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Black Swan is also synonymous with Vee.
He was seriously dressed as a Blck Swan for his Final singularity performance
(possible foreshadowing?)

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In their Wings Album Vee was the one with Black Wings sprouting from him

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Also in the lyrics;

Verse 1: Suga]
Ayy
The heart no longer races
When hearing the music play
Tryna pull up
Seems like time has stopped
Oh that would be my first death
I been always afraid of


- the "First Death" is them not making music anymore and losing their passion.
- Vee is the one these last few months to look so uninterested in anything BiTs related. He spends more time with his Actor associates and his already married friends.
- Its been noticed that Candyman and Vee are both the ones to stand out in any group shot/ they always have some different outfits that sticks out from the rest.
- possible they both want out and to move on from BTS.

Sorry for long post... still new to actually commenting my observations.
 






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I tried posting my 1000+ words post yesterday, however it still hasn’t been checked by a moderator so I will post the screenshots instead... quite disappointing since I worked hard on my first post (worked on it from 9pm till 11pm). Hope you guys enjoy it! Thank you.
 






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I tried posting my 1000+ words post yesterday, however it still hasn’t been checked by a moderator so I will post the screenshots instead... quite disappointing since I worked hard on my first post (worked on it from 9pm till 11pm). Hope you guys enjoy it! Thank you.
this Kdrama was discussed in the other thread, its basically about Jonghyun, some one pointed it out that his time is 10 years like Jonghyun, I was planned to see it one day lol..but I don't like Kdrama usually..bcz I wanted to know whats secret they reveal about Jonghyun..if you want me to forward you the posts in the other thread, then I will post it here
 






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the poster of black swan movie reminds me of jn in the end of bst mv where he looks into a mirror and then his face starting to crack

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and she is the white swan here, is jn the white swan?
I'm doing an article on Star Wars, Star Wars represents the Jedis (Freemasons) against the Jesuits (Siths). In Star Wars, the Jedi logo is:
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In my opinion, it represents sacrifice, often seen in Star Wars. The fall of a victim, (in Star Wars 8, it has a slight variation, being on a throne). The victim (or Mars), falls (passes in front), Venus in front of Saturn (this creates the black star). Besides, he has the sentence above the mirror in Blood, Sweat & Tears.Including the red beak of the black swan:
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Another interesting thing, a drama returns to KBS: Angel's Last Mission Love:
A drama, which has 32 episodes, and which in episode 30, the girl, is stabbed if I'm not mistaken by a rival (who stabbed her behind the scenes, when she tries to protect her boyfriend, a angel, she will wear a pink dress at this time (Jin wears a pink top, in front of the burning car, in Fire)). She will be stabbed, on the left side (seen from the person), as V stabs her father, on the side, who at another time is represented by J-Hope, who shoots with darts (Blood, Sweat & Tears Japanese version ) a bow in his imagination (Blood, Sweat & Tears). V is struck by his father. During the BTS ZIP photoshoot, V is bloodied while Jin appears with his face completely knocked. The victims of MK Ultra, undergoes games of the dead, we throw them, literally an ax (I met, it was a while ago a victim of MK-Ultra, I understood for the eyes, but I have a quick tick on a drawing he made, his painting represents a dead tree (victim), from which is painted a target, whose ax is thrown. where an ax is thrown (reminiscent of the Peek-A-Boo clip by Red Velvet).
 






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actually, we had a blackout here too in Indonesia on august 2019, i think theyre doing an experiment for ww3 and that causes a blackout? i dont know, but this is very dangerous and it could literally wipe out civilization, i dont think anyone that lives in a city can escape from this, but seriously, id rather die than live a world where NWO has already been made. we have to move out yall im telling you imma head out lmao.
wow really? how did you guys survive it?
I know I know I must ultimately leave Dubai where I am staying, it gonna have one not far away bcz of Iran...I want to go out to Switzerland or New Zealand but my family don't want and don't believe me :(
 






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Forgot to add these two pictures of Vee...
From their lastest photoshoot released, not only is he playing 'mafia' he dawns a Black Swan Mask in some pictures.

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Anyone else reminded of that creepy occult movie?
This reminds me of 50 shade of grey

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And what is the meaning of blood on his body?

He is seen with black and red colors.

"Red has a range of symbolic meanings, including life, health, vigor, war, courage, anger, love and religious fervor. The common thread is that all these require passion, and the "life force" that drives passion blood is red.
When people become angry their faces become flushed with color. When they're happy and healthy, they have rosy cheeks (whereas when they're sick or dying, they have a deathly pallor, lacking in red). When men fight, blood is spilled. In all cases, red blood manifests itself in connection to passion."

"Many ancient cultures believed that black was "the color of mystery and of the mysterious ways and wisdom of God," the historian Ellen Conroy wrote in her book "The Symbolism of Colors" (1921). This was because night, as well as darkness the absence of light transcended human perception in the same way that the wisdom of God was thought to be beyond comprehension.
Of all mysteries, death may have been the biggest. Ancient people were completely "in the dark" about what would happen to them after death, and so it was (and is) represented by the color black in many cultures. There was the added coincidence of death sharing similarities with sleep, which happens in the darkness of night and when closed eyelids block out all light."

 






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at 2:32, He give advise to a fan on vlive. when fan ask "how can I concentrate at my work?" He said "there is only one source of concentration, money". I believe he has enough money for the rest of his life, why he continues?

Once your inside. You cannot leave until they tell you to. And money is never enough. After you get used to a certain wealthy lifestyle. You always have to earn more money because everything is so expensive.
 






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Its yoongi's turn..and jimin has silver hair

They are heading to LA, maybe to perform Black Swan??? Idk but it is clearly for some business
They are performing Black Swan on the James Corden show... it airs on the 28th. They most definitely are going to be working on other things as well.

My question is... isn't Jiin limited on his traveling outside Korea bc of the Military? I could have sworn I read that somewhere.
 






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oh you are back!! Missed your posts
Thanks :) It's nice to see I haven't been forgotten.

They are performing Black Swan on the James Corden show... it airs on the 28th. They most definitely are going to be working on other things as well.

My question is... isn't Jiin limited on his traveling outside Korea bc of the Military? I could have sworn I read that somewhere.
When is he going to start doing his military service?

yes I know but still it is hard to accept.They are ruining lots of life but still his main concern is to pay for luxurious things.
I don't think they care anymore at this point. When you get inside the special circle, you have to give up certain things. Basic things like thinking, morality etc. And I think they have very limited control over songs, acting they do. They are just puppets working for money. Candy said that from day one in a video filmed outside the kpop world in a small cafe. That's their only goal money and fame.
And the rest it's what they are told. But aren't all famous people like that anyways? His latest solo song was so meaningless.


This "black swan" theme and the number" 7" is popping up all of the suddent with their comeback.

To me black swan represents darkness and everything that is evil.

That seven logo looks like somebody who is holding a pen.
Somebody who makes a heart with his fingers. And also a snake.


This brand is based in S.K. Purple color, oness is underlined. Tennis balls in a cage.
I wonder what does the number 15-01-30 represents?


 






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Thanks :) It's nice to see I haven't been forgotten.



When is he going to start doing his military service?



I don't think they care anymore at this point. When you get inside the special circle, you have to give up certain things. Basic things like thinking, morality etc. And I think they have very limited control over songs, acting they do. They are just puppets working for money. Candy said that from day one in a video filmed outside the kpop world in a small cafe. That's their only goal money and fame.
And the rest it's what they are told. But aren't all famous people like that anyways? His latest solo song was so meaningless.


This "black swan" theme and the number" 7" is popping up all of the suddent with their comeback.

To me black swan represents darkness and everything that is evil.

That seven logo looks like somebody who is holding a pen.
Somebody who makes a heart with his fingers. And also a snake.


This brand is based in S.K. Purple color, oness is underlined. Tennis balls in a cage.
I wonder what does the number 15-01-30 represents?


The date 1/15/30 (15-01-30) maybe that shows their ending/when they will disband or lose all their power?? Or when the NWO will rise. It literally said one world one fila. They are not slick.
 






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Jin's hypermobile fingers

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Swan Neck Deformity
Swan neck deformity is a deformed position of the finger, in which the joint closest to the fingertip is permanently bent toward the palm while the nearest joint to the palm is bent away from it (DIP flexion with PIP hyperextension).
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swan_neck_deformity

On some occasions you might've seen Jin wear something like this:
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This is a splint for patients with Swan Neck Deformity. They're usually applied to the most hypermobile finger to protect it from further damage and therefore keeps it from moving.
https://aminoapps.com/c/btsarmy/page/blog/bts-x-medical-conditions-jins-fingers/J8kM_D8QhduDG8wormxMB50kV66w3zaen

Causes

While there are several potential causes of swan neck deformity, the most common cause is rheumatoid arthritis.

Other possible causes may include one or more of the following:

  • other types of arthritis
  • untreated mallet finger - a condition often caused by injury
  • poorly healed fracture in the finger
  • other direct trauma to finger that has weakened the ligaments surrounding the PIP joint
  • nerve damage that causes muscle spasms
  • severely jammed finger tip
  • tightened hand muscles due to injury
  • looseness of the fibrous plate inside the hand located at the base of the fingers
  • loose finger ligaments
  • ruptured finger tendon or tendons
  • some genetic conditions, such as Ehlers-Danlos syndrome
You're probably wondering why I'm telling you all this. In the recent posts, many of you have noticed that Jin is very scared of everything and flinches at every sound. I mentioned that his timidness might come from a maltreatment or other trauma.
It could also be that his Swan Neck Deformity comes from the same trauma or abuse that is responsible for his fearfulness.

We know that Jin comes from a rich family and his father is a CEO. Not all rich people belong to the elite aka the occultists, but I believe that Jin's family is one of them. MK Ultra is often used on young children because it works best. And in MK Ultra torment is often used to cause a trauma.
I know this post is old and the OP is long gone but It's interesting that Jin happened to have a condition called SWAN neck deformity.
Is it predictive programming- perhaps?
 






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The date 1/15/30 (15-01-30) maybe that shows their ending/when they will disband or lose all their power?? Or when the NWO will rise. It literally said one world one fila. They are not slick.
yeah I know the NWO would be in 2030..I think they are referring to that!!!
my guess is Kpop would be long gone when 2030 comes..bcz WW3 would be there for years before NWO comes..right?
 






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I know this post is old and the OP is long gone but It's interesting that Jin happened to have a condition called SWAN neck deformity.
Is it predictive programming- perhaps?
I one saw a pic of young jin with a now famous actor who player in the decendents . It looked like a school pic/ private school or something . I wonder wether his father is in the entertainment industry maybe . Thats why he is in it now. He deffinetly must be aware of the evil than . Also in this video he makes alott of eye movements does he also have tourrettes ?
He repeatedly does the same movements with his eyes.nose 3:26-3:33
 






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I one saw a pic of young jin with a now famous actor who player in the decendents . It looked like a school pic/ private school or something . I wonder wether his father is in the entertainment industry maybe . Thats why he is in it now. He deffinetly must be aware of the evil than . Also in this video he makes alott of eye movements does he also have tourrettes ?
He repeatedly does the same movements with his eyes.nose 3:26-3:33
I wouldn't at all be surprised if he had tourrettes and if tourettes is caused by MK ultra abuse as Billie GOAT Eilish suffers from it and I'm sorry but that girl is the epitome of MK ultra trauma
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"Sleep Paralysis" may also explain Tae's aversion to sleep (?)
"Phantasy hallucination" may explain his ghost thing.

on a funny note:
Idk what "Artic Hysteria" is but there's an art museum named after it. Shall I recommend it to my one eyed friend or tea? kekeke

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They're suckers for occult art but they didn't come here yet?
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lol 3/4 of the hyung line just talked called out sajaegi in music shows or v-live. OH the SHEER IRONY
Seriously though you said "no more irony" in idol, you fellas and your big head honchos playin'!

Also, lucky me! I get to be the first one to do a post about their spanking brand-new release- black swan.
I mean like I said I'm no L like some of y'all, but I'll try. :) (edit: Taepeach just beat me to it TT)

The video begins with a quote by Martha Graham, known to be a 'pioneer of modern dance'
of course, of all things the quote of choice just HAD to be about death lol.
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So who is this beloved "Martha Graham"?
she had a prolific career but a couple of the dances she was involved in sound... just a wee bit sus...
Like 'Baal Shem' , 'A pagan poem','Incantation','Ekstasis', her final work of choreography being 'Diversion of Angels'.
Ok. not as dodgy as Nietzche, who they also quoted in their previous work but still somebody who may be involved in some sort of mysticism. Someone who is good at searching up data should see if she has ties to a dynasty like the Rothschild's.
Alright. Now that's out of the way, time for the ACTUAL VIDEO.
and lyrics... I don't know jack about dance so I might disappoint you.

So they're in an abandoned shopping mall. In fact, it's not even them.
It's a choreography team dancing to their music.
Does this imply that they will be replaced?
Notice they always film their dark concepts in abandoned places.

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Ahhh the old cube for that Saturn kick to it.
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Gotta get that AS ABOVE SO BELOW symbolism in there huh?
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"Power Hungry"? (graffitied on the esculator) I'm so surprised
Maybe the thing with two eyes and horns is a baphomet.
And yep, of course they have thir 3 pointed crown in there.
I'm starting to wonder if 3 points have significance in a crown.
I suppose 3 is a significant number to the occult.

Ok I sucked at that, but that's ok. Someone else here surely is learned in dance and dance interpretation.
Let's have a look at the title and lyrics.
Black Swan
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tldr; It's about something unexpected because it is so rare.
ok. not very helpful, but what about Natalie Portman's highly esteemed film of the same title?
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Somebody actually started a thread about this film, but it didn't go very far.
I've never seen this film but going off of what was said in the thread,
it followed the story of a young girl controlled by her handler... I mean mother! She learns ballet and is sexually abused by the ballet teacher who didn't just teach him ballet, but masturbation. She also has an envy, yet lesbian fantasy about her competitor and a fractured personality (duality and alters)
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Not to mention the 'Lolita' handbag the actress wore to the premiere,
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and the poster resembling female genitals... Sneaky one there.
Of course
there were typical
symbolisms such as butterflies and eyes all over. And apparently a statue of satan as well.

Mind you, I haven't seen this movie, I'm simply summarising what was said in the other thread.
Here's somebody's theory on reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueFilm/comments/77r97k
(edit II: Swan Song)
There's also such a thing known as a 'swan song'
It refers to the song sung before the swan's death.
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Alrighty, time to move on to the lyrics~!

Do your thang
Do your thang with me now
Do your thang
Do your thang with me now
What's my thang
What's my thang tell me now
Tell me now
Yeah yeah yeah yeah


Wow! bTs HaVe SuCh DeeP LyRicS! uWU ~every army ever seriously
we're off to a great start.

Ayy
The heart no longer races
When hearing the music play
Tryna pull up
Seems like time has stopped
Oh that would be my first death
I been always afraid of

If this can no longer resonate
No longer make my heart vibrate
Then like this may be how I die my first death
But what if that moment's right now
Right now

Remember what I posted yesterday about a first and second blood.
It's beginning to make more sense now.
Perhaps this is about all of them getting sacrificed to be replaced or cash in.
It's unlikely but not entirely improbable. If you think about it, the essence of this song is about their fear of fading away, not being a useful asset to their company anymore, and consequently- getting axed.

Heartbeat pulsing slow in my ears bump bump bump
Try to flee but back into the maw jump jump jump
No song affects me anymore
Crying out a silent cry

Ocean with all light silenced shut yeah yeah yeah
My wandering feet held in a rut yeah yeah yeah
Every noise and sound's been cut yeah yeah yeah
Killin' me now
Killin' me now
Do you hear me yeah


Light being SILENCED?
Is this another dimension?
I supposed thunder is the sound caused by lightning and lightning is symbolic of s4tan
Stan doesn't gain from them anymore so he's killing them???
Killin' me now reminded me of 'kill me softly' from'blood sweat and tears'or 'badbye' from namrod's mixtape mono.
They're obsessed with getting killed and their time is shorter now so it's killing me NOW

Look that verse confused me a lot I'm terribly sorry.

Sinking slowly like in a trance nah nah nah
Struggle but it's all ocean floor nah nah
Every moment becomes eternity yeah yeah yeah
Film it now
Film it now
Do you hear me yeah


So I guess they want to squeeze as much out of them with the little time they have left before they sink to their... eternity.

Do your thang
Do your thang with me now
Do your thang
Do your thang with me now
What's my thang
What's my thang tell me now
Tell me now
Yeah yeah yeah yeah


Nice to see these deep meaningful lyrics again.

Deeper
Yeah I think I'm goin' deeper
I keep losing focus
No, just let go of me
Let my own feet carry me
I'll go in myself
In the deepest depths
I saw myself

Slowly, I open my eyes
I'm in my workroom, it's my studio
Wild waves
Even if you pass me by
I'll never get dragged away again
Inside
I saw myself, myself

Heartbeat racing in my ears bump bump bump
Eyes wide open into my forest jump jump jump
Nothing can devour me
I shout out with ferocity

Ocean with all light silenced shut yeah yeah yeah
My wandering feet held in a rut yeah yeah yeah
Every noise and sound's been cut yeah yeah yeah
Killin' me now
Killin' me now
Do you hear me yeah

Sinking slowly like in a trance nah nah nah
Struggle but it's all ocean floor nah nah
Every moment becomes eternity yeah yeah yeah
Film it now
Film it now
Do you hear me yeah

Do your thang
Do your thang with me now
Do your thang
Do your thang with me now
What's my thang
What's my thang tell me now
Tell me now
Yeah yeah yeah yeah


Summary: sorry this was a pretty rubbish analysis, but I think all in all, they know their time is up real soon and this is their lament.
It's about being replaced, pride comes before a fall sort of thing.
I hope it's not true and this whole sacrifice thing is baloney, but if it's not...we'll know then.

I liked the instrumental with the strings to be honest but the auto tune ruined it for me.

ps: just for fun I looked up 'thang' in gematria and found it to share the same values as 'Theban'
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"Do your Theban with me now"

This was a good analogy however I'll add my own to it a bit. I don't think it's about such an open-ended idea of them being disposable to the devil (which, sure they are). But I think it's about a specific member: Jin. If any of you have been following this thread since the beginning you'll know of Bang Shi Hyuk's affinity for "predictive programming" (images and symbolism predicting a planned out future). Early on, someone found still images from their older music videos with sick drawings on the walls saying things like "Goodbye Jin" and "Bye Jin 2020" and it led everyone to believe Jin was going to be sacrificed around this year.
You also mentioned swan songs being the "final song" or goodbye song before retirement/death. This whole album/concept might be his final one. If that's the meaning, it makes this Jin theory all make sense since Bighit's satanic team did already write that sick "Jin 2020" stuff in the MVs. Another reason why it's Jin is that he has a physical deformity by the name of "Swan Fingers" on his hands. It's caused by either rheumatoid arthritis or trauma to the finger via nerves. Again, Hitman Bang loves predictive programming.

I think that meaning of Black Swan you gave - an unpredictable event completely out of left-field that shocks everyone... don't you think Jin passing away at the height of their momentous career would be a Black swan event? And with the influence they have on so many young girls, think of the effect it would have, the despair it would bring. In macro-astrology (which the elite believe in) we're also right now in the nano age of Capricorn, we entered it ~end of December 2019 (Capricorn rules doom and gloom, hard, dark times which puts the WW3 memes immediately trending in January into perspective). It's the prime time for something shocking and depressing to happen. 9/11 was a Black Swan for the US, think of what Jin's death will be for young girls across the WORLD. And again, it would be completely unexpected.

(p.s: I've been trying to attach the screenshots for the older music videos where it says the Bye Jin and 2020 stuff on the walls and also pictures of his physical deformity but it's not attaching. If anyone could help me out I'd be grateful).
 






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