1.) I didn’t say it, scripture does...
Hebrews 6:4-6
For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame.
2.) We have not repacked the Jews..God has the abandoned His chosen people..
Romans 11:1, 11, 25-29
I say then, God has not rejected His people, has He? May it never be!
I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they? May it never be! But by their transgression salvation has come to the Gentiles, to make them jealous.
For I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this mystery—so that you will not be wise in your own estimation—that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written, “THE DELIVERER WILL COME FROM ZION, HE WILL REMOVE UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB.” “THIS IS MY COVENANT WITH THEM, WHEN I TAKE AWAY THEIR SINS.” From the standpoint of the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but from the standpoint of God’s choice they are beloved for the sake of the fathers; for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
3.) Jesus fulfilled the law for us..we live by faith not works
Matthew 5:17
Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.
Galatians 2:20-21
I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me. I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly.
1.) I didn’t say it, scripture does...
Hebrews 6:4-6
For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame.
Have you read all scripture on the subject hmmm? David, Solomon, Israel, the parable of the prodigal son are all examples of the truth of God's word. We can fall and comeback if we listen to the pleadings of the Holy Spirit and if we don't then that's when Hebrews 6:4-6 happens. Connect the dots in the Bible by reading all or almost all scripture on particular subjects in the Bible to understand the message.
2.) We have not repacked the Jews..God has the abandoned His chosen people..
Romans 11:1, 11, 25-29
I say then, God has not rejected His people, has He? May it never be!
I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they? May it never be! But by their transgression salvation has come to the Gentiles, to make them jealous.
For I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this mystery—so that you will not be wise in your own estimation—that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written, “THE DELIVERER WILL COME FROM ZION, HE WILL REMOVE UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB.” “THIS IS MY COVENANT WITH THEM, WHEN I TAKE AWAY THEIR SINS.” From the standpoint of the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but from the standpoint of God’s choice they are beloved for the sake of the fathers; for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
Not according to the Bible. God does not abandon anyone but collectively the Jews are not a chosen people. I already quoted you a lot of scripture on that on other forums so i won't do it here again. Individually the Jews can be saved like the Gentiles and all be part of the olive tree.The apostles were all Jews and were saved but not collectively. Its amazing how you reject scripture that doesn't go hand in hand with your false doctrine on this subject. You pick and choose. You will always be wrong on this subject and contradictory to God's Word. We are all chosen people as long as we accept Christ. Anyone from any nation can be Jewish because biblically its not about Genetics, its about circumcision of the heart. Praise God.
Don't forget that God scattered ten tribes of Israel a long time ago and they disappeared. By the time Jesus was on earth, they hadn't existed for hundreds of years. Only Judah and little Benjamin were left. But when Babylon took Judah captive for 70 years (this was before Christ), not all of them returned. Then about 40 years after Jesus ascended to heaven, the Romans destroyed the temple and again the Jews that weren't killed scattered all over. There are very few real Jews in this world. Many who call themselves Jews are really European. But why let the Word of God and facts get in your way eh Lisa?
3.) Jesus fulfilled the law for us..we live by faith not works
Matthew 5:17
Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.
I already explained what fulfil means. I will repost it here.
"Does
"fulfil" mean to do away with? The Cambridge Dictionary tells me that fulfil means to
"do something that is expected, hoped for, or promised, or to cause it to happen:" So doing something that is expected or causing it to happen is not abolishing it.
The Greek word translated
“fulfil” in
Matthew 5:17 comes from the root word pleroo, which can also means
“to make full, to fill, to fill up … to fill to the full” or
“to render full, i.e. to complete” (Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, Strong’s #4137). Thus,
“fulfil” can mean to complete or accomplish, but it can also mean to fill to the full. To cite Matthew 5:17 as proof that Jesus meant,
“I did not come to destroy the law, but to end it by fulfilling it” is inconsistent with His words and makes no sense. However, the meaning
“fill to the full” does make clear His intent.
Both in His life and in His teaching, Jesus fulfilled the law. That is, He did what is implied by the words
“fill to the full.” He magnified God’s law by His perfect example and gave it its full meaning. He emphasized its deep underlying principles and the need for total commitment to it rather than mere external acknowledgment and obedience.
The intent of Jesus’ statement in Matthew 5:17 is,
“I did not come to do away with the Law or the Prophets, but I came to uphold them in everything that I say and do.” He did exactly that, showing the holy, spiritual purpose of God’s law, obeying it perfectly in thought and action, in both the letter and in the intent of heart."
Since Jesus is our example we are to do as He did and to say different is lying.
I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me. I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly.
This does not say we are not to obey God does it? Let me repost what Paul has said about the law.
Romans 3:31, "Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law."
Romans 7:12, 14, 16, "Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good. For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin. If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good."
1 Corinthians 7:19, "Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters."
1 Timothy 1:8, "But we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully."
Is Paul contradicting Jesus? Is he contradicting himself? No! Its you who is! How can any Christian think its okay not to obey God's law and will? I tell you this in sincerity, you are wrong and are talking against the Bible here too.
You will always be wrong on all three of these subjects. Bye for now.
