The TRUE BIBLICAL TRUTH; Esau will fall, Jacob will rise

[Lyfe]

So I guess you can’t point to the Israel & Judah today who supposedly has the laws within ?? Thanks for at least trying to respond I guess.

They cant keep the law and neither can you. Its as I stated you cant separate the law from the temple, feasts, priesthood, and sacrificial ordinances. Its impossible to keep the law without these things as they are inextricably tied and unmoved from the law of the old covenant. If God intended the old covenant to be adhered to he would still provide a means for these things, but he hasnt, because the old covenant is done with.

 

[lightseeker]

I think we’ve come to the crux of the disucsssion here. Judaism and Christianity, in their forms not essence, are diametrically opposite. Judaism diverted to a satanic religion of racism and hypocracy, therefore Jesus came to bring them to the right path. When they murdered him, they defined their path towards evil. Km and yahda are correct in saying that they cannot accept Jesus Christ the saviour. The elders of their temple couldn’t either 2000 years ago because they listen to their Father, the father of all lies, Satan.

 

[LittleLady]

@LittleLady- Considering you still follow christ you may as well have remained a Christian. Which is simply a follower of christ teachings. In order to be considered a Hebrew you must follow God or at least those called by his name.

ObidiYAH
JeremiYAH
Hosea-YAH
YAHcoub (Jacob)
Yahshuah ( JOSHUA)
ZephaniYAH
ZachariYAH
DaniEL
MichaEL
JoEL
EzekiEL
SamuEL

etc...

So are you going to follow our prophets those called by his name ??? OR are you going to follow

peter
Paul
John
Mark
Luke.....

like seriously get a clue lol. I say that in the nicest way possible.

Why would I follow my own brothers as if they created me and are my savior? That is reserved for God and his son only. Are you telling me that you follow human beings?

 

[KoncreteMind]

Jesus is introduced in the NT, those verses are events that happened in the OT so of course, nothing was said about Jesus during that time.

Deuteronomy 31:26
“Take this Book of Instruction and place it beside the Ark of the Covenant of the LORD your God, so it may remain there as a witness against the people of Israel.

Isaiah 8:20
To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

If God had wanted Israel to put their faith in a jesus like you do, He would have said so to one of His prophets. He would have put it in His law that was a witness against them. Yet He didnt. And it being "a new age/time" doesnt mean we accept new prophets/figureheads into the faith. Im talking about Israel though. When you started talking about Native Americans/Mexicans/anyone can be an Israelite, I knew for sure you just started your journey. Whether its sincere or not, is between you and the Creator. But hopefully you keep going and ultimately STUDY FOR YOURSELF. Because no, you havent read the bible front to back...

And the rest of your posts/responses to me are just you saying you don't accept Jesus as your savior, when God himself wants his people to, so that they can then follow his laws. I guess you aren't one of Gods people then.

No point in conversing with you anymore. I'm not about to get constant headaches by someone who disagrees with the truth. Have a great day.

As Yahda already said, only the God of Israel is the savior. You can ignore that if you want but you got one thing right. Im not one of your god's people. We cant have anything to do with a jesus since our ancestors didnt...

 

[Lyfe]

The Israelites are still cursed to this day, the ONLY reason being because they didn't keep the law. Unless you keep the law, your curses will continue and then you're going to be part of the 2/3 that Jesus kills when he returns.

You have your interpretation, and I have what God literally told me, so we're just not going to agree with each other...ever I suppose.

You are deceiving and being deceived. You are teaching unbiblical things and holding your personal self professed revelations above the word of God and that is how false cults like the Mormons and JW's start. If it doesnt align with the word of God then who you are hearing from is not God. Christians here have pointed out your false teachings using scripture. You are not chosen by God to spread false theologies that clearly go against the word of God.

 

[Yahda]

All of those verses are from the OT, and guess what? Jesus was in the NT! So those "points" of yours are already invalid. The idea of God wanting to give grace unto his people came to be in the NT, so that was when everything from there progressed.

"Jesus is God in the flesh lolll so I guess God died for 3 days, smh!"

Okay, so num.1 you mocked him.
Num.2 I told you our human brains can't comprehend everything about God. You just want to know everything, all while leaning on your own understanding. God is God, we are mere humans, we can't get the 100% accurate answers all the time. Stop trying to question God all while mocking him, and just make sure you repent, and abide by his laws.

In fact, you can't even be considered one of his people UNTIL you repent. You can't follow his laws without first admitting your faults and believing that he sent his son for the purposes of giving you grace. That is why Jesus said you can't go to the father UNTIL you get to Jesus.

So I guess I was wrong about you. It doesn't seem like you're an Israelite. You're a confused being.

To break it down to the simplest terms I always use this example:

The dog can run. Simple sentence right ?

THERE IS NO SAVIOR ? Easy to understand right.

THERE IS NO GOD BESIDES ME. Again simple.

You don’t get to the mystery magic & teachings until you get to the New Testament.

In the New Testament, The dog can run can mean....a purple dragon fell out of the sky with a blue leprechaun...

In the OT God meant what he said. Simple. Follow the commands. THERE IS NO SAVIOR. NO MAN CAN DIE FOR YOUR SINS.....This isn’t the mysteries Christians are use to in their book of magic the goSPELLS. Simple 3-4 word sentences. Come on people DAMN!!

Break the spell ! You can do it I’m rooting for you. Our God is great and worthy of ALL TOTAL & PRAISE ALONE. Jesus/other gods shouldn’t even exit your mouth according to scripture.

 

[Yahda]

Why would I follow my own brothers as if they created me and are my savior? That is reserved for God and his son only. Are you telling me that you follow human beings?

Don’t act like you didn’t noticed the striking differences in prophets EL’s & YAHS

to Peter John, Paul....lollol. Let’s not scadaddle past that, but ok.

 

[Yahda]

They cant keep the law and neither can you. Its as I stated you cant separate the law from the temple, feasts, priesthood, and sacrificial ordinances. Its impossible to keep the law without these things as they are inextricably tied and unmoved from the law of the old covenant. If God intended the old covenant to be adhered to he would still provide a means for these things, but he hasnt, because the old covenant is done with.

NO. Let’s stay on topic. God said that with the new covenant he would put the laws within.


You can’t have it both ways. You can’t say one minute we are under the new covenant where the law will be placed within. Only to turn around and say we can’t keep the law.

I’m confused....NOT. I left Christianity long ago and the confusion left right along with it. THANK GOD!!!

 

[lightseeker]

I wonder what these fake Hebrews will say about the fact that God in their religion is a plural word, elohim. And there are dozens of different names for different aspects of God. YHVH, YHVH Elohim, Elohim shadai, elohim sabaoth, eloah (feminine word), ehieh.. Christ is an aspect of the one God, but you satanic Jew hypocrites are blinded by your pride. Jesus Christ was prophecied throughout the Old Testament, and fulfilled the prophecies to the letter.

you are nothing but the modern Pharisees, following the elders of the temple who’s misinterpretation of Moses‘ teachings which put the messiah to death, end of story bruvs

 

[Yahda]

I don’t think any Hebrew here is ok with being associated with Jews when there is no such thing. It’s JUDAH so the Jew thing is a deception in itself.

Nor do I think any of the Hebrews here want to be associated with the Jews of the synagogue of Satan. Those who say they are “Jews”(what ever that is). Nor do any of us read the raggedy satanic Talmud, but I’ll digress and speak for myself.

 

[Tidal]

Incidentally, why don't jews believe their own Old T prophets who foretold the arrival of Jesus?
For example-

The Messiah would be born in Bethlehem - fulfilled
"But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times." (Micah 5:2)

The Messiah would be silent before His accusers - fulfilled
"He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth" (Isaiah 53:7).

The Messiah would be flogged and spit on - fulfilled
"I offered my back to those who beat me, my cheeks to those who pulled out my beard, I did not hide my face from mocking and spitting" (Isaiah 50:6)

The Messiah would suffer nails and spearthrust - fulfilled
".. he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed" (Isaiah 53:5)

The Messiah would be crucified with thieves - fulfilled
"..he poured out his life unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors. For he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors" (Isaiah 53:12)

The betrayal money would be thrown in the temple for a potters field - fulfilled
"Throw it to the potter- the handsome price at which they priced me. So I took the thirty pieces of silver and threw them into the house of the Lord to the potter" (Zech 11:13)

The Messiah would enter Jerusalem on a donkey - fulfilled
"Shout, Daughter of Jerusalem! See, your king comes to you, righteous and having salvation, gentle and riding on a donkey.." (Zech 9:9)

 

[lightseeker]

I don’t think any Hebrew here is ok with being associated with Jews when there is no such thing. It’s JUDAH so the Jew thing is a deception in itself.

Nor do I think any of the Hebrews here want to be associated with the Jews of the synagogue of Satan. Those who say they are “Jews”(what ever that is). Nor do any of us read the raggedy satanic Talmud, but I’ll digress and speak for myself.

Lol scramble some more it’s funny.

 

[Yahda]

Lol scramble some more it’s funny.

What part was funny ? That there is no such thing as a Jew it’s Judah ?

or was the synagogue of Satan part funny ? Lol!

 

[lightseeker]

What part was funny ? That there is no such thing as a Jew it’s Judah ?

or was the synagogue of Satan part funny ? Lol!

No it was funny how you didn’t try to address my points and instead tried to distance yourself from the Jews, though you claim to be one. Seriously humorous.

My points still stand and as far as I am concerned you don’t have a leg to stand on so have fallen back on the only thing you have, hypocritical justification through theorizing about race and blood.

 

[Yahda]

No it was funny how you didn’t try to address my points and instead tried to distance yourself from the Jews, though you claim to be one. Seriously humorous.

My points still stand and as far as I am concerned you don’t have a leg to stand on so have fallen back on the only thing you have, hypocritical justification through theorizing about race and blood.

Jews or JUDAH ?? Let’s clear that up now???

 

[Yahda]

No it was funny how you didn’t try to address my points and instead tried to distance yourself from the Jews, though you claim to be one. Seriously humorous.

My points still stand and as far as I am concerned you don’t have a leg to stand on so have fallen back on the only thing you have, hypocritical justification through theorizing about race and blood.

Btw I don’t think you want to get into the els & elohims....it will only get worse for you going back to Genesis. Then we got to talk about who they ELS CREATED & who God formed from the dust & placed in the garden. This thread will only get more disrespectful lololololol....No I can’t. Not today. I ignored you for a reason. For your own good.

 

[lightseeker]

Jews or JUDAH ?? Let’s clear that up now???

The modern Judaic religion and its proponents

Btw I don’t think you want to get into the els & elohims....it will only get worse for you going back to Genesis. Then we got to talk about who they ELS CREATED & who God formed from the dust & placed in the garden. This thread will only get more disrespectful lololololol....No I can’t. Not today. I ignored you for a reason. For your own good.

Great so my point stands STILL, damn this is a slaughtering

 

[Yahda]

The modern Judaic religion and its proponents

Great so my point stands STILL, damn this is a slaughtering

Christians obviously can’t even understand their own book. The last thing anyone would ever believe is that a Christian slaughtered anything that has to do with scripture. Let’s be honest! Like for real for real.

 

[lightseeker]

Christians obviously can’t even understand their own book. The last thing anyone would ever believe is that a Christian slaughtered anything that has to do with scripture. Let’s be honest! Like for real for real.

You made 5 posts since my initial argument and have attempted different ways to not address it. You are embarrassing yourself

 

[Yahda]

@lightseeker As I have said in the past. Christian OP’s are 1000 plus pages long. Everything is up for argument. We have Christian OP that have went on for years and still going, but you expect anyone to believe you slaughtered using scripture?????? Thank for bringing the humor. The proof is in the pudding aka all the endless Christian op’s where they are still arguing among themselves.