The TRUE BIBLICAL TRUTH; Esau will fall, Jacob will rise

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Greetings. Some of you may have seen my old thread about the Israelites, some of you probably haven't, but this topic has everything to do with the Israelites, so before starting the original discussion, I'll give you a brief description about the Israelites if you aren't aware.

Brief description of the Israelites.

The Israelites are the only ones Jesus offered salvation to. NOT the entire world. I know some of y'all are gonna quote, "But John 3:16 says, "For God so loved the WORLD-" Let me stop you right there. How come you guys can only quote that specific part of John? Because if you read the verses before that, you would know Jesus is talking to an Israelite. Jesus- (I will now start referring to him as Yeshua as that is his Hebrew name) is from the Tribe of Judah, so it's an Israelite conversing with an Israelite. This Israelite he is talking to asks how can one get into the kingdom of God. When Yeshua says, "The world", he is referring to his group of people; the Israelites that are WITHIN the world.

Here's an example: I am at home with 3 of my family members. I tell them, "We should all go to the store." By, "all" I don't mean the whole world, I mean just my family members and I. Due to translations, it seems to appear that he's talking about the whole world, but he isn't.
One more thing: Not ALL Israelites will be saved. It's only those God chooses. It's also not just us from the world as of now, it's people he chose since the beginning of the world via Elijah, Moses, Abraham, his disciples, etc etc.

Now, let's get to the original topic.

Esau. He is the fraternal twin of Jacob. Esau is basically the White Man, and Jacob is Black. Now, let's look at what God says. Romans 9:13 "For Esau I have hated, but Jacob I love." He hates the White Man. Why? Because he knows what he will do to his people. This is all associated with slavery too. Not only can you find mentions of Gods people being enslaved, but you can also find that in history itself. If you would like to really dive in deep with this topic, you should go and read Deuteronomy.

And I really don't mean to sound prideful when I say this, but God only loves his people. He does NOT love the whole world nor are we equal BECAUSE of what Esau did. You see all of these rich European Nations? They're only rich because they got our (I'm an African American, so if I say "our" I'm talking about my people) resources.

France stole a lot of artwork (paintings, sculptures, statues, etc) from us. Germany colonized different parts of Africa. BRITIAN...y'all wanna talk about THIEVES? Because they are likely NUMBER ONE ON THE THIEVERY AND COLONIZATION LIST. Spain and Portugal are next. They conquered South America, got almost everyone to forcefully learn Spanish, meaning that the majority of people over there originally do not speak Spanish nor are their Spanish names really theirs. Now, when it comes to my people, (people of color) all European Nations messed up, and places from the Middle East, and also China and Japan. These Nations will suffer.

How does one know they're an Israelite?

Those were some examples of what happened. Now I'm going to talk about the Israelites in general which won't be that long. How does one know if they're an Israelite? Well, this mostly focuses on bloodlines. If you are a person of color, or a White-passing person, and you are suffering with the curses that God put upon the Israelites for their rebellion back then, you would know you're one. Even if you don't know what tribe you're from, you're definitely an Israelite. You would have to read Deuteronomy and figure out if those curses align with you and your family. One of the curses is Gods people not being accepted, and being seen by other Nations in awe. You see how people of color especially Black people are not accepted nowadays AND back in the days? Do you also notice the BLM has people looking at Black people in awe like, "WOW! Y'all had to go through this and that?"

By the way, I just want to point out that Israelites are spread among the Nations due to Esau, so if any of you give me that one verse saying that Yeshua offered salvation to the Gentiles, he means he's offering salvation to his people WITHIN other Nations. That's what the word "Gentile" means, it's a synonym for "Nations" and due to the past, we are all mixed up everywhere. We aren't all just in one place where people can easily identify you. Now I'm going to be talking about the fall of Esau and the rise of Jacob.

Fall of Esau; Revenge

During the Millennium- people think when Yeshua comes back, he and his people will mourn at the fact that there's many lost souls. Scratch that! We're not doing that. There is absolutely no reason for Gods people to be mourning over anyone else, God chose them, it is what it is. And if God chose his people, then what is the point of mourning over anyone else? There is no point. Not only that, but this will be a time of justice and vengeance, so mourning is way out of the subject. What we'll be doing is taking back our place. We were supposed to be first, Esau took our place, and now we're getting it back hence,

Obadiah 1:18 "Jacob will be a fire and Joseph a flame; Esau will be stubble, and they will set him on fire and destroy him. There will be no survivors from Esau." The LORD has spoken." So because of what the Europeans have done to Gods people; Jacob, they will pay the price. They will ALL get slaughtered by Yeshua AND his people.

Obadiah 1:8-10 "On that day I will destroy the wise people in Edom and take wisdom away from Esau's mountain," declares the LORD. Teman, your warriors will be terrified. Everyone on Esau's mountain will be slaughtered. "Because of the violence you did to Jacob, your relative, you will be covered with shame. You will be destroyed forever."

In Short....


The Europeans currently rule the world, they're STILL killing Jacob to this day, they own basically everything, they have all of Jacobs resources, they enslaved Jacob, tortured him, raped him, killed his children, and the BLM movement is simply a distraction, but also a prophecy. The MAJORITY of Europeans really do have a natural hatred for Jacob. Jacob was supposed to be first, but Esau is currently first. Due to all of these things, we will become first during the Millennium and on the New Earth as well. Esau will meet a terrible fate.

And this is what the Bible is TRULY about. Gods people taking their original place. It is not a, "Just repent, and seek the Lord, anyone can-" No.

So if anyone here is an Israelite, and God has personally told you that you were one of the chosen, you should rejoice.

IMPORTANT EDIT! MUST READ!

2/3 of the Israelites will be wiped out. Make sure you pray, and fear the Lord, and abide by his laws. All of Esau will be wiped out. Do not be associated with them for your sake. I had made an edit before saying 2/3 of Esau would die, but I was being confused by other people here. ALL of Esau will perish, and 2/3 of Israelites will join them. Only 1/3 of Israelites are Gods chosen. QUICKLY, get right with God!

Do not only follow 10 commandments, try to the best of your ability to do as much of his laws as possible which are 613 laws, and don't try to do them just to be saved, do them because you sincerely love God and want to show him by obeying his laws. Yeshua never said to stop following his laws, he said we are under grace meaning whenever we sin, we can repent and that IS IT!

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The Israelites are the only ones Jesus offered salvation to. NOT the entire world..

Whoa baby, check this-
Jesus said- “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.....And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations" (Mark 16:15, Matt 24:14)

Anyway the jews rejected his offer of salvation and killed him, so they're going up the spout and have got as much chance of getting through the pearlies as a Barry Manilow fan has of gatecrashing an Elvis convention..:)

"How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot....it is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God" (Hebrews 10:29-31)
 






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..One more thing: Not ALL Israelites will be saved. It's only those God chooses.

If any Israelites are Christians, yes they'll be saved, but the rest will be going down this road along with all other Jesus-rejecters the world over, it's not rocket science..:)-

 






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..So if anyone here is an Israelite, and God has personally told you that you were one of the chosen, you should rejoice.

Sure, they were God's chosen people in ancient times, but only because they were the best of a bad bunch because they were relatively civilised compared to the heathen tribes, and he knew his Son would have a better chance of surviving in Israel than anywhere else when he sent him to earth.
I mean, if Jesus had been sent to North America they'd have scalped him in 5 minutes flat, and if sent to Afica they'd have bunged him straight in the cookpot.
At least in Israel he had a good 3-year run before they killed him, and they've carried on hating him ever since, so if the jews are STILL God's chosen people, I'm Mary Poppins..:)
 






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Greetings. Some of you may have seen my old thread about the Israelites, some of you probably haven't, but this topic has everything to do with the Israelites, so before starting the original discussion, I'll give you a brief description about the Israelites if you aren't aware.

Brief description of the Israelites.

The Israelites are the only ones Jesus offered salvation to. NOT the entire world. I know some of y'all are gonna quote, "But John 3:16 says, "For God so loved the WORLD-" Let me stop you right there. How come you guys can only quote that specific part of John? Because if you read the verses before that, you would know Jesus is talking to an Israelite. Jesus- (I will now start referring to him as Yeshua as that is his Hebrew name) is from the Tribe of Judah, so it's an Israelite conversing with an Israelite. This Israelite he is talking to asks how can one get into the kingdom of God. When Yeshua says, "The world", he is referring to his group of people; the Israelites that are WITHIN the world.

Here's an example: I am at home with 3 of my family members. I tell them, "We should all go to the store." By, "all" I don't mean the whole world, I mean just my family members and I. Due to translations, it seems to appear that he's talking about the whole world, but he isn't.
One more thing: Not ALL Israelites will be saved. It's only those God chooses. It's also not just us from the world as of now, it's people he chose since the beginning of the world via Elijah, Moses, Abraham, his disciples, etc etc.

Now, let's get to the original topic.

Esau. He is the fraternal twin of Jacob. Esau is basically the White Man, and Jacob is Black. Now, let's look at what God says. Romans 9:13 "For Esau I have hated, but Jacob I love." He hates the White Man. Why? Because he knows what he will do to his people. This is all associated with slavery too. Not only can you find mentions of Gods people being enslaved, but you can also find that in history itself. If you would like to really dive in deep with this topic, you should go and read Deuteronomy.

And I really don't mean to sound prideful when I say this, but God only loves his people. He does NOT love the whole world nor are we equal BECAUSE of what Esau did. You see all of these rich European Nations? They're only rich because they got our (I'm an African American, so if I say "our" I'm talking about my people) resources.

France stole a lot of artwork (paintings, sculptures, statues, etc) from us. Germany colonized different parts of Africa. BRITIAN...y'all wanna talk about THIEVES? Because they are likely NUMBER ONE ON THE THIEVERY AND COLONIZATION LIST. Spain and Portugal are next. They conquered South America, got almost everyone to forcefully learn Spanish, meaning that the majority of people over there originally do not speak Spanish nor are their Spanish names really theirs. Now, when it comes to my people, (people of color) all European Nations messed up, and places from the Middle East, and also China and Japan. These Nations will suffer.

By the way, you guys remember Moses? Moses had told the slave masters in Egypt I believe, to let his people go. Those slave masters said, "NOPE!" Guess what happened after that? They were punished in strange and horrible ways. The Bible never told us how the Israelites reacted to this, but I can imagine them being safe and sitting off on the side looking at their slave masters being punished and going, "Welp. They should have let us go." Moses then led his people out of Egypt.

How does one know they're an Israelite?

Those were some examples of what happened. Now I'm going to talk about the Israelites in general which won't be that long. How does one know if they're an Israelite? Well, this mostly focuses on bloodlines. If you are a person of color, or a White-passing person, and you are suffering with the curses that God put upon the Israelites for their rebellion back then, you would know you're one. Even if you don't know what tribe you're from, you're definitely an Israelite. You would have to read Deuteronomy and figure out if those curses align with you and your family. One of the curses is Gods people not being accepted, and being seen by other Nations in awe. You see how people of color especially Black people are not accepted nowadays AND back in the days? Do you also notice the BLM has people looking at Black people in awe like, "WOW! Y'all had to go through this and that?"

By the way, I just want to point out that Israelites are spread among the Nations due to Esau, so if any of you give me that one verse saying that Yeshua offered salvation to the Gentiles, he means he's offering salvation to his people WITHIN other Nations. That's what the word "Gentile" means, it's a synonym for "Nations" and due to the past, we are all mixed up everywhere. We aren't all just in one place where people can easily identify you. Now I'm going to be talking about the fall of Esau and the rise of Jacob.

Fall of Esau; Revenge

During the Millennium- people think when Yeshua comes back, he and his people will mourn at the fact that there's many lost souls. SCRATCH THAT! We sure ain't doing that. There is absolutely no reason for Gods people to be mourning over anyone else, God chose them, it is what it is. And if God chose his people, then what is the point of mourning over anyone else? There is no point. Not only that, but this will be a time of justice and vengeance, so mourning is way out of the subject. What we'll be doing is taking back our place. We were supposed to be first, Esau took our place, and now we're getting it back hence,

Obadiah 1:18 "Jacob will be a fire and Joseph a flame; Esau will be stubble, and they will set him on fire and destroy him. There will be no survivors from Esau." The LORD has spoken." So because of what the Europeans have done to Gods people; Jacob, they will pay the price. They will ALL get slaughtered by Yeshua AND his people. I would say there's a good chance only a few White-passing people can make it, and if you don't know what that means, look it up, because I need to hurry up and explain the fall of Esau even further.

Obadiah 1:8-10 "On that day I will destroy the wise people in Edom and take wisdom away from Esau's mountain," declares the LORD. Teman, your warriors will be terrified. Everyone on Esau's mountain will be slaughtered. "Because of the violence you did to Jacob, your relative, you will be covered with shame. You will be destroyed forever."

In Short....


The Europeans currently rule the world, they're STILL killing Jacob to this day, they own basically everything, they have all of Jacobs resources, they enslaved Jacob, tortured him, raped him, killed his children, and the BLM movement is simply a distraction. The MAJORITY of Europeans really do have a natural hatred for Jacob. Jacob was supposed to be first, but Esau is currently first. Due to all of these things, we will become first during the Millennium and on the New Earth as well. Esau will meet a terrible fate.

And this is what the Bible is TRULY about. Gods people taking their original place. It is not a, "Just repent, and seek the Lord, anyone can-" No.

So if anyone here is an Israelite, and God has personally told you that you were one of the chosen, you should rejoice.
Yo, why not quote the whole John 3:16?

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭KJVA

I guess you're gonna tell me WHOSOEVER only refer to the Israelite? Get outta here...snakes
 






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Whoa baby, check this-
Jesus said- “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.....And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations" (Mark 16:15, Matt 24:14)

Anyway the jews rejected his offer of salvation and killed him, so they're going up the spout and have got as much chance of getting through the pearlies as a Barry Manilow fan has of gatecrashing an Elvis convention..:)

"How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot....it is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God" (Hebrews 10:29-31)
And as I quoted, I said, "If any of you say that Yeshua told his people to share the gospel with the Gentiles, he's letting them do that so that HIS PEOPLE within the Nations, BECAUSE WE ARE SCATTERED AMONG THE NATIONS due to ESAU, will come to him."

You see, a lot of people aren't aware of their true Nationality (Again, due to Esau) How does one know they're an Israelite? If you fall under the CURSES THAT GOD PUT UPON THEM, then you KNOW you are GODS CHILD. Right now, Black people, Black Hispanics, Native Americans, etc are under this curse. We are last. Who is FIRST?

WHITE PEOPLE! And that is why God HATES ESAU! The White Man just stole resources from the Israelites, took it as their own, and now, if the Israelites need something, they're going to have to go BUY it from the White Man which is, mind my language, f*cked up, BECAUSE they are basically buying their own stolen resources so not only did The White Man steal, but he is getting paid as well for something that doesn't even belong to him.

Like I said, this all comes down to BLOODLINE. If you are an Israelite, you are ROYAL in Christ! The White Man is in control of everything, for he is also prideful. God cursed the Israelites for 2 MAIN REASONS:

1.) Because of their rebellion
2.) So we know who we are. Again, if you fall under those curses, you will know BY GOD HIMSELF THAT YOU BELONG TO HIM.

Obadiah verse 1: "RISE! Let us go against her for battle!" THIS means that the Israelites are starting to fight back. You see a lot of that in these times! "The pride of your heart has deceived you." White people are higher up, that's why they usually say, "You CAN'T bring me down!" Oh, but the Lord and his people certainly WILL! "You who live in the clefts of the rocks, and make your home on the heights-"
Do you see Esau with mansions, and living in luxury right now? I think yes! "You soar like an eagle-" WHAT IS THE SYMBOL OF AMERICA AN EAGLE!

“If thieves came to you, if robbers in the night—oh, what a disaster awaits you!—would they not steal only as much as they wanted?
If grape pickers came to you, would they not leave a few grapes?"
Because they STEAL EVERYTHING, they WANT everything! It's blatantly obvious!

And the verses after that is Yahweh telling us that he and his people will slaughter Esau and take their place as it should've been. Now, I do not want you to think when I continuously say Esau, that I am talking about every single White person. No, I am talking about the MAJORITY of them, because it's TRUE! The majority of them have a natural hatred towards the Israelites!
 






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Yo, why not quote the whole John 3:16?

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭KJVA

I guess you're gonna tell me WHOSOEVER only refer to the Israelite? Get outta here...snakes
It's obvious you didn't read my whole explanation. I also said in the first paragraph if you read John BEFORE it gets to there, you would KNOW Yeshua is talking to an ISRAELITE, and Yeshua himself IS AN ISRAELITE, he is from the Tribe of Judah, THAT IS WHY HE IS KING OF ISRAEL, NOT THE KING OF THE ENTIRE WORLD.


Also, if I am an Israelite, then I am FAR from a snake.
 






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Has God personally told you you were chosen?
You guys are not reading everything, because all of your questions I knew you'd ask is all in there!

Yes, God personally revealed to me that I am chosen, and I would know anyways because I know I am cursed, and I explained that Israelites are cursed, and if they know what curses they fall under, they are identified as Gods chosen.
 






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Yep..we are coming down to what scripture says...
John‬ ‭16:2‬ ‭
But an hour is coming for everyone who kills you to think that he is offering service to God.
 






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Now, I do not want you to think when I continuously say Esau, that I am talking about every single White person. No, I am talking about the MAJORITY of them, because it's TRUE! The majority of them have a natural hatred towards the Israelites!

Steady on, i'm a white boy and I got no beef with Israelites, in fact I admire them for standing like a rock surrounded by muslims..:)
 






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You guys are not reading everything, because all of your questions I knew you'd ask is all in there!

Yes, God personally revealed to me that I am chosen, and I would know anyways because I know I am cursed, and I explained that Israelites are cursed, and if they know what curses they fall under, they are identified as Gods chosen.
You are deceived...way deceived...scripture doesn’t say nor does it imply anything you are saying.
 






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You are deceived...way deceived...scripture doesn’t say nor does it imply anything you are saying.
All those verses I input to give you proof AND HIGHLIGHTED the main keys doesn't prove anything? You know, over the months, I had to accept that not everyone sees the truth immediately, and some will accept it the day they witness it. That's all I'm saying to you, have a good day.
 






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Yep..we are coming down to what scripture says...
John‬ ‭16:2‬ ‭
But an hour is coming for everyone who kills you to think that he is offering service to God.
That has nothing to do with what I'm saying, nor am I murdering anyone because unless it's self defense, to murder is to break Gods law, and I'm not doing it, nor do I have the mindset to do it. When I said during the Millennium that Esau would be slaughtered, I clearly explained why, and Yeshua himself is going to participate. But I told you I really didn't want to deal with conversing with you for obvious reasons, so this is my last reply.
 






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All those verses I input to give you proof AND HIGHLIGHTED the main keys doesn't prove anything? You know, over the months, I had to accept that not everyone sees the truth immediately, and some will accept it the day they witness it. That's all I'm saying to you, have a good day.
You can put as many verses into your concoction as you want..still won’t make them right. Starting with John 3:16. You can’t change the meaning to fit your own bias. And...God is not a racist. He loves everyone as all men ARE created in His image.
 






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Steady on, i'm a white boy and I got no beef with Israelites, in fact I admire them for standing like a rock surrounded by muslims..:)
Okay, no problem. I said White-passing people could possibly make it to the kingdom- you know, it's just whoever is Gods chosen. If he revealed to you that you are one of the chosen, then rejoice.
 






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That has nothing to do with what I'm saying, nor am I murdering anyone because unless it's self defense, to murder is to break Gods law, and I'm not doing it, nor do I have the mindset to do it. When I said during the Millennium that Esau would be slaughtered, I clearly explained why, and Yeshua himself is going to participate. But I told you I really didn't want to deal with conversing with you for obvious reasons, so this is my last reply.
Aren’t you implying that it would be ok for blacks to kill whites? If not..you better change your wording.
 






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God personally revealed to me that I am chosen

Sure sweetheart, if you're a Christian then of course God has chosen you (and all other Christians) to be invited to that great big gated community in the sky..:)
But no way would he allow nonchristians to try to gatecrash their way in, or it'd be a case of "oops there goes the neighbourhood"-

 






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God is the God not only of the Jews..and Gentiles doesn’t mean that they are the Jews within the Jews either.
Romans‬ ‭3:29‬ ‭
Or is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also.
 






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