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None of them will be successful in America as solo artists but I think only jk and jh are aiming for the west while jm and Vee will focus on sk and the rest of the asian market which is smart imo

Jk and jh will have some success due to their sheep mass buying and mass streaming but it won't be like it was for the whole group cuz many solo stans who aren't into jk or jh won't buy/stream their music

After it sinks in that American success as soloists isnt cutting it both of them will go back to focus on the asian market
 
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Strawberrypie said:
Bigh1t had to debut something before btees went into the military. I think they debuted epipen to make sure one of those groups could carry the company. Unfortunately, Armys haven't been excited about the newer groups. Most Armys are older and won't get into a much younger group. T×t is shiny and epipen is Exxo.
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You are probably right about enpipen being X-0 clone they covered x-0's songs on award shows last year
 
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Kimiko2 said:
Justin probably didn't want to collab with jk/btss

Justin makes music of all genres and not just pop and jk has the musical taste of a 13 y.o white girl from Nebraska


Charlie is totally using jk for a hit song and clout cuz their dumb ass fans will hype up any shitty song they release and spend all their money to mass buy said shitty song

Armyy going to be in their feelings when this song doesn't top the billboard hot 100
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You got me with the comment about jkay having musical taste of a 13 year old white girl but you are spot on. He likes all the American white pop Boys JB, Charlie, JT and he's going to become the Asian Bieber soon. His personality is Vanilla he is a commercial vocalist through and through
 
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Kimiko2 said:
None of them will be successful in America as solo artists but I think only jk and jh are aiming for the west while jm and Vee will focus on sk and the rest of the asian market which is smart imo

Jk and jh will have some success due to their sheep mass buying and mass streaming but it won't be like it was for the whole group cuz many solo stans who aren't into jk or jh won't buy/stream their music

After it sinks in that American success as soloists isnt cutting it both of them will go back to focus on the asian market
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Not many kpop idols have what it takes to be big in America. The American Market is dominated by soloists while kpop idols come from groups of mostly 6-8 members where they have an assigned role of being the main vocal or visual, leader or dancer etc
A soloist has to be the main vocal, a decent performer even if they are not a good dancer, have good stage presence to keep people engaged, be creative enough to distinguish themselves from the crowd and have enough stamina to be able to sing and dance for hours in a solo concert. Most kpop idols don't have all these qualities they mostly lip sync or sing within groups where one member barely songs 40-50 seconds per song, their personality is artificially created by their company same about their concepts and most become idols because they want to be famous.
Jkay got exhausted doing Euphoria and My time both of which weren't even very demanding he'll be singing like j1m1n if he tries doing proper concerts of 1-2 hours he won't survive in American Market unless he finds his own unique identity as a soloist. Hobi may have it better but he doesn't have the kind of fandom Jkay has so I don't see him becoming big any time soon.
 
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Berrywon88 said:
I would also like to add that Kate Bush's Running up that Hill made the top 5 billboard and is #1 on the U.K. singles chart. This song is almost 40 yrs old and regained popularity from being used in the show Stranger things. True testament that good music never d!es! Bteeass wishes their music would have this kind of legacy. I knew with billboard's new rules and armpits not being able to cheat, their drippy song wouldn't be able to make the top 10. Hell they didn't even make the top 100! Sucks for them hahahaha
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Kate Bush is a true artist compared to Bts
 
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Bttsss were barely hanging on during their ptd concerts all out of breath and struggling

Cuz in the past they did solo performances in their concerts so the others could get a rest/break while another was on stage doing their solo song and ptd they didn't do that since they knew it would be their last concert as a group and only performed only 0t7 songs

Jk is not charismatic enough to entertain a crowd by himself while Vee and jm(jm is also an amazing performer) have much better stage presence but can't sing and jn can't sing,has no stage presence and can't dance so he is fucked as a solo artist all the way
 
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Kimiko2 said:
None of them will be successful in America as solo artists but I think only jk and jh are aiming for the west while jm and Vee will focus on sk and the rest of the asian market which is smart imo

Jk and jh will have some success due to their sheep mass buying and mass streaming but it won't be like it was for the whole group cuz many solo stans who aren't into jk or jh won't buy/stream their music

After it sinks in that American success as soloists isnt cutting it both of them will go back to focus on the asian market
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true
but I think....if the full group failed to make the top10 in billboard with their last song. The chances of them doing it as solos is even lower


maybe JK could do it because he has a big fanbase but Hope....even if he is a good performer it will be hard for the public to take him seriously, he is a kpop raper and you know, he has this "funny persona" thing going on

in US interviews Hope was always very cringey and over the top, while JK had no personality at all lol they have to change some things if they want to make it in the US
 
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cadiz said:
true
but I think....if the full group failed to make the top10 in billboard with their last song. The chances of them doing it as solos is even lower


maybe JK could do it because he has a big fanbase but Hope....even if he is a good performer it will be hard for the public to take him seriously, he is a kpop raper and you know, he has this "funny persona" thing going on

in US interviews Hope was always very cringey and over the top, while JK had no personality at all lol they have to change some things if they want to make it in the US
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I agree

I bet jh loses that over the top sunshine persona some-its fake af anyway

Jk is boring as hell and his musical taste is pure ass and just plain boring and bland
Plus neither of them are fluent in English
 
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cadiz said:
true
but I think....if the full group failed to make the top10 in billboard with their last song. The chances of them doing it as solos is even lower


maybe JK could do it because he has a big fanbase but Hope....even if he is a good performer it will be hard for the public to take him seriously, he is a kpop raper and you know, he has this "funny persona" thing going on

in US interviews Hope was always very cringey and over the top, while JK had no personality at all lol they have to change some things if they want to make it in the US
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his funny persona is fake, but he have stage presence and kinda charismatic ..
 
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cadiz said:
well their new song didn't even debut in the top 10 in billboard


https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1538946477443231744

i don't remember last time this happened, even their flop song "life goes on" managed to debut at 1 back then
you can clearly see the change in numbers and fans hype

now lets see if the maknae can get a hit song with this Charlie Puth collab, I don't think Charlie is still popular in the US but maybe he has a bigger chance than BT5, cause it's clear their peak has passed
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Right now they aren't in the top 10's but just reached number 13, however not as popular a Harry Styles. Fans of twitter say stream the song but it's so tiring.

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I don't think JK is on the same level as JB, and never will be. Bieber has been in this industry for so long and it's still so relevant, JK on the other hand, I don't think he'll go far. I think he has talent, but the fact that he's Korean and doesn't have English as his first language will always be a problem. Like, JB, from my point of view he's already crossed the fandom barrier, people listen to his music organically, it's not just fangirl pop anymore (sorry if I'm wrong, but that's what it seems to me when I look at what people in my country listen to). Jungkook will have the support of his fandom and may win one or two, but for the rest of the audience he will always be the kpop guy, exotic and stuff. as much as he does a good job, it's not like Canadian Bieber, British Harry, he speaks Korean and his accent is something hard to beat. So I tend to believe that there is no advantage for Bieber to collaborate with him because he doesn't gain anything from it, unlike Puth who is trying to survive. I think JK will be more successful in his own country and surroundings, not much else.
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That's true, he won't collab now with JB he cancelled all his concerts because his face is frozen. Listening to left or right I felt quite meh about it like a ballad. Jk has been a charlie puth fan for years, but it won't really make a gain, the new left and right song sounds more like a call for any kind of generic pop boy release. They make these days less creative ideas and melodies forcing it out with a collab, even YG said in the festa he was tired of making the music.
 
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Kimiko2 said:
I agree

I bet jh loses that over the top sunshine persona some-its fake af anyway

Jk is boring as hell and his musical taste is pure ass and just plain boring and bland
Plus neither of them are fluent in English
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It might have been the sleepless nights on constant uppers studying, but Jk's english has improved. He was giving replies in English here and there on his last vlive. But I agree about him lacking an authentic personality. He is a hard worker and go getter, but his personality is too stale to entertain a massive audience on stage live. No one is going to want to watch a grown man act ditzy asf and stare off into space in the U.S.
 
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cadiz said:
lol well if this is cconfirmed i'm sure is mediaplay for his upocming solo

[enter-talk] IS ROSE DATING J-HOPE?




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aparently Both of them had similar nail color from that day :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:





look the first comment lol:

1. [+510, -954]
Do you think that Rose has no standards to date a kid like him?

8. [+94, -58]
Then V-Jennie and Hobi-Rose are two couples?
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first comment had me dead ngl lmao
 
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cadiz said:
lol just posted it

yeah it seem too much of a coincidence
two couples from the two most popular kpop groups???

what's next? JK and Lisa have a lot of shippers too :D:D:D

the timing once again is sus, when Hope is starting solo career
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yup timing is hella sus. hope's gonna start his solo career, and garam is rumored to be coming back with fans threatening to boycott the group if she does so hyb3 throws another dating rumor to divert attention away. like clockwork.
 
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