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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/news/bts-star-jungkook-has-car-accident-fans-trying-cover/amp/

I mean thats the thing, thats how they get away with doing things. Because since its technically not that big of a deal for a minor car crash and "accidents always happen" and "people make mistakes" and jk is a young adult who cLeArLY has freedom , he should be covered up, right?! But someone in this thread said that he was apparently out at 4 a.m. which is true what on earth would jk be doing outside at that hour, but yet again he isnt a baby and old enough to be where ever he wants, whenever he wants, but YET AGAIN what is the need of him being that late out alone!

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1076031

Even though it was a minor car crash it was enough to cause bruises and be sent to the hospital! Bish please you dont get bruises by a slight touch to the skin or bumping into something easily, it appears when you get hit HARDDD. And if you get bruises severe enough to go to the hospital, umm that aint minor lol.

It couldnt be because it was dark and hecouldnt see the taxi cause seoul is literally like nyc at night there is lights and lights and lights everywhere, it is lit up at night and im sure quite populated as well with people who stay out all night, yet it seems like these things happen when literally no one is there to witness it, it just comes out in the news/articles that it happened with no one having any idea.

So what was it then? The police also say it wasnt drunk driving or anything offensive so why stay anonymous or simply stay anonymous? Why investigate since its just a SIMPLE car accident that happens daily around the world just like other people? They already let sasaengs get away with their crimes, im sure b*gh*t payed the police to shut up as well. Honestly im getting very wierd dark vibes out of this and just the industry itself and i hope im not the only one
I read that the accident took place at 04:00 am, it wouldn’t be dragged on for so long if it was a minor bump. What the hell was he doing driving at that hour in the first place? Either he must have been drinking or drugging or coming back from a hookup or the combination of all 3. Yeah if I learned something from Seungri’s scandal is that they bribe police to cover up these ”minor” crimes all the time. They have some big shots they buy and the rest is history.
I'm curious as to why junglebook is in that part of seoul at that time.
Did a quick search.
The accident happened in the early hours of saturday(nov 2).So,he spent the night somewhere and is returning to gangnam,where I presume his residence is.
Spending the friday night around y0ngsan where the accident happened.
The road leads from downtown seoul to gangnam through y0ngsan.So,he must've spent the night in downtown.
However,since it was earlier presumed that he might be gay(only a guess,no one knows for sure),I looked for any gay bars on the route.
And this is what I found
" Itaewon is the international epicentre of Seoul’s gay nightlife located in Yongsan District. Many gay bars and clubs are located here, just a short walk from the Itaewon subway station."

It's a drive from itaewon to hannam and if you go over the hannam bridge,you will enter gangnam.The accident might have happened along this route where the overpass is once again joining the other roads, before reaching hannam bridge.A deserted overpass at 4am in the morning,anyone will speed up.However, under influence and lack of sleep, it will be difficult to control a speeding car while getting off the overpass.And bam,it hit the passing taxi that was entering from the other road,from the nearby gas station.
The hospital where they were treated could be S00nchunhyang university hospital,yongsan(as police usually like to keep it in their jurisdiction until further orders).
It's weird because there are many foreign embassies along the route.So,security is definitely high and there will be surveillance.And that's not taking into account the cameras of the gas stations.
I guess he is lucky to not have hit some embassy officials.

This is only speculation,guys,I have no idea if any of this is actually true.:)
 





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I'm curious as to why junglebook is in that part of seoul at that time.
Did a quick search.
The accident happened in the early hours of saturday(nov 2).So,he spent the night somewhere and is returning to gangnam,where I presume his residence is.
Spending the friday night around y0ngsan where the accident happened.
The road leads from downtown seoul to gangnam through y0ngsan.So,he must've spent the night in downtown.
However,since it was earlier presumed that he might be gay(only a guess,no one knows for sure),I looked for any gay bars on the route.
And this is what I found
" Itaewon is the international epicentre of Seoul’s gay nightlife located in Yongsan District. Many gay bars and clubs are located here, just a short walk from the Itaewon subway station."

It's a drive from itaewon to hannam and if you go over the hannam bridge,you will enter gangnam.The accident might have happened along this route where the overpass is once again joining the other roads, before reaching hannam bridge.A deserted overpass at 4am in the morning,anyone will speed up.However, under influence and lack of sleep, it will be difficult to control a speeding car while getting off the overpass.And bam,it hit the passing taxi that was entering from the other road,from the nearby gas station.
The hospital where they were treated could be S00nchunhyang university hospital,yongsan(as police usually like to keep it in their jurisdiction until further orders).
It's weird because there are many foreign embassies along the route.So,security is definitely high and there will be surveillance.And that's not taking into account the cameras of the gas stations.
I guess he is lucky to not have hit some embassy officials.

This is only speculation,guys,I have no idea if any of this is actually true.:)
I hope you are considering investigations as a career lol (assuming how you type are you in your early 20s). An excellent theory. Now, how does he keep his famous image from making a scene in these spots? Maybe he got buddies that he knows who will keep it on the low. Maybe he actually just heads to these bars for a very quick action.. A few intakes of pills or drinks and goes on with his day. Maybe he is not a client but a provider.

THESE idols owe so much money and don't even make crap so I am guessing that their income needs to come from another source.
 





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Also to take into account:
- I read about 15 different news articles and they all state "drunk driving was not the cause of the accident" as like if they are paid to hush the truth. Why suddenly the assumption that people would believe it was due to drunk driving if BT$ are saviors of the world and teach us how to be better human beings? With all that $$ they supposedly receive from being idols they should not be driving around at those hours unless they needed to make private stops along their route.
 





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Probably considered way off topic but Prep is being advertised in the WEST like crazy now. Frank Ocean even opened up a club to promote it . Prep is a pill used to prevent HIV/AIDS and are now offered in G@y clubs.. well guess what, it is now available in SK so no assumptions there of course. People want to get their hands on it because it is easier to do more actions (LOL) without protection and prevent yourself from contracting these risky infections.
 





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I will stop typing so much, but ever thought that this could be a form of money laundering maybe he heads out in those early hours or comes back to make rounds to local bars, shops, or clubs because it is impossible that BH was in the brink of being dumped in the street to elevating to this crazy success.
 





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Good theory, could be. It is a strange accident, and suddenly there's a strange announcement from BH that he broke a specific traffic law as if that matters. The main idea is that nobody goes to the hospital for a minor injury so if both JK and the taxi driver got sent to the hospital either the whole thing was fake to test the crowd and reactions or this was bigger than just a regular bump on the trunk. BH has connections so they could definitely pay off the news easily but police and first responders in SK are whistle-blowers too because they are probably paid off by some media outlets. Actually 70% of fans on social media are bashing the crap out of JK and totally wrecking havoc on his image. 30% are just cleaning the hashtags like usual and are bashing anybody who claims Jk was at fault since we are all humans and make simple mistakes, don't get me wrong we are all imperfect.. the point is that BT$ can livestream themselves murdering their grandma and probably half of his fans are so brainwashed they will say she deserved it.
This could also be just a foreshadowing of a future "incident".
Again, J!n's theory for sacrifice is kind of dumb at this point. They need a member with more power...


Again maybe this could be a punishment for his mess he caused by becoming an e-boy and hanging with those tattoo peeps lmao.
Yeah .. i want to see through all the possibilities here.

Too many theories going on but let me add 1 more here among others.

First of all the accident might be fake because of some possibilities discussed above..
Second of all if the accident is real..and that company is using him to pay off the debts by making him make rounds around the clubs bars to deliver something messy..he just might have done this on purpose..? So that the company gets exposed and he gets free from torture and stuff..he is growing up afterall..and he feels like he just might be more rebellious than tae.. he has been having his ways lately too.
 





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Yeah .. i want to see through all the possibilities here.

Too many theories going on but let me add 1 more here among others.

First of all the accident might be fake because of some possibilities discussed above..
Second of all if the accident is real..and that company is using him to pay off the debts by making him make rounds around the clubs bars to deliver something messy..he just might have done this on purpose..? So that the company gets exposed and he gets free from torture and stuff..he is growing up afterall..and he feels like he just might be more rebellious than tae.. he has been having his ways lately too.
Damn that is a great theory too. Although, if he exposes the dirty of BH he will pay huge consequences or maybe he does it little by little to not be so overt and it would seem like he just slipped up temporarily. I feel like most of them are closeted so they also do the dirty to get what they want. How do you think Tae learned to dance as gracious as he did with those heels.
 





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I'm curious as to why junglebook is in that part of seoul at that time.
Did a quick search.
The accident happened in the early hours of saturday(nov 2).So,he spent the night somewhere and is returning to gangnam,where I presume his residence is.
Spending the friday night around y0ngsan where the accident happened.
The road leads from downtown seoul to gangnam through y0ngsan.So,he must've spent the night in downtown.
However,since it was earlier presumed that he might be gay(only a guess,no one knows for sure),I looked for any gay bars on the route.
And this is what I found
" Itaewon is the international epicentre of Seoul’s gay nightlife located in Yongsan District. Many gay bars and clubs are located here, just a short walk from the Itaewon subway station."

It's a drive from itaewon to hannam and if you go over the hannam bridge,you will enter gangnam.The accident might have happened along this route where the overpass is once again joining the other roads, before reaching hannam bridge.A deserted overpass at 4am in the morning,anyone will speed up.However, under influence and lack of sleep, it will be difficult to control a speeding car while getting off the overpass.And bam,it hit the passing taxi that was entering from the other road,from the nearby gas station.
The hospital where they were treated could be S00nchunhyang university hospital,yongsan(as police usually like to keep it in their jurisdiction until further orders).
It's weird because there are many foreign embassies along the route.So,security is definitely high and there will be surveillance.And that's not taking into account the cameras of the gas stations.
I guess he is lucky to not have hit some embassy officials.

This is only speculation,guys,I have no idea if any of this is actually true.:)
The accident happened near their dorms (Hannam Yongsan). I also read that the accident actually happened some days prior (aka not on the saturday) but the news was just released. There is no way to know if he was going to the dorms or somewhere else from wherever he was coming, but the dorms makes the most sense. You see, they may not live there full time, but they will stay at the dorms when they they have planned schedules. Why would the company spend so much money on expensive dorms if they never stayed there? Either way it only makes sense if he had been out to (gay) bars or clubs/ nightlife places nearby if he was driving alone at that hour. Itaweon is Seoul’s gay district and quite close by as you pointed out.

Look at this tweet:

I think the possibility of the accident being fake is null. Police, medical staff at a hospital, the victim and media are all involved. Too many witnesses with heavy responsibility (police and hospital staff) for this to be fake. Also Junglebook gains nothing by ruining his own reputation, it does more damage to him than the anyone else.
 





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Probably considered way off topic but Prep is being advertised in the WEST like crazy now. Frank Ocean even opened up a club to promote it . Prep is a pill used to prevent HIV/AIDS and are now offered in G@y clubs.. well guess what, it is now available in SK so no assumptions there of course. People want to get their hands on it because it is easier to do more actions (LOL) without protection and prevent yourself from contracting these risky infections.
Prep only protects against HIV, not other rampant STIs like syphilis or chlamydia which are on the rise among MSM. Using it is not that easy either, you must consume regularly and people tend to forget. Either way new cases of HIV are still very high among this group, especially if they have unprotected sex under substance influence. In one session you could see them going through 20 people if they take cocaine or lsd. And yeah, not to over generalize, but a lot of g@ys are quite promiscous. Sex is always readily available for them. These guys probably have discreet hookups (presumably where they pay) all the time after their drinking/drugging sessions (also more common among msm).

Tbh I think Jimbo likely has/ has had an STI. He and junglebook are the trainwrecks in the group closely followed by Teacup and Candyman. Next is one-eyed although he seems to be stronger than the rest of them. Hobo and Jin are on the same level.

If feel sorry for whoever dates one-eyed, but my observations are that he tends to be attracted to people like himself such as Halsey, those girls in Red Velvet or that pansexual british-japanese artist (or Shawn Mendes for that matter). Perfect matches for him.
 





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This car accident thing is making me uneasy, because other idols have had less serious ‘accidents’ before they ended up dead for real.
I hope I’m blowing it out of proportion but I feel really concerned for JK now.
Literally same! Since last night i felt very uneasy and dark vibes about this whole situation, and i still do. It just doesnt sound or feel normal, its like JK is starting to grow rebellion or enjoying more perverted things or drugging/drinking himself til he passes out. And then they post selfies and smile in pubic after that like not a single damn thing even happened, i literally am speechless
 





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Literally same! Since last night i felt very uneasy and dark vibes about this whole situation, and i still do. It just doesnt sound or feel normal, its like JK is starting to grow rebellion or enjoying more perverted things or drugging/drinking himself til he passes out. And then they post selfies and smile in pubic after that like not a single damn thing even happened, i literally am speechless
It’s crazy how they seem to live totally different lives away from the cameras etc.
I hope this is just what they say it is - a minor car accident, and everything is ok.... but knowing bigshit and the whole industry I doubt that it’s what they claim it to be and I’m waiting for something worse to come. Hope I’m wrong tho
 





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reports are saying the accident took place on the 31st (that's actually 4 days before the news came out :oops:)
and the police investigation still going with them looking at the CCTV material

It's obvious something bigger went down but the statement that was released to the public was fixed

I think with their new contract they have more "freedom", that means they can get tattoos, drive alone, and go to clubs etc. That's why everything changed so fast.
think about this: in the past month we saw JK involved with cocaine tatoo gang , we saw him getting tattoos all over his body...and now we see him getting in trouble with the police

he was desperate to live some type of normal life and he did all of that too quick, he was desperate to get some "freedom" and it all went wrong.....this happens to all child stars sooner or later
 





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It’s crazy how they seem to live totally different lives away from the cameras etc.
I hope this is just what they say it is - a minor car accident, and everything is ok.... but knowing bigshit and the whole industry I doubt that it’s what they claim it to be and I’m waiting for something worse to come. Hope I’m wrong tho
You are sadly most likely NOT wrong ;-;
 





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reports are saying the accident took place on the 31st (that's actually 4 days before the news came out :oops:)
and the police investigation still going with them looking at the CCTV material

It's obvious something bigger went down but the statement that was released to the public was fixed

I think with their new contract they have more "freedom", that means they can get tattoos, drive alone, and go to clubs etc. That's why everything changed so fast.
think about this: in the past month we saw JK involved with cocaine tatoo gang , we saw him getting tattoos all over his body...and now we see him getting in trouble with the police

he was desperate to live some type of normal life and he did all of that too quick, he was desperate to get some "freedom" and it all went wrong.....this happens to all child stars sooner or later
Hm, yeah that does in fact make sense! Regardless of what he's doing, I have slight hope for him that he can someday expose them! I don't know if you heard of that one video of kanye west where he exposed google, facebook, media, etc and basically just shouted the truth. One day I hope jk does that. The thing is, the consequences though- so currently I'm just waiting to see what happens next.
 





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reports are saying the accident took place on the 31st (that's actually 4 days before the news came out :oops:)
and the police investigation still going with them looking at the CCTV material

It's obvious something bigger went down but the statement that was released to the public was fixed

I think with their new contract they have more "freedom", that means they can get tattoos, drive alone, and go to clubs etc. That's why everything changed so fast.
think about this: in the past month we saw JK involved with cocaine tatoo gang , we saw him getting tattoos all over his body...and now we see him getting in trouble with the police

he was desperate to live some type of normal life and he did all of that too quick, he was desperate to get some "freedom" and it all went wrong.....this happens to all child stars sooner or later
yeah, reminds me of disn3y child stars, they became a mess afterwards because thats how they can cope with their trauma, i feel bad for him ngl, he was the most innocent out of them all, i always saw a glimmer of hope in his eyes but now its all gone and darkness had consumed it, he is the most damaged of them all for sure, no wonder why he turned g4y, i feel like he was straight before but he has been in the industry since he was a minor so they had taken over him and is being a bad influence on him, maybe those people told him that being g4y is okay, which is not okay, i feel so bad for him, and i dont even like btshit at all, but i feel like all of this had to do with his mental health since we saw him with cut marks on his arms, he definetly is self destructive and he thinks hurting himself is good, and his family seems to dont care about him since they sent him to the industry and basically forced him to sing, :( poor dude.
 





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reports are saying the accident took place on the 31st (that's actually 4 days before the news came out :oops:)
and the police investigation still going with them looking at the CCTV material

It's obvious something bigger went down but the statement that was released to the public was fixed

I think with their new contract they have more "freedom", that means they can get tattoos, drive alone, and go to clubs etc. That's why everything changed so fast.
think about this: in the past month we saw JK involved with cocaine tatoo gang , we saw him getting tattoos all over his body...and now we see him getting in trouble with the police

he was desperate to live some type of normal life and he did all of that too quick, he was desperate to get some "freedom" and it all went wrong.....this happens to all child stars sooner or later
I couldn’t agree more, a lot of young stars end up this way. The younger they enter the industry, the more damaged they become. Look at Sulli for e.g, she wasn’t even a teen when she entered, even younger than Hyuna or Jk. JB, Britney, Miley Cyrus the list is long. Michael Jackson was only 5 years old. As much as a great artist he was, he didn’t turn human as an adult. I am not justifying his actions, he was very much guilty, but a victim too. Imagine being 6 yo and performing at clubs late at night while being at the mercy of devilish music executives and a bastard father. A vicious cycle of abuse. On a sidenote: Timberlake turned out alright compared to the rest, I wonder why. Selena isn’t half bad either. Guess there are exceptions.

However, JK is not the only member doing dirty stuff, we have all seen Jimin. But he is the one getting in trouble all the time. He isn’t very smart, Bigshit needs to do something about him, or else he will be the end of them if this continues. He is taking a self destructive route, but is anyone surprised?
 





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I couldn’t agree more, a lot of young stars end up this way. The younger they enter the industry, the more damaged they become. Look at Sulli for e.g, she wasn’t even a teen when he entered, even younger than Hyuna or Jk. JB, Britney, Miley Cyrus the list is long. Michael Jackson was only 5 years old. As much as a great artist he was, he didn’t turn human as an adult. I am not justifying his actions, he was very much guilty, but a victim too. Imagine being 6 yo and performing at clubs late at night while being at the mercy of devilish music executives and a bastard father. A vicious cycle of abuse. On a sidenote: Timberlake turned out alright compared to the rest, I wonder why. Selena isn’t half bad either. Guess there are exceptions.

However, JK is not the only member doing dirty stuff, we have all seen Jimin. But he is the one getting in trouble all the time. He isn’t very smart, Bigshit needs to do something about him, or else he will be the end of them if this continues. He is taking a self destructive route, but is anyone surprised?
Rumors are that Selena is a heroin addict. Don't know how true that is, but I've heard it mentioned by more than one source.

I don't know how parents ever let their kids get involved with the entertainment industry. Nearly all child stars end up like this eventually. The ones who make it out without a drug addiction or a mental breakdown are the exception, not the rule. They are just pimping out their kids for $. If they can't see that, they are in some serious denial. I bet a lot of them know and just don't care because it doesn't matter how the money gets made as long as they get their cut of it.
 





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I couldn’t agree more, a lot of young stars end up this way. The younger they enter the industry, the more damaged they become. Look at Sulli for e.g, she wasn’t even a teen when he entered, even younger than Hyuna or Jk. JB, Britney, Miley Cyrus the list is long. Michael Jackson was only 5 years old. As much as a great artist he was, he didn’t turn human as an adult. I am not justifying his actions, he was very much guilty, but a victim too. Imagine being 6 yo and performing at clubs late at night while being at the mercy of devilish music executives and a bastard father. A vicious cycle of abuse. On a sidenote: Timberlake turned out alright compared to the rest, I wonder why. Selena isn’t half bad either. Guess there are exceptions.

However, JK is not the only member doing dirty stuff, we have all seen Jimin. But he is the one getting in trouble all the time. He isn’t very smart, Bigshit needs to do something about him, or else he will be the end of them if this continues. He is taking a self destructive route, but is anyone surprised?
yes, child stars usually end up addicted to drugs or self destructing
I posted before about the 1direction guy, he said he turned to alcohol because he was so sad, and if he stayed in the group he would have died

Liam Payne Says Staying in One Direction ‘Would’ve Killed’ Him
“There’s no stop button. You’ve got no control over your life. That’s why I lost complete control of everything,”


JK joined the group when he was a kid so he never had a chance to be "normal", and there are signs of him self harming too so I think he has bigger issues