We do not start our Christian lives by working out our faith for ourselves; it is mediated to us by Christian tradition, in the form of sermons, books and established patterns of church life and fellowship. We read our Bibles in the light of what we have learned from these sources; we approach Scripture with minds already formed by the mass of accepted opinions and viewpoints with which we have come into contact.
How do you know when you have "won" a religious debate? When the person you are debating with stops attempting to use intellect, logic and exegesis of scripture, and then resorts to accusations and judgements about the condition of your soul.
Where Jesus tried to create Christian individuals, Saint Paul tried to create Christian groups. This opened the door to hypocrisy, externalism, materialism, ritualism, priestcraft, persecution, and deterioration. The realizable kingdom of heaven within man had to give way to an unrealizable kingdom of God on earth. The way back to true religion must therefore lie through making a fresh start-Notebooks of Paul Brunton
I am still baffled why so many Christians come to a conspiracy website to regurgitate the same old tired doctrines of man they received from institutionalized religion. How is it they can see conspiracy in every other area of society except for this? Jesus had very radical ideas compared with the mainstream "orthodox" religion of his day. Jesus was a heretic by the purest defintion...
“Without the persistent rising up of individuals that seek the Lord and place themselves under His direct leadership, churches will inevitably...slip into human hierarchy, institutionalizing a system of doctrines and practices.”
― Henry Hon, ONE: Unfolding God's Eternal Purpose from House to House
“One hundred religious persons knit into a unity by careful organization do not constitute a church any more than eleven dead men make a football team. The first requisite is life, always.“- A. W. Tozer
Matthew 10:8 versus 2 cor 11:8 and 1 Timothy 5:7-18
Matthew 23:9 versus 1 Cor 4:15
Jesus taught we are all equal in Christ. He Is the only Pastor and Teacher.
Paul taught hierarchy in the church and is the basis for the differentiation between "clergy" and "laity".
Genesis 49:27 Benjamin is a ravenous wolf; in the morning he devours the prey, in the evening he divides the plunder / spoils.
Paul was a Benjamite. Paul in his early days killed christians. In his latter days he promoted the division of gentiles and jews by saying he alone was the apsotle of the gentiles. Peter on the other hand recieved the revelation that he was to preach the same gospel to jews AND gentiles.
It's ineteresting that the only explicit testimony that Paul was "a servant of the most high" and caried "a way of salvation" recorded in the bible is the testimony of a prophetess with the Spirit of Python. So the stongest testimony and affrimation of Paul's ministry was from Satan?
“'Cursed is the one who perverts the justice due the stranger, the fatherless, and widow.' "And all the people shall say, 'Amen!'” (Deut. 27:19.)
Do not let a widow under sixty years old be taken into the number.
But refuse the younger widows
(1 timothy 5:9-12)
"I ask again, how many shepherds will the followers of Jesus have? Jesus says 'one'. Paul - and the religion founded on his teachings (and the rest of the Bible apart from Jesus' teachings) - says 'millions'. Who are you going to believe?" - Is 'Going to Church' Compatible with the Teachings of Jesus of Nazareth? JesusFamilies.org
"But since Christ's time, and down to ours, we find a deviation of doctrine from the foundations laid by Christ.
This deviation begins ...with that lover of teaching, Paul: and the wider Christianity extends, the more it deviates and appropriates the methods of that very external worship and dogmatism the denial of which was so positively expressed by Christ." Tolstoy - The Church and State 1891.
“The most direct heirs of the Jewish-Christian groupings within earliest Christianity [i.e., the early Jerusalem church] regarded Paul as the great apostate, an arch enemy,” citing Epistula Petri 2.3; Clem. Hom. 17:18-19. (James D. G. Dunn, The Cambridge Companion to St. Paul (Cambridge University Press, 2003)
"Paul does not know how to develop a hyperbaton, nor to conclude a sentence; and having to do with rude people, he has employed the conceptions, which, if, at the outset, he had not taken care to announce as spoken after the manner of men, would have shocked men of good sense". - Jerome in his Commentary on Galatians and Ephesians.
Clearly any man can make claims for himself: but his claim is confirmed by another person’s attestation. One person writes the document, another signs it, a third attests the signature, and a fourth enters it in the records. No man is for himself both claimant and witness. If there is one that makes a false claim to be Christ, much more can there be one who professes that he is an apostle of Christ. -Tertullian
"I must...approach this inquiry with uneasiness when I find one affirmed to be an apostle, of whom in the list of the apostles in the gospel I find no trace. So when I am told that Paul was subsequently promoted by our Lord, by now at rest in heaven, I find some lack of foresight in the fact that Christ did not know beforehand that he would have need of him" -Tertullian -- written in 207 A.D. in Against Marcion
“This much is certain, that we have no theological right to set any sort of limits to the loving-kindness of God which has appeared in Jesus Christ. Our theological duty is to see and understand it as being still greater than we had seen before.”
― Karl Barth, The Humanity of God