Trump Presenting Peace Plan To Israeli Leaders

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There is no reason to believe anyone was displaced when Jews bought the land. Do you have some evidence of this?

Those who were displaced by war could have stayed and become citizens of Israel, as many did, but the Arab nations told them to get out of the way of the mighty Arab army.

You are still hung up on the idea that any land held by Jews must be ill-gotten. It’s getting in the way of your understanding of the situation, but I’m tired of explaining it to you.
It's impossible for Jews to displace "people". The only things that Jews displace are Goyim (Goys aren't really people, they are animals).

Ergo, Palestinians are Goyim, they are not "people". So there are no "people" being displaced, only Goyim (who are animals. Not people).
 

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Asking Israel to reach an agreement with Palestine is antisemitic. Israel is land given to the Jews by God (God is also Jewish, by the way).

God sent his Jewish son Jesus to us, so that Jews could start WW2 to create Israel. Jesus also said that Jews should kill Palestinians and rebuild their 3rd Temple in Jerusalem. it's all in the Bible.
 

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It’s amazing to me how the verifiable truth is always “Zionist lies” to certain people. If the things I say are lies, you should be able to show that. So far, you haven’t been able to.

No one is saying the Palestinians MUST form a state, but isn’t that their goal?
Who cares about Palestine?

Everybody knows that God is Jewish. God certainly isn't Palestinian.

Israel shouldn't even be negotiating with Palestine. Everyone knows that Palestinians are The Synagogue of Satan. It's all in the Bible. Palestine even has the Star of Satan blatantly displayed on their flag.

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This is pointed out in the video I posted, but this is a deal written in bad faith. They wrote a deal they know Palestine won't sign so they can say, "we tried to make peace but they rejected it," and then use that as justification for everything they're about to do. That was the sole intent of the deal.
The Palestinians refuse to be a part of the process, so the process has moved on without them. This plan can be implemented without any participation from them at all. If the Palestinians sign onto this plan, the economic aspect kicks in, but if they continue rootin’, tootin’, and shootin’, the terrorist leaders in Gaza and the West Bank will be forced to deal with an increasingly frustrated and angry populace, and a dwindling stream of funds as one Arab nation after another shuts off the tap. The plan ain’t called “Peace To Prosperity” for nothing. If there is no peace, there will be no prosperity.

This is not just the best deal they can get now, but the only one. For the Arab nations who support it, they see the plan as a cover on the Palestinian problem, something that allows them to designate it as solved, so they can move on with their new friendship with Israel. If the Palestinians buy into it, and the plan works, all the better for everyone. But what’s clear is that they’ve moved on.

Like I said, Israel isn’t going anywhere. Everyone who is honest realizes this, that’s why Israel has Arab friends now, and that’s why the Palestinians are being urged to accept this plan. If they ever want their kids to have a future, this is the way. They will never win against Israel, and encouraging them in the belief that they ever will is a crime against peace. Enough people have died.
 

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The Palestinians refuse to be a part of the process, so the process has moved on without them. This plan can be implemented without any participation from them at all. If the Palestinians sign onto this plan, the economic aspect kicks in, but if they continue rootin’, tootin’, and shootin’, the terrorist leaders in Gaza and the West Bank will be forced to deal with an increasingly frustrated and angry populace, and a dwindling stream of funds as one Arab nation after another shuts off the tap. The plan ain’t called “Peace To Prosperity” for nothing. If there is no peace, there will be no prosperity.

This is not just the best deal they can get now, but the only one. For the Arab nations who support it, they see the plan as a cover on the Palestinian problem, something that allows them to designate it as solved, so they can move on with their new friendship with Israel. If the Palestinians buy into it, and the plan works, all the better for everyone. But what’s clear is that they’ve moved on.

Like I said, Israel isn’t going anywhere. Everyone who is honest realizes this, that’s why Israel has Arab friends now, and that’s why the Palestinians are being urged to accept this plan. If they ever want their kids to have a future, this is the way. They will never win against Israel, and encouraging them in the belief that they ever will is a crime against peace. Enough people have died.
Exactly. Israel is unbeatable and Palestinians must accept this. You put it very nicely, Thunderian.

If Palestinians want to avoid complete annihilation, then they must cower before Israel and say "sorry" for being disobedient Goys. And then Palestine must give their remaining land to Israel, and offer themselves up as willing slaves on the altar of Zionism. Palestinians must also give all of their children to Jeffrey Epstein, as tribute.
 

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The Palestinians refuse to be a part of the process, so the process has moved on without them. This plan can be implemented without any participation from them at all. If the Palestinians sign onto this plan, the economic aspect kicks in, but if they continue rootin’, tootin’, and shootin’, the terrorist leaders in Gaza and the West Bank will be forced to deal with an increasingly frustrated and angry populace, and a dwindling stream of funds as one Arab nation after another shuts off the tap. The plan ain’t called “Peace To Prosperity” for nothing. If there is no peace, there will be no prosperity.

This is not just the best deal they can get now, but the only one. For the Arab nations who support it, they see the plan as a cover on the Palestinian problem, something that allows them to designate it as solved, so they can move on with their new friendship with Israel. If the Palestinians buy into it, and the plan works, all the better for everyone. But what’s clear is that they’ve moved on.

Like I said, Israel isn’t going anywhere. Everyone who is honest realizes this, that’s why Israel has Arab friends now, and that’s why the Palestinians are being urged to accept this plan. If they ever want their kids to have a future, this is the way. They will never win against Israel, and encouraging them in the belief that they ever will is a crime against peace. Enough people have died.
Possibly because they know the process is biased from the start. You have Jared Kushner and Jewish Zionists negotiating this plan. It would be more credible if you had someone negotiating who wasn't so heavily titled to one side. That alien guy posted article after article about middle east countries who were infuriated by this deal. And in this country, Israel is only popular with boomers. Even younger Republicans have a majority disapproval of Israel. People are getting wise to the game. Sick of them using the US to advance their interests at the expense of our own.
 

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Possibly because they know the process is biased from the start.
You still don’t get it. It’s not biased, and it doesn’t matter if it is. The game is over. The Palestinians lost. This is a chance for them to salvage something.
 

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Possibly because they know the process is biased from the start. You have Jared Kushner and Jewish Zionists negotiating this plan. It would be more credible if you had someone negotiating who wasn't so heavily titled to one side. That alien guy posted article after article about middle east countries who were infuriated by this deal. And in this country, Israel is only popular with boomers. Even younger Republicans have a majority disapproval of Israel. People are getting wise to the game. Sick of them using the US to advance their interests at the expense of our own.
Antisemite: Confirmed
 

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This is Fatah’s answer to the proposed deal, sent by tweet.


It means “F*ck you. We’ll take it all.”

Meanwhile, in Gaza ...


There is no chance that Palestinian leaders want peace or prosperity for their people. They choose to prolong a useless war instead of seeking a future for their children. I wonder why this doesn’t receive more condemnation?
Quit being such a schill. The deal for them was garbage lol. Its honestly embarrassing to read your posts. Schilling for a country across the ocean that you have nothing to do with. In a real deal both sides compromise and leave a little bit unhappy. Netanyahu and all right wing Jewish donors were gleeful and the press conference for this deal. They didn't give up shit. And I don't care about Palestine. I don't want to he involved over there unlike you ziocucks.
 

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You still don’t get it. It’s not biased, and it doesn’t matter if it is. The game is over. The Palestinians lost. This is a chance for them to salvage something.
The Palestinians are such sore losers. Typical ungrateful goyish behaviour.

Israel is being merciful to these ingrates. This proves that God only works through Jews.
 

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Quit being such a schill. The deal for them was garbage lol. Its honestly embarrassing to read your posts. Schilling for a country across the ocean that you have nothing to do with. In a real deal both sides compromise and leave a little bit unhappy. Netanyahu and all right wing Jewish donors were gleeful and the press conference for this deal. They didn't give up shit. And I don't care about Palestine. I don't want to he involved over there unlike you ziocucks.
Cool it with the Antisemitic remarks, bro.

You do know that Jesus was a Jew right? Do you hate Jesus?

Because if you hate Israel and Jeffrey Epstein then you also hate Jesus.

You’re basically admitting to being a Satanist right now.
 

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Quit being such a schill. The deal for them was garbage lol.
I bet that you don’t even know what the Palestinian demands are. But you’re sure the deal is garbage for them. If you’re not actually the shill here, can you elaborate on what the impasse is? What are the demands of the Palestinians, and how does the deal fail them?
 

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I bet that you don’t even know what the Palestinian demands are. But you’re sure the deal is garbage for them. If you’re not actually the shill here, can you elaborate on what the impasse is? What are the demands of the Palestinians, and how does the deal fail them?
Brother, come to the Zionist Safe Space thread.

Leave these Goyim to rot.
 

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This is pointed out in the video I posted, but this is a deal written in bad faith. They wrote a deal they know Palestine won't sign so they can say, "we tried to make peace but they rejected it," and then use that as justification for everything they're about to do. That was the sole intent of the deal.
Since their 1967 pre-preemptive strikes, Israeli hardliners and Orthodox Jews had no intention to give back lands they stole in (illegal) military conquest. One Jewish critic has said Israel's "peace" negotiations were only for show. They've ignored UN Resolution 242 (which called for withdrawal from occupied territories)for 50 years:

"Operative Paragraph One...'Affirms that the fulfillment of Charter principles requires the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East which should include the application of both the following principles:

(i) Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;
(ii) Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force.'"

The territories stated are clearly the areas designated by the UN in 1948.

Over the last 50 years the entire world, the US included, has envisioned a two state solution as the only realistic answer in Palestine. In 1993 an important (and hopeful )agreement was signed- the Oslo Peace Accords, though it proved to be yet another treaty to be broken by Israel. They seem to have real problem following international law: ;)

"The first step was a partial Israeli withdrawal from Gaza and Jericho and transfer of some powers and responsibilities on civil matters to the interim Palestinian Authority. All to agree upon within two months from October 1993 .

Then, Israeli troops to withdraw from populated Palestinian areas to pave the way for Palestinian elections to establish the Council. The Council would replace the PA, and the Israeli Civil Administration in the West Bank would be dissolved. Further redeployments of Israeli troops would follow upon the inauguration of the Council:

'After the inauguration of the Council, the Civil Administration in the West Bank will be dissolved, and the Israeli military government shall be withdrawn....'

Twenty-five years later, however, the withdrawal of Israeli troops did not take place, and the Civil Administration still has permanent military presence in more than 80% of the West Bank (Area B and C).

In May 1999, the five years interim period ended without reaching a comprehensive peace agreement, but elements of the Oslo Accords remained. At the 2000 Camp David Summit, the US tried to save the Accords by reviving the negotiations. After the failure of the Summit, the Second Intifada broke out and the "peace process" reached deadlock."

Within the talks of 2007--'09, 2010, and '13-'14 (the last peace initiative involving the PA), it's obvious Israel never planned to grant any concessions for the Palestinians. The new "deal", constructed SOLELY by Netenyahu and other US Orthodox Jews like Dershowitz, Greenbladt, Kushner, and Friedman was born dead. It's been wisely pointed out that its purpose was to guarantee rejection (as it's always been). The US is not a neutral party. The only way for legitimate discussions to happen is if they're led by say Japan, Finland, etc.- countries without such heavy ties to either side.

It's funny anyone could think this war is over. 95% of the world's countries already recognize the nation of Palestine. Even with the media blackout on Israel's murders and human rights abuses, enough information is leaking out to disturb the conscience of common men and women. Despite the Israel/US efforts to balkanize southwest Asia, there is still a strong resistance against their occupying force. A thousand Kushners or Netenyahus couldn't hold Gaza, the Golan, and the West bank forever. The Palestinians are victims to criminal liars. The people of the earth bear witness, the earth bears witness, and God Almighty will not allow such injustice forever.
 
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That's exactly how it happened. But of course, you being either an Evangelical Christian or a Jewish Zionist would lie and say otherwise.
I am neither of those. Anyone who does not agree with your revisionist view of history is always a Zionist or an Evangelical Christian to you.
 
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