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How does it work?
And you want to risk being cursed by God, but you don't want to answer a simple question?
How does it work?
Why wouldn't someone use the most accurate version of the Bible available?Why don’t you stick with the 1611 then, and use a decent Interlinear in any areas where varied meanings may be implied, rather than create your own version and attempt to harmonise it with the incompatible message of the Qur’an?
It seems like a monumental waste of time to me!!!
Given the fact that God will allow the False Prophet and the Antichrist to arrive, the mistaken and obstinate Jews Who have rejected their Messiah to build their Third Temple and myriads to take the Mark of the Beast, I do believe he would allow someone to create a modified version of the Bible and dupe people out of eternal life.Do you really think Father (God) would allow ANYONE other than His Christ to publish the King of kings' Bible during the end-times, right before everyone is due to be judged, other than Christ?
You are trying to incorporate the Devil's dictation known as the Quran into God's book known as the Bible.You are still trying to argue from a point of ignorance.
The King of kings' Bible
Incorporating:-
The Old Covenant / Testament;
The New Covenant / Testament
and The Holy Koran
There is absolutely no way that you can be anything else than a muslim.Why wouldn't someone use the most accurate version of the Bible available?
Even within this very thread, people are attempting to argue that believing in a false, overtly pagan 3=1 nonsensical god, that is found NOWHERE in all of Scripture, is allegedly the key to our salvation.
If it was such a blasphemy, why didn't Jesus then rebuke anyone who worshiped Him?The Koran that I'm reading from Christ's very own King of kings' Bible and love to quote from, agrees perfectly with the rest of the Bible and says exactly the same as Jesus' Teachings in the Gospels.
TWH
10:12 The Lord told Mohammed exactly the same as Jesus had taught, which is NOT to worship
Jesus, or Mohammed, or any other Prophet or Angel, and to worship ONLY God
@Artful Revealer
How about that curse duel?
I say your information has lies and blasphemy*, which are taking you steadily to hell-fire, and ours is Truth, which you can't see yet.
King of kings' Bible - Koran
Surah 3. The Family Of Amram, The House Of Amram (Ex. 6:18-20 Moses, Aaron, Miriam)
3:59. The similitude of Jesus (the human) before God is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be": and he was.
3:60. The Truth (comes) from God alone; so be not of those who doubt.
3:61. If any one disputes in this matter with thee, now after (full) knowledge hath come to thee, say: "Come! let us gather together,- our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves: then let us earnestly pray, and invoke the curse of God on those who lie!"
3:62. This is the true account: there is no god except God; and God- He is indeed the Exalted in Power, the Wise.
4:171. O People of The Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of God aught but the Truth. Jesus the (human) son of Mary was (no more than) an Apostle of God; and His Word (John 1:14), which He bestowed on Mary's (human) son; was a spirit-Being (Christ) proceeding from Him (making the human+Being called Jesus+Christ): so believe God and His Apostles. Say NOT "Trinity": DESIST: it will be better for you: for "I AM" is one God. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a human son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on Earth. And enough is God as a Disposer of affairs.
* KIng of kings' Bible - Revelation
17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come here; I will show unto thee the Judgment of the great "Whore" that sitteth upon many"waters":
17:2 With whom the kings of the Earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the Earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
17:4 And the woman was arrayed in PURPLE (bishops) and SCARLET (cardinals) colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
17:5 And upon her forehead [was] a name written, MYSTERY (2 Thess. 2:7), BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS (her daughters) AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of her saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
17:7 And the angel said unto me, Why didst thou marvel? (Stop it!) I will tell thee the MYSTERY of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend outof the Bottomless Pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the Earth shall wonder, whose names were NOT written in the Book ofLife from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beastt hat was, and is not, and yet is.
17:9 And here [is] the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth (Rome).
As it says, we "earnestly pray, and invoke the curse of God on those who lie".How does it work?
And you want to risk being cursed by God, but you don't want to answer a simple question?
Who do you think you are? Elijah?As it says, we "earnestly pray, and invoke the curse of God on those who lie".
The prayer will definitely answer the question, and all the others.
I say our source is the Truth.
So you mean Christ is God?the Scriptures themselves, which clearly tell us that Christ is THE KING OF KINGS and LORD OF LORDS.
Actually, you obviously don't know Who He really is, as it is plain to see that there are many things you don't really know. He is a very loving person.Who do you think you are? Elijah?
Why not: on lies? Unwitting? for now, it seems?You want to invoke the wrath of the god of plagues and curses?
Then you be wrong, because He was Prophesied to be here in The End Times:You must be out of your damn mind. I know who he is, and I want nothing to do with him.
Did you know the word "Muslim" is Arabic and means "Believer", or one who is "True in Faith", or were you ignorant of that fact?There is absolutely no way that you can be anything else than a muslim.
What merit is it to be called a believer or true in faith... when what is believed are the words of the Devil ?Did you know the word "Muslim" is Arabic and means "Believer", or one who is "True in Faith", or were you ignorant of that fact?
Christendom was created by Jesus Christ... but both He and the apostles warned that there would be a falling away from faith. And so today at the end of the age Christendom is just about no more. And that's why Jesus wondered if He would even find faith on the earth.The organized religion of Islam, like all organized religions, was created by Satan to keep its adherents AWAY from God. That's why the organized religion of Islam, along with ALL organized religions, MUST be destroyed.
Worshiped (loved, revered and respected) as being the Messiah sent by God, not worshiped as being God Himself.If it was such a blasphemy, why didn't Jesus then rebuke anyone who worshiped Him?
Matthew 28
8 So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell his disciples. 9 Suddenly Jesus met them. “Greetings,” he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped him. 10 Then Jesus said to them, “Do not be afraid. Go and tell my brothers to go to Galilee; there they will see me.”
Matthew 28
16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
Matthew 8
2 And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.
3 And Jesus put forth his hand, and touched him, saying, I will; be thou clean. And immediately his leprosy was cleansed.
Matthew 14
31 And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?
32 And when they were come into the ship, the wind ceased.
33 Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.
John 9
35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?
36 He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him?
37 And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee.
38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.
Luke 24
51 And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.
52 And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:
Why did Paul say all should bow to His name? Why did he say Jesus is Lord?
Philippians 2
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Why did God say to the angels, "worship Him"? (even IF the firstborn is Michael, you have the same problem!)
Hebrews 1
“I will be his Father,
and he will be my Son”?
6 And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says,
“Let all God’s angels worship him.”
Why did the Magi worship baby Jesus?
Matthew 2
11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh.
Agreed. And it's exactly why Christ sent the following warning specifically to all "Christians", i.e. those who are part of the organized religion known as "Christianity".Luke 18 7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?
8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
A lot of people claim to be christians... but do they have faith ? Do they have the correct Christian doctrine and live by it ?
No of course not ! Else Jesus would not wonder if He would find faith on the earth.
Who is Jesus Christ ?Worshiped (loved, revered and respected) as being the Messiah sent by God, not worshiped as being God Himself.
Every knee shall bow before Christ, remember?
John
5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son (Enoch 58:1; 60:11; 68:39):
5:23 That all [men] should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
Abigail also worshiped David, and Sarah called Abraham lord. Obviously, that did not mean that David was God, or that Abraham was God (which should be clear to anyone with a reasonable amount of common sense).
And yet his disciples referred to him as "Lord" as well.Agreed. And it's exactly why Christ sent the following warning specifically to all "Christians", i.e. those who are part of the organized religion known as "Christianity".
Matthew 7:21-23
7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into The Kingdom of heaven; ONLY he that doeth the Will of my Father which is in heaven.
7:22 Many will say to me in That Day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work inequity.
Think about it. Who else calls Christ "Lord" other than so-called Christians? The "Jews" certainly do not. And neither do the "Muslims" nor any other organized religion.
Which should likewise explain why Christ told His TRUE Followers to go and make DISCIPLES of all nations, NOT "Christians" (Matt. 28:19).
A disciple is one who has the discipline to DO what Christ has COMMANDED us to do, which is to KEEP THE COVENANTS AND THE LAW/COMMANDMENTS OF GOD.
If you genuinely desire to make this world a better, more Christ-like place for everyone, including yourself, then please start keeping The Law, as we've been COMMANDED to do. To do otherwise is to make a mockery of Christ's Sacrifice.
The moral laws like love God and your neighbours and don't steal lie cheat or kill etc etc are of course eternal ethical laws.Agreed. And it's exactly why Christ sent the following warning specifically to all "Christians", i.e. those who are part of the organized religion known as "Christianity".
Matthew 7:21-23
7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into The Kingdom of heaven; ONLY he that doeth the Will of my Father which is in heaven.
7:22 Many will say to me in That Day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work inequity.
Think about it. Who else calls Christ "Lord" other than so-called Christians? The "Jews" certainly do not. And neither do the "Muslims" nor any other organized religion.
Which should likewise explain why Christ told His TRUE Followers to go and make DISCIPLES of all nations, NOT "Christians" (Matt. 28:19).
A disciple is one who has the discipline to DO what Christ has COMMANDED us to do, which is to KEEP THE COVENANTS AND THE LAW/COMMANDMENTS OF GOD.
If you genuinely desire to make this world a better, more Christ-like place for everyone, including yourself, then please start keeping The Law, as we've been COMMANDED to do. To do otherwise is to make a mockery of Christ's Sacrifice.
Your semantic refutation doesn't work. The Greek word used in the verses I posted specifically refers to worship and reverence, not love or respect.Worshiped (loved, revered and respected) as being the Messiah sent by God, not worshiped as being God Himself.
Every knee shall bow before Christ, remember?
John
5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son (Enoch 58:1; 60:11; 68:39):
5:23 That all [men] should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
Abigail also worshiped David, and Sarah called Abraham lord. Obviously, that did not mean that David was God, or that Abraham was God (which should be clear to anyone with a reasonable amount of common sense).
Are you saying Christ is God?the Scriptures themselves, which clearly tell us that Christ is THE KING OF KINGS and LORD OF LORDS.
It could be interesting to hear if A Freeman (which is a masonic term btw) thinks Christ is God.Are you saying Christ is God?