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  • "One fundamental characteristic of Patristic apokatastasis is its Christocentrism. Another is—what at first might sound paradoxical—its orthodoxy. In fact, the main Patristic supporters of this theory, Origen and Nyssen, did support it in defense of Christian “orthodoxy,” against those which were regarded as the most dangerous heresies of their times" - Ilaria Ramelli -The Christian Doctrine of Apokatastasis
    I find it interesting that those who claim Jesus is God himself, are often the same people who believe Jesus was not able to actually accomplish what he came to do! Save the entire world! Luke 9:51-56
    Vixy
    Vixy
    I agree with you. I believe Jesus is his son and not God. If I am wrong, the lord will correct me. :)
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    The disciples initially thought Jesus should command fire to come down when the Samaritans rejected him. Jesus' response: " Ye know not what manner of Spirit ye are of, for the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives but to save them."
    Isaiah 26:9-10
    With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness. Let favor be showed to the wicked, yet will he not learn righteousness: in the land of uprightness will he deal unjustly, and will not behold the majesty of the LORD
    God can do anything he wants: Matthew 19:26
    God will do anything he wants: Isaiah 46:9-11, Prov. 19:21, Daniel 4:35
    God wants to save the whole world: 1 Timothy 2:4, 1 John 2:2
    Todd
    Todd
    Isaiah 45:22
    Turn to me and be saved, all ye ends of the earth, for I am God and there is none else. I have sworn by myself and the word has gone out of my mouth and shall not return, that unto me, that every knee shall bow, and every tongue shall swear Surely shall one say, "In the Lord I have righteousness and strength".
    Red Sky at Morning
    Red Sky at Morning
    The simple point I was making @Todd is that dispute God's wishes, people can choose to reject Him.
    Todd
    Todd
    Not forever. John 12:32 "And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me". The greek word translated as "draw" is "helkuo" and means "to drag".
    Isaac Cogdal, tells of a discussion in Lincoln’s office in 1859: 'Lincoln expressed himself in about these words: He did not nor could not believe in the endless punishment of any one of the human race. He understood punishment for sin to be a Bible doctrine; that the punishment was parental in its object, aim, and design, and intended for the good of the offender; hence it must cease when justice is satisfied.
    Lincoln wrote an essay about 1833 on predestinated universal salvation in criticism of the orthodox doctrine of endless punishment. Lincoln's conviction that God would restore the whole of creation as the outcome of Christ's atonement would have been in itself a bar to membership in the Springfield church he attended. The Almost Chosen People” by William J. Wolf (Doubleday & Company Inc, 1959)
    the scholarly consensus is the word "eternal" is a qualitative rather than a quantitative term. But more importantly, Universalists don't "get around" the biblical texts about eternal punishment. Universalists read those texts just like traditionalists do. But what universalists won't do is allow those texts to trump other texts that point to the reconciliation of "all things".
    “All men are Christ’s, some by knowing Him, the rest not yet. He is the Savior, not of some and the rest not. For how is He Savior and Lord, if not the Savior and Lord of all?” — Clement of Alexandria
    "God forbid that I should limit the time of acquiring faith to the present life. In the depth of the Divine mercy there may be opportunity to win it in the future."
    -Martin Luther
    I think the internet has ruined the art of discussion. It's nearly impossible to discuss something without it becoming a pissing match of who is right and who is wrong. (I'm preaching to myself a little bit here also.)
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    Lurker
    I would love to discuss this with you, but someone is wrong on the internet. I must go set them straight. :)
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    free2018
    That's the bad thing about Internet. We don't know how to debate anymore. We rarely see critical thinking on the Net. A lot of groupthink on the net.
    To go on punishing for ever, simply for punishment's sake, shocks every sentiment of justice. And the case is so much worse when the punishment is really the prolongation of evil, when it is but making evil endless. --Thomas Allin, Christ Triumphant, p 49
    Todd
    Todd
    God must be accomplishing a design invariable and without the shadow of turning, the design to save every one of us everlastingly. –Florence Nightingale
    Todd
    Todd
    If God loves all and is omnipotent then all must be saved. Nels Ferré: “If he can save all men, then he will save all men.”-- William Dalton, Salvation and Damnation
    Todd
    Todd
    “It must be everybody or nobody.” –Abraham Lincoln, when questioned who would ultimately be in Heaven.
    Cyril Richardson, professor of Church history at New York's Union Theological Seminary "“Much of the defense of the Trinity as a 'revealed' doctrine, is really an evasion of the objections that can be brought against it.”
    Damien50
    Damien50
    How dare you say assert God didn't want us to infer a trinity! For shame I say.
    Not that my situation or my accomplishments come anywhere close to his, but I kinda feel the same way William Wilberforce (or at the least the way he was portrayed in the movie "Amazing Grace") did when he got a revelation of the magnitutde of the Grace of God. I have no allusions that I am destined to do anything like end slave trade, but I think I have experienced at least a glimpse of what he experienced.
    I have been reading the original preface to the 1611 KJV “the Translators to the Reader” and find it fascinating that the actual KJV translators had the exact opposite view of KJV only proponents. They would vehemently oppose “KJV onlyism”
    Damien50
    Damien50
    From my understanding, the KJV was preceded by several bibles or several languages before even reaching the Geneva bible. Anabaptist among other groups that predated protestants all had bibles in various languages with not necessarily all 66 books contained that were compiled and cross referenced. While I'm a KJV fan it's because I feel it's the most complete of the translations but if someone is genuinely seeking
    Damien50
    Damien50
    Answers and praying I don't really feel they'll be led astray but they might not receive the entirety of what they seek. I cross reference with lexicons and dictionaries or if something seems questionable then I will grab another translation but I can usually just Google my query.
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    Hi,
    Are you acutally Protestant?
    Todd
    Todd
    No I'm not protestant or RCC. I don't really care for labels. The best way to describe me is that I am a follower of the Way. (See Acts 9:2, 19:9, 19:23, 24:14 and 24:22)
    _Armageddon_
    _Armageddon_
    Ok..may I ask why you arent a Rcc or Protestant?
    Todd
    Todd
    I have no reason to protest against the RCC, as I have never recognized them as an authority over me in any manner. I believe Jesus is the Messiah and believe God's word is contained in the Bible. I am a Christian in the most basic sense, and though I fellowship with believers from many different denominations, my identity in Christ is not defined by a denomination or religious institution.
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