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lal golapi

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Their media ain't genuinely that nice to hybe and bts. Regular employed people eg those journalists and reporters ain't so devoid of morality like those "big" people. They have been fucked over years and years of parasitic claws(mediaplay) of hybe on them. So at any given chance if some irrefutable scandal blows up, journalists won't favor them. That's what people witnessed with Suga's dui and Bang pd's strolling with camgirls lol. That's how true journalists should be working anyways.
 

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https://x.com/Liatokii/status/1830593818762330268
Hybe caught faking Lesserafim's sales. All Hybe groups probably fake sales and might get exposed because Hanteo is doing investigations on inflated sales. Chanyeol's C-bar is complaining because the sales of Ktown4u are not reflected on Hanteo for this week because Hanteo suspects the data provided by Ktown4u is not reliable. This might affect Baekhyun as well whose million seller status is in danger because of Hanteo not counting Ktown4u sales. I really wish this mass buying culture ends and once all these fandoms and artists need to be exposed.
 

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Guys you should hear this compulsory
Yikes, JM sounds so awful and TH is clear and stable.

What's sad is JM started as a tenor, and he had a very crisp, hip hop style voice. Somehow Hive got in his head and forced him to be a counter tenor (falsetto), which he very clearly isn't cause he cannot sing that high at all.

BT5 have the worst vocal line up of any idol group ever. That's likely why JM is forced to sing so high, because having baritones and tenors leaves no room for range without at least one falsetto. Compare this to 2NE1, who had/have a soprano, a couple mezzo-sopranos and a contralto. They have the high, middle, and low ranges so that can be used for vocal contrast. Another group, Dreamcatcher, have insanely powerful voices and huge ranges, so they do quite the vocal acrobatics in their songs. Compared to BTS, it's deep and deeper. Even if they had a bass in there, it'd just be deep, deeper, deepest, and in male voices the gradual variation between those three isn't stark enough for vocal variation. In songs like Louder Than Bombs for example, the vocal line have to force high notes that don't sound bad but are still clearly unnatural seeming, in order to make the song vocally interesting.

Which leads me to another point: YG is the only group member with a well trained voice. I don't know where he got it from, because it wasn't from Hive. In both rapping and singing he's a baritone (and borders on bass at times), but when rapping he hits so many notes that he makes you forget he's a baritone. He can control pitch too, so his highest and lowest notes don't sound too quiet or too loud. If you listen to him rapping/singing compared to the other group members, you can "hear" his diaphragm. If Hive had selected artists with that kind of skill, BT5 would've had a much stronger vocal line up.
 

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It's been trending on different big subreddits, not in the kpop ones. Such a great world class achievement. Many regular people in the comment section were recognizing him not from his name, but as the CEO or the creator of BTS.
He seemed pretty scared.
If any curious minded people interested to see what kind of girls they are, try searching "bj juicy seyeon" subreddit on google(18+ only)
But people haven't stopped gossiping since. Recently snl korea intensified the embarrassment.
No really, never in the fuckin world I ever imagined we will get to see bang-nim bangs whom. Not just a bang....a possible thr****me. The grand cosmological banging force didn't even end there. These girls are sisters. Things might have become incestuous.
 

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Korea Communications Standard Commission (KCSC) might take legal action against false reports about Suga's case...

Read about this earlier today. There's another couple articles that have been posted since that one. KCSC is very ready to sink their teeth in JTBC. SK does not go for defamation at all. Especially not when it concerns BT5.
 

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Business Post reports that as per Yuanta Securities, Hybe is expected to increase its corporate value thanks to the resumption of main artist activities Jin of BTS in the 4th quarter.

Lee Hwan-wook, a researcher at Yuanta Securities, predicted, "BTS member Jin is about to release a solo album in the fourth quarter and start offline activities in earnest.

HYBE is projected to generate 2.215 trillion KRW in sales and 247 billion KRW in operating profit on a consolidated basis this year. Compared to 2023, sales are expected to increase by 1.7%
KSJ1 IS COMING #방탄소년단진 #JIN #BTSJIN
#ジン


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Business Post reports that as per Yuanta Securities, Hybe is expected to increase its corporate value thanks to the resumption of main artist activities Jin of BTS in the 4th quarter.

Lee Hwan-wook, a researcher at Yuanta Securities, predicted, "BTS member Jin is about to release a solo album in the fourth quarter and start offline activities in earnest.

HYBE is projected to generate 2.215 trillion KRW in sales and 247 billion KRW in operating profit on a consolidated basis this year. Compared to 2023, sales are expected to increase by 1.7%
KSJ1 IS COMING #방탄소년단진 #JIN #BTSJIN
#ジン


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It seems that Jin took many benefits from Suga scandal
 
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Going back to the topic of live vocals... This video is quite fun:


There are a number of screechy vocals though, so maybe turn down your earbuds/headphones.
They sing worse than Britney Spears and Selena Gomez who are considered the "worst" in western countries and get mocked endlessly for being talentless while Hyb3 idols are sheltered and considered "better" than other company idols because of "charts" and "numbers" then Koreans cry about being ignored by western music critics when this is the best way have to offer?
 

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Going back to the topic of live vocals... This video is quite fun:


There are a number of screechy vocals though, so maybe turn down your earbuds/headphones.
They really had their times of bad vocal performances...They should've just recited poetry instead...lol!

For singers I think it's important to have regular voice improvement trainings...

But they did have some remarkable vocal performances also...like these...

Note 1: Jin has improved a lot his vocals...
Note 2: Jimin’s voice in "Truth Untold" was really good for the most part...
Note 3: V's voice actually gives the most "moving quality...unique and manly tone..."


 
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e-Enoch

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They sing worse than Britney Spears and Selena Gomez who are considered the "worst" in western countries and get mocked endlessly for being talentless while Hyb3 idols are sheltered and considered "better" than other company idols because of "charts" and "numbers" then Koreans cry about being ignored by western music critics when this is the best way have to offer?
Koreans need not really mind these "western critics" because they also have excellent singers like...

Kyuhyun


Ailee



Sistar ( Soyou and Hyolyn )


Leehi and Henry


And many more...

https://youtu.be/vZKkjmAHYXY?si=wJLbK9CIUrMkvxC5
 

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Yep...like the EXO men are really great singers...
(and others in this video compilation...)

But SM has a bigger problem than Hybe because their idols don't make their own songs. The company buys songs from western artists and adds Korean lyrics on top which makes their idols not more than glorified cover artists because a lot of times SM doesn't change one thing in the demo.

Like these



I can hardly consider these people "artists" when they don't add anything to the original demo except their voices. Britney Spears was mocked for doing this too and she still had more writing and producing credits than half Kpop idols.
 

lal golapi

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If anyone got hurt I'm sorry but people acting as if they said pure words about them from beginning. This thread called them gays, cult, rituals, clones, lovers, prostitutes, durgiees, playboys, evil, slaves, mk victims,what not don't u think they wont get hurt by this. Don't you remember law when u called them these. Don't preach good words now when u said these in past.
Rather than suing, it seems taking inspiration from here has been far more profitable for them.
Edit: The "them" is bts and hybe, not the posters @arhur12
 
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His album was removed from banner. Either they are doing wantedly or it should be new way of marketing.

If anyone got hurt I'm sorry but people acting as if they said pure words about them from beginning. This thread called them gays, cult, rituals, clones, lovers, prostitutes, durgiees, playboys, evil, slaves, mk victims,what not don't u think they wont get hurt by this. Don't you remember law when u called them these. Don't preach good words now when u said these in past.
Since @lal golapi replied to this now I want to say I don't agree with VC's idea of satanism in Kpop. I don't think these idols literally sign contracts with the devil and do demonic rituals behind the scenes. I don't believe Satan is so dumb he will do all the things people on these forums talk about. I believe Satan is a trickster and what he does is trick these idols who have large fan followings to manipulate their fans so they waste their lives on Kpop and forget God. They don't have to do rituals or call upon the spirits of fire, water or use gematria, astrology tarot to put spells on people even though some probably do use those things. Scientifically it has become possible to emotionally manipulate people into becoming literal slaves or worshippers of popular celebrities and we see that not just in Kpop but in every fandom whether it is sports fandom, Kpop fandom or political fandoms. So, really idols don't have to be part of some "elite" system trying to ruin the world. The "elites" are just a fancy term for capitalists who own most of the wealth and power in this world and want to control the rest 99% like you and me by keeping us divided and creating a system that makes us 99% poorer while making them wealthier. So, I don't think idols are demonic. I think they are regular people like you and me who are highly calculated and manipulative. They do show blasphemy and satanic symbolism in their MVs but imo that's only because these things create popularity for them. I am Muslim and I have seen fake converts in my community i.e influencers who pretended to be pious Muslim just to gain followers and earn money from YouTube. If regular people can do this why can't celebrities whose careers depend on popularity do this? They might just be adding controversial symbolisms and demonic concepts because it sells rn and if people started to become interested in religion again I am sure a lot of celebrities will join the bandwagon and pretend to become pious people who love God. Didn't Britney Spears pretend to be a religious virgin back in the day because being a virgin and devout Christian was what was popular and "cool" at that time.
 

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Since @lal golapi replied to this now I want to say
How "I" motivated you to say something?
... I don't agree with VC's idea of satanism in Kpop. I don't think these idols literally sign contracts with the devil and do demonic rituals behind the scenes. I don't believe Satan is so dumb he will do all the things people on these forums talk about. I believe Satan is a trickster and what he does is trick these idols who have large fan followings to manipulate their fans so they waste their lives on Kpop and forget God. They don't have to do rituals or call upon the spirits of fire, water or use gematria, astrology tarot to put spells on people even though some probably do use those things. Scientifically it has become possible to emotionally manipulate people into becoming literal slaves or worshippers of popular celebrities and we see that not just in Kpop but in every fandom whether it is sports fandom, Kpop fandom or political fandoms. So, really idols don't have to be part of some "elite" system trying to ruin the world. The "elites" are just a fancy term for capitalists who own most of the wealth and power in this world and want to control the rest 99% like you and me by keeping us divided and creating a system that makes us 99% poorer while making them wealthier. So, I don't think idols are demonic. I think they are regular people like you and me who are highly calculated and manipulative. They do show blasphemy and satanic symbolism in their MVs but imo that's only because these things create popularity for them. I am Muslim and I have seen fake converts in my community i.e influencers who pretended to be pious Muslim just to gain followers and earn money from YouTube. If regular people can do this why can't celebrities whose careers depend on popularity do this? They might just be adding controversial symbolisms and demonic concepts because it sells rn and if people started to become interested in religion again I am sure a lot of celebrities will join the bandwagon and pretend to become pious people who love God. Didn't Britney Spears pretend to be a religious virgin back in the day because being a virgin and devout Christian was what was popular and "cool" at that time.
The inspiration can be derived from in any form, even from the posters' mental state, not just the theories.
 
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