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Maldarker

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There are plenty of youtube documentary videos and google documents, look up for it :) those are more reliable and realistic rather than believeing this on the basis of some butterfly and broken glass symbol.



officially its a failed project if u look up for the documentaries. But if its secretly perfected in a way then we don't know. I say like this because those victims basically become physically and mentally stonned and very weak, even in some of those youtube videos which show victims various personas working in various categogies, their physical stamina isn't normal. So in this scenario if we want to categorize those kpop idols who need to sing, dance, workout, practice, tour, do shows and so on, this doesn't fit in where they need to be very strong to handle all these physical labor. They are just drugged up to its core and overworked gotta say and so occasionally show up so called all those glitches and spaced out behaviours.
Mkultra was the proto type beginning of mind control. Where how many decades out from when it first became exposed? Come on procedures get better new tech and techniques implemented...We are waaayyyy past mkultra. Not failed....just better.
 






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Mkultra was the proto type beginning of mind control. Where how many decades out from when it first became exposed? Come on procedures get better new tech and techniques implemented...We are waaayyyy past mkultra. Not failed....just better.
Then where is the proof of it except some symbols that can have various hidden meanings? A conspiracy theory which was a project in the past, just because it failed doesn't make it automatically valided to claim as perfected. When we talk about occult, satanism, p***philia, those are already out, but no trace about perfected mk uktra, but yeah trace of high drugs.
 






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Then where is the proof of it except some symbols that can have various hidden meanings? When we talk about occult, satanism, pedofilia, those are already out, but no trace about perfected mk uktra, but yeah trace of high drugs.
I dealt with it in the military.
 






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Most information you find online is outdated so getting up to date info on this is hard. insiders rarely come out and speak openly about this a lot of the times. But mk ultra exists and believe it or not bts have been through it. The point of it (well I dont know much but from what I know) I see is to create alters yes but also theres different levels of programming.
It isnt letting me get into much detail because its not posting my posts properly.
Members in bts that were born into this have been trained as children even before "trainee" period so it should be a no brainer tbh. mk ultra is alive and thriving. Thats what I have to say. Stay safe guys and please your life right and whats happening with it is much more important than a boyband. Some of ya'll need to rest from all this. There is a lot of negative energy here. Take a break guys. Focus on yourselves too.
 






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Ya'll might wanna look into this. Although this book is quite old and most information may have been outdated due to many enhancements for various reasons. You really cant tell me that a crazy dude sat down and wrote 500+ pages of complete nonsense. LOL.
Search The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave by Cisco Wheeler and Fritz Springmeier
And for the video on youtube-
ROSEANNE- MK ULTRA - Hollywood Stars Kidnapped
Focus on time stamp 2:00 to 2:35.
I really had to delete so much just so i could post loool. But its ok
 






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Dont wanna sound rude but Proof?
It all started in the late 80's basic training and vaccines then losing time approximately 1 month or so....that's where it started. I think stuff that happened in my youth contributed to this happening in the military....and yes a lot of it i still need and want answers to.
 






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And one more interesting thing, so many of mantras are also hidden in the songs we listen to. They put 'yantras' (symbols) in music videos and mantras in music to destroy our spiritual energies.
Can you provide examples in specific songs/MVs?
 






lal golapi

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Ya'll might wanna look into this. Although this book is quite old and most information may have been outdated due to many enhancements for various reasons. You really cant tell me that a crazy dude sat down and wrote 500+ pages of complete nonsense. LOL.
Search The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave by Cisco Wheeler and Fritz Springmeier
And for the video on youtube-
ROSEANNE- MK ULTRA - Hollywood Stars Kidnapped
Focus on time stamp 2:00 to 2:35.
I really had to delete so much just so i could post loool. But its ok
Of course what the writter wrote is amazing and informative. But you yourself said its an old book, without any real life trace this can't be applicable in today's world. And someone suddenly popping up saying anything is not any proof, anyone can make any candy story to appeal public, thats part of the mass media. This is easy to claim someone is mind crontrolled, somone is moonchild or anything etc, but when we ask for proof in today's world there comes the real deal. Something is a conspiracy and not much talked in the mass media doesn't make it secretly happening, there are lots of hidden agendas going on out there to control mass people, not for celebraties are already in front their eye being controlled with staffs and camera. Money is the root cause of everything. They do anything to make maximum profit consuming strategya and less amount of time, not any applying conspiracy theories which have no clue in the real world. This is what I said a few days ago to distinguish between true and false info about theories before absorbing.
 






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Have you ever watched burn the stage, bring the soul all these behind the scenes videos?
There is no way they are posessed or under magic trance or whatever you wanna call it. They are just freemasons following orders and pushing agendas without questioning. They are constantly on cameras through various shows to do even anything secretly, let alone magic. Satanic ritual and magic are not the same thing. When someone performing prayer thats a ritual, not summoning by magic. Same goes for those satanic rituals. They are showing their loyalty flashing satanic and disturbing symbols and wearing robes and paying homage to satan or master whatever is that. If every high level rituals were performed by them, then they would be elite, not puppet. No elite needs to please general people with stupid aegyos and in provocative ways and to be overworked.

And you also have to understand what is joke and humor and what is not. If I say I live with pet demon, who on earth would believe that. Same goes for b4ng p3dos statement years ago who wasn't even that wealthy. Yes as he is a ceo now I believe he is already in those nasty rituals, but those boys are not trustable to go through that yet, they are still much young. They just do whatever they need to do to show loyalty under strict observation.
I understand you. Its hard to believe things like this until you experience it yourself. 'mAgIc' sounds like a joke to the people of this generation but sister, it doesn't mean if you don't know about it then it does not exist.
Ok now on the point. You said satanic rituals and magic are different things, and when someone's performing prayer thats ritual right? I want to tell you that ritual does not only include prayers. Rituals includes so many things we have to perform in a pattern, in particular time (mhurat), with specific number of people etc and all of this things are important to have the ritual successfully done. Now, black magic does not happen easily by its own. You have to do the same for it, perform specific ritual, on particular time, etc. There are different types of black magic for different purposes and they all have their particular rituals. There are different rituals for white magic too. You meant they are satanists doesn't mean they are black magicians, but one thing i want to clear satanism cannot be completed without having black magic in it. Even if you search it on google, it will give you different answers but what i have experienced in my life, i can say it without any hesitation. And you said BTS are on the stage and front of camera whole day that they don't have time to be spelled by any magic mantra, then i also want to tell you it doesn't matter where you are, what your doing, your busy or not, if someone is doing spells on you, chanting mantras by your name, doing all those rituals for you in your back then it can affect you no matter how far or close you are. You also said mk ultra isn't real, idk about that, you can watch that video of nat geo on YouTube then compare it with euphoria mv. Well that also doesn't proof that mk ultra is real or not but again i want to say, mk ultra is not the only way you can control someone's mind. So it doesn't matter if its through mk ultra or not but mind control is real.
 






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I understand you. Its hard to believe things like this until you experience it yourself. 'mAgIc' sounds like a joke to the people of this generation but sister, it doesn't mean if you don't know about it then it does not exist.
Ok now on the point. You said satanic rituals and magic are different things, and when someone's performing prayer thats ritual right? I want to tell you that ritual does not only include prayers. Rituals includes so many things we have to perform in a pattern, in particular time (mhurat), with specific number of people etc and all of this things are important to have the ritual successfully done. Now, black magic does not happen easily by its own. You have to do the same for it, perform specific ritual, on particular time, etc. There are different types of black magic for different purposes and they all have their particular rituals. There are different rituals for white magic too. You meant they are satanists doesn't mean they are black magicians, but one thing i want to clear satanism cannot be completed without having black magic in it. Even if you search it on google, it will give you different answers but what i have experienced in my life, i can say it without any hesitation. And you said BTS are on the stage and front of camera whole day that they don't have time to be spelled by any magic mantra, then i also want to tell you it doesn't matter where you are, what your doing, your busy or not, if someone is doing spells on you, chanting mantras by your name, doing all those rituals for you in your back then it can affect you no matter how far or close you are. You also said mk ultra isn't real, idk about that, you can watch that video of nat geo on YouTube then compare it with euphoria mv. Well that also doesn't proof that mk ultra is real or not but again i want to say, mk ultra is not the only way you can control someone's mind. So it doesn't matter if its through mk ultra or not but mind control is real.
There might be people in your life too that you need to be aware of. Im wrote this to spread awareness because you cannot trust anyone these days. You see BTS trusted bang pedo now what is happening with them. Black magicians don't have it written on their face that they're black magicians. The earlier you accept that it exists, the better you can protect yourself and your family. And it is one big reason that some sickness does not cure with medications and treatments, because it needs to be cure with magic otherwise i would have died that day. I remember someone in the kpop discussion group said that wearing pearls and stones for protection is blasphemy to God. I used to think the same but its not true. I haven't said it there because you can only know it when you experience it. Now its upto you, you want to believe me or not. Its upto you. I pray for everyone's safety : ) peace out
 






lal golapi

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I understand you. Its hard to believe things like this until you experience it yourself. 'mAgIc' sounds like a joke to the people of this generation but sister, it doesn't mean if you don't know about it then it does not exist.
Ok now on the point. You said satanic rituals and magic are different things, and when someone's performing prayer thats ritual right? I want to tell you that ritual does not only include prayers. Rituals includes so many things we have to perform in a pattern, in particular time (mhurat), with specific number of people etc and all of this things are important to have the ritual successfully done. Now, black magic does not happen easily by its own. You have to do the same for it, perform specific ritual, on particular time, etc. There are different types of black magic for different purposes and they all have their particular rituals. There are different rituals for white magic too. You meant they are satanists doesn't mean they are black magicians, but one thing i want to clear satanism cannot be completed without having black magic in it. Even if you search it on google, it will give you different answers but what i have experienced in my life, i can say it without any hesitation. And you said BTS are on the stage and front of camera whole day that they don't have time to be spelled by any magic mantra, then i also want to tell you it doesn't matter where you are, what your doing, your busy or not, if someone is doing spells on you, chanting mantras by your name, doing all those rituals for you in your back then it can affect you no matter how far or close you are. You also said mk ultra isn't real, idk about that, you can watch that video of nat geo on YouTube then compare it with euphoria mv. Well that also doesn't proof that mk ultra is real or not but again i want to say, mk ultra is not the only way you can control someone's mind. So it doesn't matter if its through mk ultra or not but mind control is real.
Of course black magic is real, I never said that doesn't exist. You can say high level hollywood stars but when I say kpop stars are not in that that I mean they are already too busy to do stuffs on camera, even when they are not on cameras they are constantly shooting, practicing, travelling and more and also need some private time of course, then where is the time for them to all those rituals with alters? And if anyone says beetees has conquered hollywood, they are still trying so hard to win but being used as clout. I have to say when they are already highly protected and controlled by the agency, there is no need to of that kind of mind control and magic. All those exposure of occultism out there, they are doing it to make people used to it when the real end time comes, noone will question whats evil and not and accept everyt agenda, and its working just look at them. Elites and mass media are more focused on how can they control general people in their way. That is why they constantly need to brainwash public with various ways, not celebrities who are already in their sweet prison signing contracts by their own will.
 






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Stop arguing over whether MK ultra exists or not. It doesn't matter, these people are still out there explicitly promoting pedofilia,r*pe,abuse and all forms of satanism. I hate to be rude but you don't need MK ultra to be completely sick in the head.There are equal possibilities of both outcomes, but none of us might ever find out
 






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Of course what the writter wrote is amazing and informative. But you yourself said its an old book, without any real life trace this can't be applicable in today's world. And someone suddenly popping up saying anything is not any proof, anyone can make any candy story to appeal public, thats part of the mass media. This is easy to claim someone is mind crontrolled, somone is moonchild or anything etc, but when we ask for proof in today's world there comes the real deal. Something is a conspiracy and not much talked in the mass media doesn't make it secretly happening, there are lots of hidden agendas going on out there to control mass people, not for celebraties are already in front their eye being controlled with staffs and camera. Money is the root cause of everything. They do anything to make maximum profit consuming strategya and less amount of time, not any applying conspiracy theories which have no clue in the real world. This is what I said a few days ago to distinguish between true and false info about theories before absorbing.
Well im sorry if you misunderstood my post, I dont think i explained it well. I never said there isnt real life trace. If you infer I actually said the opposite. I said that no crazy person will waste so much time writing so much only for it to be nonsensical. Which means that there has to have been "real life trace" otherwise where did all these pages of just monarch mind control techniques come from? Did you watch the video I talked about? She is an insider and the only reason she said that and got away with it is because they let her off, they maybe even allowed her what more "proof" do you want. mk ultra, symbolism etc is just the tip of the ice berg, all this info you know is mainly because they allowed it to come out. People who got away exposing the industry happened because they allowed for it to happen. Do you really expect someone lets say a bts member to come out and say "hello i am kim taehyung and i have been through mk ultra, our songs like pied piper are not songs about love but of complete mockery, we are free masons and have done this and that and we are lying to you right in front of your face" lol that seems quite far fetched if you ask me ngl. Although they look done most of the times and leave hints. Their movies, and behind the scenes of their movies....... well just because its "behind the scenes" you aint gonna see a full blown sacrifice now are ya sis. They will only show you what THEY WANT. Even their behind the scenes is staged. When mk ultra is mentioned what do you think? like I mentioned they have all undergone programming. But mk ultra doesn't leave a person under a trance 24/7, it is there for a reason. There are so many layers to mk ultra (that was unintentional lol), and there are like I mentioned different types of programming e.g. theta programming. Alters can also be specifically made for certain purposes for example the sexual alter, quite self explanatory tbh. Then another alter for maybe sacrifices, then another one for onstage performances and for a front. But they are also their own human, they are aware of their doings. Let me give you an example. I hate to keep bringing tae up lol but he's a great example. He has V, TAEHYUNG, TAETAE maybe more idk idc. Now what does that tell you? He even said "V can show parts of taehyung, but taehyung cant show v. Taehyung is still inquisitive about many things" like he's referring to them as 2 different people but for one person??? Also about the book being "old" what I meant was that those strategies because of "enhancement" e.g. technological enhancements could have become more efficient or more effective i'm not going to go ahead and list traumatic strategies but i'm sure that book has more than enough for you to look into. I think the "proof" you are after can be easily seen through THEIR tools such as numerology, astrology etc there are common themes through these tools that can be found in those born into it such as birthdays e.g. tae and jin being capricorns and december children etc. Music is frequency programmed. frequency and magic. Now if they can use these to get us into certain moods/ thought processes then imagine what more they can do. Take care.
 






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Well im sorry if you misunderstood my post, I dont think i explained it well. I never said there isnt real life trace. If you infer I actually said the opposite. I said that no crazy person will waste so much time writing so much only for it to be nonsensical. Which means that there has to have been "real life trace" otherwise where did all these pages of just monarch mind control techniques come from? Did you watch the video I talked about? She is an insider and the only reason she said that and got away with it is because they let her off, they maybe even allowed her what more "proof" do you want. mk ultra, symbolism etc is just the tip of the ice berg, all this info you know is mainly because they allowed it to come out. People who got away exposing the industry happened because they allowed for it to happen. Do you really expect someone lets say a bts member to come out and say "hello i am kim taehyung and i have been through mk ultra, our songs like pied piper are not songs about love but of complete mockery, we are free masons and have done this and that and we are lying to you right in front of your face" lol that seems quite far fetched if you ask me ngl. Although they look done most of the times and leave hints. Their movies, and behind the scenes of their movies....... well just because its "behind the scenes" you aint gonna see a full blown sacrifice now are ya sis. They will only show you what THEY WANT. Even their behind the scenes is staged. When mk ultra is mentioned what do you think? like I mentioned they have all undergone programming. But mk ultra doesn't leave a person under a trance 24/7, it is there for a reason. There are so many layers to mk ultra (that was unintentional lol), and there are like I mentioned different types of programming e.g. theta programming. Alters can also be specifically made for certain purposes for example the sexual alter, quite self explanatory tbh. Then another alter for maybe sacrifices, then another one for onstage performances and for a front. But they are also their own human, they are aware of their doings. Let me give you an example. I hate to keep bringing tae up lol but he's a great example. He has V, TAEHYUNG, TAETAE maybe more idk idc. Now what does that tell you? He even said "V can show parts of taehyung, but taehyung cant show v. Taehyung is still inquisitive about many things" like he's referring to them as 2 different people but for one person??? Also about the book being "old" what I meant was that those strategies because of "enhancement" e.g. technological enhancements could have become more efficient or more effective i'm not going to go ahead and list traumatic strategies but i'm sure that book has more than enough for you to look into. I think the "proof" you are after can be easily seen through THEIR tools such as numerology, astrology etc there are common themes through these tools that can be found in those born into it such as birthdays e.g. tae and jin being capricorns and december children etc. Music is frequency programmed. frequency and magic. Now if they can use these to get us into certain moods/ thought processes then imagine what more they can do. Take care.
Sorry you misunderstood. I meant that book is written years before and mk ultra is failed. And anyone can say anything on media as hot topic. Im sorry if it sounds a bit off. Of course that book is legit, but what I said with real life trace I meant the where is the connection between the old book with the current world that is way too materialistic for spiritual stuffs to be used. These can exist but not in a way we would like to think, there is a fine line between the reality and conspiracy theories. And those agencies don't revolve around just to control them, they have more sinister business to maintain rather focusing on who sell their body willingly.
And yes you are right frequencies are way too powerful, there are many articles on it too. Yeah I respect you opinion, take care.
 






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Sorry you misunderstood. I meant that book is written years before and mk ultra is failed. And anyone can say anything on media as hot topic. Im sorry if it sounds a bit off. Of course that book is legit, but what I said with real life trace I meant the current world that is way too materialistic for spiritual stuffs to used. These can exist but not in a way we would like to think, there is a fine line between the reality and conspiracy theories.
Its ok ahaha, I appreciate your calculative approach I will believe mk ultra doesn't exist if you can explain to me in todays world the 3rd eye, demon possession, spirits etc what does all that come under?
These things form occult practices, this world maybe materialistic but they've had to make literal and figurative sacrifices. Money and fame doesn't come easy, this world after-all was never ours.
MK ultra in the media isn't a "hot" topic. That woman was an insider. But ok. :)
 






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Its ok ahaha, I appreciate your calculative approach I will believe mk ultra doesn't exist if you can explain to me in todays world the 3rd eye, demon possession, spirits etc what does all that come under?
These things form occult practices, this world maybe materialistic but they've had to make literal and figurative sacrifices. Money and fame doesn't come easy, this world after-all was never ours.
MK ultra in the media isn't a "hot" topic. That woman was an insider. But ok. :)
Aha I admire you. We don't know how much that woman is legit with that topic. One thing I can say media jokes about whenever anyone talks about illuminati, never misses the chance but someone is being passed to say mk ultra, thats pretty interesting to believe. Im skeptical about mind control and its upto you what you wanna absorb.
You are right occult practices and s4crifices are going on out there but thats don't revolve around idols everytime, I myself made some s4crifice theories. I want to connect all that theories with the world we see. Thats much more bigger and complicated than the boundary of conspiracies that contradict themselves. But its upto people whar they wanna take to be legit and not, noone can force :)
 






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Apologize to burst the bubbles here, but my question is how the occultism and mk ultra work to control someone/something? I never understand the deepest layers of conspiracy may work, i only knew that they using celebrities to normalize sin such as using satanic symbols or exposing sex acts in video.
 






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Apologize to burst the bubbles here, but my question is how the occultism and mk ultra work to control someone/something? I never understand the deepest layers of conspiracy may work, i only knew that they using celebrities to normalize sin such as using satanic symbols or exposing sex acts in video.
This will take ages too say. Check out older pages, these are enough analysis on it in detail from page 300-600 or maybe other too, you will get your answer.
 






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