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Guys I think this Suga case is being taken more seriously because this happened during his military service. They take military service very seriously in Korea and Suga was in public service which is considered easier and kind of like a loophole idols and celebrities use to not give up their privileges. Also, they all were given that cultural merit award so they were supposed to be model citizens but now with Suga's blinder BTS's squeaky clean image is tarnished.
 
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There are those who just love to hate...and because of envy they refuse to look at fairness in the eye...therefore making them blind and lost...

The sad state of reality in the chaotic fandom of BTS...

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arhur12 said:
Guys I think this Suga case is being taken more seriously because this happened during his military service. They take military service very seriously in Korea and Suga was in public service which is considered easier and kind of like a loophole idols and celebrities use to not give up their privileges. Also, they all were given that cultural merit award so they were supposed to be model citizens but now with Suga's blinder BTS's squeaky clean image is tarnished.
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There is a separate investigation regarding his performance in his public service assignment. There was a complaint filed alleging "irresponsible behaviors" such as sleeping on the job and lacking interest in his duties...

The said investigation is yet to commence, though...
 
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Twitter tl is filled with SA done by brothers to their own sisters in south korea. Telegram groups were busted the disgusting is there are mothers sisters group. Incest is slowly becoming normal.
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It just now occurred to me so I gotta ask....

Why haven't any of the BT5 members shown any support for YG?
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A rumour is going on that jm was seen crying after knowing the news about suga.
Rm takes care of v jn takes care of jk sg and jm. I think this is how company arranged.
 
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Wow now I got to know about nth room, crazy. Why is the sex drive is so high in Korea? I feel bad for victims. Didn't it happened to female idols also. Among all these jk leaked pic gf also has some girls nude pics right along with sexual toys. And yesterday's news of his friend svt mg asking to bring girls. And youtuber soj*ang also leaked a rumour of jk that he asked one girl to abort. And boti also posted vedios of jk being close to female staff. A rumour of him linked to mafia daughter.

Speculation or turth we never know. But if it is true he needs to be very careful. If one rumour turns into true whole career will go
 
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arhur12 said:
Guys I think this Suga case is being taken more seriously because this happened during his military service. They take military service very seriously in Korea and Suga was in public service which is considered easier and kind of like a loophole idols and celebrities use to not give up their privileges. Also, they all were given that cultural merit award so they were supposed to be model citizens but now with Suga's blinder BTS's squeaky clean image is tarnished.
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Don't know if it is for it. But if u consider jk case is big bcz he was driving the car. But they didn't make this much fuss for it. Is it bcz high level of alcohol content?
 
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Beautiful said:
You know what is worse they were doing this to their own mom and sis. They were sharing their mom and sis pics while touching inappropriately. Hope police takes action.
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Yes and Korean women investigated it turned out 70% of schools had at least one chat room like this and the demographic involved in the scandal is boys in high school and college. The minimum age is elementary school students. That country has the worst men :mad::mad:
 
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Don't know if it is for it. But if u consider jk case is big bcz he was driving the car. But they didn't make this much fuss for it. Is it bcz high level of alcohol content?
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Believe me this is because of military service. A lot of armies just Stan BTS so they don't know how strict Koreans are about military service. T.O.P from BIG BANG had a scandal during his military service related to him smoking weed and the media haunted him for days until he was so depressed he attempted suicide and stayed in hospital for a day. Still, when he came back he was bashed by K-netz to the point he would say he wanted to leave Korea. Imo, T.O.P and Suga's scandals are of crimes around the same level.

Koreans take military service very seriously and BTS are already being given so many privileges compared to other Korean men and celebrities during their military service like being allowed to release their music regularly so they are going to judge them more harshly too compared to other idols.


When Baekhyun did public service he wasn't even allowed to post pre-recorded YouTube videos which he recorded before enlisting for suspicion he could be earning money from them. Meanwhile, Chanyeol who was in active duty faced no scrutiny because idols who do public service are already seen in a bad light in Korea and many Koreans think they fake illnesses to avoid the tougher active duty service. Taemin fans survived off glimpses of his fingers and hair for most of his military service bcz SHINee members weren't allowed to talk about him or share any pictures after he was shifted from active duty to public service due to severe depression and panic attacks only to protect him from backlash from Knetz who could misunderstand and accuse him of celebrity privilege if he shared anything with his fans.

I also remember Leetuk from Suju was not allowed to leave military service and attend his father's funeral and he talked about how he felt like wanting to kill himself during that phase.

Koreans are ruthless to idols who f**k up during military service and there is already investigation going on about Suga not fulfilling his military service duties properly so I don't think they are being targeted because they are BTS it's just they have enjoyed a lot more privileges than the average Korean man with the extended delay they received and being allowed to post content and release music regularly so they are being judged more harshly too now.
 
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There's a high chance hybe and suga took care about the dui case around 6th and 7th august dealing with the police to cover it up(cause later on it's been revealed in some artcles that the high rank police and hybe had tug-of-war going on, which shows hybe can atleast somewhat manipulate the police). I really don't see any other reason for them to lie to people on the 1st statements and apology so unhinged. Somehow someone who was aware of the real incident kept pressuring them to admit the real incident. This is why there have been some fake cctv footages and smear campaign right after their false bigshits but somehow those fake things aligned with the real incidents. I wonder, if hybe or suga could take care of the situation just by covering it up, why they needed to lie in those statements in the first place? If something isn't known to people, they don't need to take an unnecessary toll on head. They could just easily bury that case forever without making public known some incident happened right? Or is it because once some high profile crime is reported in police station in sk they have to make that known to public anyways?(Then the world would be a flower garden lol) Then why to take the risk of unnecessary lies so much? Is it because they are used to such things? Lol. I really can't wrap my head around what exactly was the motivation behind all that lies.
 
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arhur12 said:
Believe me this is because of military service. A lot of armies just Stan BTS so they don't know how strict Koreans are about military service. T.O.P from BIG BANG had a scandal during his military service related to him smoking weed and the media haunted him for days until he was so depressed he attempted suicide and stayed in hospital for a day. Still, when he came back he was bashed by K-netz to the point he would say he wanted to leave Korea. Imo, T.O.P and Suga's scandals are of crimes around the same level.

Koreans take military service very seriously and BTS are already being given so many privileges compared to other Korean men and celebrities during their military service like being allowed to release their music regularly so they are going to judge them more harshly too compared to other idols.


When Baekhyun did public service he wasn't even allowed to post pre-recorded YouTube videos which he recorded before enlisting for suspicion he could be earning money from them. Meanwhile, Chanyeol who was in active duty faced no scrutiny because idols who do public service are already seen in a bad light in Korea and many Koreans think they fake illnesses to avoid the tougher active duty service. Taemin fans survived off glimpses of his fingers and hair for most of his military service bcz SHINee members weren't allowed to talk about him or share any pictures after he was shifted from active duty to public service due to severe depression and panic attacks only to protect him from backlash from Knetz who could misunderstand and accuse him of celebrity privilege if he shared anything with his fans.

I also remember Leetuk from Suju was not allowed to leave military service and attend his father's funeral and he talked about how he felt like wanting to kill himself during that phase.

Koreans are ruthless to idols who f**k up during military service and there is already investigation going on about Suga not fulfilling his military service duties properly so I don't think they are being targeted because they are BTS it's just they have enjoyed a lot more privileges than the average Korean man with the extended delay they received and being allowed to post content and release music regularly so they are being judged more harshly too now.
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OMG I didn't know that happened to Leeteuk, and that's so damn sad! Also mean. How are you gonna tell someone that serving their country is more important than grieving the loss of their dad and being there for their family? His family almost had a second tragedy because of what the military did.

In those "regular day/idol day" poster images BT5 released a while back, YG states in his that he gets physical therapy, probably for his shoulder. That's a pretty normal thing to get post-surgery. It's not his fault he got run over and ended up with this problem. So he has to be in public service, and he gets judged even harder for it when that is outside his control. Then he makes the mistake of driving drunk on a scooter down the sidewalk, and boom, it's all a mess.
 
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OMG I didn't know that happened to Leeteuk, and that's so damn sad! Also mean. How are you gonna tell someone that serving their country is more important than grieving the loss of their dad and being there for their family? His family almost had a second tragedy because of what the military did. In those "regular day/idol day" poster images BT5 released a while back, YG states in his that he gets physical therapy, probably for his shoulder. That's a pretty normal thing to get post-surgery. It's not his fault he got run over and ended up with this problem. So he has to be in public service, and he gets judged even harder for it when that is outside his control. Then he makes the mistake of driving drunk on a scooter down the sidewalk, and boom, it's all a mess.
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It's not his fault and I hope he has support from his company and fans but Armies too need to understand that this is not some kind of conspiracy to destroy BTS members. This is just how Koreans treat military service. I still feel bad for T.O.P because he almost died because of Knetz and the sad thing is Knetz still haven't forgiven him completely. He has kept himself away from public eye to this day because of the horrible things he had to suffer during his military service. I remember reading somewhere that his mother even begged for Knetz to stop the hate towards him.

Did you know they even make stage 1-2 cancer patients enlist in military service? Korean males have said they even served in active duty with broken bones and physical disabilities. One person I read about was forced to serve with a brain tumor and there were some articles circulating on the international side about hazing in K-military service and statistics that show every day 3 persons doing military service die by suicide or try to kill themselves. The K-military service system is f**ked up and idols who get caught in scandals during military service have their reputations tarnished forever.
Leetuk's case was less of a scandal and more a tragedy so he didn't receive too much hate but the fact they even threw hate in the first place is infuriating.


However, I will say when Taemin's mental breakdown happened he didn't receive much hate and in some ways came out with an even better public image because some people who served with him in the military quickly came out to defend his character saying nice things about him but had to disclose that he was taking 6-8 depression pills per day, experiencing severe panic attacks and that the transfer was necessary for his sake so no celebrity privilege happened. Therefore, maybe if someone from the K-military side who served with Suga comes out and defends his character the hate train will die down. Hyb3 needs to do better to protect him and instead of making him apologize again and again maybe try to gather witnesses who can defend his character. Hyb3 already fumbled by lying about the case which created the mess we are in. Really, that company is stupid and then trying to manipulate information is going to make Suga's case even worse.
 
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arhur12 said:
It's not his fault and I hope he has support from his company and fans but Armies too need to understand that this is not some kind of conspiracy to destroy BTS members. This is just how Koreans treat military service. I still feel bad for T.O.P because he almost died because of Knetz and the sad thing is Knetz still haven't forgiven him completely. He has kept himself away from public eye to this day because of the horrible things he had to suffer during his military service. I remember reading somewhere that his mother even begged for Knetz to stop the hate towards him.

Did you know they even make stage 1-2 cancer patients enlist in military service? Korean males have said they even served in active duty with broken bones and physical disabilities. One person I read about was forced to serve with a brain tumor and there were some articles circulating on the international side about hazing in K-military service and statistics that show every day 3 persons doing military service die by suicide or try to kill themselves. The K-military service system is f**ked up and idols who get caught in scandals during military service have their reputations tarnished forever.
Leetuk's case was less of a scandal and more a tragedy so he didn't receive too much hate but the fact they even threw hate in the first place is infuriating.


However, I will say when Taemin's mental breakdown happened he didn't receive much hate and in some ways came out with an even better public image because some people who served with him in the military quickly came out to defend his character saying nice things about him but had to disclose that he was taking 6-8 depression pills per day, experiencing severe panic attacks and that the transfer was necessary for his sake so no celebrity privilege happened. Therefore, maybe if someone from the K-military side who served with Suga comes out and defends his character the hate train will die down. Hyb3 needs to do better to protect him and instead of making him apologize again and again maybe try to gather witnesses who can defend his character. Hyb3 already fumbled by lying about the case which created the mess we are in. Really, that company is stupid and then trying to manipulate information is going to make Suga's case even worse.
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An apology of the real incident after 20 days from the occurance is a joke. He never apologized in the first apology. It was a nonsensical made up story, probably because they thought they can cover it up but caught off-guard when the truths got exposed. When the real incidents were keep coming out, where was he? Why he didn't correct anything? Why he didn't apologize about the real incident even when the real footages were coming out? He expected hybe along with high ranking police and terrorist fans to take care of the mess. He dumped all the responsibilities on hybe and expected people to cool down about the dui and his lying a**. He and hybe waited over eligible 2 weeks to do damage control and till the police investigation was done. After that he is posting some half ass sorry post where he writes shits like "I didn't think deeply about the last apology". Why anyone needs to think deeply to tell the truth? He says he wrote that hastily when it was an elaborated, well articulated lies after lies mixed with false scenarios and heavy emotions. He used the same sort of deep felt wordings in the last one too. Which sane person is gonna believe the 2nd apology with almost the same wordings after being gaslighted with false statements for 20 days? This 2nd apology just comes off as a factor to be used to reduce down his punishment. Y'all need to realize he ain't sorry for any of his deeds--the dui, the lies or anything else. He is just sad none of his and hybe's strategies worked out the way they wanted and now he is facing some social repercussions. Im personally waiting to see what revolutionary fabrications they come up with in the police report lol.
 
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An apology of the real incident after 20 days from the occurance is a joke. He never apologized in the first apology. It was a nonsensical made up story, probably because they thought they can cover it up but caught off-guard when the truths got exposed. When the real incidents were keep coming out, where was he? Why he didn't correct anything? Why he didn't apologize about the real incident even when the real footages were coming out? He expected hybe along with high ranking police and terrorist fans to take care of the mess. He dumped all the responsibilities on hybe and expected people to cool down about the dui and his lying a**. He and hybe waited over eligible 2 weeks to do damage control and till the police investigation was done. After that he is posting some half ass sorry post where he writes shits like "I didn't think deeply about the last apology". Why anyone needs to think deeply to tell the truth? He says he wrote that hastily when it was an elaborated, well articulated lies after lies mixed with false scenarios and heavy emotions. He used the same sort of deep felt wordings in the last one too. Which sane person is gonna believe the 2nd apology with almost the same wordings after being gaslighted with false statements for 20 days? This 2nd apology just comes off as a factor to be used to reduce down his punishment. Y'all need to realize he ain't sorry for any of his deeds--the dui, the lies or anything else. He is just sad none of his and hybe's strategies worked out the way they wanted and now he is facing some social repercussions. Im personally waiting to see what revolutionary fabrications they come up with in the police report lol.
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Well, I don't know much about the details of this case because I was kinda late to the party and only became aware when Suga was called for public questioning by the police and from what I read here everyone was saying he was being targeted unfairly so I thought maybe the members are right and he is receiving too much hate and I haven't read the apology. I will say though that I believe in the concept of Karma and what you sow so shall you reap and Suga has always given me bad vibes. Like, not the he is a criminal kind of vibes but he seems arrogant and felt like the success got to his head so maybe this is just God's way to humble him. Also, Hyb3 is hella manipulative and like him very arrogant and what they did by blatantly lying about the case was wrong.

What I am trying to say is Kpop fans always say their favs are innocent babies and can't do no wrong and when any idol gets into a scandal the narrative is always that they are being unfairly treated but sometimes the scandals and how the scandal affects their images could be related to their karma. Like, the idols who got out of serious scandals looking good could actually be decent people in real life and the idols who have their image tarnished could be receiving some kind of karma for their bad behavior. Like, T.O.P while I sympathize with him I also know Big Bang as a whole were pretty messed up so I can't really say what happened to him was wrong because I don't know him and maybe at that time he was doing some illegal stuff for which he deserved punishment and that could be true for Suga too. He could have actually been irresponsible on his job and abused his celebrity privilege because if he was the shining citizen Armies think he is wouldn't his colleagues or someone from his higher ups in the military have come out in his defense by now? The scandal is not 2 days old its been a month and so far no evidence in favor of him? maybe because he was really at fault and is being fairly treated because you can't buy respect with money and will only have people defending you if you are a good person.
 
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In this Official MV of Spring Day, it's interesting how Suga in the first segment, was the only one sitting on a huge pile of old clothes...


 
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