Caliph Donald Trump and the rise of the Christian Taliban.

[TempestOfTempo]

We have to call out how politics is bullshit theatrics with an agenda to begin with. Human greed seems to be the biggest threat to freedom rather than belief systems that people claim rather than live by

True.
I can recall an episode of the 700 Club where they went DEEP into the jungles of Southeast Asia, like so deep the people didn't have shelter, they were living in the jungle under the foliage and eating bark and grass & etc..... this was due to their violent persecution for becoming Christian. So on the one hand, Pat Robertson & co. had no care for these people........ because if they did, they would have helped them integrate not only their faith, but their daily lives into the communities they had lived in all along. Instead, they used these people as a foothold in the area to "spread the gospel" through. However since they were hiding for their lives in the jungle their "theological outreach" efforts were obviously non-existent, so more than likely their real value to Robertson's "ministries" was to star in this (under five minutes mind you, still have commercial time to sell!) heart-wrenching propaganda piece designed to elicit donations from the faithful. Such an obvious, cunning and heartless charade. You want to know how I know its a charade? As I said, they made it obvious. When they finally found these peoples in the jungle, desperate and frantic, starving and on the edges of life and death, of sanity and madness...... what do you suppose they brought them? Was there food and water, the most basic elements of survival? How about adequate clothing? Perhaps the materials to build shelter? At least a communal shelter? At the very, very least they could have provided arms and ammunition as they were surely aware of the violence, being as they required their own armed escorts in and out of the jungle..... so what did they bring? Bibles. I will never forget the look of desperation on the faces of these people when the cameras first recorded them.... and I will never forget their wails as the begged for food and survival..... and to have the cold hearts of exploitation answer those calls of anguish with prayers and bibles.

After that section of the 700 Club concluded, they cut to Robertson...... on his multi-million dollar racehorse ranch where he called for more donations.....

 

[Damien50]

True.
I can recall an episode of the 700 Club where they went DEEP into the jungles of Southeast Asia, like so deep the people didn't have shelter, they were living in the jungle under the foliage and eating bark and grass & etc..... this was due to their violent persecution for becoming Christian. So on the one hand, Pat Robertson & co. had no care for these people........ because if they did, they would have helped them integrate not only their faith, but their daily lives into the communities they had lived in all along. Instead, they used these people as a foothold in the area to "spread the gospel" through. However since they were hiding for their lives in the jungle their "theological outreach" efforts were obviously non-existent, so more than likely their real value to Robertson's "ministries" was to star in this (under five minutes mind you, still have commercial time to sell!) heart-wrenching propaganda piece designed to elicit donations from the faithful. Such an obvious, cunning and heartless charade. You want to know how I know its a charade? As I said, they made it obvious. When they finally found these peoples in the jungle, desperate and frantic, starving and on the edges of life and death, of sanity and madness...... what do you suppose they brought them? Was there food and water, the most basic elements of survival? How about adequate clothing? Perhaps the materials to build shelter? At least a communal shelter? At the very, very least they could have provided arms and ammunition as they were surely aware of the violence, being as they required their own armed escorts in and out of the jungle..... so what did they bring? Bibles. I will never forget the look of desperation on the faces of these people when the cameras first recorded them.... and I will never forget their wails as the begged for food and survival..... and to have the cold hearts of exploitation answer those calls of anguish with prayers and bibles.

After that section of the 700 Club concluded, they cut to Robertson...... on his multi-million dollar racehorse ranch where he called for more donations.....

And all of this can be tied into the gradual chipping of these faith systems in preference of a more ludicrous and Luciferian system that promotes narcissism, wealth, debauchery, degeneracy, etc. I can't defend the individuals that claim my faith and do ill with it but it isn't because of the faith system itself but these people promoting a lie that allows them to be predators. Personal responsibility has to be taken and we aren't being conditioned for that but essentially to be the best inner gods we can be for ourselves. It's no different from Satanism but the words they use to confuse and create division.

As this is slightly about politics, what is your opinion of Trump and the 'good' things they attribute to him? I see a puppet putting on a play that mimics the all American Christian and the response is overall hate for him and everything he 'stands' for. I believe this is translating on a subconscious level to creating division and hate for the typical conservative American and the things they represent on a smaller scale. Hate him for what he, on the surface, represents and in turn as part of the agenda come to hate those similar to what he represents whether than be guns, Christianity, capitalism, and your typical conservative ideals.

I see a two fold are minimum agenda that ridicules the aforementioned group and keeps this false political system turning. I'm seeing the ministry of truth giving us our daily dose of hate TV to scream and howl like animals at a false savior and really a puppet furthering conditioning and the overall satanic agenda.

 

[TempestOfTempo]

And all of this can be tied into the gradual chipping of these faith systems in preference of a more ludicrous and Luciferian system that promotes narcissism, wealth, debauchery, degeneracy, etc. I can't defend the individuals that claim my faith and do ill with it but it isn't because of the faith system itself but these people promoting a lie that allows them to be predators. Personal responsibility has to be taken and we aren't being conditioned for that but essentially to be the best inner gods we can be for ourselves. It's no different from Satanism but the words they use to confuse and create division.

As this is slightly about politics, what is your opinion of Trump and the 'good' things they attribute to him? I see a puppet putting on a play that mimics the all American Christian and the response is overall hate for him and everything he 'stands' for. I believe this is translating on a subconscious level to creating division and hate for the typical conservative American and the things they represent on a smaller scale. Hate him for what he, on the surface, represents and in turn as part of the agenda come to hate those similar to what he represents whether than be guns, Christianity, capitalism, and your typical conservative ideals.

I see a two fold are minimum agenda that ridicules the aforementioned group and keeps this false political system turning. I'm seeing the ministry of truth giving us our daily dose of hate TV to scream and howl like animals at a false savior and really a puppet furthering conditioning and the overall satanic agenda.

I agree, the fault regarding issues discussed here does not lie with monotheistic faiths, but rather its perversion and the actions of the so-called "believers". And I also very strongly agree with your contentions implicating our own inactivity as the main source of our problems, not tptb...... Its high time we clean up our own backyards first before demanding our neighbors do so.

I think if we are to look as deeply into the Trump-effect as you are proposing, what we will find is that the people who buy into him are of a narrow spectrum, yet still not a monolith although it appears they move as one....
- The "MAGA" True Believer: This Trump supporter is generally of poor moral character. Sure, they occasionally bust out the Red, White & Blue/conservative rhetoric but its mainly waived as a provocational banner, not a source of pride or identity. Similar to pro wrestling fans minus the humor and self-awareness, these are the Trump supporters either too stupid, or too dishonest to engage with.
- The "I know hes wrong, but I enjoy him trolling the leftists" Tump-chump: Basically like con-game victims who continue to get bilked even though they know whats going on..... but out of pride or whatever they wont admit the truth and break free. So they are complicit to the evil, but in more of a "Im along for the ride" capacity.
- The people who said "Anyone but Hillary": Self-explanatory lol

I think a big part of the first 2 categories identity revolves around the false narrative that back in the 50's or whenever, life was much more simple and therefore, better. Of course this ignores all of the issues that we as a culture and nation faced in those dark years but these people arent interested in real, they are interested in feel. So its actually a double-shattering of their illusions because while it not only forces dialog which reveals and reminds that the society they wish to hold out as an ideal example never actually existed in the first place, it also forces them to accept a compromised human like Trump as their champion & representative of a return to those imaginary yet ideal, halcyon days of fantasy.

 

[Colonel Valerio]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2018/12/31/opinion/trump-evangelicals-cyrus-king.amp.html

Do you see?

 

[Colonel Valerio]

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/doing-the-devils-work-in-2018-a-busy-year-for-satan-and-his-demons-in-their-war-against-trump/

Do you see?

 

[Helioform]

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/doing-the-devils-work-in-2018-a-busy-year-for-satan-and-his-demons-in-their-war-against-trump/

Do you see?

Um, wow. I knew of a couple of so-called Christians who said something along those lines but that was tons of them. Scary.

If there is someone who is influenced by demons, it is most definitely Trump himself judging by the stuff he does and says. That or he is just insane.

 

[Colonel Valerio]

Um, wow. I knew of a couple of so-called Christians who said something along those lines but that was tons of them. Scary.

If there is someone who is influenced by demons, it is most definitely Trump himself judging by the stuff he does and says. That or he is just insane.

Yeah the religious aspect to this guy goes unnoticed because he isn’t quoting scripture, but millions see his election as the spiritual triumph of God and it’s straight delusion.

Well according to the Woodward book he is being haunted by living and dead presidents but that could be adderall paranoia and or syphilis madness

 

[Colonel Valerio]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/11/trump-administration-evangelical-influence-support?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Tweet

 

[Todd]

True.
I can recall an episode of the 700 Club where they went DEEP into the jungles of Southeast Asia, like so deep the people didn't have shelter, they were living in the jungle under the foliage and eating bark and grass & etc..... this was due to their violent persecution for becoming Christian. So on the one hand, Pat Robertson & co. had no care for these people........ because if they did, they would have helped them integrate not only their faith, but their daily lives into the communities they had lived in all along. Instead, they used these people as a foothold in the area to "spread the gospel" through. However since they were hiding for their lives in the jungle their "theological outreach" efforts were obviously non-existent, so more than likely their real value to Robertson's "ministries" was to star in this (under five minutes mind you, still have commercial time to sell!) heart-wrenching propaganda piece designed to elicit donations from the faithful. Such an obvious, cunning and heartless charade. You want to know how I know its a charade? As I said, they made it obvious. When they finally found these peoples in the jungle, desperate and frantic, starving and on the edges of life and death, of sanity and madness...... what do you suppose they brought them? Was there food and water, the most basic elements of survival? How about adequate clothing? Perhaps the materials to build shelter? At least a communal shelter? At the very, very least they could have provided arms and ammunition as they were surely aware of the violence, being as they required their own armed escorts in and out of the jungle..... so what did they bring? Bibles. I will never forget the look of desperation on the faces of these people when the cameras first recorded them.... and I will never forget their wails as the begged for food and survival..... and to have the cold hearts of exploitation answer those calls of anguish with prayers and bibles.

After that section of the 700 Club concluded, they cut to Robertson...... on his multi-million dollar racehorse ranch where he called for more donations.....

Pat Robertson needs to read James 2:14-17.

 

[Todd]

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/doing-the-devils-work-in-2018-a-busy-year-for-satan-and-his-demons-in-their-war-against-trump/

Do you see?

Oy vay! My wife and I knew Lance Wallnau in the late-90's before his ministry grew to the large influence it is today. Back then he had some unique insights into Church leadership paradigms but we eventually seperated from him because he started dressing up wordly priniciples and tools in a Christian friendly wrapping.

 

[Colonel Valerio]

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/mike-pence-mike-pompeo-belong-doomsday-cult-may-trying-bring-apocalypse/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


I’ve been telling you guys this for years now

 

[Douglas Summers]

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/mike-pence-mike-pompeo-belong-doomsday-cult-may-trying-bring-apocalypse/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


I’ve been telling you guys this for years now

Baloney! I believe in the apocalypse as do all born again believers...It will happen in God's timetable not mans.

 

[Colonel Valerio]

Do you see?

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/christopher-mcdonald-god-is-using-president-trump-to-liberate-this-country-from-spiritual-slavery/


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/trumps-prophets-we-are-at-war-with-satanic-opponents-of-trump-his-wall-and-his-divine-destiny/

 

[Douglas Summers]

https://www.playboy.com/read/pat-robertson-s-truth-or-why-kleptocracy-and-theocracy-make-good-bedfellows

How Pat Robertson supported a brutal dictator in order to enrich himself while pretending to help refugees flee genocide.

This is why Christian Fundamentalism is the biggest threat to freedom.

The whole world is full of them, Each one self serving. That is why Christ says, "MANY shall come to me saying, Lord, Lord,....But I do not Know them...…. They outnumber born again believers. The body of Christ is small compared to the religious.

 

[Douglas Summers]

Do you see?

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/christopher-mcdonald-god-is-using-president-trump-to-liberate-this-country-from-spiritual-slavery/


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/trumps-prophets-we-are-at-war-with-satanic-opponents-of-trump-his-wall-and-his-divine-destiny/

I have to say, I pretty much agree with the state of the American downfall...Not sure about Trumps part in this, but the swamp is hellish and Satan influenced. What is amazing is They continually lie and do not care if you know it! How much worse will it get?...pray for God's intervention. There is nothing wrong with the Constitution and Bill of Rights...It is the men who disregard it to fit their agenda.

 

[Colonel Valerio]

Do you see?

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-spiritual-adviser-paula-white-suggests-people-send-her-salary-775228?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true

 

[Todd]

Do you see?

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-spiritual-adviser-paula-white-suggests-people-send-her-salary-775228?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true

Ugh, another charismatic ministry that I knew about before they gained the national spotlight. At one pont before she sold out to TBN she had some really good prophetic teaching. The first time I saw her on TBN, I remember thinking "oh great, another good teacher selling out. How long before we start hearing wacky stories about her." Sure enough it wasn't that long after that she divorced her husband. I think they even still co-pastored their church together even after they divorced for a period of time. They are like the Church version of the netflix series "House of Cards."

 

[Colonel Valerio]

Ugh, another charismatic ministry that I knew about before they gained the national spotlight. At one pont before she sold out to TBN she had some really good prophetic teaching. The first time I saw her on TBN, I remember thinking "oh great, another good teacher selling out. How long before we start hearing wacky stories about her." Sure enough it wasn't that long after that she divorced her husband. I think they even still co-pastored their church together even after they divorced for a period of time. They are like the Church version of the netflix series "House of Cards."

The fact that you knew a few of these people who grew into exploitative hacks should dispel any doubts about your changing outlook on Christianity has changed you for the better. The above example(s) is where fundamentalism man made dogmas will inevitably lead you. I know there are some big differences between us on interpretation but Todd to me it’s clear that you are the most Christian person here.

 

[Douglas Summers]

Do you see?

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-spiritual-adviser-paula-white-suggests-people-send-her-salary-775228?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true

If it is true that WHITE is his spiritual advisor...we are all in trouble. She is apart of the religious name it and claim it group. The wisdom of The born again believer is Christ alone.

 

[Colonel Valerio]

If it is true that WHITE is his spiritual advisor...we are all in trouble. She is apart of the religious name it and claim it group. The wisdom of The born again believer is Christ alone.

Wow if you think she is a problem Doug then it’s worse than I imagined. Thanks for your input.