The TRUE BIBLICAL TRUTH; Esau will fall, Jacob will rise

[DavidSon]

...Hopefully you get there too. Because as of right now, you're just a hebrew christialite. And thats not going to save you...

I know you don't affiliate with any of the Black Hebrew Israelites but IMO it's worth recognizing several of the groups do acknowledge Jesus. Your stance of revering only the OT is sensible but alternatives are not unheard of.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hebrew_Israelites

 

[LittleLady]

What is a Jew ? Do you mean JUDAH ? You won’t even respectfully acknowledge me ! Anyway you win the imaginary prize! Congratulations.

Gods elect are Jews;Israelites;Jacob that come from the 12 Tribes of Israel. And for our sake, please remain mature and refrain from being sarcastic and playful, because this is a serious topic.

 

[Artful Revealer]

I think we’ve come to the crux of the disucsssion here. Judaism and Christianity, in their forms not essence, are diametrically opposite. Judaism diverted to a satanic religion of racism and hypocracy, therefore Jesus came to bring them to the right path. When they murdered him, they defined their path towards evil. Km and yahda are correct in saying that they cannot accept Jesus Christ the saviour. The elders of their temple couldn’t either 2000 years ago because they listen to their Father, the father of all lies, Satan.

I've come to a better understanding of Divine Providence, at least I think, that it basically refers to God interfering in human history to turn evil into something good.

So too could this evil propagated by those easily swayed to accept pre-Christian Israelite tribalism, be turned into a greater awakening of actual Christians recognizing the Old Testament for what it is, ie. Judaic and not Christian; tribalist and not universal; defiling and not redemptive; inciting vengeance and not forgiveness; hateful and not loving.

Maybe the world needs a new form if Israelism to bring about this awareness.

 

[Yahda]

Gods elect are Jews;Israelites;Jacob that come from the 12 Tribes of Israel. And for our sake, please remain mature and refrain from being sarcastic and playful, because this is a serious topic.

How am I being sarcastic when a Jew was NEVER apart of the 12 tribes ??? It’s Judah not that jew crap. That’s why I said in stead of arguing back and forth with me you need to go read the book.

 

[Artful Revealer]

I don’t think any Hebrew here is ok with being associated with Jews when there is no such thing. It’s JUDAH so the Jew thing is a deception in itself.

Nor do I think any of the Hebrews here want to be associated with the Jews of the synagogue of Satan. Those who say they are “Jews”(what ever that is). Nor do any of us read the raggedy satanic Talmud, but I’ll digress and speak for myself.

Being a Judaean prior to the post-Christian concept of Jew, referred to a nationality. All nationalities had their patron deity and their own myths. Judaean or Israelite was never a theological construct until a segment of them rejected Christ.

 

[Yahda]

Gods elect are Jews;Israelites;Jacob that come from the 12 Tribes of Israel. And for our sake, please remain mature and refrain from being sarcastic and playful, because this is a serious topic.

Even your book the NT insists that the Jews are of the synagogue of Satan I mean damn now. Come on !!

 

[lightseeker]

I've come to a better understanding of Divine Providence, at least I think, that it basically refers to God interfering in human history to turn evil into something good.

So too could this evil propagated by those easily swayed to accept pre-Christian Israelite tribalism, be turned into a greater awakening of actual Christians recognizing the Old Testament for what it is, ie. Judaic and not Christian; tribalist and not universal; defiling and not redemptive; inciting vengeance and not forgiveness; hateful and not loving.

Maybe the world needs a new form if Israelism to bring about this awareness.

that’s an interesting perspective. I agree that God can transform evil into good, like Jesus Christ being crucified, the greatest evil, was used for, or became, the highest good.
Also I agree that it is easier to spot the evil within this form of judaism, because it is people choosing it for its darkest aspects, as you cited and therefore they are exaggerated. Although it is often funny at first glance like in this video

when you really get into it you realize it’s pretty evil like the Pharisees

 

[LittleLady]

Even your book the NT insists that the Jews are of the synagogue of Satan I mean damn now. Come on !!

Even "your" Book? I guess the Bible just isn't meant for you then. The fake Jews are the synagogue of satan, not the real Jews. The real Jews belong to God.

 

[Yahda]

Even "your" Book? I guess the Bible just isn't meant for you then. The fake Jews are the synagogue of satan, not the real Jews. The real Jews belong to God.

JUDAH

 

[Artful Revealer]

that’s an interesting perspective. I agree that God can transform evil into good, like Jesus Christ being crucified, the greatest evil, was used for, or became, the highest good.
Also I agree that it is easier to spot the evil within this form of judaism, because it is people choosing it for its darkest aspects, as you cited and therefore they are exaggerated. Although it is often funny at first glance like in this video

when you really get into it you realize it’s pretty evil like the Pharisees

I'm suddenly all in favour for repatriating Black Hebrew Israelites to the Promised Land and let them battle it out with the Jews.

 

[lightseeker]

I'm suddenly all in favour for repatriating Black Hebrew Israelites to the Promised Land and let them battle it out with the Jews.

That’s so crazy it just might work

 

[LittleLady]

JUDAH

Judah is one of the Tribes of Israel, and mind you, that's also the Tribe Jesus himself is from.

 

[Yahda]

Judah is one of the Tribes of Israel, and mind you, that's also the Tribe Jesus himself is from.

A Jew is not of the 12 tribes but JUDAH is which is the point I was making. With that being said if you want to follow “the bright morning star” as he called himself in revelations be my guest.

In the words of Joshua 24: If you wanna follow other gods do that, BUT FOR ME & my household we will follow The Most High God. Do you.

 

[Helioform]

Esau was perhaps white, but Jacob might have been more of a light brown skin as are most semites. Not black or even dark brown.

But that is completely irrelevant anyway since God hated Esau not because of his skin colour but because of things like he was willing to sell his birthright for a bowl of stew. His actions alone were judged and you simply can't blame all of his descendants for HIS behaviour. That is just completely wrong and by that logic we would all be the "devil" due to the fact that Adam and Eve sinned.

I am starting to wonder if the BLM spirit is trying to make its way here with threads like these...

 

[LittleLady]

A Jew is not of the 12 tribes but JUDAH is which is the point I was making. With that being said if you want to follow “the bright morning star” as he called himself in revelations be my guest.

In the words of Joshua 24: If you wanna follow other gods do that, BUT FOR ME & my household we will follow The Most High God. Do you.

The bright morning star is lucifer, and Judah is not associated with lucifer, Esau is. Jesus is the son of God, and the King of Israel, and I am also from the Tribe of Judah, and as you can see, all of us aren't luciferians. You're highly in denial with that one. If there's nothing I can do, even if I provide verses to debunk your claim, and you STILL can't see it, then oh well. Stay blind then, because I can't say anymore.

Yes, I too worship God, and follow Jesus. You don't follow Jesus meaning you don't repent, that means you're either lukewarm, or you're just not going to make it in the end. I can't tell you anything else since you're stiff-necked.

 

[Yahda]

The bright morning star is lucifer, and Judah is not associated with lucifer, Esau is. Jesus is the son of God, and the King of Israel, and I am also from the Tribe of Judah, and as you can see, all of us aren't luciferians. You're highly in denial with that one. If there's nothing I can do, even if I provide verses to debunk your claim, and you STILL can't see it, then oh well. Stay blind then, because I can't say anymore.

Yes, I too worship God, and follow Jesus. You don't follow Jesus meaning you don't repent, that means you're either lukewarm, or you're just not going to make it in the end. I can't tell you anything else since you're stiff-necked.

Revelations 22 "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star."

What did you say again? That the Lucifer is the bright morning star??? Didn’t Jesus say he was the bright morning star ??


Can you repeat that ? Lol.

But in all seriousness I ask that we can end this on a peaceful note. May God bless you and open your eyes to the truth.

 

[Yahda]

For the record I don’t deal with BLM or black street Hebrew clowns. I probably like Christians more than those I mentioned. I just wanted to put that out there.

 

[LittleLady]

Esau was perhaps white, but Jacob might have been more of a light brown skin as are most semites. Not black or even dark brown.

But that is completely irrelevant anyway since God hated Esau not because of his skin colour but because of things like he was willing to sell his birthright for a bowl of stew. His actions alone were judged and you simply can't blame all of his descendants for HIS behaviour. That is just completely wrong and by that logic we would all be the "devil" due to the fact that Adam and Eve sinned.

I am starting to wonder if the BLM spirit is trying to make its way here with threads like these...

I'm not even with the BLM movement, and I"M BLACK! There's too much lgbtq spirits associated with it, so I'm through with that.

Well, those verses I provided talking about Jesus not only killing 2/3 of the Israelites, but also killing ALL of Esau...well if God says it happens, it's going to happen. I don't know what else to tell you. I personally wouldn't walk around assuming every White person has a wicked personality, but if they are from Esau then...it is what it is.

I still hold on to the belief that very few Whites will make it, but since God says that Jesus will slaughter ALL of Esau, I really don't know.

Well, I could blame the majority of the Edomites because look who's first! Look, the only point of Esau being made was to punish the Israelites for their rebellion, and that's it. God openly claimed he hates Esau, so please don't be angry with me, I didn't make that choice. That was God, yeah, when I found all of this out, I was suspicious too, but then I just started accepting it. Esau was intentionally made to be evil, and during the Millennium, he will be destroyed. I really don't know what else to say.

 

[LittleLady]

Revelations 22 "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star."

What did you say again? That the Lucifer is the bright morning star??? Didn’t Jesus say he was the bright morning star ??


Can you repeat that ? Lol.

But in all seriousness I ask that we can end this on a peaceful note. May God bless you and open your eyes to the truth.

Jesus is described as the bright morning star in the sense that he brings grace. satan is also described as the bright morning star in the sense that he deceives. He appears as an angel of light, but he is truly the father of lies. There's a difference.

"What did you say again? Can you repeat that? LOL" Yeah, you're pretty immature. Let's end this as you recommended.

 

[Yahda]

Jesus is described as the bright morning star in the sense that he brings grace. satan is also described as the bright morning star in the sense that he deceives. He appears as an angel of light, but he is truly the father of lies. There's a difference.

"What did you say again? Can you repeat that? LOL" Yeah, you're pretty immature. Let's end this as you recommended.

Going back to one of my previous post 546 this is a perfect example of what I was talking about.

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To break it down to the simplest terms I always use this example:

The dog can run. Simple sentence right ?

THERE IS NO SAVIOR ? Easy to understand right.

THERE IS NO GOD BESIDES ME. Again simple.

You don’t get to the mystery magic & teachings until you get to the New Testament.

In the New Testament, The dog can run can mean....a purple dragon fell out of the sky with a blue leprechaun...

Lucifer is the bright morning star right ?

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Jesus is also “the bright morning star”
simple sentence easy to understand right ?
NO! Not in Christian land. He wasn’t saying he was the bright morning star per say what had happened was......... lol. You all and these mysterious teachings smh !