announces that we are justified by faith!!!!

Romans 3:25 Whom God hath set forth TO BE [FUTURE TENSE] a propitiation through faith in his blood, to DECLARE [FUTURE TENSE] his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Compare it to Acts 17.
Apostle Paul preached to the Gentile people in Athens.

Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at [PAST TENSE]; but now commandeth [PRESENT TENSE] all men every where to repent:
31 Because he hath appointed [FUTURE TENSE]a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

Assurance of Salvation - bible.org
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That preacher is fits the Hollywood stereotype of a legalistic, self-righteous hypocrite.
He is not preaching how the bible says to do so.

I was looking at all of the verses.
Including 3:31 (which you left out) that says we establish The Law.

Paul was talking there about the outward keeping of the circumcision, as the Jews do. He was NOT talking about the keeping of the Moral Law (Commandments) as being unnecessary. He said there is no point in being outwardly circumcised, if you break the Commandments, because the breaking of the Law (commiting adultery, sacrilege, etc.) invalidates the outward circumcision of the Jews and makes it uncircumcision: -

Romans
2:22 Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? Thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege?
2:23 Thou that makest thy boast of The Law (boasting of being outwardly circumcised as "a Jew"), through breaking The Law (The Commandments not to commit adultery, idolatry, etc.) dishonourest thou God?
2:24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you (Jews), as it is written.
2:25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep The Law: but if thou be a breaker of The Law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
2:26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of The Law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
2:27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfill The Law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress The Law?
2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither [is that] circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
2:29 But he [is] a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision [is that] of the heart, in the spirit, [and] not in the letter; whose praise [is] not of men, but of God.

Paul is talking of the Jews and circumcision and saying that a man is not justified by being outwardly circumcised in his flesh, but by faith (keeping of the Commandments). That is the context, clearly seen in the preceding verses. Paul made long discourses, which you have to CAREFULLY keep in context to understand them correctly, and the point he was making (2 Peter 3:16) and not come to a wrong conclusion (as Christians have done).

2 Peter 3:16
3:16 As also in all [his] epistles (letters), speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other Scriptures, unto their OWN destruction.

The Divine in me

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(The Meaning of Paul's message)

He was saying you can't boast about outward circumcision (from The Law, as the Jews did) yet break the Commandments (of The Law) as the Jews did. Because the keeping of The Commandments (the circumcision of the heart) is what counts (Deut 10:16).

Deuteronomy
10:16 Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked (arrogant and obstinate).

He was NOT concluding that a man is justified by faith without righteousness, as that would be a contradiction and impossible.
As without repentance to righteousness, there is evidently no faith.

James explained how faith without works (of righteousness) is dead:

James
2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils (liars) also believe, and tremble.
2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain (worthless) man, that FAITH WITHOUT WORKS is DEAD?
2:21 Was not our father justified by WORKS, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar (and God made him your example - Sura 16:123; 60:4)?
2:22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and BY WORKS was faith (trust in God) MADE PERFECT?
2:23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed ONLY God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
2:24 Ye see then how that by WORKS a man is justified, and NOT by faith only.
2:25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by WORKS, when she had received the messengers, and had sent [them] out another way?
2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD also.

That's the same as what Paul was saying in his letters, only Paul (also) focussed on talking about outward circumcision not being a requirement for justification, as some Jews had tried to claim. Paul was apostle to the Gentiles.

Ezra prophesied -

2 Esdras 1:31. When ye offer unto Me, I will turn My face from you: for your solemn feastdays, your new moons, and your circumcisions, have I forsaken.

Paul:

1 Corinthians
7:18 Is any man called being circumcised? Let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? Let him not be (outwardly) circumcised.
7:19 Circumcision (i.e. outwardly circumcision) is nothing, and uncircumcision (i.e. outwardly uncircumcised) is nothing, but the keeping of The Commandments of God [is crucial].

 

[The Sojourner]

I thought people hearing/ reading the lyrics of Whitney Houston's classic "I'm every woman" song before they read the next big jaw-dropping statements would really make the next few pages really show the massive contrast between the secular society's worldview AS WELL as the bible's viewpoint and "the way home or face the fire".

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[The Sojourner]

That’s not how proving something works
”you don’t accept it, that means it’s true”
thats bad even for a jahtruther

You accept it because you know it to be true.
It's called being honest with yourself.

You seem to lack skill when it comes to quoting another person correctly.

You did the same thing before and are still doing it.

 

[lightseeker]

You accept it because you know it to be true.
It's called being honest with yourself.

You seem to lack skill when it comes to quoting another person correctly.

You did the same thing before and are still doing it.

You said because she didn’t accept it, that means she knows it’s true, and is proving it’s true. Again, that’s not how proof works. Again, that is stupid for jahtruth standards. Do better next time.

I would say, that by the way you are responding here, and in other posts, you are thereby just proving and showing 3:107 and the other verses to be true.
Instead of becoming humble and accepting what it says, because you know it's true; which would be a step forwards, you are just being dumb here

 

[JoChris]

3:112 MAN and not woman was created in God’s image, and FIRST. All of the great Prophets were men, and so were ALL of Jesus’ disciples. NOW you know why. Blue for a boy (God’s colour), and pink or red for a girl (Satan’s colour - RED dragon/serpent). There are clues everywhere in life and in nature. All of the Prophets were masters of their own households.

In the first thread I did the JAHtruth quotes in red for innocent motives, I swear! I do need strong reading glasses these days.

When I read 3:112 I was kind and switched it to blue for @A Freeman's sake though.

It did make me wonder exactly where on Earth AJH got the idea that red was only Satan's colour?
Wikipedia - red
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Since red is the color of blood, it has historically been associated with sacrifice, danger, and courage. Modern surveys in Europe and the United States show red is also the color most commonly associated with heat, activity, passion, sexuality, anger, love, and joy. In China, India, and many other Asian countries it is the color symbolizing happiness and good fortune.[4]: 39–63 

Then I thought of how recent newsclips about SatanCon Boston and the photos were in red. The google search results for "occult meaning red" were very eye-opening for me.

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3:113 The selfish-soul has to be a woman first, to be taught, through motherhood, to be less selfish, and the meaning of lasting spiritual love, instead of human-animal-emotion. Once a woman becomes a mother, she should become less selfish, putting her child’s needs first and her husband’s too, because he provides for, and protects, her and his child. She has to learn self-sacrifice and an understanding of REAL love, instead of emotion (1st. Timothy 2:15)

I didn't know whether to be sad or angry at this one.

What does AJH say to women who are childless for whatever reason?!!!!
What does AJH say to women who don't get married [i.e. straight man-woman] or remain single, with or without children?!

Women who don't fit AJH's idea of a perfect woman must go backwards in the reincarnation hamster wheel.

3:114 Men understand real, spiritual love, better than any woman. Men have already learned to love spiritually, whereas women are emotional (human-animal-emotion). This is proved, by the fact, that when a marriage breaks-up, the woman can have sex with someone else, fall madly (emotionally) in love with them, and never give her husband a second-thought, whilst it takes an average man, between 3 and 5 years to get over the hurt: if he ever does.

I wondered if AJH was cheated upon by his wife? It would be understandable if he jumped to that conclusion, especially if he heard similar accounts from other wounded men.

3:115 This is because the man’s love is spiritual; real; deep and lasting, whereas the woman’s is emotional; shallow; animal, and, like animals, only temporary; until she reaches a higher spiritual level, becomes a lady, and closer to qualifying to be a man, i.e. a perfect woman. That is why God, in His great compassion, usually takes the husband first, because the woman can get over the loss easier than the man could, if He took the wife first.

Women who have been played by all the men in their lives should comment on that shocker. A cheating man is better than her.

It is the "like animals" that really disgusted me. We are not dogs on heat!!!! The physical desires that a woman gets is part of God's design for us, to help maintain marital intimacy easily!!! If I get sexual desire for my husband, it is is because my body is healthy and our relationship is healthy!!!!

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If the AJH had a wife, what a difficult life the poor woman would have had if she didn't believe what he said.