End-Time Patriotism & The Image of the Beast: Build Back Biblical.....Project 2025 & Jan 6th Planners both want that

[George Clinton]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1812948398062117074

Nope

 

[Karlysymon]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1810784750497345781

 

[Karlysymon]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1810403124760424932

 

[Karlysymon]

you see this madness Karly?

if the Church of Rome steps in in the south west after your collapse I will support them

You do realize that the Vatican has a seat at the globalist table, right? That is if they aren't the highest echelon of power. The Vatican supports all these NWO agendas for a reason...the vaccines, et al. At some point, pre-1900s, the Church was the largest land holder in South America and iam willing to guess they can't wait to dispossess the laity (you'll own nothing and be happy). I would also guess that the Vatican bank is up to the same shenanigans as Blackrock ( see comment from the Vatican bank person to a Finnish project manager)

So, the Church of Rome that you are looking to support after my demise will have no qualms about dispossessing you or throwing you on a torture rack unless you "get in line"....especially when the "alien" agenda is rolled out because you can be damn sure they'll have a hand in that too!

We need a revival, true. A genuine revival led by the Holy Spirit that will lead to conviction of sin, repentance, confession, earnest prayer, meekness etc that will bring in true reformation.

In fact a true biblical revival must be followed by a thorough reformation. In the Bible when Israel experienced a revival and reformation under King Josiah, the law of God was read and applied (2 Kings 23), and all the idolatry and pagan practices were removed from the nation. Any true revival today will be followed by the removal of every man-made tradition and blasphemous doctrine.

But where there is true revival and reformation, Satan has a counterfeit. While true revival uplifts God and His Word and brings deep heart searching and humility, false revivals are based on feelings. "There is an emotional excitement, a mingling of the true with the false, that is well adapted to mislead.” GC, p.464

I personally don't believe that a national revival is possible at the very end of the age, any more than it would have been possible a year before the Flood or in the months leading up to the destruction of Sodom & Gomorrah...and we are in the time of the end.

Interestingly enough, the catholic integralists named their online outlet The Josias, after King Josiah and the reforms he pushed through after finding the Book of the Law in the temple. So the Catholics want a doctrined-inspired revival the same way that the Protestants want one. I guess that now, it's just a question of whose revival gains traction.

I saw this a week ago and it reminded me of last year's Asbury revival. I haven't yet found the time to look into the organizers of "Unite Us" but intend to do so.

 

[Karlysymon]

Against Christian Nationalism: A Catholic Response to Stephen Wolfe

“They call themselves Christian Nationalists if they’re Evangelicals. Integralists or Postliberals if they’re Catholic.” So says one commentator. But the truth is quite otherwise. While the idea of…

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Integralism, on the other hand, is not only a rejection of the liberal notion of the separation of Church and State, but is also a positive vision of what God has ordained, that the State ought to be united to the Church in harmonious concord (cf. Arcanum Divinae, 36). And while the State has its own proper competence and autonomy, wherever the obligations of the Church and State coincide, the State ought to govern according to the laws of the Church. This is typically expressed by the analogy that the State is ordered toward the Church as the body toward the soul (Immortale Dei, 14).

One might come to the conclusion that Christian Nationalism is just an Evangelical Protestant version of the same ideas. From the perspective of political liberalism these movements are basically indistinguishable, since they all threaten the bedrock principle of liberalism: the primacy of individual autonomy, especially in matters of religion.

Stephen Wolfe, for instance, writes in The Case for Christian Nationalism, “If civil government ought to direct its people to true religion, then it ought to direct them to the Christian religion, for that is the true religion” (p. 185). This is almost a verbatim repetition of the Catholic position as articulated by Pope Leo XIII: “Since the profession of one religion is necessary in the State, that religion must be professed which alone is true” (Libertas, 21).

Wolfe’s work is, in many ways, laudable and offers a helpful critique of liberalism in this Protestant majority nation. Though my objections are many and great, it should not obscure the value of what he has accomplished. In The Case for Christian Nationalism he offers an excellent defense of cultural Christianity, not unlike what has been offered by Ahmari, Pappin, and Pecknold. He is also quite correct to talk about the courage that must be cultivated to effectively bring the Church into the public square. Christian Nationalists and integralists may be united in our opposition to certain common opponents, but we cannot overlook the fundamental differences that divide us.

The Prince and The Pope
Once we look at the positive proposals of each approach, we see they are not just slightly different. They are totally opposed. Yes, both reject the liberal ordering of Church and State, but they have mutually exclusive understandings of their proper ordering. And this difference, not surprisingly, stems from incompatible views of the Church as such.

In short, while Catholic integralism understands the State as hierarchically subordinated to the Church, Christian Nationalism proposes the opposite, namely, a Church that is subject to the authority of the State, though the Christian Nationalists might not articulate it quite so starkly. But let’s consider the arguments that Stephen Wolfe puts forward.

His strident anti-Catholicism prevents him from being able to accept a highly institutionalized vision of the Church, or even of a truly global Christian community. He says, for example, “The instituted church, to be clear, is not a supranational society or institution, as we see in the Roman church.” Rather, he claims, it subsists essentially in “local assemblies” that may grow to “national churches,” but to conceive of it as a “global organization” is not permitted (p. 303).

 

[George Clinton]

You do realize that the Vatican has a seat at the globalist table, right? That is if they aren't the highest echelon of power. The Vatican supports all these NWO agendas for a reason...the vaccines, et al. At some point, pre-1900s, the Church was the largest land holder in South America and iam willing to guess they can't wait to dispossess the laity (you'll own nothing and be happy). I would also guess that the Vatican bank is up to the same shenanigans as Blackrock ( see comment from the Vatican bank person to a Finnish project manager)

So, the Church of Rome that you are looking to support after my demise will have no qualms about dispossessing you or throwing you on a torture rack unless you "get in line"....especially when the "alien" agenda is rolled out because you can be damn sure they'll have a hand in that too!

I personally don't believe that a national revival is possible at the very end of the age, any more than it would have been possible a year before the Flood or in the months leading up to the destruction of Sodom & Gomorrah...and we are in the time of the end.

Interestingly enough, the catholic integralists named their online outlet The Josias, after King Josiah and the reforms he pushed through after finding the Book of the Law in the temple.

I saw this a week ago and it reminded me of last year's Asbury revival. I haven't yet found the time to look into the organizers of "Unite Us" but intend to do so.

They are best of bad options, perhaps, if/when the white nationalist evangelical scum do their takeover.

 

[phipps]

I personally don't believe that a national revival is possible at the very end of the age, any more than it would have been possible a year before the Flood or in the months leading up to the destruction of Sodom & Gomorrah...and we are in the time of the end.

Interestingly enough, the catholic integralists named their online outlet The Josias, after King Josiah and the reforms he pushed through after finding the Book of the Law in the temple.

I saw this a week ago and it reminded me of last year's Asbury revival. I haven't yet found the time to look into the organizers of "Unite Us" but intend to do so.

There will be a revival but I don't know how it will happen. I think it will be world wide too. It could take years, it could be happening right now. But there are people who are and will find out about the truth of God, about Jesus and His saving grace shortly before probation closes and Jesus returns the second time. Of course Satan will always counter any true revival. His revivals will always have the majority of people who think/will think they are of God and the Holy Spirit.

Having watched the short video of unite us, it does remind me of the the Asbury revival although like you I should find out more about it. I have posted about speaking in tongues, emotional worship, music in worship, experiential religion in my thread on Paganism and Protestantism. I saw all the things happening in videos of the Asbury revival last year which confirmed for me that it was a false revival.

There were also no changes to a single doctrine or teaching. They all continued to hold contradictory views to the Bible. This is not how the Holy Spirit works.

God has revealed to us how to tell the difference between genuine and counterfeit revivals plus, "To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them" (Isaiah 8:20).

Its not surprising what the Catholic integralists named their online outlet. As usual it will not be based on the truth of God but on their interpretation of it which sadly is always mostly wrong.