Human Beings Are The Fallen Angels Who Fought Alongside Lucifer

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The Book of Enoch is Scripture.
It was the Great Whore, who tried to get it removed from circulation.
But see, the Great Whore failed.
Jesus and his disciples quoted from it so there is no doubt whatsoever that it is Scripture.
You should really stop following after the Great Whore and start trusting Jesus and his disciples and read the Book of Enoch.
No, it’s not scripture otherwise it would be in the Bible.
 






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The truth is painful for the ego... but the truth is the truth. Deep down, we all know it's true.

The "ego" (enemy within) does not want people to be able to see or admit this as being the obvious truth though, because a blow like that causes the ego to immediately start losing it's power, because it causes the ego to deflate.
I'm respectfully going to disagree on this one. You have other beliefs right but this one is far-fetched. The fallen angels vs the nephilim is probably what you have trouble understanding.

The fallen angels are still among us. The ones who fell from Yahweh's grace and disapproval because they decided it was more important to marry women to satisfy their desires and flat out turn against God, yes those are still here on this earth. Those very same demons that sinned against God are the same ones inflicting pain and suffering.
Genesis 6:2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all that they chose.
Revelation 12:7-9 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels going forth to war with the dragon; and the dragon warred and his angels; 8 And they prevailed not, neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast down, the old serpent, he that is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world; he was cast down to the earth, and his angels were cast down with him.


The nephilim were the sons of those demons that took human bodies to procreate with their human wives.
Genesis 6:4 The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them: the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.


These nephilim were so wicked and created such a horrible environment, that Yahweh had to cleanse the earth of those wicked half human half demon beings. That is why Yahweh brought the deluge or great flood. The Nephilim are LONG GONE.
Genesis 6:13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth

Genesis 7:12, 13 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights. 13 In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah’s wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;

Since the demons are still roaming the earth we are urged to take measures:
Ephesians 6:11, Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places .
 






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No, it’s not scripture otherwise it would be in the Bible.
This long hidden "Book of Enoch and Noah", which originally was part of the Holy Bible; and was wrongfully removed by powerful evil people who did not want you to read it, because of what it says about them; is the missing-link and binding-tie between The Holy Bible and The Holy Koran and it contains proof that the original Holy Koran, contained in God's newly completed "King of kings' Bible", is undoubtedly from The Ruler of The Universe (God/Allah), and, when correctly interpreted, it is in perfect harmony with the Bible (see chapter 104).

The Book of Enoch was acknowledged as Holy Scripture by Jesus the Nazarite; by his half-brothers James and Jude; by all of his Apostles and the whole Christian Church for several centuries before Mohammed Mustafa was given the Holy Koran, in which Enoch is greatly praised by God and we are told that God "raised him to a lofty station". This praise is also recorded in the section of The Apocrypha called "The Wisdom of Joshua the son of Sirach", also known as "Ecclesiasticus".

This extremely precious "Book of Enoch"; a Book of "immeasurable importance"; throws much Light on the thinking of God, and also of Jesus and of his Apostles Paul and Peter. All regarded it as Sacred Holy Scripture and quoted from it; as did also Jesus' half-brothers James and Jude. It should therefore be readily accepted not only by Moslems but also by all Christians, and; because of God's very high-regard for His Prophet Enoch expressed by Him in The Torah; Jewish people too. Hopefully that will result in the uniting of all three as one, as God is One.
 






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This long hidden "Book of Enoch and Noah", which originally was part of the Holy Bible; and was wrongfully removed by powerful evil people who did not want you to read it, because of what it says about them; is the missing-link and binding-tie between The Holy Bible and The Holy Koran and it contains proof that the original Holy Koran, contained in God's newly completed "King of kings' Bible", is undoubtedly from The Ruler of The Universe (God/Allah), and, when correctly interpreted, it is in perfect harmony with the Bible (see chapter 104).

The Book of Enoch was acknowledged as Holy Scripture by Jesus the Nazarite; by his half-brothers James and Jude; by all of his Apostles and the whole Christian Church for several centuries before Mohammed Mustafa was given the Holy Koran, in which Enoch is greatly praised by God and we are told that God "raised him to a lofty station". This praise is also recorded in the section of The Apocrypha called "The Wisdom of Joshua the son of Sirach", also known as "Ecclesiasticus".

This extremely precious "Book of Enoch"; a Book of "immeasurable importance"; throws much Light on the thinking of God, and also of Jesus and of his Apostles Paul and Peter. All regarded it as Sacred Holy Scripture and quoted from it; as did also Jesus' half-brothers James and Jude. It should therefore be readily accepted not only by Moslems but also by all Christians, and; because of God's very high-regard for His Prophet Enoch expressed by Him in The Torah; Jewish people too. Hopefully that will result in the uniting of all three as one, as God is One.
I think it just goes to show what happens when you add false gospels to the actual gospel...
a little leaven leavens the whole lump!
 






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I'm respectfully going to disagree on this one. You have other beliefs right but this one is far-fetched. The fallen angels vs the nephilim is probably what you have trouble understanding.

The fallen angels are still among us. The ones who fell from Yahweh's grace and disapproval because they decided it was more important to marry women to satisfy their desires and flat out turn against God, yes those are still here on this earth. Those very same demons that sinned against God are the same ones inflicting pain and suffering.
Genesis 6:2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all that they chose.
Revelation 12:7-9 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels going forth to war with the dragon; and the dragon warred and his angels; 8 And they prevailed not, neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast down, the old serpent, he that is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world; he was cast down to the earth, and his angels were cast down with him.


The nephilim were the sons of those demons that took human bodies to procreate with their human wives.
Genesis 6:4 The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them: the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.


These nephilim were so wicked and created such a horrible environment, that Yahweh had to cleanse the earth of those wicked half human half demon beings. That is why Yahweh brought the deluge or great flood. The Nephilim are LONG GONE.
Genesis 6:13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth

Genesis 7:12, 13 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights. 13 In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah’s wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;

Since the demons are still roaming the earth we are urged to take measures:
Ephesians 6:11, Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places .
In Enoch it goes into much more detail than it does in Genesis. I don't know if you have read, or if you accept the book of Enoch as valid, so in case you don't, then you may not wish to read the rest of the post, because I have quoted from it.

The Book of Enoch identifies the angels who fell during the time of Enoch, as a different and much smaller group of beings (Watchers) and not as the 1/3 of the angels who fell due to the war that took place in heaven.

Enoch
12:1 Before all these things Enoch was concealed; nor did any one of the sons of men know where he was concealed, where he had been, and what had happened.
12:2 He was wholly engaged with the holy ones (Gen. 5:24), and with the Watchers in his days.
12:3 I, Enoch, was blessing the great Lord and King of Peace (Gen. 14:18).
12:4 And behold the Watchers called me Enoch the scribe (writer - the first Prophet).

What the Book of Enoch mentions, is that a small group of Watchers (numbering only 200 in total) decided to descend to the earth.

Enoch
7:7 Then they swore all together, and all bound themselves by mutual oaths. Their whole number was two hundred, who descended upon Ardis, which is the top of Mount Armon.

It says the ones who did this numbered only 200, and when comparing that to the numbers that Jude gave for the angels that will come with the Lord, then it can be seen that 200 angels cannot possibly account for a full 1/3rd of the angels of heaven:

Jude
1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of His holy warriors,

It says The Lord will come with ten thousands of his holy warriors or angels from heaven (where 2/3 of the faithful angels still are - the remaining angels, who sided with Michael and fought along with Michael against Lucifer, and who were therefore not cast out) and these angels are also called holy warriors.

Therefore, the 200 Watchers who descended during the time of Enoch, cannot possibly be the 1/3rd of the angels who fell from heaven (Rev. 12:4), since then there would only have been 600 angels in total, which we know is wrong, because it says when the Lord comes, there will be tens of thousands of the angels with Him.
 






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Adam's mission was to win Eve over to God's side through being obedient to God, but then instead of that, Adam failed by letting (Satan through) Eve win him over.

Because of this Christ came, in order that he might remove the separation which was from the beginning, and again unite the two; and that he might give life to those who died in the separation, and unite them (in serving God).


'At the time of creation of woman, the suitable companion for Adam, it should be noted that woman is to be man's helper. The one is the complement of the other, therefore they are a perfect unity, under Divine direction.

But after their act of disobedience, that unity is lost; the harmony between them becomes discord, and they no longer have confidence in each other. The man blames the woman for his state, and she blames the power that tempted her. But, it could well be that in time; rather than acknowledge her crime and accept her own responsibility for it; she would blame the man for not preventing her action, so that a growing tension between them is inevitable.

Divine intervention with Law for this new condition of the sinning creatures, places authority in the man, and the woman hears the pronouncement, "thy desire [shall be subject] to thy husband, and HE SHALL RULE OVER THEE". (Gen. 3:16)

A supreme authority there must be to maintain order. When the unity of man and woman was obedient to the "I AM", there was peace on Earth, the ultimate authority resting on the One Source.

But in discord between man and woman and between that unit in separation from the "I AM", restoration of law and order must be movement from the Godhead to the creatures. So the demonstration of this is set up by the "I AM" proclaiming that in the first being (man) remains Authority, whether in Divine Presence or degraded, sinful humanity.

Obedience then to Divine Law is the means whereby the man and woman recover their contact with the "I AM", and is also the means of bringing peace between themselves. Thus unity, harmony and peace are again shown to be in obedience to Divine Authority.'

'If the woman had not separated from the man, and had not gone apart from him to talk to Satan, deciding to believe Satan in preference to God, thereby calling God the liar, she would not die with and have caused the man to die. His separation through worshipping the woman first rather than God became the beginning of death. Because of this Christ came, in order that he might remove the separation which was from the beginning, and again unite the two; and that he might give life to those who died in the separation, and unite them (in serving God). But the woman is united to the man in the "Bridal Chamber". Only those who have united in "The Bridal Chamber" (of God) will no longer be separated. Because of this Eve separated from Adam, because she was not united to him in the "Bridal Chamber" of God, and went to serve Satan in his world where he comes between man and woman and between both of them and God.'


 






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Adam's mission was to win Eve over to God's side through being obedient to God, but then instead of that, Adam failed by letting (Satan through) Eve win him over.

Because of this Christ came, in order that he might remove the separation which was from the beginning, and again unite the two; and that he might give life to those who died in the separation, and unite them (in serving God).


'At the time of creation of woman, the suitable companion for Adam, it should be noted that woman is to be man's helper. The one is the complement of the other, therefore they are a perfect unity, under Divine direction.

But after their act of disobedience, that unity is lost; the harmony between them becomes discord, and they no longer have confidence in each other. The man blames the woman for his state, and she blames the power that tempted her. But, it could well be that in time; rather than acknowledge her crime and accept her own responsibility for it; she would blame the man for not preventing her action, so that a growing tension between them is inevitable.

Divine intervention with Law for this new condition of the sinning creatures, places authority in the man, and the woman hears the pronouncement, "thy desire [shall be subject] to thy husband, and HE SHALL RULE OVER THEE". (Gen. 3:16)

A supreme authority there must be to maintain order. When the unity of man and woman was obedient to the "I AM", there was peace on Earth, the ultimate authority resting on the One Source.

But in discord between man and woman and between that unit in separation from the "I AM", restoration of law and order must be movement from the Godhead to the creatures. So the demonstration of this is set up by the "I AM" proclaiming that in the first being (man) remains Authority, whether in Divine Presence or degraded, sinful humanity.

Obedience then to Divine Law is the means whereby the man and woman recover their contact with the "I AM", and is also the means of bringing peace between themselves. Thus unity, harmony and peace are again shown to be in obedience to Divine Authority.'

'If the woman had not separated from the man, and had not gone apart from him to talk to Satan, deciding to believe Satan in preference to God, thereby calling God the liar, she would not die with and have caused the man to die. His separation through worshipping the woman first rather than God became the beginning of death. Because of this Christ came, in order that he might remove the separation which was from the beginning, and again unite the two; and that he might give life to those who died in the separation, and unite them (in serving God). But the woman is united to the man in the "Bridal Chamber". Only those who have united in "The Bridal Chamber" (of God) will no longer be separated. Because of this Eve separated from Adam, because she was not united to him in the "Bridal Chamber" of God, and went to serve Satan in his world where he comes between man and woman and between both of them and God.'


Making up the story, as you go, only furthers the divide... which is the idea, I imagine.

When the woman saw that the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eyes, and that it was desirable for obtaining wisdom, she took the fruit and ate it.
She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.​

Prince Charming was there the whole time.

Both parties are actually responsible, here. Your scenario, which assigns all power to Women to save the world, makes men impotent bystanders, forced to await Her decision to acquiesce... or not.

I would venture most women would lean heavily toward *not* in your cowardly vision, but like all of J-Hall's other freewheelin interpretations of the bible, this one is also false.

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Making up the story, as you go, only furthers the divide... which is the idea, I imagine.
No and the opposite.
When the woman saw that the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eyes, and that it was desirable for obtaining wisdom, she took the fruit and ate it.
She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.​

Prince Charming was there the whole time.

Both parties are actually responsible, here.
Of course. Eve listened to (Satan speaking through) the serpent and then obeyed it (Satan), rather than obeying what God had told Adam and her.

Adam then listened to Satan (who was speaking through) Eve and obeyed her, because of loving her more, instead of loving and obeying God first and the most (1st Commandment).
Your scenario, which assigns all power to Women to save the world, makes men impotent bystanders, forced to await Her decision to acquiesce... or not.

I would venture most women would lean heavily toward *not* in your cowardly vision, but like all of J-Hall's other freewheelin interpretations of the bible, this one is also false.

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It's not all up to the one or to the other; it's both.


"Man has fallen from grace by denying his first state [of Being]. He has listened to the misleading of the serpent (Lucifer), clothed in deceptive authority. The serpent promised to make man superior to God if he followed his advice. From generation to generation man has added to error and sin, separated from the household of the Elect and divided the family of God (Israel) into tribes opposing one another.

"God will not answer the supplication of one neither of another tribe, for God is God of ALL. God leaves mankind to the fate they create for themselves. Following the paths that lead away FROM Paradice man corrupts The Covenant and creates laws* that breed discrimination. From generation to generation man has lengthened the path to God until the sight of Him is lost beyond space. With the aid of mechanics and chemistry man has created Shekhenah** (the illusion of his own greatness) and the [inner] Voice has thus fallen into self-delusion.


* Malachi 2:8-9 - "Ye have caused many to stumble at the law; ye have corrupted The Covenant; ye have been biased in the Law."

** Shekhenah - "Manifestation of the Glory of the Lord." Ex. 33:23 "Thou shalt see my back parts, but my face shall not be seen."


"With filth and dung have ye besmirched one another's characters until the last sign of recognition has fallen from your countenance and the mark of the beast alone remains to testify against ye."

"The eyes of man see the great acts of the Lord everywhere and the ears hear His Wonders, still he turns away from His Face and goes the way of the adversary (Lucifer - Satan). Man loves to be honoured and worshipped by the lesser breed, and revel in sins swaying the sceptre of death over his own kith and kin, in making them subjects to himself (instead of to God).

"Each generation testifies to the follies of their many creations; yea, how the mighty have fallen and their weapons of war perish; still the eyes of man are held that they cannot see abomination. Not content with the only God, man sets up idols of heroes, created by fancy, and raises monuments and statues to their honour, following in the ways of corruption that all human rulers sow - for he who is with God takes no honour to himself. To God alone be Glory, even unto Him Who is our Abba, the Father of all.

"They who follow the advice of the serpent (Lucifer) remain in the pit of sorrow and their blood continues to return upon them, while the yoke into which they are caught grows heavier...



..."This same Jesus, whom the Greek brethren call Christ, and the Covenanters recognize as Soshiosh, has suffered, so that all who recognize him may turn away from the [so-called] wisdom of this world and return to Abba, Who is the true Father.

"The stiffneckedness (arrogant obstinacy) of heart and ears may resist the good and Holy Spirit, persecute the Prophets, betray and slay the Just One, but once the measure of inequity is full to overflowing, even they must bathe in the pool of blood which they prepared.

"He who suffered upon the cross realised in the great drama of life the cunningness of the old serpent and annulled its power when he exclaimed: "Abba, forgive them for they know not what they do (they are insane)!" With that injunction the path is open for the return of the Prodigal to Abba.

"Man's ONLY salvation lies in leaving Satan and his claim and going The Way of the Just One to God and His paradice.

"As by woman, taking the advice of an intercepter, sin has entered mind and heart, generating havoc during the period of gestation*, casting generations into the fiery furnace of consummation, even so by woman (Israel) alone redemption shall come to the race, turning away from interception, returning to the counsel of Abba, Who is our Father, she shall with silent contempt deny the power of the Tempter**. She shall behold the glory of the Lord coming from the East*** and endow her offspring with the powers of salvation, raising saviours upon the eminence of all the nations. She (Israel) shall cease to be intimidated by suggestions, and follow ONLY the counsel of the Lord unto the redemption of the race. "By the disposition of the prayer of the faithful God has raised Christ from amongst the inequities of many nations that all the people should confess their waywardness. Satan and his followers hold in their possession all men, but freedom from bondage comes to all who follow in the footsteps of Christ, the first-fruit of resurrection from the grave of superstition and the death of ignorance (of the Truth).


* 1 Timothy 2:14-15 - "But the woman being deceived was in the transgression; notwithstanding she shall obtain salvation in child-bearing, if continued in holiness."

** Gen. 3:15 - "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." Matt. 3:7; 13:38; 23:33; John 8:35; Acts 13:10; 1 John 3:8; Psalm 132:2; Isaiah 7:14; Micah 5:3; Matt. 1:23-25; Luke 1:31; Gal. 4:4; Rom. 14:20; Col. 2:15; Heb. 2:14; 1 John 5:5; Rev. 12:7-17.

*** Ezekiel 43:2 - "The glory of the Lord came from the East: and His Voice was like the sound of many waters; and the earth shone with His Glory."


"He has gained victory over the grave and removed the sting of death, henceforth and evermore glorifying Abba Who sent him....

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Making up the story, as you go, only furthers the divide... which is the idea, I imagine.

When the woman saw that the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eyes, and that it was desirable for obtaining wisdom, she took the fruit and ate it.
She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.​

Prince Charming was there the whole time.

Both parties are actually responsible, here. Your scenario, which assigns all power to Women to save the world, makes men impotent bystanders, forced to await Her decision to acquiesce... or not.

I would venture most women would lean heavily toward *not* in your cowardly vision, but like all of J-Hall's other freewheelin interpretations of the bible, this one is also false.

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Anyone else sick of the fake bible verses from John Anthony Hill's disciples?

They still have refused to show his qualifications to translate Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic etc, to create the "true" translation of the Bible and Quran, which conveniently reveal only HE has the real truth because he is Jesus reincarnated (according to Hill himself).

Again, Jesus' Second Coming will be visible by everyone. Jesus will not be reincarnated.

Acts 1:10 And while they [the apostles] looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
 






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Anyone else sick of the fake bible verses from John Anthony Hill's disciples?

They still have refused to show his qualifications to translate Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic etc, to create the "true" translation of the Bible and Quran, which conveniently reveal only HE has the real truth because he is Jesus reincarnated (according to Hill himself).

Again, Jesus' Second Coming will be visible by everyone. Jesus will not be reincarnated.

Acts 1:10 And while they [the apostles] looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
What I think is kinda funny is they are nice to you until you show them you’re not as easily brainwashed as they are..then they aren’t so nice.

Edit..Why would I as a woman want to follow someone who’d only tell me to sit down and shut up woman!? lol!
 






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The Book of Enoch is Scripture.
It was the Great Whore, who tried to get it removed from circulation.
But see, the Great Whore failed.
Jesus and his disciples quoted from it so there is no doubt whatsoever that it is Scripture.
You should really stop following after the Great Whore and start trusting Jesus and his disciples and read the Book of Enoch.
If it was meant to be added to the Bible then God would have allowed it to happen. After all these years he has not allowed it to be added to his Holy word for a reason.
 






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In Enoch it goes into much more detail than it does in Genesis. I don't know if you have read, or if you accept the book of Enoch as valid, so in case you don't, then you may not wish to read the rest of the post, because I have quoted from it.

The Book of Enoch identifies the angels who fell during the time of Enoch, as a different and much smaller group of beings (Watchers) and not as the 1/3 of the angels who fell due to the war that took place in heaven.

Enoch
12:1 Before all these things Enoch was concealed; nor did any one of the sons of men know where he was concealed, where he had been, and what had happened.
12:2 He was wholly engaged with the holy ones (Gen. 5:24), and with the Watchers in his days.
12:3 I, Enoch, was blessing the great Lord and King of Peace (Gen. 14:18).
12:4 And behold the Watchers called me Enoch the scribe (writer - the first Prophet).

What the Book of Enoch mentions, is that a small group of Watchers (numbering only 200 in total) decided to descend to the earth.

Enoch
7:7 Then they swore all together, and all bound themselves by mutual oaths. Their whole number was two hundred, who descended upon Ardis, which is the top of Mount Armon.

It says the ones who did this numbered only 200, and when comparing that to the numbers that Jude gave for the angels that will come with the Lord, then it can be seen that 200 angels cannot possibly account for a full 1/3rd of the angels of heaven:

Jude
1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of His holy warriors,

It says The Lord will come with ten thousands of his holy warriors or angels from heaven (where 2/3 of the faithful angels still are - the remaining angels, who sided with Michael and fought along with Michael against Lucifer, and who were therefore not cast out) and these angels are also called holy warriors.

Therefore, the 200 Watchers who descended during the time of Enoch, cannot possibly be the 1/3rd of the angels who fell from heaven (Rev. 12:4), since then there would only have been 600 angels in total, which we know is wrong, because it says when the Lord comes, there will be tens of thousands of the angels with Him.
But see, we don't want to read more into what the fallen angels (demons) did or give them more attention than the word of our God Almighty. We acknowledge their presence and that they are extremely evil, perverse and wicked, but we don't want to spend time reading in detail or giving them or their deeds so much attention. Just enough for our personal knowledge, not too much to where they can sense we're interested in them.

Remember Yahweh made "Miriads upon Miriads of Angels" and a the third that did fall is still A LOT of evil angels that are roaming this earth.
 






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But see, we don't want to read more into what the fallen angels (demons) did or give them more attention than the word of our God Almighty. We acknowledge their presence and that they are extremely evil, perverse and wicked, but we don't want to spend time reading in detail or giving them or their deeds so much attention. Just enough for our personal knowledge, not too much to where they can sense we're interested in them.

Remember Yahweh made "Miriads upon Miriads of Angels" and the third that did fall is still A LOT of evil angels that are roaming this earth.
To a great extent, agreed with you wrote above. We've come to see the meaning of it somewhat differently, but, as far as not needing nor wanting to know more about it and beyond a level which is good and healthy for us to know, agreed.
If it was meant to be added to the Bible then God would have allowed it to happen. After all these years he has not allowed it to be added to his Holy word for a reason.
Something I find it interesting though, is that it seems to have always been available to people in some form or another, through various points in time plus the fact that the book has survived to this day, and is now being brought out into the light again. So it has endured despite past attempts to do away with and hide it.

Because Enoch gets mentioned quite often through the Bible and the mention made of him is always positive, it may be part of the reason. There is always a reason for everything, so perhaps it's not by accident. If someone feels they are being guided to find the book and read it, then it is available to them, but if not, then maybe they don't necessarily have to read it.

I think that perhaps the most important thing we can do, whenever it comes to any subject like this, and even in general, if or when we do not feel sure about something, is to then remember about being still and to listen for the Holy Spirit and focus on how we are being guided. Then, once we are sure that we have heard and understood correctly, we need to go with our intuition (in-tuition). That is direct guidance from God, specifically tailored for us and He knows exactly where we are and what we need to be focusing on mostly.

The more start to do this, the more things can start to fall into place and over time if we are meant to find or learn about something specific, and we are believing (be-living / living-by) the above, then in time it will happen and we will eventually get to grips with whatever understanding it is that we need to get and it will happen in good time (God's timing).

In the end, we already know that which we need to be focused on learning, which at the end of the day is what is important.

Genesis 29:29 The secret [things belong] unto the "I AM" our God: but those [things which are] revealed [belong] unto us and to our children for ever, that [we] may do all the words of this Law.
 






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To a great extent, agreed with you wrote above. We've come to see the meaning of it somewhat differently, but, as far as not needing nor wanting to know more about it and beyond a level which is good and healthy for us to know, agreed.
Thank you :D I wish more people would come to understand this and they would save themselves a lot of grief.
Something I find it interesting though, is that it seems to have always been available to people in some form or another, through various points in time plus the fact that the book has survived to this day, and is now being brought out into the light again. So it has endured despite past attempts to do away with and hide it.
Good point, it made me think about how other things have survived through time too, just like the ancient Babylonian practices that have made their way into our time, modified to fit our modern time, but the essence is the same. We really gotta be careful though, this is where our discernment and reasoning come into play. I wholeheartedly believe that God's Word has survived through all these years through opposition and persecution for our own good. In my opinion, that's they only source of God's words for us. I would be very careful when considering material that somehow distorts or deviates from Bible truths.
Because Enoch gets mentioned quite often through the Bible and the mention made of him is always positive, it may be part of the reason. There is always a reason for everything, so perhaps it's not by accident. If someone feels they are being guided to find the book and read it, then it is available to them, but if not, then maybe they don't necessarily have to read it.
That is true, after all he was the first prophet and courageous man that stood up for the truth about God. Who wrote the book anyway? I doubt this person was inspired by God though. I would be careful about writings not inspired by Yahweh.
I think that perhaps the most important thing we can do, whenever it comes to any subject like this, and even in general, if or when we do not feel sure about something, is to then remember about being still and to listen for the Holy Spirit and focus on how we are being guided. Then, once we are sure that we have heard and understood correctly, we need to go with our intuition (in-tuition). That is direct guidance from God, specifically tailored for us and He knows exactly where we are and what we need to be focusing on mostly.
The more start to do this, the more things can start to fall into place and over time if we are meant to find or learn about something specific, and we are believing (be-living / living-by) the above, then in time it will happen and we will eventually get to grips with whatever understanding it is that we need to get and it will happen in good time (God's timing).
In the end, we already know that which we need to be focused on learning, which at the end of the day is what is important.
True, we all need to be instructed with the Holy Word to know what we need to do and know. Most importantly, we want to have a relationship with our God and Creator. We don't want to think of him as some far away being that we could never approach. We need to have the kind of relationship Abraham had with God. :D
Genesis 29:29 The secret [things belong] unto the "I AM" our God: but those [things which are] revealed [belong] unto us and to our children for ever, that [we] may do all the words of this Law.
 






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Who doesn’t know the story of Lucifer and his fallen angels?

Everyone knows this profound pre-world history. The arrogant and selfish angel Lucifer recruited other angels in heaven to fight against God. He wanted to take the Lord’s place and rule the heavens in his own selfish style. But Prince Michael and His army defeated these rebel angels. And they were all sentenced to death for their treason.

But God, with His infinite mercy, love and wisdom, decided not to execute them immediately. He gave them a stay; an extended stay on the prison planet Earth. It was created for them so that they could be taught to be good again. All angels/souls submitted to becoming Adams and Eves, human-animal bodies to prove they could be good and earn their right to enter heaven again as beings/angels. All of them agreed, except Lucifer.

Now, all humans (fallen angels) are walking in the shadow of the death-sentence until Judgment Day, where each soul will be judged on individual merits. Those who want to become good again, by being obedient to the Laws of God, will earn their pardon. Those wicked beings who mislead others; and who still side with Lucifer’s views will be first into the hell-fire after him. Lucifer still has his super human powers and can tempt, test and even reward humans with worldly treasures and power. Remember, he offered Jesus all the kingdoms of the world if He would bow down to him. But Jesus, God’s son, knew the Law and was the living Word of it. His mission was to demonstrate by example The Way a human-being must be (act, speak and believe) to go Home. He proved a soul/Being inside a human could be good. And when He left, He left the Holy Spirit to guide human-beings. This means each soul had direct communication with Father which art in heaven.

The Old Testament isn’t null and void through Jesus’ crucifixion. He said to keep the Law, which is found in the Torah, the first five books of the Bible. Some things did change. For example, animal sacrifice turned into “self” sacrifice. He said that unless human-beings chose be born again as their spirits, they could not enter heaven again. Using the Holy Spirit, direct communication with Father, they could learn to crucify (control) their “selves”, through their spirits’ desire to be good again.

A soul needs to put his spirit in control of the cross he bears- his human-animal body. If he extends his arms to the side, he can easily see the cross he bears, the one he is trapped inside.

Unfortunately, most everyone wants to be an animal. They want to over indulge- eat more than their share; have more than their share; and hoard to themselves, instead of sharing with goodness. Each human-being must crucify “self” and his “self-righteousness”. Self- righteousness is just satanic arrogance.

Human-beings must be keen to be humble, faithful and loyal to God only. It’s their only way out of here. This prison planet is a finite world. Guardian angels are around. They help guide human-beings, but they also record every thought, word and action.

The BIBLE stands for Basic Instruction Before Leaving Earth. Some believe it’s fallible, just a book written by man and is full of mistakes and alterations. They choose to believe this lie, because it’s in the best interest of their human. Satan’s biggest lie has been that people “are only human, after all.” This belief allows humans to do their will, not God’s Will.

Yes, evil humans did alter the Bible to some degree. For instance, members of the Synagogue of Satan removed the Book of Enoch and Gospel of Thomas, because they revealed too much truth and insight into human existence and the purpose of life. How could they control humans if they knew the truth? They certainly didn’t like losing control when Jesus preached the truth. But the truth is that the Bible is the Word and the messages about being obedient, and not rebelling, are repeated over and over within its pages.

With what human beings should know by now, those in the Synagogue of Satan should be shaking in their shoes. Instead they are laughing, because they have deceived everyone. They see everyone as an animal, but basically that’s what people choose to be.

The big question is why are human beings listening to their fellow prisoners and following their un-Godly laws, bad advice, and insanity?

Fallen angels have been given 6,000 years to learn to be good by their own free choice, through a course of hundreds of lifetimes. With the world in the state it’s in and the Synagogue of Satan in absolute control, do they need any more time?

Think of it this way. The body is a vehicle; either God’s inner voice or Satan’s inner voice is driving it. You have to choose who is captain and discern if you are being guided by God or Satan, good or evil. Practice how to know the difference.

Note: the Synagogue of Satan knows what works to control the masses: Fear. Turn fear into faith, return to the Law of God, and He will fight the battle.

Source and inspiration: www.thewayhomeorfacethefire.net

Check out more articles at hannahmichaels.wordpress.com
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The bible doesn't mention that we are Fallen Angels ..
 






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What is your source?
Source is mentioned at the end of the article.
The bible doesn't mention that we are Fallen Angels ..
It actually does.

Revelation
12:4 And his tail/tale (of lies) drew the third part of the "Stars" of heaven (into his army), and did (cause them to be) cast to the Earth (for their treason against God):

12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon (Lucifer); and the dragon fought and his angels,
12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out to the Earth, and his angels were cast out with him (Matthew 25:41).

Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into Everlasting Fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
 






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Source is mentioned at the end of the article.

It actually does.

Revelation
12:4 And his tail/tale (of lies) drew the third part of the "Stars" of heaven (into his army), and did (cause them to be) cast to the Earth (for their treason against God):

12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon (Lucifer); and the dragon fought and his angels,
12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out to the Earth, and his angels were cast out with him (Matthew 25:41).

Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into Everlasting Fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Humans are not called "stars" or "angels" in the bible.
 






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Source is mentioned at the end of the article.

It actually does.

Revelation
12:4 And his tail/tale (of lies) drew the third part of the "Stars" of heaven (into his army), and did (cause them to be) cast to the Earth (for their treason against God):

12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon (Lucifer); and the dragon fought and his angels,
12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out to the Earth, and his angels were cast out with him (Matthew 25:41).

Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into Everlasting Fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
The bible said we come from Adam and Eve. And humans are not stars in the bible. In the hipotetical case that we are Angels ... Where are ours wings ?

In the other hand, I think there is a different between lucifer and Satan. I am not agree with the translation of the bible in this matter. Satan is a dragon (reptilian).. And Lucifer is a fallen angel.
 






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The bible said we come from Adam and Eve. And humans are not stars in the bible. In the hipotetical case that we are Angels ... Where are ours wings ?

In the other hand, I think there is a different between lucifer and Satan. I am not agree with the translation of the bible in this matter. Satan is a dragon (reptilian).. And Lucifer is a fallen angel.
Interestingly, the definition of saraph is fiery serpent.
 






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Humans are not called "stars" or "angels" in the bible.
Jesus said (Matt. 22:30) that the resurrected people, will be like the angels of heaven.

Which means, that they will be angels again; otherwise, it would not be a resurrection, would it.

Resurrected from "death" - from being in the valley of the shadow of death (confined within human limitations; humans, that have to die).

Psalm 23:4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for Thou [art] with me; Thy rod and Thy staff they comfort me.

Honestly, I really don't see how anyone can deny this because of what it clearly says and there are also several other verses that could be quoted.

Luke 11:13 If ye then, BEING EVIL,...
 






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