Imagine a world with shariah law.

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Today Saudi Arabia does not enforce Shariah law, but the tweet does raise a good point.

Give an inch and they will want to take a mile.



This is a major difference in Islam and Christianity as i have come to know them. In the US, church and state were severed a long time ago.

While in Islam, the religion is a complete way of life. Islam literally has a say in everything. Marriage, death, divorce rights, heir's inheritance. You name it.

As it should be, especially when you know / believe that life only has one purpose and that we are here to serve God. So God should have a say in every facet of your life.

Saudi Arabia, land of the 2 holy mosques, is becoming a dark place.
 

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Goy are cattle because the Talmud describes the goy as cattle (for the Jews). It is not the meaning of the word. The literal meaning is simply "nation" or "people". There are about a dozen Hebrew words denoting cattle or stock, herd, flock, beef, etc. in the Bible and none of them is goy.

Baqar: cattle, herd, ox.
Behema: cattle, animal.
Beir: cattle, beast
Meri': fatlings, fat cattle.
Miqneh: cattle.
Egel: calf.
Eleph: word for 'thousand' and 'oxen'.
Par: young bull.
Shor: head of cattle.

None of them are goy.

It explains a lot that you'd get your info from reddit, but try sticking to the facts.

And again, I am a goy, so don't treat this as an ad hominem rather than a critique on your proselytism to submit people to a politico-religious law.

For the rest, your salty accusations of me being a liar or having a too big ego are petty and too pathetic to address.
I'm not gonna argue with you anymore. Serve your ego by talking to yourself.

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:) Just like Beem, isn't he?

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Gotta feed that ego.

Still, I'm happy to have a palace built for me in the middle of paradise by walking away.
 

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How's that even possible knowing that every Sahih Bukhari hadith is authentic? I accepted the fact that she got married at the age of 6 and the marriage was consummated when she was 9 years old. As it was stated in Sahih Bukhari. I cannot cherry-pick a hadith or verse and neglect the others or pick some and go: "Okay, I like this hadith, this hadith is nice, and i will ignore this hadith because I don't like it. It doesn't sound nice." She was 6 years old, and consummated at the age of 9.

I'm saying this because there isn't a single Sahih Bukhari hadith that is false or a daif (weak). They're authentic hadiths whether people like it or not.
Also, another note, and something I have noticed with a bunch of people now a days. Guys, we live in the year of 2023. Everything was bloody different hundred years ago, let alone 1400 years ago and more.
Everything was different. It's not rocket science.

It was completely normal to marry a child during that time. Hell, there were a bunch of famous English kings who married children. The most famous one was King Richard the 2nd of England who married a 6-year-old child.
Child marriages were not uncommon in the medieval age and even before the medieval age.
 
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Today Saudi Arabia does not enforce Shariah law, but the tweet does raise a good point.

Give an inch and they will want to take a mile.



This is a major difference in Islam and Christianity as i have come to know them. In the US, church and state were severed a long time ago.

While in Islam, the religion is a complete way of life. Islam literally has a say in everything. Marriage, death, divorce rights, heir's inheritance. You name it.

As it should be, especially when you know / believe that life only has one purpose and that we are here to serve God. So God should have a say in every facet of your life.

Saudi Arabia, land of the 2 holy mosques, is becoming a dark place.
This is intriguing. I'm not that familiar with what's happening in Saudi Araba, although, @DesertRose did create this thread about it here:


I actually think I read years ago that the regime is actually consists of Jesuits or kabbalists masquerading as Muslims. That could very well be the case with all things considered.
 

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This is intriguing. I'm not that familiar with what's happening in Saudi Araba, although, @DesertRose did create this thread about it here:


I actually think I read years ago that the regime is actually consists of Jesuits or kabbalists masquerading as Muslims. That could very well be the case with all things considered.
Alot of people have said the house of Saud (rulers) are Jewish. Theres a decent amount of evidence to support this claim.

Also, there is a famous hadith Where the prophet (saw) was asking God to "bless this and that.".. and the people said "and our Najd" (which is the Saudi Arabian area) and he said the horns of satan will come out of Najd.

What sits at the top of Mecca today?

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Literally the horns of satan.

Today nearly every nation is corrupt, this includes alleged Muslim ones.

I am not speaking about their people of course, but the rulers.
 

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How's that even possible knowing that every Sahih Bukhari hadith is authentic? I accepted the fact that she got married at the age of 6 and the marriage was consummated when she was 9 years old. As it was stated in Sahih Bukhari. I cannot cherry-pick a hadith or verse and neglect the others or pick some and go: "Okay, I like this hadith, this hadith is nice, and i will ignore this hadith because I don't like it. It doesn't sound nice." She was 6 years old, and consummated at the age of 9.

I'm saying this because there isn't a single Sahih Bukhari hadith that is false or a daif (weak). They're authentic hadiths whether people like it or not.
Also, another note, and something I have noticed with a bunch of people now a days. Guys, we live in the year of 2023. Everything was bloody different hundred years ago, let alone 1400 years ago and more.
Everything was different. It's not rocket science.

It was completely normal to marry a child during that time. Hell, there were a bunch of famous English kings who married children. The most famous one was King Richard the 2nd of England who married a 6-year-old child.
Child marriages were not uncommon in the medieval age and even before the medieval age.
Problem is akhi, today we live in a very indoctrinated society. People have been conditioned to push marriage off as late as possible while being educated on sex directly from the womb.

Today the CDC says sex ed should begin in the 0-6 yr old range.

All this does is encourage fornication. Especially during the hormonal years.

Of course i don't condone p***philia in any way, shape or form. There is not a single Muslim on this planet that does. But marriage is not p***philia, Its literally the exact opposite. Fornication compared to 1 life long partner.

To be fair marriage doesn't mean much in the west these days. Those who actually go through it don't last. The divorce rate is staggering at like 50%.

Many (especially here) will never use such logic due to an innate hatred of what God has sent down. The Quran calls the Prophet thee example and anyone who can take off their liberal goggles long enough to see who the man actually was. Can easily see why. Many non-Muslim historians praised the man (saw) and rightly so.

Just imagine all of the millions who have hated the prophet (saw), if not billions in the past 1400 years. Not a single one has brought up Aisha's age beyond 100 years because it was a normal practice that the entirety of mankind frequently engaged in.
 

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The problem is with child marriage, it is the girl child who is going to bear pregnancy and the rest of the issues. Do not tell me that a child completely develops at the age of 9. You people have no idea, because you people are living in the part of world where there already are child laws protecting them and you people rally against pedophilic agendas openly. I'm from Asia, you don't have any idea what goes around here where the mortality rate of girl children giving birth is all time high. Let's think critically for a second an average mullah here in Pakistan / India, they are not equipped with critical thinking. The child grooming goes hand in hand due to cultural difference. My point is Islam is a deen for all time and all the people, how could it be possible that it won't consider something so crucial. I don't consider myself as a Liberal but heck no, I'm not in favour of Shariah Law either. The elite and ignorant will use it for their own gain. Giving examples of west does not contradicts what's happening here on the name of religion. Two wrongs don't make a right.
There is a reason God gave girls and boys both the ability to start families at a young age. Indeed we were designed with this capability.

I live in a world that has normalized sex without marriage and that's literally what it is. Fornication on the global scale. If we go back 100 years we find a completely different reality across the entire globe.

As has been mentioned many times before, young marriage was extremely common and is easily proven.

If you'd be so kind to look into your own family tree and let us know how far you have to go back to find it. If i was a betting man I'd say within 3 generations.

Problem is propaganda, we are bomb barded with it. If what the prophet (saw) did with Aisha was actually harmful for her, would the Almighty have called him the example for all of mankind? Aisha was not 16, you need to let this lie go.

I am not a proponent of young marriage today due to being American and seeing alot of people living with their parents well into their 30's. Yesterday a boy had to work, he had to grow up quickly. There was no 12 years of school then 4 years of college then look for a wife. Not even close.

Today kids 20, 25, 30 years old are living in their parents basement playing video games all day.
It is not the same. But it is ridiculous to say pregnancy can harm a younger girl when God gave her this ability.
Can a young woman have complications in pregnancy? Sure, but so can an older woman. All is Gods will.

Welcome to the age of deceit where knowledge is being actively removed.

May the Creator separate the truth from falsehood for us.
 
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Who has a gun makes the law. Who doesn't have a gun avoids those who have guns for as long as possible. Too many laws too many guns. Human nature being what it is I don't trust anyone who has a gun or anyone making the law.
 

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Who has a gun makes the law. Who doesn't have a gun avoids those who have guns for as long as possible. Too many laws too many guns. Human nature being what it is I don't trust anyone who has a gun or anyone making the law.
I think its important to hold to Gods laws otherwise man's laws take over.

The truth is in the US, there are so many laws on the books they can arrest you for just about anything. For example there are still states that have spitting in the street made illegal sitting in their books.

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This is just a small example, there are libraries full of laws recorded and on the books. If they want to take you down they will enforce any one of these things.

Not that they are needed, the Patriot Act stripped pretty much every right away to begin with.
 
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If what the prophet (saw) did with Aisha was actually harmful for her, would the Almighty have called him the example for all of mankind?
Or another, probably more sound rationale would be: could God really call this behaviour exemplary for all mankind? Or does this look like someone used alleged divine revelation to justify his own transgressions? Because if such behaviour is exemplary for all mankind, forever, what are the moral justifications to outlaw it today? Surely people don't know better than the Almighty.
 
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I think its important to hold to Gods laws otherwise man's laws take over.

The truth is in the US, there are so many laws on the books they can arrest you for just about anything. For example there are still states that have spitting in the street made illegal sitting in their books.

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This is just a small example, there are libraries full of laws recorded and on the books. If they want to take you down they will enforce any one of these things.

Not that they are needed, the Patriot Act stripped pretty much every right away to begin with.
Actually I am for the law against spitting in public. Not only is spitting unhealthy it is disrespectful. Also what about the separation between church and state. While I like some aspects of Sharia law I don't like to be told what to do by any religion.
 
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Goy is the Jewish word for cattle, beast, lower life form.

If i called you cattle, would you say that's a compliment?


Once again Art, what are you doing in this thread? You have never liked Islam since I've known you for like 7 years now and you have taken every opportunity to crap on it.

When the KKK comments on Christianity, is it relevant?

If your not here to attack and insult, then i am Bill Gates.



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Makes one wonder where these demons come from.


old testament law is FROM GOD
the law pertains to the submission of the ego
the cross pertains to the DEATH of the ego

The law = islam, perfect submission to the Will of God
The Cross = IHSAN, the highest level of faith, the total death of the ego and hence unity of consciousness rather than duality of self and God.

unfortunately, the Cross is a dead symbol. it's lost it's power, it's purpose etc which is why xtianity is dead and n/a against the power of sin.

Just as God saw fit to give the Israelites the law of Moses, after they were previously in a state of 'grace/faith', so God saw fit to give the gentiles a global law, after the trinitarian doctrine murdered christianity..and the cross lost it's power, becoming a symbol of roman imperialism rather than the death of the ego.

these xtians, are not worthy of being called CHRISTIAN. they're on some other pagan shit.
 
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Artful has an image of the posterboy of roman orientalist elitism.
ie what Jesus represented to Rome, was the archetypal jewish king, who submits and dies to the power of rome.

literally Rome inverted the cross, it isnt even about the death of the ego, it is about 'even your messiah submitted to us and we murdered him'
this is why they championed Jesus the most...and then the cross became the symbol of roman imperialism, under the same idea, of murdering every powerful thoughtform and collective archetype.

where are the real christians?
 

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Actually I am for the law against spitting in public. Not only is spitting unhealthy it is disrespectful. Also what about the separation between church and state. While I like some aspects of Sharia law I don't like to be told what to do by any religion.
The point is they have alot of silly laws on the books to where they can lock you up if you ever become a person of interest.
For example in that link i shared, it shows its a crime to mispronounce the word Arkansas in Arkansas.

No one likes being told what to do really, but God knows best all matters. Pretty much everything he sent down is for your benefit in this life and in the next.

Thing is we have a pixel. He has the picture.

Seeing most of the world is openly satanic today, we can see alot of the wisdom in divine law. Such as LGTV and Usury. When they become wide spread the damage from them is real.

old testament law is FROM GOD


these xtians, are not worthy of being called CHRISTIAN. they're on some other pagan shit.
I agree on both counts. I have tried pointing out the paganism in Christianity like Easter and X-mas.. but most of it falls on deaf ears here.

For the record Art is not a Christian. He's said before he was a Gnostic. If this has changed then God knows best.
 
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Or another, probably more sound rationale would be: could God really call this behaviour exemplary for all mankind? Or does this look like someone used alleged divine revelation to justify his own transgressions? Because if such behaviour is exemplary for all mankind, forever, what are the moral justifications to outlaw it today? Surely people don't know better than the Almighty.

ive covered this topic many times before and ill do it again
if you posess any sincerity in you, you'll think through what im about to say

1) forget what other muslims say, they are dumb.

hadith are not 'facts', they are historical sources of information, all different, all random....and should be treated on a case by case basis.
the 'saheeh' thing, means those imams (imam bukhari, muslim etc) determined by their own logic, reason and political bias/influence that those sources were verified/trustworthy...but that doesnt mean the actual information within the source is.
you can have a legitimate historical source of information, that was a lie or propaganda.
the only reason mainstream sunnis inc muhammed hijab never ever criticise the hadith, is because they are under sectarian influence and think it is easier to just say 'nah aisha hit puberty' rather than the other.

2) the abbasid caliphate was in competition with the shia movement which, back then, had greater influence and numbers than today (percentage wise). The shia have their own hadith with their own people/sources.

One of the ways the shia tried to discredit the sunni side, was to attack the character of Aisha. s
you can google science this one mate....'shia hate aisha' 'shia curse aisha'
they accuse her of adultery, of being a horrible and even a murderous wife. it is insane.
the abbasid response was to instead create the image of a perfect, innocent child bride...hence that hadith.

3) the same hadith collection, Bukhari, contains this hadith
(the wife of the Prophet) I had seen my parents following Islam since I attained the age of puberty. Not a day passed but the Prophet (ﷺ) visited us, both in the mornings and evenings. My father Abu Bakr thought of building a mosque in the courtyard of his house and he did so. He used to pray and recite the Qur'an in it. The pagan women and their children used to stand by him and look at him with surprise. Abu Bakr was a Softhearted person and could not help weeping while reciting the Qur'an. The chiefs of the Quraish pagans became afraid of that (i.e. that their children and women might be affected by the recitation of Qur'an).

Note, i dont trust muzzies either btw..and these muzzies have blagged the word 'puberty' into this RECENTLY. it never used to say puberty. the arabic literally says عُقَيْلٍ، AKKAL ie intelligence.
in islam/muslim thinking, the age of intelligence/akkal is when we're around 7, past infancy..and know right from wrong and can form chronolical order in our memories etc. prior to that most of our memories are like a dream, without structure. it is when we're around 7, we can understand chronology.

i fucking despise muslim quran/hadith translators, they are every bit as corrupt as any historical jewish scribe 'corrupting the book'
they only discredit islam even when there is no need.


SO...aisha was at least 7 when her father embraced islam, when Mohammad was 40...
that would make her age 20 when she married Mohammad age 53 (or was it consumated at that age)?
this makes sense..because Aisha was already engaged to a man prior to marrying Mohammad.

the hadith that make Aisha a child bridge, are deeply influenced by abbasid-shia political warfare...

the reason the hadith scholars on both sides ARE ALL PERSIAN is because persia became the centre of islamic rule via the abbasids.
if you posess some degree of know how, you can see through the political agendas in hadith and know which ones are fake

@Daze the hadith of 'the carriers of the black flag' in relation to the Mahdi, is a forgery.
it rips off from the Bahman Yast, which itself is a jewish forgerty of Daniel, designed to ferment war between persia and rome..and thus attain the mesianic dream. then Mohammad manifested into the world, by virtue of the leviticus 26 'punishments' theme, as a collective guilt complex...
in otherwords, the jews created and shaped Mohammad and he materialised as an arab by virtue of their own collective guilt complex.

meanwhile today the jews are attempting to reverse the polarity created in the past...to undo islam and persia, ie to bring about that messiah.
yet the muslim Mahdi figure, a byproduct and a forgery of the bahman yast forgery itself....only leads to dajjal..and ironically i believe the same process with jewish messianicism, leads to the actual Mahdi.

it's all topsy turvy subconscious law of attraction shit going on.
but that's my personal take.

the abbasids were a brutal, murderous caliphate though. they def did persecute and murder actual bloodline descendants of prophet Mohammad aswell, which is why the hate is so strong against Aisha who began the entire anti-Ali uprising from, day 1.
 
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What does Sharia law say about having green and purple hair and nose and lip rings and covering your body with tattoos etc. On a lighter note in Michigan or somewhere Muslims gained control of the city council and declared it against the law for any LGQBSWTF to be displayed on public property and now the woke liberals are saying that the Muslims have betrayed them claiming that they helped get them elected LOL.
 
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