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JINtercession

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Oh.my.God. How entitled, conceited, holier-than-thou type of person Bt€ can be? Seriously they called out sajegi in music with a straight face? Where were they when this manipulation took place? Ah yes, they were too busy taking advantage of that system. They were quick to pass the buck I see, so no one will wonder about them, because as they all know, what Bt€ say, must be truth, right? Also, what an excellent strategy to turn Armiez against other kpop groups once again, now everyone will make speculations and throw accusations. And it's not the first time they did that subtly. Pedobang has also done this. Also, why didn't they criticize the companies that are behind this instead of the singers? They should have known by now that they are the ones responsible. Bt€ always pushes their "family" image and Armiez always take pride in how their boys have creative freedom and Bigshit is more family than company like other groups that are strictly controlled, but now the other "controlled" groups have to take the blame? It doesn't make sense and they have no respect for others that work equally hard.It's like they are saying they are ones out of the few that are clean.I am so sorry for the rant, but I got so angry by their behavior. If Bt€ know which singers are involved in this, they'd better speak up, because now everyone will be accused,they know their influence. I hope that I'm wrong.


Also, it was perfect analysis love, please, don't ever say it was rubbish, thank you so much for breaking it down for us! Once I saw their mv, I immediately thought about Black Swan movie as well, it was a total rip off. This movie is full of occult symbolism and it depicts demonic posession, soul selling and mk ultra. You guys need to check out this analysis of the movie, it's pretty telling on what Bt€ truly wanted to talk about in their mv as well. Their mv's always portray the same thing lately.

This bolsters my theory of them being disposable and the possible sacrifice of all team members. It's been a concern of mine for a while and I do hope it's not true. Also I have just had a thought. In the twelve days of Christmas it mentioned seven swans swimming. Do you think this has any connection? I tried looking it up and only found that it was a Catholic analogy for the seven gifts of the holy Spirit. Sometimes though, things that appear to have a Christian undertone have a secret occult meaning below the surface such as the original pagan celebration of Christmas. You dug up a really insightful article about Black swan so I want to know if there is such a thing for the twelve days of Christmas? Sorry it's kind of silly.
 

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This bolsters my theory of them being disposable and the possible sacrifice of all team members. It's been a concern of mine for a while and I do hope it's not true. Also I have just had a thought. In the twelve days of Christmas it mentioned seven swans swimming. Do you think this has any connection? I tried looking it up and only found that it was a Catholic analogy for the seven gifts of the holy Spirit. Sometimes though, things that appear to have a Christian undertone have a secret occult meaning below the surface such as the original pagan celebration of Christmas. You dug up a really insightful article about Black swan so I want to know if there is such a thing for the twelve days of Christmas? Sorry it's kind of silly.
Unfortunately I don't know much of the subject, as I don't follow modern Christianity but yeah, I think that it definitely has some relation to it since all symbols have derived from the pagan times, as you put it exactly.

I have read an article about the meaning of swan in esoterism and it said that the swan is not only a symbol of purity, but wisdom and the fire of the sun draws it's powers. It's goal is to master the elements(ascend spiritually) and communicate with different worlds, also has to do with magical powers associated with singing and the sun. I think the "seven swans" are associated with the seventh stage of alchemy (called "Conjunction") where the person that got to the last stage has managed to connect the mind with the spirit, also, the "marriage" of good and bad (hence,the black swan and the white one) and duality (no good without bad) . Then, the illumination has finally completed where the inner and outer world have become one,it's like a closing circle. Maybe that's what Bt€'s mv was all about. I hope this helps a little :)

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Hey guys! I’ve been reading this thread since 2018. You may have seen me liking some of your posts! I always read it before going to bed at night and also letting my partner know about what’s happening too. I’ve known about the satanic entertainment industry since 2009 but never took it seriously. Thank you so much for opening my eyes about what this industry is all about. This is my first post! I’ll let you guys know what I think...

I’ve been watching a kdrama called ‘When the devil calls your name’. It’s basically about a guy who sold his soul to the devil for fame, money and all that stuff. The most interesting part for me and what I’d like to point out is basically, the guy gets ‘reminder letters’ every now and then. These reminder letters (also known as ‘notice of payment’ in the kdrama) let him know when his time is up to give his soul to the devil and ultimately dies. I truly believe this kdrama and many other films/dramas that include the devil/satanic aspects are giving us a huge hint about what the acting/entertainment industry is all about.

Now you must be asking... how must this be related to BT$? Well... I got the vibes from their recent songs ‘Interlude: Shadow (Sug@)’ and ‘Black Swan’.

Firstly, Interlude: Shadow by Sug@ is clearly a song about his alters. You guys already know a lot about MK Ultra and the splitting of the mind so I don’t need to go into much detail with all the mirror shattering symbolism. In the song he says ‘I wanna be a rap star, I wanna be the top, I wanna be a rockstar, I want it all mine, I wanna be rich, I wanna be the king, I wanna go win’ (Pfff talk about greed). This is what I believe he sold his soul for, and is usually what these celebrities sell their souls for. In a way, I feel like he his truly damaged but just reminding himself why he is here in the first place. This part of himself is also an alter of his that enjoys the fame, feeds off of fans energy, enjoys the greed to get more and more and more. I’m not an avid BT$fan (used to be), however fans have figured out how he doesn’t whisper/say his name, something that he apparently does before rapping usually. This means that he is rapping as Min Y00ngi, his real self. We should pay attention. Now I will dissect some interesting lyrics of this song and tell you guys, with my knowledge of the industry, my interpretation.

‘I wondered everyday how far I'd go, I came to my senses and I find myself here’ - he has realised how far he’s come after all the blood sacrifices and other disgusting things that take place in order for celebs to progress and become more famous.

‘I'm afraid, flying high is terrifying’ - he is expressing his concern as BT$ become more famous. He is afraid of what he got himself into.

‘I rise, rise, I hate it. I pray, I pray, hoping to be okay’ - he hates having more and more fame. He knows there is a price to pay to keep all this fame, and quite frankly he hates it. The real min y00ngi hates it, however this is what he got himself into. He prays to be okay... I’m surprised he still even has a conscience. Might his time be almost up? Remember, even the most evil of people will do anything to stay alive, even if their actions cross their morals and values to satisfy their greed, they may think they’re still innocent and deserve to live. I’m sorry sug@ but you danced with the devil... a dance so sweet and tempting that you forgot you had a price to pay, right?

‘Please don't let me shine, Don't let me down, Don't let me fly, Now I'm afraid’
- he is asking his fans (in the mv he is on a stage looking down at hooded figures, which are the audience, holding cameras recording him) to not bring him more fame. He does not want to proceed to a higher level for even more rituals to maintain their fame. This is truly saddening, but he knew what he got himself into. Pleading for help isn’t going to change anything.

BT$ in general have a very clever way of making theories that are seen as creative, but really actually masking what they’re going through. Of course, music is creativity, but as they usually make the lyrics and produce the songs, their lyrics come from what’s happening to them. It’s truly sad how these fans hit the nail on the head with theories that are so close to what they’re actually experiencing, only to turn a blind eye and just enjoy the ‘creativity’ blindly. I’ve always seen this as a type of humiliation ritual... making songs about what they’re actually going through and having all these fans that talk about it for fun, and so-called millions of @rmys not helping them in any way.

Now when it comes to their latest release ‘Black Swan’, the mv is basically just a weird dance mv from dancers and got bored watching it. But the mv starts with a quote:

‘A dancer dies twice - once when they stop dancing, and this first death is the more painful’ - Martha Graham.

Therefore, the mv is focused on these dancers just dancing. However, a closer inspection from the lyrics suggest that BT$ members no longer have their hearts racing or vibrating to songs anymore. Basically admitting that they don’t find passion in making music anymore. However, I believe this is more for their ‘fan theories’... the real dark truth is what they try to closely link this to... DEATHS.

Many of you have speculated about Jn being sacrificed this year, however I have another point of view to bring to you guys...

Sug@ says ‘The heart no longer races, When hearing the music play, Tryna pull up, Seems like time has stopped, Oh that would be my first death, I been always afraid of.’ - I don’t know if it’s the exact translation of the Korean word, but sug@ keeps expressing how he’s ‘afraid’. Not to mention how the part in bold is in English too. As sug@ is the ‘lead’ for this comeback, we should pay attention to his words. Predictive programming? He is afraid of his days counting down. It reminds me of the kdrama I was watching. He knows he’s going to spend eternity in hell. However, one-eyed (r@p m0nstur) also says something similar in the song.

One-eyed says ‘Then like this may be how I die my first death, But what if that moment's right now, Right now’ - I don’t know about you but this is suspicious. Yes again they have managed to cleverly write a whole song based on one quote to fool fans into thinking it’s all ‘creative’. Why would they sing about deaths? Twice in the song. Cmon now. It’s nothing gotta do with a stupid quote.

As sug@ is the lead for this comeback, and as it’s so strongly evil and satanic, I believe sug@ will be sacrificed. As you guys might’ve known with Juice Wrlds death, fans were desensitised by creating a challenge on tiktok for them, letting them mimic his own death 2 weeks (or months idk sorry) before he died. I feel like this is part of predictive programming. If you have been into BT$, or read their fan theories, you will know Sug@ is the one to always commit suicide in a ‘fire’. He starts the song ‘fire’ by saying ‘it’s burning’, in one of the prologues he is seen trying to kill himself in a fire, and also in a room with blazing fire in the Fake Love mv. Fire resembles Hell and Satan in general. Why is fire so related to sug@? Are they trying to hint that sug@ will die as a satanic sacrifice? These are questions I urge you to ask yourself. This fire is a symbol that he is heavily into occult practices and satanic rituals. Or maybe this is used as a symbol for predictive programming. As avid BT$ fans know that sug@ commits suicide in the theories (openly talking about the topic, engaging with it), and also he allegedly tried to commit suicide waaaay before he joined BT$ due to depression and other mental health issues, it might be a desensitising technique used for fans to be more accepting of the fact that he is going to die, so when the real thing happens, of course there is shock, but subsequent immediate approval with no further questions being asked will occur...

And those are my thoughts. Thank you for reading! It is currently exam season for me so I will reply to people after exams are done. However, I will still be reading your thread every now and then.

I will now close my first post with a quote from One-eyed favourite satanic book - Demian: The Story of Emil Sinclair's Youth by Hermann Hesse. I feel like it perfectly encapsulates the lives of the BT$ members.

‘They are living a lie concealed deep within themselves.’
 
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this is off topic, but this EMP thing is so scary

once this happen..I am afraid whats the solution and how can someone escape from this
actually, we had a blackout here too in Indonesia on august 2019, i think theyre doing an experiment for ww3 and that causes a blackout? i dont know, but this is very dangerous and it could literally wipe out civilization, i dont think anyone that lives in a city can escape from this, but seriously, id rather die than live a world where NWO has already been made. we have to move out yall im telling you imma head out lmao.
 

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Black Swan is also synonymous with Vee.
He was seriously dressed as a Blck Swan for his Final singularity performance
(possible foreshadowing?)

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In their Wings Album Vee was the one with Black Wings sprouting from him

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Also in the lyrics;

Verse 1: Suga]
Ayy
The heart no longer races
When hearing the music play
Tryna pull up
Seems like time has stopped
Oh that would be my first death
I been always afraid of


- the "First Death" is them not making music anymore and losing their passion.
- Vee is the one these last few months to look so uninterested in anything BiTs related. He spends more time with his Actor associates and his already married friends.
- Its been noticed that Candyman and Vee are both the ones to stand out in any group shot/ they always have some different outfits that sticks out from the rest.
- possible they both want out and to move on from BTS.

Sorry for long post... still new to actually commenting my observations.
 

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I tried posting my 1000+ words post yesterday, however it still hasn’t been checked by a moderator so I will post the screenshots instead... quite disappointing since I worked hard on my first post (worked on it from 9pm till 11pm). Hope you guys enjoy it! Thank you.
 

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I tried posting my 1000+ words post yesterday, however it still hasn’t been checked by a moderator so I will post the screenshots instead... quite disappointing since I worked hard on my first post (worked on it from 9pm till 11pm). Hope you guys enjoy it! Thank you.
this Kdrama was discussed in the other thread, its basically about Jonghyun, some one pointed it out that his time is 10 years like Jonghyun, I was planned to see it one day lol..but I don't like Kdrama usually..bcz I wanted to know whats secret they reveal about Jonghyun..if you want me to forward you the posts in the other thread, then I will post it here
 

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the poster of black swan movie reminds me of jn in the end of bst mv where he looks into a mirror and then his face starting to crack

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and she is the white swan here, is jn the white swan?
I'm doing an article on Star Wars, Star Wars represents the Jedis (Freemasons) against the Jesuits (Siths). In Star Wars, the Jedi logo is:
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In my opinion, it represents sacrifice, often seen in Star Wars. The fall of a victim, (in Star Wars 8, it has a slight variation, being on a throne). The victim (or Mars), falls (passes in front), Venus in front of Saturn (this creates the black star). Besides, he has the sentence above the mirror in Blood, Sweat & Tears.Including the red beak of the black swan:
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Another interesting thing, a drama returns to KBS: Angel's Last Mission Love:
A drama, which has 32 episodes, and which in episode 30, the girl, is stabbed if I'm not mistaken by a rival (who stabbed her behind the scenes, when she tries to protect her boyfriend, a angel, she will wear a pink dress at this time (Jin wears a pink top, in front of the burning car, in Fire)). She will be stabbed, on the left side (seen from the person), as V stabs her father, on the side, who at another time is represented by J-Hope, who shoots with darts (Blood, Sweat & Tears Japanese version ) a bow in his imagination (Blood, Sweat & Tears). V is struck by his father. During the BTS ZIP photoshoot, V is bloodied while Jin appears with his face completely knocked. The victims of MK Ultra, undergoes games of the dead, we throw them, literally an ax (I met, it was a while ago a victim of MK-Ultra, I understood for the eyes, but I have a quick tick on a drawing he made, his painting represents a dead tree (victim), from which is painted a target, whose ax is thrown. where an ax is thrown (reminiscent of the Peek-A-Boo clip by Red Velvet).
 
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actually, we had a blackout here too in Indonesia on august 2019, i think theyre doing an experiment for ww3 and that causes a blackout? i dont know, but this is very dangerous and it could literally wipe out civilization, i dont think anyone that lives in a city can escape from this, but seriously, id rather die than live a world where NWO has already been made. we have to move out yall im telling you imma head out lmao.
wow really? how did you guys survive it?
I know I know I must ultimately leave Dubai where I am staying, it gonna have one not far away bcz of Iran...I want to go out to Switzerland or New Zealand but my family don't want and don't believe me :(
 

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Forgot to add these two pictures of Vee...
From their lastest photoshoot released, not only is he playing 'mafia' he dawns a Black Swan Mask in some pictures.

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Anyone else reminded of that creepy occult movie?
This reminds me of 50 shade of grey

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And what is the meaning of blood on his body?

He is seen with black and red colors.

"Red has a range of symbolic meanings, including life, health, vigor, war, courage, anger, love and religious fervor. The common thread is that all these require passion, and the "life force" that drives passion blood is red.
When people become angry their faces become flushed with color. When they're happy and healthy, they have rosy cheeks (whereas when they're sick or dying, they have a deathly pallor, lacking in red). When men fight, blood is spilled. In all cases, red blood manifests itself in connection to passion."

"Many ancient cultures believed that black was "the color of mystery and of the mysterious ways and wisdom of God," the historian Ellen Conroy wrote in her book "The Symbolism of Colors" (1921). This was because night, as well as darkness the absence of light transcended human perception in the same way that the wisdom of God was thought to be beyond comprehension.
Of all mysteries, death may have been the biggest. Ancient people were completely "in the dark" about what would happen to them after death, and so it was (and is) represented by the color black in many cultures. There was the added coincidence of death sharing similarities with sleep, which happens in the darkness of night and when closed eyelids block out all light."

 
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at 2:32, He give advise to a fan on vlive. when fan ask "how can I concentrate at my work?" He said "there is only one source of concentration, money". I believe he has enough money for the rest of his life, why he continues?

Once your inside. You cannot leave until they tell you to. And money is never enough. After you get used to a certain wealthy lifestyle. You always have to earn more money because everything is so expensive.
 

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Its yoongi's turn..and jimin has silver hair

They are heading to LA, maybe to perform Black Swan??? Idk but it is clearly for some business
They are performing Black Swan on the James Corden show... it airs on the 28th. They most definitely are going to be working on other things as well.

My question is... isn't Jiin limited on his traveling outside Korea bc of the Military? I could have sworn I read that somewhere.
 

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oh you are back!! Missed your posts
Thanks :) It's nice to see I haven't been forgotten.

They are performing Black Swan on the James Corden show... it airs on the 28th. They most definitely are going to be working on other things as well.

My question is... isn't Jiin limited on his traveling outside Korea bc of the Military? I could have sworn I read that somewhere.
When is he going to start doing his military service?

yes I know but still it is hard to accept.They are ruining lots of life but still his main concern is to pay for luxurious things.
I don't think they care anymore at this point. When you get inside the special circle, you have to give up certain things. Basic things like thinking, morality etc. And I think they have very limited control over songs, acting they do. They are just puppets working for money. Candy said that from day one in a video filmed outside the kpop world in a small cafe. That's their only goal money and fame.
And the rest it's what they are told. But aren't all famous people like that anyways? His latest solo song was so meaningless.


This "black swan" theme and the number" 7" is popping up all of the suddent with their comeback.

To me black swan represents darkness and everything that is evil.

That seven logo looks like somebody who is holding a pen.
Somebody who makes a heart with his fingers. And also a snake.


This brand is based in S.K. Purple color, oness is underlined. Tennis balls in a cage.
I wonder what does the number 15-01-30 represents?


 
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Thanks :) It's nice to see I haven't been forgotten.



When is he going to start doing his military service?



I don't think they care anymore at this point. When you get inside the special circle, you have to give up certain things. Basic things like thinking, morality etc. And I think they have very limited control over songs, acting they do. They are just puppets working for money. Candy said that from day one in a video filmed outside the kpop world in a small cafe. That's their only goal money and fame.
And the rest it's what they are told. But aren't all famous people like that anyways? His latest solo song was so meaningless.


This "black swan" theme and the number" 7" is popping up all of the suddent with their comeback.

To me black swan represents darkness and everything that is evil.

That seven logo looks like somebody who is holding a pen.
Somebody who makes a heart with his fingers. And also a snake.


This brand is based in S.K. Purple color, oness is underlined. Tennis balls in a cage.
I wonder what does the number 15-01-30 represents?


The date 1/15/30 (15-01-30) maybe that shows their ending/when they will disband or lose all their power?? Or when the NWO will rise. It literally said one world one fila. They are not slick.
 

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Jin's hypermobile fingers

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Swan Neck Deformity
Swan neck deformity is a deformed position of the finger, in which the joint closest to the fingertip is permanently bent toward the palm while the nearest joint to the palm is bent away from it (DIP flexion with PIP hyperextension).
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swan_neck_deformity

On some occasions you might've seen Jin wear something like this:
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This is a splint for patients with Swan Neck Deformity. They're usually applied to the most hypermobile finger to protect it from further damage and therefore keeps it from moving.
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Causes

While there are several potential causes of swan neck deformity, the most common cause is rheumatoid arthritis.

Other possible causes may include one or more of the following:

  • other types of arthritis
  • untreated mallet finger - a condition often caused by injury
  • poorly healed fracture in the finger
  • other direct trauma to finger that has weakened the ligaments surrounding the PIP joint
  • nerve damage that causes muscle spasms
  • severely jammed finger tip
  • tightened hand muscles due to injury
  • looseness of the fibrous plate inside the hand located at the base of the fingers
  • loose finger ligaments
  • ruptured finger tendon or tendons
  • some genetic conditions, such as Ehlers-Danlos syndrome
You're probably wondering why I'm telling you all this. In the recent posts, many of you have noticed that Jin is very scared of everything and flinches at every sound. I mentioned that his timidness might come from a maltreatment or other trauma.
It could also be that his Swan Neck Deformity comes from the same trauma or abuse that is responsible for his fearfulness.

We know that Jin comes from a rich family and his father is a CEO. Not all rich people belong to the elite aka the occultists, but I believe that Jin's family is one of them. MK Ultra is often used on young children because it works best. And in MK Ultra torment is often used to cause a trauma.
I know this post is old and the OP is long gone but It's interesting that Jin happened to have a condition called SWAN neck deformity.
Is it predictive programming- perhaps?
 
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