Signs of the hour / proofs of Islam

[AspiringSoul]

@pescatarian09 where is Mohammed then? I don't see him here.
Where is his hikmah? I see people Inc myself who are lost on various things. We know the fard but the sunnah is largely n/a now.

Where are your concubines mate? Where are your slaves, your sex slaves? Where are your mud/tent houses. How is war fought today?
I gave arguments but you chose to ignore them.

The verses you wrote were addresses to those whom they were given to directly first and foremost. In those verses the Muslims of that time/place who had the prophet amongst them were told to follow him.
Yet Muslims today think this means following hadith today in entirely different contexts. Even when many hadith are false and have no divine confirmation.

We read the Qur'an with some verses addressed to all of humanity. In the Qur'an sometimes the people of the book (at that time) were addressed. Yet you quote it all out of context like a fool as if it's written to you directly.

Throughout the Qur'an the word Hikmah is used and the word Arif/Marifa are used...people of knowledge, knowledge.
Knowledge is about absorbing contexts and understanding their place in time and the different ways the many prophets acted out if wisdom relevant to their time,place and context.
The Qur'an tells us to read the Torah and Gospel but you also diss the Qur'an by dissing them books. So contexts go out the window. You read hadith that have no divine confirmation that tell us Mohammed was having sex with a 9 yr old child.
No independent rational thinking of contexts.

Eg the hadith collections were all compiled by Persian imams. Why Persian? Because the Abbasids ruled from Persia so they got clever guys form their side of the street to push pro Abbasid hadith in opposition to the Shia camp
So Shia said Aisha was a total slag, shame on them, the Abbasids played the political came by pushing Aisha as a pure child bride.
Which imam/sheikh would present this argument to you? Yet it makes sense.

I'm not even dismissing all hadith. I'm arguing that they are historical sources of information with their own backstory.

You are want to read the Bible both the OT and NT too which have far more divine confirmation through a series of prophets right the way to Isa AS. Learn Jewish histkt and prophets, contexts etc.
That would help you understand your place today as a Muslim and where we stand.
Today the message in the NT of ISA AS is more relevant than the hadith.

If you fear corruption or confusion in this endeavour then pray to God to protect you and have honest intentions. When you die you have no one to blame but yourself if you had a poor understanding of history and contexts.
Dyor.

 

[A Freeman]

One very simple question, to ask of any and all that call themselves Muslims, if you please.

IF Abraham and Ishmael traveled from Jerusalem to Mecca, and allegedly built a physical temple there, why is there no mention of Mecca anywhere in the Bible, which the Koran (Quran) was sent to confirm?

Perhaps a follow-up question to that would be this: why did Saladin (Salah ad-Din) fight for control over Jerusalem please? It makes absolutely no sense unless Saladin knew that Jerusalem (City of Peace -- Sura 2:126) was the area where all of Abraham's children were born and raised (including Ishmael), and where Solomon's Temple (where animals were sacrificed -- Sura 5:3) was located.

 

[Daze]

One very simple question, to ask of any and all that call themselves Muslims, if you please.

IF Abraham and Ishmael traveled from Jerusalem to Mecca, and allegedly built a physical temple there, why is there no mention of Mecca anywhere in the Bible, which the Koran (Quran) was sent to confirm?

Perhaps a follow-up question to that would be this: why did Saladin (Salah ad-Din) fight for control over Jerusalem please? It makes absolutely no sense unless Saladin knew that Jerusalem (City of Peace -- Sura 2:126) was the area where all of Abraham's children were born and raised (including Ishmael), and where Solomon's Temple (where animals were sacrificed -- Sura 5:3) was located.

Do you really need to lower yourself to the other trolls in this thread? I mean you already have a thread filled with your doubts don't you?

All who can't be bothered to respect my wishes to stop with the derailing expect me to do the same in your threads.

 

[Vision]

Thank You and Jazak'Allah Khair for this fresh perspective on the signs OP!

It's scary that how many of them are essentially becoming true. Don't forget to prepare for the hereafter!

 

[A Freeman]

Do you really need to lower yourself to the other trolls in this thread? I mean you already have a thread filled with your doubts don't you?

All who can't be bothered to respect my wishes to stop with the derailing expect me to do the same in your threads.

How does it in anyway lower one or make them a troll to politely ask an honest question about the "proof" you are posting? Why not just answer the question honestly instead of pretending you're being "derailed" by a single post?

 

[TokiEl]

According to Christ there is no such thing as a priest, pastor, rabbi, imam, etc.

Matthew 23:8 BUT BE NOT YE CALLED PRIEST (rabbi, pastor, imam, etc.): for One is your Teacher, [even] Christ; and all ye are brethren.

Matthew 23 8But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers.



1 Peter 2 9But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession, to proclaim the virtues of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light.

 

[TokiEl]

Have you read this verse in Surah Maryam?
"And they say, "The Most Merciful has taken [for Himself] a son." (88) You have done an atrocious thing. (89) The heavens almost rupture therefrom and the earth splits open and the mountains collapse in devastation (90) That they attribute to the Most Merciful a son."

Matthew 3 13At that time Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to be baptized by John. 14But John tried to prevent Him, saying, “I need to be baptized by You, and do You come to me?”

15“Let it be so now,” Jesus replied. “It is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness in this way.” Then John permitted Him.

16As soon as Jesus was baptized, He went up out of the water. Suddenly the heavens were opened, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and resting on Him. 17And a voice from heaven said, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased!”

 

[TokiEl]

you'll be laugh some day when you know that all your religion is copy cat from Islam you still blind that's all

Im L0Ling now.

Fyi the Bible was written centuries before the quran.

 

[Daze]

A Believers suffering.


Have you heard of Rohingya Muslims?

Their citizenship revoked and being forced from their homeland.
Myanmar's military began a crackdown on them only a few years ago.

This village was destroyed in 2017.

Burma's war on Muslims
Date : August 25, 2017 – present

• Destruction of many villages
• Tens of thousands of people killed and raped
• 700,000+ refugees fled abroad

source

Have you heard about Kashmir's Muslim population?

For 2 years India placed Kashmir under house arrest cutting off their communications with the outside world.

Kashmir's silent suffering.
Kashmir placed on genocide watch.

Syria? Palestine? Yemen?
What about the Uighur?

There's an entire thread here dedicated to Uighers. Millions in concentration camps for no other reason then they say "Our Lord Is Allah"

Men are beaten because they have a beard. They are force fed if they attempt to fast. Forced to drink alcohol and eat pork.
Women are raped, their coverings removed, married off to non-Muslims while Islam forbids a Muslim woman to marry a non-Muslim.

Imagine the government taking your wife and giving her away in marriage to a stranger.

The Prophet (saw) said a day would come when holding on to ones religion would be like holding on to a hot stone.

Imagine that. If you have faith hanging on to it would be equivalent of sticking your hand into a fire, grabbing a piece of wood and hanging on to it.



Has this day not arrived?

Sadly for millions it has.


May the Almighty strengthen the believers and ease their suffering.

Indeed this life does not matter, it is merely a bus stop.

 

[A Freeman]

Matthew 23 8But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers.



1 Peter 2 9But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession, to proclaim the virtues of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light.

ONE Teacher doesn't leave any room for others.

ONE Teacher, ONE High-Priest, ONE Mediator, ONE Good Shepherd.

ONE MEANS ONE; it doesn't mean hundreds of thousands of priests, pastors, rabbis, imams, etc.

 

[TokiEl]

ONE Teacher doesn't leave any room for others.

ONE Teacher, ONE High-Priest, ONE Mediator, ONE Good Shepherd.

ONE MEANS ONE; it doesn't mean hundreds of thousands of priests, pastors, rabbis, imams, etc.

So sit down and shut up.L0L

 

[Daze]

Removal of modesty.


I was browsing earlier and i came across this post.


Utterly shameless, people advising others in the public sphere to cheat on their spouse. Where is their haya?


"Modesty" is kind of a joke in modern secular society. If you attempt to cover yourself, laws are made against it.


What an Orwellian world. Take off all the clothing you want, but if you attempt to cover yourself you might be breaking man's laws.


I think most believers realize a large part of feminism is getting woman to remove her clothing.

If you look at feminism's role the past 50 years the signs are clear. After all it started with the burning of the bra. Sure, many (here at least) will deny this and i find for the most part, they are atheist / agnostic. Not upon any Abrahamic direction. It's not worth debating, woman certainly wears less today then yesterday. The question is why?


We find ourselves living in a world where donkey's like the one pictured above are put into the spotlight. We live in a world where children get access to pornographic material by 7, 8 years of age. Even if you refuse to get your own child a cellphone guaranteed one of there friends has one. This even happens in madrasas today.

Modern day nude beaches are common across the globe.


Where does all of this lead? What kind of society do you think we are moving into when the above is becoming the every day norm?





This hasn't happened on my street, so its not wide spread yet. But it is happening today.








What do you think its gonna look like in 5 more years, 10? What will you do when you see this happening on your street?
The Prophet of Islam has never been wrong because he doesn't speak from himself. He has only revealed revelation from the Almighty.

Indeed the hour is close. When it strikes a woman who is carrying a child will have a miscarriage. A child's hair will literally turn grey. You can't fathom the horror.

 

[A Freeman]

Where in the Holy Koran (Quran) does it prophesy ANY of these things?

ALL of the prophecies about the end-times are to be found in the Holy Bible, in its Old Covenant and New Covenant, which the Koran (Quran) was sent to CONFIRM (Sura 2:97-98, 3:1-3, 4:47, 5:51, 6:92-94, 6:154-157, 10:37, 12:111, 22:52, 35:31, 46:12, 61:6-7).

Mohammad (peace be upon him) was only an Apostle/Messenger of God, like all the others that came before him. Of this there is NO doubt.

Sura 3:144. Muhammad is no more than an Apostle: many were the Apostles that passed away before him. If he died or were slain, will ye then turn back on your heels? If any did turn back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to God; but God (on the other hand) will swiftly reward those who (serve Him) with gratitude.

Sura 33:40. Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of "I AM", and the Seal of the Prophets*: and "I AM" has full knowledge of all things.

*CONFIRMING what the Prophets that came before him PROPHESIED

Sura 47:2. But those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, and believe in the (revelation) sent down to Muhammad - for it is the Truth from their Lord,- He (the Lord, NOT Muhammad) will remove from them their ills and improve their condition.

Sura 48:29. Muhammad is the Apostle of "I AM"; and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other. Thou wilt see them bow and prostrate themselves (in prayer), seeking Grace from "I AM" and (His) Good Pleasure. On their faces are their marks, (being) the traces of their prostration. This is their similitude in the Taurat (The Torah); and their similitude in The Gospel is: like a seed which sends forth its blade, then makes it strong; it then becomes thick, and it stands on its own stem, (filling) the sowers with wonder and delight (Matt. 13). As a result, it fills the Unbelievers with rage at them. "I AM" has promised those among them who believe and do righteous deeds Forgiveness, and a great Reward.

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The Bible prophesies that these end-times will be the worst oppression of all time which, without Divine intervention, would result in the total annihilation of mankind (Matt. 24:21-22). It prophesied in great detail the invasion of Kuwait, warns of the widespread confusion and coming food shortages (2 Esdras 5:9, 6:22) and even provides us with the specifics of how WW3 will start, with four specific countries in the Middle East (Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran) joining forces to weaken the U.S. and U.K., to prepare the way for Russia and China to defeat them.

https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/are-the-4-angels-bound-in-the-great-river-euphrates-about-to-be-loosed.6912/

This is exactly why God, in the Koran (Quran) COMMANDS us to read The Law and the Gospel (found only in the Bible), and promises us that the Bible could NEVER be corrupted (Sura 15:9-10) and thus no one should be in doubt of it reaching them (Sura 32:23).

The proof of God and the signs of the times are found in His Holy Bible, which includes the Old Covenant, New Covenant and the Koran (Quran - Sura 9:111) which CONDEMNS Mohammedanism (aka "Islam") and all other organized religions, with their silly superstitions and made-up "traditions".

Anyone who doesn't turn away from Lucifer/Satan/Iblis and his organized religions back to God and His Perfect Law of Liberty will burn, exactly as we are warned repeatedly throughout the Old Covenant, New Covenant and Koran (Quran).

 

[ahmedrayiidissack]

If God Wills, peace exists.

 

[Daze]

Death Wish


Past year the global lock downs have sent the suicide rate soaring.




One would think this is a recent phenomenon due to the forced isolation.

However, Japan, who never locked down because they were desperate to keep the Olympics shows the death of a small city every year.




Why are so many looking for their demise?



Perhaps you've heard of the American soldier suicide rate. I think it was 21 a day? They actually ran campaigns trying to stop it like it was some kind of epidemic.

Sure, a soldier see's alot of atrocities that could explain a desire for death. As it is many soldiers take a daily pharmaceutical cocktail just to function. Perhaps that is part of the problem?

Big pharma does not seek to cure, only in the treatment is there profit. With this in mind many Americans today take medication to deal with depression. I've seen it in my own family. Whether western medicine improves things one can only guess as its clear to see today many doctors are corrupt and get kickbacks from Big pharma for every script they write.


Is there anyone in your family who deals with depression?

According to statistics it affects 17 million Americans annually.
Nation wide its a small percentage but still 17 million people is a massive number.


Perhaps it has something to do with a disconnection from God?

As the Quran says it is in the remembrance of God where the heart finds rest. (13:28 Quran)



Perhaps you have heard of Dr Kevorkian?


He was an American pathologist and euthanasia proponent. He publicly championed a terminal patient's right to die by physician-assisted suicide. Kevorkian said that he assisted at least 130 patients to that end. He was convicted of murder in 1999 and was often portrayed in the media with the name of "Dr. Death".




Whatever the case may be, many today have lost the desire for life. Young and old, sick and healthy. Rich and poor. More then a few people just want out.

You yourself might be happy go lucky with a real zest for life. The worlds literally your oyster with doors opening everywhere you turn. You're probably asking yourself what is the point of all of this "doom and gloom"?

Did you know the Prophet of Islam (saw) predicted this would happen back in the 7th century?




As a side note... Whats interesting (to me at least) is my dad used to tell me this when i was a child. That things were gonna get so bad that man would envy the one whose already in the grave. I must of been 8, 10 years old at the time. Somewhere around there, decades back.

While today both of my parents have already passed on, neither was Muslim. My father actually never heard of Islam in any way, shape or form.

While some are desperate to separate God the Father from Allah, the religions are clearly linked.
After all "Allah" (الله) is everywhere in the Arabic Bible because Allah literally means "thee God".


(source)

There is only one Creator and there will only ever be one Creator.
May He lead us all to the path that is the most pleasing to Him.

 

[Tidal]

Allah is God the father as they are one and the same. I've said this multiple times.

The Christian God and the Muslim God say completely different things, so they can't be the same God..

 

[Daze]

The Christian God and the Muslim God say completely different things, so they can't be the same God..

Give me an example Tidal.

 

[Alanantic]

You people seem to have a problem defining God. Maybe the Hindus can help:

"3. God is endless above and below the universe. There is no place, or even the smallest particle that it does not permeate.
4. God permeates all of the water, land, wood, and stone. Not a single being is without it.
5. Just as water is in and around water animals, in the same way, this pure God is in and around all living beings.
6. However, this simile with water is not entirely appropriate, because there are dry places which exist apart from water, while it is not possible that anyone can ever go outside of God.
7. If one tries to run outside of the sky, it is not possible because the sky is always found in front of us. Similarly, there is no end to the endless God.
8. But even though it is only God that we meet continuously, it is inseparable from the body, and though it is what is closest to everyone, it is also hidden.
9. One exists within it but does not know it. One imagines to have understood it, but really the Absolute Reality cannot be understood."

Dasbodh Chapter: 7,Sub-Chapter: 4

 

[Tidal]

The Christian God and the Muslim God say completely different things, so they can't be the same God..

Give me an example Tidal.

Jesus said "I only say what God tells me to say", and went on to preach that we should just chill and let God himself punish people.
But Allah says-
[Koran 9.123] "O you who believe! fight those of the infidels who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard against evil"
[Koran 5.51] "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends, they are friends of each other"

In fact there's an english schoolteacher in the news right now who's been suspended for showing his class a picture of Mohammed, and naturally the muslim community are rocking and rolling and baying for his blood.

Teacher suspended over Mohammed cartoon 'defends actions in call with parent'

THE TEACHER suspended over a cartoon of the Prophet Muhammad allegedly “defended his right to freedom of speech” in a heated phone call with a Muslim pupil’s father. Reports claim…

www.thesun.co.uk

 

[Tidal]

You people seem to have a problem defining God. Maybe the Hindus can help...

Hinduism is rotten to the core, even the "great" Gandhi never tried to get rid of their wretched caste system-