The TRUE BIBLICAL TRUTH; Esau will fall, Jacob will rise

[Lisa]

No I’m making a relevant point which refutes littleladys claim

Honestly, I’ve never heard it was the Jews fault for the black slave trade..just the white man..disregarding the black mans involvement in it.

 

[LittleLady]

I can grasp how your people have been persecuted, but you demonstrate the same pitiless attitude towards others as colonists and slavers demonstrated towards your peoples. A God who only loves one part of humanity isn't a loving God, whether that one part of humanity be "believers in Christ", "devotees of [insert Deity]" or "people of God". Such a deity would not be worthy of worship, it would be a Anthropomorphic Divine Tyrant, a Demiurge. If such a God were to "choose" me I wouldn't feel privileged, but would rather be concerned about what is wrong with me that I became the chosen of such an evil being.

Well, it was hard for me to believe at first too, but now I just accept that. Some people just can't accept the truth like the ones that are continuously coming back to this thread just to claim how wrong I am.

So are you saying God is evil just for choosing a specific group to be his people? That doesn't even make sense. Are YOU evil for choosing a specific type of ice cream flavor out of the many ice cream flavors? Don't think so. I don't see any concern for myself being with the Most High, the King of Israel, and my brothers and sisters for eternity within a kingdom finally being relieved without any pain nor crying, nor death after having been enslaved for years upon years.

Again, like I've been saying to everyone else, don't cast your anger on me due to God having a specific elect chosen. If you aren't destined to go to the Kingdom, you might as well blame your forefathers for it, they left you a tab. I didn't.

And even Christianity itself teaches, "If you don't repent, you're going to hell" so to any Christians here, do you not accept that part of your belief as well? Are you going to ignore that part? Because at the end of the day, not everyone will have a happy ending.

So if anyone wants to continue raging against me, that's just you being mad at the truth. You guys have told me a lot of things about your religions, and you don't see me raging about it.

 

[lightseeker]

Honestly, I’ve never heard it was the Jews fault for the black slave trade..just the white man..disregarding the black mans involvement in it.

The details are given in the bitchute video I posted on the last page if you’re interested in the Jews involvement in the transatlantic slave trade. And yes I agree, all one hears about is the whites involvement in slavery, when the black Africans enabled it, muslims had massive slave trades, etc etc etc every people has participated in this practice.
it is relevant because she claims to be a “true black Hebrew” or whatever, ignoring that in THE LAW whichshe says is the way to God, slavery is endorsed explicitly so she can’t use that argument anymore. Not putting the blame on anyone here, these are just the facts

 

[KoncreteMind]

No, it's prophecy because it foretold FUTURE EVENTS.

No it didnt. It told of the event(s) that Israel was part of when they were CALLED (past tense) out of Egypt. Because they fell to the same thing again, doesnt mean that that specific verse is a two way prophecy that is applied to the past and future. Thats just you trying to make the NT fit. I said the CONTEXT of the verse doesnt support a future prophecy. And it doesnt because it says what God CALLED Israel out of Egypt, they TURNED to idols. The only reason you change this to a verse about the future is because of Matthew 2. Very flimsy but at least you took a swing at it

 

[Lisa]

The details are given in the bitchute video I posted on the last page if you’re interested in the Jews involvement in the transatlantic slave trade. And yes I agree, all one hears about is the whites involvement in slavery, when the black Africans enabled it, muslims had massive slave trades, etc etc etc every people has participated in this practice.
it is relevant because she claims to be a “true black Hebrew” or whatever, ignoring that in THE LAW whichshe says is the way to God, slavery is endorsed explicitly so she can’t use that argument anymore. Not putting the blame on anyone here, these are just the facts

I still don’t think the Jews were involved in that, honestly..I might watch the video..but I don’t have a lot of confidence in it being true.

 

[KoncreteMind]

The details are given in the bitchute video I posted on the last page if you’re interested in the Jews involvement in the transatlantic slave trade. And yes I agree, all one hears about is the whites involvement in slavery, when the black Africans enabled it, muslims had massive slave trades, etc etc etc every people has participated in this practice.
it is relevant because she claims to be a “true black Hebrew” or whatever, ignoring that in THE LAW whichshe says is the way to God, slavery is endorsed explicitly so she can’t use that argument anymore. Not putting the blame on anyone here, these are just the facts

Thats because she's new to her understanding. Its not about being punished for slavery. Its really about being punished for going overboard beyond what they were sent to do and ultimately, because they do not follow God's commandments. Thats really what everything is about in the end. Whoever follows God's commandments, gets the crown. And none of yall are going to do it sadly, so we'll see who He raises up to take the crown when this current kingdom loses it...

 

[lightseeker]

Thats because she's new to her understanding. Its not about being punished for slavery. Its really about being punished for going overboard beyond what they were sent to do and ultimately, because they do not follow God's commandments. Thats really what everything is about in the end. Whoever follows God's commandments, gets the crown. And none of yall are going to do it sadly, so we'll see who He raises up to take the crown when this current kingdom loses it...

So you follow all of Gods commandments as understood by the rabbis?
And what makes the law a collective ordeal? Why do you talk about vast swaths of people following the law or not?

 

[LittleLady]

Probably by Friday, I'll be making a thread concerning the History of Esau and Jacob and how it aligns with their descendants as of today. When I start getting deep into it, you'll KNOW I'm not trolling, even though I know some of you only think that because you're in denial, but I'm still doing it anyways.

 

[KoncreteMind]

So you follow all of Gods commandments as understood by the rabbis?

Someone wrote "A righteous man falls down 7 times but gets back up 8" or something like that....

Dont know what rabbis you're referring to

And what makes the law a collective ordeal? Why do you talk about vast swaths of people following the law or not?

God chose Israel to be a kingdom of PRIESTS:

Exodus 19:6
And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation.

And in the end that IS the role they will take:

Zechariah 8:23
This is what the LORD Almighty says: "In those days ten people from all languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, 'Let us go with you, because we have heard that God is with you.'"

So you will see a collective group of people following the law.

 

[lightseeker]

Someone wrote "A righteous man falls down 7 times but gets back up 8" or something like that....

Dont know what rabbis you're referring to

So no

God chose Israel to be a kingdom of PRIESTS:

Exodus 19:6
And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation.

And in the end that IS the role they will take:

Zechariah 8:23
This is what the LORD Almighty says: "In those days ten people from all languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, 'Let us go with you, because we have heard that God is with you.'"

So you will see a collective group of people following the law.

Yes as a covenant, a covenant means a two way promise. You fulfill your part, I'll fulfill mine. If you don't fulfill yours, the whole thing is null and void.
As was stated before, this covenant, like many others has passed. What happened to the covenant with Adam? And the one with Noah? And the one with David? They progressively changed as humanity changed, and the new covenant is given in the blood of Jesus Christ and his teachings, sorry boss.

 

[KoncreteMind]

So no

Nope I counteracted the false point you were most likely going to make that just because someone isnt perfect that it means they cant be accepted by the Most High. When the Most High had someone write down that a RIGHTEOUS man falls down 7 times but gets up 8.

Yes as a covenant, a covenant means a two way promise. You fulfill your part, I'll fulfill mine. If you don't fulfill yours, the whole thing is null and void.

God said He'd make a SECOND COVENANT with Israel and Judah though when He regathers them from the places He sent them. Hasnt happened yet, but whether you believe it or not, IT WILL. What the Most High said in Zec 8 wasnt conditional. It was a prophecy about the end times that we're soon approaching. Once everyone's getting hit with this or that, and yall see a group of people untouched, you'll get the idea....

As was stated before, this covenant, like many others has passed. What happened to the covenant with Adam? And the one with Noah? And the one with David? They progressively changed as humanity changed, and the new covenant is given in the blood of Jesus Christ and his teachings, sorry boss.

The Most High said this:

24 Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the Lord hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them.
25 Thus saith the Lord; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;
26 Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.



Even after we failed the first covenant, God said He'd have mercy on us, gather us back, and make a SECOND covenant with us. And with that second covenant, we wouldnt even be given the opportunity to fail because EACH of us (that He chooses) would have His law in our hearts.

So Im not sure why you're asking about covenants with Adam, Noah or David. They dont disappear just as the one the Most High WILL make with Israel/Judah (not everyone) will appear probably sooner than we think. And noneof those covenants changedd because of "humanity changing" because God said He doesnt change. So why would He change His agreements based on the flimsiness of man?

 

[lightseeker]

Nope I counteracted the false point you were most likely going to make that just because someone isnt perfect that it means they cant be accepted by the Most High. When the Most High had someone write down that a RIGHTEOUS man falls down 7 times but gets up 8.



God said He'd make a SECOND COVENANT with Israel and Judah though when He regathers them from the places He sent them. Hasnt happened yet, but whether you believe it or not, IT WILL. What the Most High said in Zec 8 wasnt conditional. It was a prophecy about the end times that we're soon approaching. Once everyone's getting hit with this or that, and yall see a group of people untouched, you'll get the idea....


The Most High said this:

24 Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the Lord hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them.
25 Thus saith the Lord; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;
26 Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.



Even after we failed the first covenant, God said He'd have mercy on us, gather us back, and make a SECOND covenant with us. And with that second covenant, we wouldnt even be given the opportunity to fail because EACH of us (that He chooses) would have His law in our hearts.

So Im not sure why you're asking about covenants with Adam, Noah or David. They dont disappear just as the one the Most High WILL make with Israel/Judah (not everyone) will appear probably sooner than we think. And noneof those covenants changedd because of "humanity changing" because God said He doesnt change. So why would He change His agreements based on the flimsiness of man?

Alright. cool man thanks for sharing i wish you all the best in the practice of your faith

 

[KoncreteMind]

Alright. cool man thanks for sharing i wish you all the best in the practice of your faith

Lol typical, nonetheless appreciate the well wishes...

 

[A Freeman]

No it didnt. It told of the event(s) that Israel was part of when they were CALLED (past tense) out of Egypt. Because they fell to the same thing again, doesnt mean that that specific verse is a two way prophecy that is applied to the past and future. Thats just you trying to make the NT fit. I said the CONTEXT of the verse doesnt support a future prophecy. And it doesnt because it says what God CALLED Israel out of Egypt, they TURNED to idols. The only reason you change this to a verse about the future is because of Matthew 2. Very flimsy but at least you took a swing at it

You're arguing absolute nonsense. God Bless.

 

[Lyfe]

Nope I counteracted the false point you were most likely going to make that just because someone isnt perfect that it means they cant be accepted by the Most High. When the Most High had someone write down that a RIGHTEOUS man falls down 7 times but gets up 8.



God said He'd make a SECOND COVENANT with Israel and Judah though when He regathers them from the places He sent them. Hasnt happened yet, but whether you believe it or not, IT WILL. What the Most High said in Zec 8 wasnt conditional. It was a prophecy about the end times that we're soon approaching. Once everyone's getting hit with this or that, and yall see a group of people untouched, you'll get the idea....


The Most High said this:

24 Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the Lord hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them.
25 Thus saith the Lord; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;
26 Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.



Even after we failed the first covenant, God said He'd have mercy on us, gather us back, and make a SECOND covenant with us. And with that second covenant, we wouldnt even be given the opportunity to fail because EACH of us (that He chooses) would have His law in our hearts.

So Im not sure why you're asking about covenants with Adam, Noah or David. They dont disappear just as the one the Most High WILL make with Israel/Judah (not everyone) will appear probably sooner than we think. And noneof those covenants changedd because of "humanity changing" because God said He doesnt change. So why would He change His agreements based on the flimsiness of man?

The second covenant already happened mate. That's why there hasnt been a temple or sacrifice offered in 2000 years. The final sacrifice for sin and atonement already happened.

 

[KoncreteMind]

You're arguing absolute nonsense. God Bless.

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As I said to the other character when he/she walks around PRETENDING they have a point they can prove but back out when they cant, typical... But also on the flipside, appreciate the well wishes

 

[lightseeker]

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As I said to the other character when he/she walks around PRETENDING they have a point they can prove but back out when they cant, typical... But also on the flipside, appreciate the well wishes

I didn’t “back out” I wished you well. You explained your faith, im not going to labour to change it. Your faith is one of reasoning and theories, mine is of faith, practice and prayer. I’m not going to reason you out of yours, and I can’t reason you into mine,

 

[Artful Revealer]

when Yeshua returns, (Day of the Lord) is at some point in that day, he's going to slaughter many Edomites,

Thinks Jesus is going to come back to commit genocide. Poor girl hasn't understood a thing.

 

[Artful Revealer]

As I said to the other character when he/she walks around PRETENDING they have a point they can prove but back out when they cant, typical... But also on the flipside, appreciate the well wishes

Is that worse than backing out when asked a direct question?

 

[KoncreteMind]

I didn’t “back out” I wished you well.

Tomato/tomatuh?

Lol but seriously alot of yall act like you have a point to prove, but when given the opportunity show you cant... It is what it is though..