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it looks like the part "Ego and Shadow" will be included in this 7 album
Persona series was supposed to be 3 different albums..... but now they changed it to only one album called 7

not sure if they are rushing things because JN must go...or what else happened
but this looks like their biggest project yet
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They prompted this baph0met's "As Above So Below" pose a lot in the last few months and it has something to do with the new album..
I had just fallen back, he had two days on a video for V For Vendetta, which puts certain symbols, and he had this alchemy drawing of Freemasonry:
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But wtf is that red stuff supposed to be around the doors in the comeback trailer
It's a depiction that when you move thorugh a door of fame or success or whatever high level.. you leave a part of you behind .. a part of your Blood sweat and tears is left behind .. ( it actually looks like meat and blood but that is Red Wax ) and is inspired by an indian British sculptor Anish kapoor and is called SVAYAMBH .. a sanskrit word..
Well i got scared of it ..it looked really bloody and gorey to me..

More from anish the sculptor..
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It's a depiction that when you move thorugh a door of fame or success or whatever high level.. you leave a part of you behind .. a part of your Blood sweat and tears is left behind .. ( it actually looks like meat and blood but that is Red Wax ) and is inspired by an indian British sculptor Anish kapoor and is called SVAYAMBH .. a sanskrit word..
Well i got scared of it ..it looked really bloody and gorey to me..

More from anish the sculptor..
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I think BeetieS also had references to Kubrick's flim "The shining". (It has became a habit of them by now to pay tribute to him lol) This movie is highly filled with occult symbolism and it's actually about demonic posession, mk ultra, human and spiritual sacrifice( there is a scene where blood comes through elevator doors just like in their trailer) etc. The corridors also symbolize the maze and the minotaur. It even has the as above so below symbolism. You guys need to check out this analysis of the Shining, it's long but worth reading, I believe BeetieS embedded most of this movie references to their comeback. Please, tell me what you think.
 






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I mean youre really gonna tell me this is the kind of girl bt$ is good friends with?? And they act all innocent and friendly in person like they just havent been releasing satanic perverted symbolic music videos? This is what is " art" and "different" and "genius" now.
(Shes wearing leapord print = beta sex kitten, blond hair, preaching pride/selfishness)

Orgy scenes....

OH SWEETY IF YOU ONLY KNEW
 






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I think BeetieS also had references to Kubrick's flim "The shining". (It has became a habit of them by now to pay tribute to him lol) This movie is highly filled with occult symbolism and it's actually about demonic posession, mk ultra, human and spiritual sacrifice( there is a scene where blood comes through elevator doors just like in their trailer) etc. The corridors also symbolize the maze and the minotaur. It even has the as above so below symbolism. You guys need to check out this analysis of the Shining, it's long but worth reading, I believe BeetieS embedded most of this movie references to their comeback. Please, tell me what you think.
One of my favorite horror movies, that analysis was very interesting. I can see the mirror and mk ultra references. The red wax as @Hopeful mentioned could represent the blood shed for their group, ultimately to be at the spot they are currently at. I wonder why they would add hooded figures (wearing sunglasses) in the video representing fans? Even if he were talking about his alter/shadow that comes off beyond rude, he sees them as nothing ultimately because he's in a position of no return. Again, I will bring this up, if they were not part of an elite group why would they not leave? This has been shown, represented, and implied before, BT$ scoffs and act very rude toward fans. Even if the illuminati did not exist, there should be no reason why they should make music and art that shows them regretting fame. That's like becoming a firefighter and getting angry when you get a call from someone whose house is burning. Sure, every occupation can get annoying at points, but why represent fans dressed as hooded men. Oh yea, because it does not only mean fans it goes beyond that.

good one @taepeach it totally is a guilt trip. This fan is feeling antsy trying to protect the boys.
 






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One of my favorite horror movies, that analysis was very interesting. I can see the mirror and mk ultra references. The red wax as @Hopeful mentioned could represent the blood shed for their group, ultimately to be at the spot they are currently at. I wonder why they would add hooded figures (wearing sunglasses) in the video representing fans? Even if he were talking about his alter/shadow that comes off beyond rude, he sees them as nothing ultimately because he's in a position of no return. Again, I will bring this up, if they were not part of an elite group why would they not leave? This has been shown, represented, and implied before, BT$ scoffs and act very rude toward fans. Even if the illuminati did not exist, there should be no reason why they should make music and art that shows them regretting fame. That's like becoming a firefighter and getting angry when you get a call from someone whose house is burning. Sure, every occupation can get annoying at points, but why represent fans dressed as hooded men. Oh yea, because it does not only mean fans it goes beyond that.

good one @taepeach it totally is a guilt trip. This fan is feeling antsy trying to protect the boys.
About the hooded men, I think that at first glance, BeetieS wanted to show us that the fans themselves are responsible for their growth/downfall, by writing BeetieS' story and leading their path. Bigshit ask fans to help them, thinking in reality that they are the ones who control their fate. Fans also think they are the ones in control. But given the fact that all of these were planned from the beginning, the true writers of the story(bigshit) use their audience, who represent society and public opinion to make up BeetieS' story by their own rules. At first they implanted this idea of BeetieS into their heads and they go from being offenders to being the victims in the eyes of the public. So, the true faceless puppets (hooded people) are not anyone else, but the fans too. It's like a dollhouse/puppet show. BeetieS are trapped, fans are trapped but everyone thinks that they are the ones pulling the strings. I hope that this makes sense, I can't explain it any better in English :/ As for their fame, most entertainers are entitled little brats, they like to complain about the pressure of being famous but in reality they wouldn't trade their position for anything in the world their ego is too high. They truly believe that they are above anyone else and have God complex. Not to mention that they are being blackmailed all they time, everyone has receipts on everyone. Also, even if they wanted to leave, companies won't allow it, I watched a video on Yt the other day where this model revealed all about sex trafficking in the industry and said that she wanted to leave her company but she can't and she took the case to court. That model is nowhere near famous to begin with, so you could imagine what happens on a bigger scale.
 






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I believe seun_gree s*x scandal was to discredit whyG and replace bgheat. I mean scandal is true but it is brought to daylight on purpose. I start to believe, everything major happened in kpop is somewhat related to them. What kind of ritual/sacrifice they do to receive that ultimate support ?
yes, everything Big bad happen in Kpop is connected to BTS
I believe Seungri scandal is completely made up, I have posted that video before in the other thread, but thought if people here interested, here is the video

I says at the end of the video that all of this for BTS, and I predicted something bad going to happen to EXO for BTS further success, and its happening now
 






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I am very sorry about the off topic post.
One artist is bothering me for years and that's Selena Gomez. It feels like no one is commenting on her connection to the illuminati. I remember she was coming to Bulgaria twice secretly and she was always visiting gypsy neighboorhoods with a van and a crew. The official statement is that she is part of an against Human trafficking programme but I don't buy it! If she is coming to protect children why is she is travelling there with a van? It looks super fishy and bearing in mind all the millions she has it can't be just an action of a good will because the elite wouldn't let her. We saw what happened to Avici for trying to help stop the human trafficking- he died!
Here in this video you can see at 01:26 her going in a van.
The reason I am bringing this up is her new song Rare that came out yesterday and already has over 7 milion views.
In the video I saw her wearing rings that resembled the masonic rings
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Another symbolic things in the video are butterflies and spider webs.
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Some time ago there was a conspiracy about her sacrifice of a girl that was found in a hotel's freezer dead. Selena's music video for fetish had her being in a freezing room so people thought she used her organ for her kidney transplant. Idk if it's true but I am 100% sure she can't be at that high level without being part of "the game".
If somebody knows about her role in the illuminati please share some information because overall opinion of everyone is that she is a very believing christian and she seems to be very protected by the elite. Her colleages Miley Cyrus and Demi Lovato had multiple breakdowns and change in their image and Selena always seems to be portrated as a cute and innocent young woman and idk why for some reason she is still not over Justin Bieber and all her music is about him and...people still care! Like gee...
 






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interesting any guesses?

BTW this 7 is in the same hues of The G in Freemason symbols gold and blue the description of the importance on these colors are online.

wow why is this 7 so important> biggest ritual im calling it from months. before.
7 is also considered the number of God. Because He created the world in 7 days. In Revelation 7 is also a key word *the sound of the 7 trumpets*. May be bts is pushing the end world agenda. What if the antichrist is already on the way?
 






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I am very sorry about the off topic post.
One artist is bothering me for years and that's Selena Gomez. It feels like no one is commenting on her connection to the illuminati. I remember she was coming to Bulgaria twice secretly and she was always visiting gypsy neighboorhoods with a van and a crew. The official statement is that she is part of an against Human trafficking programme but I don't buy it! If she is coming to protect children why is she is travelling there with a van? It looks super fishy and bearing in mind all the millions she has it can't be just an action of a good will because the elite wouldn't let her. We saw what happened to Avici for trying to help stop the human trafficking- he died!
Here in this video you can see at 01:26 her going in a van.
The reason I am bringing this up is her new song Rare that came out yesterday and already has over 7 milion views.
In the video I saw her wearing rings that resembled the masonic rings
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Another symbolic things in the video are butterflies and spider webs.
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Some time ago there was a conspiracy about her sacrifice of a girl that was found in a hotel's freezer dead. Selena's music video for fetish had her being in a freezing room so people thought she used her organ for her kidney transplant. Idk if it's true but I am 100% sure she can't be at that high level without being part of "the game".
If somebody knows about her role in the illuminati please share some information because overall opinion of everyone is that she is a very believing christian and she seems to be very protected by the elite. Her colleages Miley Cyrus and Demi Lovato had multiple breakdowns and change in their image and Selena always seems to be portrated as a cute and innocent young woman and idk why for some reason she is still not over Justin Bieber and all her music is about him and...people still care! Like gee...
Sadly, I don't know much about her but honestly, her visiting gypsy neighborhoods sounds kinda fishy to me. Of course it might be only a stereotype and I'm positive that there are plenty of great gypsy people in the world, but they are famous for practicing strong magic. I live in the Balkans and we have many Gypsies who do that (they are also known for being very good at it) so I am inclined to think that she visited them for that purpose. You'd be surprised to know how many celebrities actually are involved with magic/wicca and pay a visit to witches and tarot readers, at least in my country. The only thing I constantly hear about her is that she's a hardcore druggie and her lupus story is fake when in reality she just needed the kidney because of her organ failure due to drugs/cocaine.
 






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Tae posted this on weverse a few hours ago. I hope he's ok. It means "end".

I'm just thinking of Hara's last post saying "goodnight"
Maybe by that he means "end of an era" or something like it? Because I think that their upcoming album is gonna be their last as a 7 member group. On the other hand, several of the members seem to successfully "predict" their next steps, so I hope that there is nothing else going on :/
 






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Kookie posted this pic of him on Twitter in which he is seen standing in front of a board/door filled with photos of places all around the world, with the tag "connect Bt€" and now Armiez have gone crazy trying to figure out what it means and searching to find these said places. Is it a hint for their album or is it something else that will be happening worldwide? I'm got kinda anxious about it tbh.


Also Armiez have pointed out that one photo of an art piece distinguished in the background is by this artist called Ant0ny G0rmley. I googled his art and this huge sculpture of him came up, it is called "Angel of the North", maybe it is just me but certainly it doesn't look like an angel, more like a demon and/or Egyptian god, it is creepy.
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Some years ago, in my counry there was a statue that kinda looked like the above one named "Red angel". Most of the people here, thought that it represented Satan in reality and that caused public outrage, so they had to take it down. This was the statue I'm talking about.

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Kookie posted this pic of him on Twitter in which he is seen standing in front of a board/door filled with photos of places all around the world, with the tag "connect Bt€" and now Armiez have gone crazy trying to figure out what it means and searching to find these said places. Is it a hint for their album or is it something else that will be happening worldwide? I'm got kinda anxious about it tbh.


Also Armiez have pointed out that one photo of an art piece distinguished in the background is by this artist called Ant0ny G0rmley. I googled his art and this huge sculpture of him came up, it is called "Angel of the North", maybe it is just me but certainly it doesn't look like an angel, more like a demon and/or Egyptian god, it is creepy.
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Some years ago, in my counry there was a statue that kinda looked like the above one named "Red angel". Most of the people here, thought that it represented Satan in reality and that caused public outrage, so they had to take it down. This was the statue I'm talking about.

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I see this album as a self-pity, attention seeking, money grabbing, and NWO agenda pushing more than anything. You are from Greece?


BTW another confirmation that they must be referencing to that artist since there will be a connection to England soon.

https://twitter.com/BTSmostdaesang/status/1216017069361201152 very cheeky that the artwork is called clearing. As in clearing the path of anybody in their way of fame. Notice how the second post emphasized that the artwork is made from 7 km of raw metal. Does Big$hit just go through each work from an artist and look for a 7 somewhere?

And more weird stuff:
and don't forget that this fan just got a response from hopepoop lol out of millions of fans the ones that somehow connect the dots are so lucky to get noticed.
playing the pity game, woe me bohoo. Edit: Ambush gematria= 53 or 8. Suga had 8 figures and 8 in most of this intro film. Tour Poster also references 8.
R u 8 too could mean are you in the NWO with us too? So far Jonghyun and JuiceWrld had an 8 in their death date somehow. Weird coincidence. NWO has gematria of 52=which could be referencing 7 too. So the 8 must mean something besides the ego thing.
I knew it was a reference to Yamaha but forgot he had an accident this is a confirmation that somehow they always play victim like okay everybody has had an injury of some kind why place it in a movie. Of course to say he would be nowhere without being challenged. Notice that the Y in blue is also in a similar hue to the 7 in their album cover.. The Y also represents what $uga says happened that day of the accident which he says he came forward and collided with a car last time I heard it was a taxi but I could be wrong. He had an accident while performing a delivery on his moto. He hid this from the company and when he finally told his manager the Ceo paid for all of his tuition + reimbursed money to his family.
He also claimed:
“I was so frustrated at that time that I bought lottery tickets every week. You know, my future looked pretty dark at that time. A pig appeared in my dream at one point and began calling out the winning lottery numbers, but it stopped at the last minute. I was so devastated.” Pig.....and referencing that he was so desperate since it was a dark period, meaning he would do anything to keep his trainee position since nothing else was going for him at the time.
https://twitter.com/cheonjaeSUGA_/status/1216047786967228417 you mean talking to your alter.. or talking about the NWO lol.

Do you think maybe RM, V or the other members interested in art were referencing it to so much on their "break" as a way to get the artist's attention or okay to reference their art. Makes it seem like they wanted to get a painter/artist's attention to get a nod of approval. Funny how now they are delving into the art world another elitist playground. Remember when RM was referencing to that Illuminati contemporary artist from England, Damien Hirst.
https://twitter.com/7minPDnimbts/status/1216003731101298688

So far they also ripped off Jean Basquiat's work too in $uga's video, hope they gave credit it to him, oh yea nvm he was Illuminati as fuck too so they don't need to ask.
https://twitter.com/choi_bts2/status/1215894094766956545 I am gonna beat Army to it, he's referencing to Argentina (Patagonia), since they are heading there soon. BTW V people ride the subway all the time congrats for not getting mobbed +coughs+ I mean ambushed.
 






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I see this album as a self-pity, attention seeking, money grabbing, and NWO agenda pushing more than anything. You are from Greece?


BTW another confirmation that they must be referencing to that artist since there will be a connection to England soon.

very cheeky that the artwork is called clearing. As in clearing the path of anybody in their way of fame. Notice how the second post emphasized that the artwork is made from 7 km of raw metal. Does Big$hit just go through each work from an artist and look for a 7 somewhere?

And more weird stuff:
and don't forget that this fan just got a response from hopepoop lol out of millions of fans the ones that somehow connect the dots are so lucky to get noticed.
playing the pity game, woe me bohoo. Edit: Ambush gematria= 53 or 8. Suga had 8 figures and 8 in most of this intro film. Tour Poster also references 8.
R u 8 too could mean are you in the NWO with us too? So far Jonghyun and JuiceWrld had an 8 in their death date somehow. Weird coincidence. NWO has gematria of 52=which could be referencing 7 too. So the 8 must mean something besides the ego thing.
I knew it was a reference to Yamaha but forgot he had an accident this is a confirmation that somehow they always play victim like okay everybody has had an injury of some kind why place it in a movie. Of course to say he would be nowhere without being challenged. Notice that the Y in blue is also in a similar hue to the 7 in their album cover.. The Y also represents what $uga says happened that day of the accident which he says he came forward and collided with a car last time I heard it was a taxi but I could be wrong. He had an accident while performing a delivery on his moto. He hid this from the company and when he finally told his manager the Ceo paid for all of his tuition + reimbursed money to his family.
He also claimed:
“I was so frustrated at that time that I bought lottery tickets every week. You know, my future looked pretty dark at that time. A pig appeared in my dream at one point and began calling out the winning lottery numbers, but it stopped at the last minute. I was so devastated.” Pig.....and referencing that he was so desperate since it was a dark period, meaning he would do anything to keep his trainee position since nothing else was going for him at the time.
https://twitter.com/cheonjaeSUGA_/status/1216047786967228417 you mean talking to your alter.. or talking about the NWO lol.

Do you think maybe RM, V or the other members interested in art were referencing it to so much on their "break" as a way to get the artist's attention or okay to reference their art. Makes it seem like they wanted to get a painter/artist's attention to get a nod of approval. Funny how now they are delving into the art world another elitist playground. Remember when RM was referencing to that Illuminati contemporary artist from England, Damien Hirst.
https://twitter.com/7minPDnimbts/status/1216003731101298688

So far they also ripped of Jean Basquiat's work too in $uga's video hope they gave credit it to him, oh yea nvm he was Illuminati as fuck too so they don't need to ask.
https://twitter.com/choi_bts2/status/1215894094766956545 I am gonna beat Army to it, he's referencing to Argentina (Patagonia), since they are heading there soon. BTW V people ride the subway all the time congrats for not getting mobbed +coughs+ I mean ambushed.
Thank you so much for this, what an excellent analysis, I am always looking forward to your answers, they are always on point! Actually I'm partly Serbian and partly Greek, but I've lived in Greece for 4 years now. What about you if you don't mind me asking? About all these artists Bt€ are referencing to, is it me or their art is very crappy? I mean, 7 km raw metal for this? Everyone can be an artist nowadays it seems, it reminds me of this artist who's art included a single banana on some wall or something and it was sold for millions. I adore art, but this isn't it imo. I also think that no serious artist would want to cooperate with some pop stars.
Yes, they are definitely throwing a pity party. Where is the dignity? Ok, candyman had an accident and of course that is terrible, I don't revel in other people's bad luck, but out of all their hardships that had been through, they chose to place this? I think they are running out of ideas (and incidents) as to how to gain sympathy from Armiez. Also Vee in the subway?? Is this the same person that keeps complaining about the fans breathing next to him? Wow, they are so approachable!!11!! I think they are trying to rebuild their public image to Koreans, since most of them still don't care about them. Had it been another member, it would be more believable, but Vee? No. He is too snobbish for this.
Yes, it exactly seems like they waited for artists' approval. Also most of them (even the classic ones) are dabbling in the occult so it would be only natural. Artists in general tend to think highly of themselves and believe that are more spiritual, enlightened and progressive, that's why many of them are in the occult. I even know people irl who are artists and they practice wicca,it seems to be a common denominator. In case of Bt€, they can gain more fame and recognition so it's a win-win. Connections are everything in any field.
As any other Hollywood artist, they want ro pretend they are intellectual and "deep" for the fans, while they aren't imo.
 






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Awesome!! I remember just now that you did mention where you are from, oops I forgot silly me. I am living in the West aka America.
Yes, it is getting so ridiculous for someone to put that much symbolism in a video for what? I do not think it is for the sake or art it must go deeper than that. Sympathy is a great way to manipulate fans especially at this time with their comeback. They can regain the love of those fans that were questioning their annoying actions on vacation.
V is a snob and he will always be one. He needs to sit down an be humble and not only talking about inside the subway.

BTW thanks for the lovely feedback on my comments. I appreciate it.
Haha it's ok, I tend to forget things all the time, especially if I have so much stuff to do, so I totally get you XD Ohh very nice, America is one continent I would very much like to come to, I always liked the landscapes and the sightseeings, it's so different from Europe :)
Exactly, even the Sm company, which is the most satanic of them, doesn't use that much symbolism. I believe that one main reason (except the obvious one) is that they want ro keep the fans busy and engage with them all day and all night. So Armiez become more obsessed than they already are. This is the greatest marketing strategy, no one tops them in the game.
Yes, you put it perfectly. Also, now that Ex0 has problems within their company, it's the perfect opportunity for them to cater to the Korean society and standards (eg humbleness etc) and become the nation's favorite group. Their company is too greedy to not grasp that chance. Also, Vee just happens to be in the subway, a fan takes a photo of him and Vee uploads it online? Why this specific pic? Yeah, they are truly trying hard to pass off as "everyday people". Koreans will love that, their mentality is that rich people should never show off/mention about their wealth. Yes, I think that when an idol is snobbish or fake, it always shows in a way or another, even if it's subtle, these people are not so good actors that they think. Of course I don't mean that all of them are, but in case they are, you can easily tell.
Also, no need to thank me love, I meant every word~
 






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