Are medicines permitted by God (according the REAL bible)

[JoChris]

On the subject of "eugenics", since humans are looking at that too upside down and backwards, as they always do.

There are reportedly tens of millions of induced abortions annually. Every single piece of man-made legislation allowing "legal" abortion is actually legalizing murder, which is a capital crime under God's Law.

https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/abortion.10755/

The medical and pharmaceutical industries are also responsible for the deaths of tens of millions annually. The following link provides an admission of this fact, although it tries to cover it up as medical errors and overdoses.

Our prescription drugs kill us in large numbers - PubMed

Our prescription drugs are the third leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer in the United States and Europe. Around half of those who die have taken their drugs correctly; the other half die because of errors, such as too high a dose or use of a drug despite contraindications. Our...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

So because the medical system supports the murder of unborn children, it is OK for Anthony John Hill to support euthanasia via medical negligence?!!! That is a shocking case of whataboutery.

Vaccines, e.g. the Gardasil vaccine, are known to sterilize and/or cripple their victims, on top of murdering thousands and thousands of young women.

Euthanizing our elderly population through isolation in nursing homes and pharmacy is likewise a development of modern society, resulting in the suffering and premature deaths of millions.

1. Whataboutery again. Medicines often have side-effects, especially when more than one is used at the same time. Sometimes they are serious ones, it doesn't mean medical negligence is justified via withholding potentially life-saving medicines.
2. People with serious conditions would die much earlier without drugs. FACT. Some previously fatal diseases are now chronic conditions BECAUSE of medications.
We now have so many people in nursing homes thanks to medicines. People in nursing homes are also safer because of medicines.
Some residents would seriously harm other residents and nursing staff if they didn't have sedatives etc!!!!

Wars are also "legalized" murder, and are responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands every year, with that number experiencing an exponential rise during the two previous world wars, and the planned third world war, which is now imminent.

Wars have nothing to do with the uses of drugs, unless drugs are used to save lives.

God, Who is all-powerful and created both us (the spiritual-Beings) and the human animals that we temporarily incarnate, has a perfect system for keeping each species strong and viable: natural selection. Natural selection is simply the way nature weeds out the weak and crippled, so that the strongest hereditary traits are passed on to the next generation. It has absolutely nothing to do with Darwinism, which wrongly teaches that one species can somehow "evolve" into another species.

This is why you have so much mind-numbing text, to hide the teachings that people are likely to skim through in the process.
Your conclusion shows you admit that Anthony John Hill is in favour of natural selection.

AJH is anti-pharmacology, and sounds way more like a Word of Faith preacher than a Christian. However on this topic it is mostly pro-reincarnation, karma, and fatalism doctrines. On this topic he sounds way more like a Hindu or a Theosophist.

 

[A Freeman]

To be born again John 3:3-7, 2 Corinthians 5:17 means to have faith in Jesus Christ, the one who died for us on Calvary and rose from the dead 1 Corinthians 15:1-8.
It doesn't being mean reincarnated into a new body and/or following Anthony John Hill's commandments like he falsely says.

That is a massive overgeneralisation, but yes people can idolize doctors etc way more than they deserve. People too often forget that God uses doctors to heal us and therefore give medical system/ drugs too much credit.


WRONG. There is no mention of drugs or doctors in that passage.
In fact, the verse just before shows God ADDED something to the water.
Exodus 15:25 And he cried unto the Lord; and the Lord shewed him a tree, which when he had cast into the waters, the waters were made sweet: there he made for them a statute and an ordinance, and there he proved them,


Show one verse from Deuteronomy 28 where God clearly commands the Israelites not to take drugs/ potions.


A witch used/uses sorcery, potions used to open pathways to the forbidden spiritual world. motive motive motive. What does the bible say about witches?


Look at previous chapter. 2 Chronicles 15
Asa was told to have faith in God and he disobeyed Him. Asa was warned but he chose to believe in physicians, not God. Therefore if Asa had been told it was God's will to use physicians, Asa would have been healed.

2 Chronicles 15: 1 And the Spirit of God came upon Azariah the son of Oded:
2 And he went out to meet Asa, and said unto him, Hear ye me, Asa, and all Judah and Benjamin; The Lord is with you, while ye be with him; and if ye seek him, he will be found of you; but if ye forsake him, he will forsake you.


That is an interesting claim. Can you please give a link to a scientific/ historical website [i.e. not a JAHtruth-friendly website] that supports you?

Acts 8:9 But there was a certain man, called Simon, which beforetime in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one:
10 To whom they all gave heed, from the least to the greatest, saying, This man is the great power of God.

Again, the word is SORCERY. Look at WHY Simon was using sorcery - it was not for medical treatment!!!!

The other bible verses you quote all use the word SORCERY and have no surrounding words or sentences to suggest it God was condemning medicines for illnesses.

There is nothing to suggest God is referring to disease/ illness.
See search results, limited to New Testament: "Kingdom of God"

[Jesus said to the woman at the well]
John 4:24 [KJV] God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Anthony John Hill will have a lot to answer for on Judgement Day, adding words to the bible to support his heresies.

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Enough for this entry. The rest of your entry is AJH's over-generalised claims.

You don't know what you're talking about, which is why you contradict Scripture with everything you falsely claim from a human, egotistical point of view (to try to make yourself feel better about placing your trust in doctors and pharmacy/witchcraft/sorcery.

This is what it means to be born again, according to God:-

1 John 3:8-10
3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the Beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for His seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever DOETH NOT righteousness is NOT of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

Sin = breaking The Law of God (1 John 3:4). Anyone who isn't keeping The Law/Commandments of God doesn't know Christ nor love Him.

1 John 2:3-4
2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him (Christ), IF we keep His Commandments.
2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth NOT His Commandments, is a LIAR, and the truth is NOT in him.

John 14:15 If ye love me, KEEP my COMMANDments.

If you don't know that you are a spiritual Being incarnated inside of the human body you see in the mirror, how could you possibly be born again as your true spiritual self? That which is flesh is flesh (human) and that which is spirit is spirit (a spiritual-Being - John 3:6) and it is with our spiritual-Being that we worship God/do HIS Will (John 4:23-24). The flesh (human) can NEVER serve God (Rom. 8:5-8).

God has prohibited ALL pharmacy/witchcraft/sorcery (mə-ḵaš-šê-p̄āh in Hebrew, and pharmakeia in Greek) because it is UNNATURAL and therefore HARMFUL/POISONOUS to the human body.

https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/covid-19-western-medicine-pharmacy-witchcraft-in-scripture.8223/

You have offered nothing but your personal opinion about what the word "sorcery" (witchcraft/pharmacy) means, while pretending as if it isn't a direct reference to the use of witches' brew/potions/pharmacy (pharmakeia ). You even have the audacity offer the following totally irrational/satanic explanation, as if our CHANGELESS God EVER changes His Mind (Mal. 3:6).

Asa was told to have faith in God and he disobeyed Him. Asa was warned but he chose to believe in physicians, not God. Therefore if Asa had been told it was God's will to use physicians, Asa would have been healed.

How ridiculous! God is NOT the author of confusion (1 Cor. 14:33), as you portray Him to be.

God's warning against using physicians/doctors and their pharmacy/witchcraft/sorcery applies today the same as it applied during the time of Asa. So your hypothetical "if" could NEVER have happened, nor is there ANY change today in discerning God's Will concerning the use of physicians/doctors and their pharmacy/witchcraft/sorcery (pharmakeia). Those who place their trust in and do such things shall NOT inherit the Kingdom of God (Gal. 5:19-21).

Further, and with regard to your question about ancient Egypt:-

From: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(08)61749-3/fulltext -

The prescriptions in the medical papyri are presented in sufficient detail to make them reproducible today. Current research confirms that from at least 1820 BCE, the Egyptians prepared and delivered drugs, and from 1550 BCE precise measurements were introduced for prescribing each drug. Indeed, 50% of the drug sources used by the ancient Egyptians remain in use today, although many are now synthetised.

Deuteronomy 7:11-18
7:11 Thou shalt therefore KEEP the Commandments, and the Statutes, and the Judgments, which I command thee this day, to DO them.
7:12 Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these Judgments, and keep, and do them, that the "I AM" thy God shall keep unto thee The Covenant and the mercy which He sware unto thy fathers:
7:13 And He will love thee, and bless thee, and multiply thee: He will also bless the fruit of thy womb, and the fruit of thy land, thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep, in the land which He sware unto thy fathers to give thee.
7:14 Thou shalt be blessed above all people: there shall not be male or female barren among you, or among your cattle.
7:15 And the "I AM" will take away from thee all sickness, and will put none of the evil diseases of Egypt, which thou knowest, upon thee; but will lay them upon all [them] that hate thee.
7:16 And thou shalt consume all the people which the "I AM" thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: neither shalt thou serve their gods; for that [will be] a snare unto thee.
7:17 If thou shalt say in thine heart, These nations [are] more than I; how can I dispossess them?
7:18 Thou shalt not be afraid of them: [but] shalt well remember what the "I AM" thy God did unto Pharaoh, and unto all Egypt (and pharaoh ruled the whole known world at that time);

Anyone who mistakenly believes that God wants us to poison ourselves, just as the ancient Egyptians did by placing their trust in pharmacy/witchcraft/sorcery instead of in God and His Law, is so far into Satan's grip that there is no hope.

Exodus 22:18 Thou shalt NOT suffer a witch (sorcerer/pharmacist) to live.

Learn to LIVE at ONE with Nature and with Nature's God.

 

[A Freeman]

So because the medical system supports the murder of unborn children, it is OK for Anthony John Hill to support euthanasia via medical negligence?!!! That is a shocking case of whataboutery.
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1. Whataboutery again. Medicines often have side-effects, especially when more than one is used at the same time. Sometimes they are serious ones, it doesn't mean medical negligence is justified via withholding potentially life-saving medicines.
2. People with serious conditions would die much earlier without drugs. FACT. Some previously fatal diseases are now chronic conditions BECAUSE of medications.
We now have so many people in nursing homes thanks to medicines. People in nursing homes are also safer because of medicines.
Some residents would seriously harm other residents and nursing staff if they didn't have sedatives etc!!!!

Wars have nothing to do with the uses of drugs, unless drugs are used to save lives.


This is why you have so much mind-numbing text, to hide the teachings that people are likely to skim through in the process.
Your conclusion shows you admit that Anthony John Hill is in favour of natural selection.

AJH is anti-pharmacology, and sounds way more like a Word of Faith preacher than a Christian. However on this topic it is mostly pro-reincarnation, karma, and fatalism doctrines. On this topic he sounds way more like a Hindu or a Theosophist.

Taking or administering POISONS will ALWAYS have deleterious effects. You have been mind-numbed (programmed) into calling these ill-effects (including death) "side effects", even though they DIRECTLY affect those foolish enough to take such poisons.

Did you take the jab @JoChris (thereby placing your trust in the medical establishment instead of in God)? Did you encourage your friends, family and children to do so? Are your own actions not YOUR responsibility?

A simple yes or no will suffice to answer these questions.

 

[A Freeman]

From: https://spacedoutscientist.com/2017/03/10/the-history-of-pharmacy-and-medication/ -

Pharmacy is derived from the Greek word pharmakeia, meaning “use of drugs, medicines, potions, or spells; poisoning, witchcraft; remedy, cure.”

1500 BC: The Ancient Egyptians are notorious for their advanced chemical and pharmacological knowledge. The Ebers Papyrus is one of the oldest preserved medical documents. It has over 700 plant species and drugs used for therapy.

From: https://www.pharmaguideline.com/2021/07/history-of-pharmacy.html -

According to ancient Egyptians, the word pharmacy is derived from ph-ar-maki, which means the provider of safety and security. However, according to the greeks, the word pharmacy was taken from the word pharmakon which means drug and poison. The expert in the field of pharmacy is the pharmacist earlier referred to as the shamans, priests, healers, chemists and druggists.

From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_medicine -

The medicine of the ancient Egyptians is some of the oldest documented. From the beginnings of the civilization in the late fourth millennium BC until the Persian invasion of 525 BC, Egyptian medical practice went largely unchanged and included simple non-invasive surgery, setting of bones, dentistry, and an extensive set of pharmacopoeia. Egyptian medical thought influenced later traditions, including the Greeks.

Modern Antibiotics in Ancient Egyptian Civilization? | Lacy Lab

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Ancient Egyptian medicine - Wikipedia

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Deuteronomy 28:15, 27, 60 (please read the entire chapter carefully, to understand why people get sick and that the actual cure to all disease is to return to keeping The Law)

28:15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the "I AM" thy God, to observe to do all His Commandments and His Statutes which I command thee this day; that ALL THESE CURSES [of the Law] shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:

28:27 The "I AM" will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the hemorrhoids, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed.

28:60 Moreover He will bring upon thee all the diseases of Egypt, which thou wast afraid of; and they shall cleave unto thee.

 

[A Freeman]

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[JoChris]

Taking or administering POISONS will ALWAYS have deleterious effects. You have been mind-numbed (programmed) into calling these ill-effects (including death) "side effects", even though they DIRECTLY affect those foolish enough to take such poisons.

Did you take the jab @JoChris (thereby placing your trust in the medical establishment instead of in God)? Did you encourage your friends, family and children to do so? Are your own actions not YOUR responsibility?

A simple yes or no will suffice to answer these questions.

I will answer this one first and probably come back later, because frankly your other posts are too long as usual.
Perhaps more people would reply to you if they didn't to have to go through walls of text every time? Most people still have to work/study/ have a life off-line after all.

Yes, I had the 3 compulsory COVID shots.

I was being responsible, thinking of my own health and my family's (old family members etc). Just like I am responsible, taking daily medicines I must take that prevent my premature death/ permanent disability.

The apostle Paul told Timothy to have weakened wine for his stomach disturbances.
With your logic the apostle Paul was telling Timothy to have evil magic potions.
With your logic Paul was disobeying God or showing he doubted God's ability to heal diseases if He willed.
With your logic the apostle Paul was a sorcerer.

I have heard of Word of Faith teachers say some dangerous things RE testing God but Anthony John Hill takes it to another level.

 

[lightseeker]

The word pharmacy is derived from Old French farmacie "substance, such as a food or in the form of a medicine which has a laxative effect" from Medieval Latin pharmacia from Greek pharmakeia (Greek: φαρμακεία) "a medicine".


Just another failure of AJH trying to "translate" the Bible and the koran without know Hebrew, Aramaic, koine Greek and arabic

 

[JoChris]

The biblical born again definition versus Anthony John Hill's definition has been discussed elsewhere. I am not responding to the distraction tactics either or repetitious claims either.

God has prohibited ALL pharmacy/witchcraft/sorcery (mə-ḵaš-šê-p̄āh in Hebrew, and pharmakeia in Greek) because it is UNNATURAL and therefore HARMFUL/POISONOUS to the human body.

Where does God prohibit the use of drugs for MEDICAL purposes?

How should a Christian view prescription drugs - Got questions
It is therefore a matter of conscience.

Romans 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.

Herbs are ALSO used for medicinal purposes, not just improve cooking recipes!!!!

You have offered nothing but your personal opinion about what the word "sorcery" (witchcraft/pharmacy) means, while pretending as if it isn't a direct reference to the use of witches' brew/potions/pharmacy (pharmakeia ). You even have the audacity offer the following totally irrational/satanic explanation, as if our CHANGELESS God EVER changes His Mind (Mal. 3:6).

1, Are you going to condemn Jesus now?
Healing ointments have MEDICINE in them. Jesus' spit would have miraculously changed dirt into the OINTMENT (containing the healing agent) that made the blind man see.

John 9:6 Commentaries: When He had said this, He spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and applied the clay to his eyes,

When he had thus spoken, he spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay,

2.Bible verses that contradict Anthony John Hill's opinions are not my opinion or a satanic explanation. If he doesn't have reasoning ability or reading comprehension to put 2+2 together, I can't help him.

3. You allege God never changes His mind:
Show BIBLE CHAPTER AND VERSE IN CONTEXT from the Old Testament where God forbids people to use drugs/medicines to heal diseases.

Further, and with regard to your question about ancient Egypt:-

From: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(08)61749-3/fulltext -

Thanks for that, it is interesting how smart ancient peoples were without our scientific knowledge today.

How is using what is good from non-Judeo-Christian cultures forbidden by God?
If we used your logic to the extreme, we shouldn't use wheels, fire, dams, paper, or anything invented that was not invested by the Jews/Christians.

 

[Dalit]

The word pharmacy is derived from Old French farmacie "substance, such as a food or in the form of a medicine which has a laxative effect" from Medieval Latin pharmacia from Greek pharmakeia (Greek: φαρμακεία) "a medicine".


Just another failure of AJH trying to "translate" the Bible and the koran without know Hebrew, Aramaic, koine Greek and arabic

Laxative effect?! Sounds pleasant. But then that may help. I once heard a pastor spout a bunch of nonsense yet did include that he was constipated for 11 days. That's pretty bad when that's all I took away from a supposed sermon. He was a Word of Faith kind of dude though.

 

[A Freeman]

Yes, I had the 3 compulsory COVID shots.

Then you have chosen to place your trust in "science" (knowledge falsely so-called) and the beast that created it instead of in God (Who has condemned all forms of pharmacy/witchcraft), haven't you?

I was being responsible, thinking of my own health and my family's (old family members etc). Just like I am responsible, taking daily medicines I must take that prevent my premature death/ permanent disability.

How is disobedience to God being responsible? How does that ever benefit anyone?

The apostle Paul told Timothy to have weakened wine for his stomach disturbances.

Is wine now considered pharmacy/witchcraft in your twisted mind?

With your logic the apostle Paul was telling Timothy to have evil magic potions.

What would you know about logic? You have just created yet another totally irrational strawman argument out of wine, so that you can attack it. Do pharmacists/witches make wine? Do you buy wine at the pharmacy/drugstore?

With your logic Paul was disobeying God or showing he doubted God's ability to heal diseases if He willed. With your logic the apostle Paul was a sorcerer.

As above please. Wine isn't pharmacy, is it? Do you have any common-sense whatsoever?

Faith and fear are polar opposites. All fear is the product of one's imagination (Gen. 6:5).

People can either humbly choose to place their faith in God (The Voice of Reason and the Source of ALL Wisdom and Common-sense) or they can choose to arrogantly continue placing their trust in deceitful corporate fictions, like governments, their propaganda mouthpiece (the mainstream media), organized religion and in the unnatural chemical and pharmaceutical industries, etc.

Isaiah 3:12 [As for] My people, children [are] their oppressors, and women rule over them. O My people, they which lead thee cause [thee] to err, and lead thee astray, TO THY DESTRUCTION.

Paul also said the following to Timothy, which you would do well to consider carefully:-

1 Timothy 2:11-15
2:11 Let the woman learn in SILENCE with all subjection.
2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to USURP authority over the man, but TO BE IN SILENCE.
2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

 

[A Freeman]

The word pharmacy is derived from Old French farmacie "substance, such as a food or in the form of a medicine which has a laxative effect" from Medieval Latin pharmacia from Greek pharmakeia (Greek: φαρμακεία) "a medicine".

You do realize that you are admitting that the word pharmacy is ultimately derived from Greek pharmakeia (Greek: φαρμακεία), don't you?

And how does God define the very same word [Greek pharmakeia (Greek: φαρμακεία)] in His Word?



Source: https://biblehub.com/text/galatians/5-20.htm

So pharmacy = sorcery (aka witchcraft), which is why God has CONDEMNED it, for our benefit.

Galatians 5:19-21
5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
5:20 Idolatry, PHARMACY (aka sorcery/witchcraft) pharmacy, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall NOT inherit The Kingdom of God.

Out of your own mouth you condemn yourself.

 

[lightseeker]

You do realize that you are admitting that the word pharmacy is ultimately derived from Greek pharmakeia (Greek: φαρμακεία), don't you?

And how does God define the very same word [Greek pharmakeia (Greek: φαρμακεία)] in His Word?

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Source: https://biblehub.com/text/galatians/5-20.htm

So pharmacy = sorcery (aka witchcraft), which is why God has CONDEMNED it, for our benefit.

Galatians 5:19-21
5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
5:20 Idolatry, PHARMACY (aka sorcery/witchcraft) pharmacy, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall NOT inherit The Kingdom of God.

Out of your own mouth you condemn yourself.

Modern pharmacy didn’t exist 2000 years ago. The bibles not talking about Tylenol. The moderm word pharmacy comes from 2 derivations of that original Greek word, the French farmacie. What you’re doing is called the word-concept fallacy.

 

[JoChris]

Then you have chosen to place your trust in "science" (knowledge falsely so-called) and the beast that created it instead of in God (Who has condemned all forms of pharmacy/witchcraft), haven't you?


How is disobedience to God being responsible? How does that ever benefit anyone?


Is wine now considered pharmacy/witchcraft in your twisted mind?


What would you know about logic? You have just created yet another totally irrational strawman argument out of wine, so that you can attack it. Do pharmacists/witches make wine? Do you buy wine at the pharmacy/drugstore?


As above please. Wine isn't pharmacy, is it? Do you have any common-sense whatsoever?

Faith and fear are polar opposites. All fear is the product of one's imagination (Gen. 6:5).

People can either humbly choose to place their faith in God (The Voice of Reason and the Source of ALL Wisdom and Common-sense) or they can choose to arrogantly continue placing their trust in deceitful corporate fictions, like governments, their propaganda mouthpiece (the mainstream media), organized religion and in the unnatural chemical and pharmaceutical industries, etc.

Isaiah 3:12 [As for] My people, children [are] their oppressors, and women rule over them. O My people, they which lead thee cause [thee] to err, and lead thee astray, TO THY DESTRUCTION.

Paul also said the following to Timothy, which you would do well to consider carefully:-

1 Timothy 2:11-15
2:11 Let the woman learn in SILENCE with all subjection.
2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to USURP authority over the man, but TO BE IN SILENCE.
2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

On itablet right now, so I am only addressing your last sentences:
You have been shown more than a few times those verses are for women in CHURCH. You can't have dementia, therefore it has to be deliberate.
https://www.crossway.org/articles/what-does-it-mean-that-women-should-remain-quiet-in-church-1-timothy-2

I will be blunt here: it is because some men react like you are right now - because of who I am, not what I typed-
I rarely reveal I am a woman online: I haven't lied, but I never volunteered the information either like some women do. Weak men just can't handle being proved wrong/ feeling like they are losing face to others.

For your sake, please stop that lame tactic because it sure doesn't impress anyone who is not a JAHtruther!

 

[A Freeman]

Modern pharmacy didn’t exist 2000 years ago. The bibles not talking about Tylenol. The moderm word pharmacy comes from 2 derivations of that original Greek word, the French farmacie. What you’re doing is called the word-concept fallacy.

You can keep telling yourself those lies as often as you please, but it won't make any of it true. The Greek word pharmakeia preceded the French word derived from it, which you've already admitted.

Pharmacy/witchcraft/sorcery has been around for thousands of years, culminating in what is now referred to as "modern medicine". And yes, God has been warning us about pharmacy/witchcraft/sorcery throughout the Bible for thousands of years, beginning with the Exodus from Egypt, the birthplace of pharmacy/witchcraft/sorcery.

Tylenol, like all pharmacy/witchcraft/sorcery, is a POISON.

Do a web search for paracetamol or acetamenophen poisoning (generic terms for Tylenol), bearing in mind that most are controlled by big pharma, which admit Tylenol is toxic, but falsely claim that it's only toxic in dose amounts over the "recommended" (by the manufacturer) limits.

From:
https://academic.oup.com/bjaed/article/14/4/153/293533?login=false -

Toxicity may occur even within the recommended dose range in certain patient groups because of altered metabolism.

Got Snakes? Kill 'em with Tylenol.

Drug-filled Mice Airdropped Over Guam to Kill Snakes

Dead mice filled with a generic version of Tylenol are being airdropped to kill the invasive brown tree snake, U.S. officials say.

www.nationalgeographic.com

Are you also a Covid-19 jab recipient/advocate? Is that why you're here promoting pharmacy/witchcraft/sorcery?

 

[A Freeman]

On itablet right now, so I am only addressing your last sentences:
You have been shown more than a few times those verses are for women in CHURCH.
https://www.crossway.org/articles/what-does-it-mean-that-women-should-remain-quiet-in-church-1-timothy-2

The Hebrew title "Satan" means "the Opposer" (God's adversary) in English. It should therefore be self-evident that anyone who states the opposite of what God tells us in His Word is working for Satan, wittingly or otherwise.

Thus it's irrelevant what you or any similar unbeliever satanically "show" anyone when it very obviously contradicts what it says in Scripture. The Scriptures plainly state that women should learn in silence, with all subjection. You (and/or those you quote) claim the exact opposite.

You have chosen, of your own free-will, to poison both your body and your mind, which is why you wrongly view the truth which you refuse to accept as a "tactic". If you must hear this out of the mouth of another woman, then please consider the following video, which @TrustNo1 recently posted in the end-times thread:

 

[JoChris]

The Hebrew title "Satan" means "the Opposer" (God's adversary) in English. It should therefore be self-evident that anyone who states the opposite of what God tells us in His Word is working for Satan, wittingly or otherwise.

Thus it's irrelevant what you or any similar unbeliever satanically "show" anyone when it very obviously contradicts what it says in Scripture. The Scriptures plainly state that women should learn in silence, with all subjection. You (and/or those you quote) claim the exact opposite.

You have chosen, of your own free-will, to poison both your body and your mind, which is why you wrongly view the truth which you refuse to accept as a "tactic". If you must hear this out of the mouth of another woman, then please consider the following video, which @TrustNo1 recently posted in the end-times thread:

If you need to keep on misquoting the bible verse about women keeping silent in church, go ahead then.
It is pretty sad to see men needing to resort to that tactic though.
We know the drill.
"You/ y'all contradict our LEADER/S, therefore you're/ you all are servants of Satan".
The Bible contradicts Anthony John Hill clearly on many issues, and this is one of them.
SORCERY does not mean PHARMACEUTICAL DRUGS.
Sorcery is the use of chemicals as a TOOL of witches to contact the forbidden spiritual world.

It doesn't matter how much propaganda you cut-and-paste.
AJH is completely wrong RE forbidding all drugs and he will be held responsible for any of you falling sick/ dying because you didn't seek medical assistance in time.

 

[A Freeman]

Excerpts below from: https://www.minds.com/hosfell/blog/what-is-the-ecclesia-is-it-a-church-is-it-a-cult-is-it-impor-1006236617422348288 -

What is The Ecclesia?

"Ecclesia" is an entirely different word with an entirely different meaning than "kuriakos" ("church"). Eventually, through the manipulation of organized religion, "church" came to replace "ecclesia" by popular acceptance. Indeed, churches have achieved their goal-- to neutralize Christians!

Churches are proving grounds for religious tricksters, con artists and politicians. Churches facilitate greed and superstition. They prey upon the gullible. CHURCH IS THE GREAT AMERICAN IDOL, AND CHURCHGOERS ARE IDOLATERS.

The Greek "ecclesia" was "a civil body politic." This is strong proof that the Christian "ecclesia" we read about in the New Testament was an INDEPENDENT CIVIL BODY OF CHRISTIANS -- independent from rulers and man's government. Their objective was to be free to serve King Jesus. This phenomenon had nothing to do with building and attending churches! Churches are NOT ecclesias.

“...the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent are taking it by force.” Matthew 11:12



CHURCH - The term "church ," as we know it, did not exist as such before 300AD. Emperor Constantine of Rome declared "church" to be the state-authorized vehicle of worship for Christians ... thus taking control of religion by incorporating it into the state in an attempt to undermine the Christian ecclesia. The “church" was thus invented, and continues the same to this day ... a fact that is carefully ignored by churchgoers.

 

[A Freeman]

Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman He said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire [shall be subject] to thy husband, and HE SHALL RULE OVER THEE.

1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the man; and the head of Christ [is] God.

1 Corinthians 11:7-9
11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover [his] head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
11:8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
11:9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

1 Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the communities: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith The Law.
14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a disgrace for women to speak in the community.

Ephesians 5:22-29
5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the community: and he is the saviour of the body.
5:24 Therefore as the community is subject unto Christ, so [let] the wives [be] to their own husbands in every thing.
5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the community, and gave himself for it;
5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of [Living] water by the Word,
5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious community, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
5:28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
5:29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the community:

1 Timothy 2:11-15
2:11 Let the woman learn in SILENCE with all subjection.
2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to USURP authority over the man, but TO BE IN SILENCE.
2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Titus 2:4-5
2:4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their [husband's] children,
2:5 [To be] discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.

1 Peter 3:1-6
3:1 Likewise, ye wives, [be] in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the Word, they also may without the Word be won by the conversation of the wives;
3:2 While they behold your chaste conversation [coupled] with fear.
3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward [adorning] of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
3:4 But [let it be] the hidden Man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, [even the ornament] of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
3:5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:
3:6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.


Isaiah 3:12 [As for] My people, children [are] their oppressors, and women rule over them. O My people, they which lead thee cause [thee] to err, and lead thee astray, TO THY DESTRUCTION.

 

[A Freeman]

Excerpt below from: https://biblehub.com/greek/5331.htm -

◄ 5331. pharmakeia ►

Strong's Concordance pharmakeia: the use of medicine, drugs or spells Original Word: φαρμακεία, ας, ἡ Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine Transliteration: pharmakeia Phonetic Spelling: (far-mak-i'-ah) Definition: the use of medicine, drugs or spells Usage: magic, sorcery, enchantment. HELPS Word-studies 5331 pharmakeía (from pharmakeuō, "administer drugs") – properly, drug-related sorcery, like the practice of magical-arts, etc. (A. T. Robertson). NAS Exhaustive Concordance Word Origin from pharmakeuó (to administer drugs) Definition the use of medicine, drugs or spells NASB Translation sorceries (1), sorcery (2). Thayer's Greek Lexicon STRONGS NT 5331: φαρμακεία φαρμακεία (WH κια, so T (except in Galatians 5:20; cf. the Proleg., p. 88); see Iota), φαρμακείας, ἡ (φαρμακεύω); a. the use or the administering of drugs (Xenophon, mem. 4, 2, 17). b. poisoning (Plato, Polybius, others): Revelation 9:21 (here WH text Tr marginal reading φαρμακῶν; many interpretations refer the passage to the next entry). c. sorcery, magical arts, often found in connection with idolatry and fostered by it: Galatians 5:20 (where see Lightfoot) (Wis. 12:4 Wis. 18:13; for כְּשָׁפִים, Isaiah 47:9; for לָטִים, Exodus 7:22; Exodus 8:18; for לְהָטִים, Exodus 7:11); tropically, of the deceptions and seductions of idolatry, Revelation 18:23. STRONGS NT 5331: φάρμακον [φάρμακον, φαρμάκου, τό, from Homer down, a drug; an enchantment: Tr marginal reading WH text in Revelation 9:21 (R. V. sorceries), for φαρμακεία, which see (in b.).] Strong's Exhaustive Concordance sorcery, witchcraft. From pharmakeus; medication ("pharmacy"), i.e. (by extension) magic (literally or figuratively) -- sorcery, witchcraft. see GREEK pharmakeus Forms and Transliterations φαρμακεία φαρμακείᾳ φαρμακείαις φαρμακειων φαρμακια φαρμακία φαρμακίᾳ pharmakeia pharmakeía pharmakeíāi Links Interlinear Greek • Interlinear Hebrew • Strong's Numbers • Englishman's Greek Concordance • Englishman's Hebrew Concordance • Parallel Texts Englishman's Concordance Galatians 5:20 N-NFS GRK: εἰδωλολατρία φαρμακεία ἔχθραι ἔρις NAS: idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, KJV: Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, INT:idolatry sorcery enmities strife Revelation 18:23 N-DFS GRK: ἐν τῇ φαρμακείᾳ σου ἐπλανήθησαν NAS: were deceived by your sorcery. KJV: by thy sorceries were all INT: by the sorcery of you were misled pharmakeia = pharmacy = witchcraft = sorcery = a form of idolatry (placing doctors, etc. above God, our Healer)

 

[A Freeman]

Revelation 13:15-18, 14:8-12
13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of its name.
13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of man (created 6th. day); and its number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six (man, man, man).

14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and its image, and receive [its] mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the Wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of His indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and its image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of its name.
14:12 Here is the patience of the holy ones: here [are] they that KEEP the Commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

When someone gives in to fear (a product of our imagination - Gen. 6:5), they are choosing to believe in and trust in the beast (and their own false worldly knowledge) rather than believing and trusting God and His True Wisdom. Fear and Faith are polar opposites, just as Satan (the Opposer/Liar/Devil - evil) is the polar opposite of God (Who is Good - Matt. 19:17). And when someone's mind (forehead) is taken over by fear/evil, everything they say and do (with their hands) bears the mark of the beast.

This fear has physically manifested itself in many ways during these end-times, including over two-thirds of the global population giving into it and accepting the mark of the beast in the form of the Covid-19 jab and booster stabs. It is physical evidence of a total lack of faith in God.

Those who have done so will, of course, be in a state of denial about it, and attack this simple and irrefutable truth. But that doesn't change the validity of what has been shared. For any interested in the truth about CovID-19, Western Medicine/Pharmacy/Witchcraft in Scripture, which is currently being used as part of the planned depopulation program/programme, please visit the following link:

https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/covid-19-western-medicine-pharmacy-witchcraft-in-scripture.8223/