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You keep repeating the same lies over and over, as taught in the satanic hadith, which neither God nor Muhammad ever gave anyone the permission to write, much less blasphemously make a partner with God's Word.

The hadith is an obviously satanic, self-contradictory text that routinely contradicts the Koran/Quran, the latter of which "Muslims" claim to believe.

God's Will ("Islam" in Arabic) is that ALL volumes of the hadith be pulped and turned into copies of the Koran/Quran, so that they can finally do some good, by being of use to true believers, rather than a tool Lucifer/Satan/Iblis can continue using to drag as many as possible with him into The Fire.

Anyone who questions the life, teachings, crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus, who was incarnated ("strengthened") by the immortal Messiah/Christ/Mahdi (the Holy Spirit) is hopelessly lost and will NEVER learn to do God's Will.

All TRUE Believers MUST read, digest and put into practice ALL THREE PARTS OF GOD'S BOOK TO MANKIND, including the Old Covenant/Testament, New Covenant/Testament and the Koran/Quran.

And the best and only way to do that, is to read the prophesied "little book" (Rev. 10:6-10), aka the "white stone" (Rev. 2:17), referred to in the Quran as "the mother of the book" (Sura 13:39; Sura 43:4), available as a free gift to the world at:


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...All TRUE Believers MUST read, digest and put into practice ALL THREE PARTS OF GOD'S BOOK TO MANKIND, including the Old Covenant/Testament, New Covenant/Testament and the Koran/Quran.
Who exactly told us to read the Koran? There's no such instruction anywhere in the Bible.. :p
 

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About Christ's Second Coming, when He will explain "the mystery of God" to all true believers:

Matthew 24:27-31
24:27 For as the LIGHTENING cometh out of the East, and shineth even unto the West; so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be.
24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the "sun" be darkened, and the "moon" shall not give her light, and the "stars" shall fall from heaven, and the "powers of the heavens" shall be shaken:
24:30 And then shall appear the Sign ("Star") of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall ALL the tribes of the Earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of Man coming in the "Clouds" of heaven with power and great glory.
24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet (7th.), and they shall gather together his Elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.


Sura 43:57-63
43:57. When (Jesus) the son of Mary is held up as an example, behold, thy people raise a clamour thereat (in ridicule)!
43:58. And they say, "Are our gods best, or he?" This they set forth to thee, only by way of disputation: yea, they are a contentious people.
43:59. He was no more than a servant ("I came not to do mine own will, but the Will of Him that sent me" - John 6:38): We granted Our favour (Christ) to him (Sura 4:171), and We made him the Example to the Children of Israel (John 14:6).
43:60. And if it were Our Will, We could make angels from amongst you, succeeding each other on the Earth.
43:61. And (Christ the Messiah/Mahdi) shall be a Sign (for the coming of) The Hour (of Judgment): therefore have no doubt about The (Hour), but follow ye Me: this is The Straight Way (Matt. 7:13-14).
43:62. Let not the Evil One hinder you: for he is to you an enemy avowed.
43:63. When Jesus came with Clear Signs, he said: "Now have I come to you with Wisdom, and in order to make clear to you some of the (points) on which ye dispute: therefore fear "I AM" and obey me.

Only a complete fool would mistakenly believe that God isn't going to send His Christ again BEFORE Judgment Day, with clear signs to settle all disputes and to reveal to this world the mystery of the One True God (Allah, Whose Name is "I AM").
 

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Who exactly told us to read the Koran? There's no such instruction anywhere in the Bible.. :p
The name "Koran" (Quran) means "the invitation", which is exactly what the Koran is, and exactly as Christ promised.

Matthew 22:1-14
22:1 And Jesus answered and spoke unto them again by parables, and said,
22:2 The Kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain King, which made a Marriage for His Son,
22:3 And sent forth His servants to call them that were bidden to the Wedding: and they would not come.
22:4 Again, He sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and [my] fatlings [are] killed, and all things [are] ready: come unto the Marriage.
22:5 But they made light of [it], and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
22:6 And the remnant took His servants, and entreated [them] spitefully, and slew [them].
22:7 But when the King heard [thereof], He was wroth: and He sent forth His armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.
22:8 Then saith He to His servants, The Wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
22:9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the Marriage.
22:10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the Wedding was furnished with guests.
22:11 And when the King came in to see the guests, He saw there a man which had not on a Wedding Garment:
22:12 And He saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in here not having a Wedding Garment? And he was speechless.
22:13 Then said the King to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast [him] into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
22:14 For many are called, but FEW [are] chosen.
 

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Muhammad ibn (son of) Abdullah ibn (son of) Abdul Mutalib, was born on 12 Rabi 'Awwal in the year 570 C.E. (Christian Era) in Makkah, (today: Saudi Arabia) and he died in 633 C.E. in Yathrib (today: Madinah, Saudi Arabia)





In Arabic the word prophet (nabi) is derived from the word naba which means news. Thus we deduce that a prophet spreads the news of God and His message, they are in a sense God’s ambassadors on earth. Their mission is to convey the message to worship One God. This includes, calling the people to God, explaining the message, bringing glad tidings or warnings and directing the affairs of the nation. All the prophets were anxious to convey God’s message sincerely and completely and this included the last prophet, Muhammad. During his final sermon Prophet Muhammad asked the congregation three times whether he had delivered the message, and called on God to witness their answer, which was a resounding “yes!”.

As well as the essence of their call to One God, another accepted sign of the truth of the prophets is how they live their lives. The accounts of Prophet Muhammad’s life that we have inherited from our righteous predecessors illustrate that Muhammad’s Prophethood was guided by God from the very beginning. Long before, Prophethood Muhammad was being prepared to guide humankind to the straight path and his life experiences stood him in good stead for such a weighty mission. Then at the age of 40 when Prophethood was bestowed upon him, God continued to support and affirm his mission. Any account of Muhammad’s life is filled with examples of his exemplary character; he was merciful, compassionate, truthful, brave, and generous, while striving solely for the rewards of the Hereafter. The way Prophet Muhammad dealt with his companions, acquaintances, enemies, animals and even inanimate objects left no doubt that he was ever mindful of God.

Muhammad’s birth was accompanied by many so called miraculous events and the talk of the extraordinary events no doubt functioned as signs of Prophethood,

Special but not unique circumstances surrounded childhood of Prophet Muhammad and these undoubtedly had a bearing on his character. By the time he was eight years old he had suffered through the death of both his parents and his beloved grandfather Abdul Muttalib. He was left in the care of his uncle and great supporter Abu Talib. Thus even as a young boy he had already suffered great emotional and physical upheaval. Both the many chroniclers of Muhammad’s life and the Quran acknowledge his disrupted life.

Did He not find you (O Muhammad) an orphan and gave you a refuge? (Quran 93:6)

Muhammad’s uncle Abu Talib was poor and struggled to keep his family fed, thus during his adolescence Muhammad worked as a shepherd. From this occupation he learned to embrace solitude and developed characteristics such as patience, cautiousness, care, leadership and an ability to sense danger. Shepherding was an occupation that all the prophets of God we know of had in common. ‘…The companions asked, “Were you a shepherd?” He replied, “There was no prophet who was not a shepherd.”’

In his teens Muhammad sometimes travelled with Abu Talib, accompanying caravans to trade centres. On at least one occasion, he is said to have travelled as far north as Syria. Older merchants recognized his character and nicknamed him Al-Amin, the one you can trust. Even in his youth he was known as truthful and trustworthy. One story that is accepted by most Islamic scholars and historians is the account of one of Prophet Muhammad’s trips to Syria.

The story goes that the monk Bahira foretold the coming Prophethood and counselled Abu Talib to “guard his nephew carefully”. According to biographer Ibn Ishaq, as the caravan in which Prophet Muhammad was travelling approached the edge of town, Bahira could see a cloud that appeared to be shading and following a young man. When the caravan halted under the shadow of some trees, Bahira “looked at the cloud when it over-shadowed the tree, and its branches were bending and drooping over the apostle of God until he was in the shadow beneath it.” After Bahira witnessed this he observed Muhammad closely and asked him many questions concerning a number of Christian prophecies he had read and heard about.

The young Muhammad was distinguished among his people for his modesty, virtuous behaviour and graceful manners, thus it was no surprise for his companions to see him, even as a youth many years before Prophethood, shun superstitious practices and keep away from drinking alcohol, eating meat slaughtered on stone altars or attending idolatrous festivals. By the time he reached adulthood Muhammad was thought of as the most reliable and trustworthy member of the Meccan community. Even those who concerned themselves with petty tribal squabbles acknowledged Muhammad’s honesty and integrity.

Muhammad’s virtues and good moral character was established from a young age, and God continued to support and guide him. When he was 40 years old Muhammad was given the means to change the world, the means to benefit the whole of humanity





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Today is the 15th day of September, 2024 A.D.

A.D. means "in the year of our Lord" and is a direct reference to Christ (Ps. 110:1; 1 Cor. 11:3).

The era that took place before Christ came in the body of Jesus is referred to as "B.C."

B.C. means "before Christ".

So the entire world literally changed the way it keeps time based upon the coming of Christ in the body of Jesus.

In fact, THE BIRTH OF JESUS -- which fulfilled HUNDREDS of prophecies in the Old Covenant/Testament -- IS THE ONLY VIRGIN BIRTH IN HUMAN HISTORY, A FACT THAT IS CONFIRMED BY THE KORAN/QURAN.

Matthew 1:20-25
1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the "I AM" appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.
1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
1:22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the "I AM" by the prophet, saying,
1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
1:24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:
1:25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS ("Saviour" in Hebrew).

Sura 19:16-21
19:16. Relate in the Book (the story of) Mary, when she withdrew from her family (in Britain) to a place in the East (Israel).
19:17. She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent her Our angel, and he appeared before her as a man in all respects.
19:18. She said: "I seek refuge from thee to ("I AM") Most Gracious: (come not near) if thou dost fear "I AM"."
19:19. He said: "Nay, I am only a messenger from thy Lord, (to announce) to thee the gift of an Holy son."
19:20. She said: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?"
19:21. He said: "So (it will be): Thy Lord saith, 'That is easy for Me: and (We wish) to appoint him as a Sign unto men and a Mercy from Us': it is a matter (so) decreed (in Prophecy)."

There is no other virgin birth announced by the angels found anywhere in the Quran. So we can say with absolute certainty that there was no virgin birth NOR any announcement by the angels (or anyone else) of the birth of an Arab man named "Muhammad" prophesied in the Bible, nor found anywhere in the Quran. That is why God COMMANDS everyone in the Bible and the Quran to FOLLOW Christ, the Saviour and THE Example Christ set while here in the body of Jesus.

Sura 3:55. Behold! GOD SAID: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee SUPERIOR to those who reject faith, to The Day of Resurrection: then shall ye all return unto Me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.

Why did GOD arrange for Jesus to be the ONLY virgin birth in the history of mankind? TO FOCUS THE ATTENTION ON HIM, SO THAT PEOPLE WOULD LISTEN TO HIM AND TAKE NOTICE OF HIS BEAUTIFUL EXAMPLE OF JOYFUL SUBMISSION TO THE WILL OF GOD.

It's the same reason that we changed the way we keep time on this planet BECAUSE of the coming of Christ (the Son of God) in the body of Jesus (the human son born of the virgin Mary).

And what did God's Christ (The One Chosen by God to be His Word/Messenger) say to the world through the mouth of Jesus?

From: King of kings' Bible -

John 8:3 (John 8:11 KJV) Then spoke Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the Light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the Light of Life.

and

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am The Way, the Truth, and the Life: NOT one man cometh unto the Father, EXCEPT by me.

Until "Muslims" get rid of all of their pagan, hadith-driven religious superstitions and traditions, and start doing exactly what it actually says in the Quran, they will continue in darkness and confusion, until they too join Lucifer/Satan/Iblis in The Fire on the Last Day.

John 3:19-21
3:19 And this is the condemnation, that Light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than Light, because their deeds were evil.
3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the Light, neither cometh to the Light, lest his deeds should be revealed.
3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the Light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
 

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Well who was it up on the cross, the Last of the Mohicans?
My humble opinion points to Judas, thence paying for his treason here itself before his last breath, hopefully leaving no room for him to be further punished in the existential plane known as the world of the deceased...

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Who exactly told us to read the Koran? There's no such instruction anywhere in the Bible.. :p
Everybody should always be reading and also always be seeking and searching for the truth, especially if one is not on a straight and true path.

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In fact, THE BIRTH OF JESUS -- which fulfilled HUNDREDS of prophecies in the Old Covenant/Testament -- IS THE ONLY VIRGIN BIRTH IN HUMAN HISTORY, A FACT THAT IS CONFIRMED BY THE KORAN/QURAN.
"Virgin birth" means "birthed through a female virgin and without the intervention of a male".

What would you say of a human being birthed, and in this context, "Created/Fashioned" by God Himself without Him Having Made use of neither male nor female?

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@akay , It's sad to see the trolls have now taken to attacking your threads.

This place never used to be like this. Now the lowest of people frequent it.

They will not be happy until they crap all over everything. This is how empty their own lives are. Bottom dwellers desperate to pull everyone else down to their level.

I suggest you put them on ignore. What is the value of a barking dog to begin with?

May the Almighty grant you goodness in this life and the next. Ma salaama.
 

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My humble opinion points to Judas, thence paying for his treason here itself before his last breath, hopefully leaving no room for him to be further punished in the existential plane known as the world of the deceased...

According to God and His Word, Judas hung himself after collecting 30 pieces in silver for betraying Jesus, exactly as prophesied.

Zechariah 11:10-13 (prophecy written down over 500 years before the birth, life, death and resurrection of Jesus)
11:10 And I took My staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break My Covenant which I had made with all the people.
11:11 And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon Me knew that it was The Word (John 1:1, 14) of the "I AM".
11:12 And I said unto them, If it be good in your eyes, give Me My price; and if not, refrain. So they weighed for My price thirty pieces of silver (Matthew 27:3-7).
11:13 And the "I AM" said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was priced at by them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in The House of the "I AM".

Matthew 27:1-10
27:1 When the morning was come, all the chief priests and elders of the people took counsel against Jesus to put him to death:
27:2 And when they had bound him, they led [him] away, and delivered him to Pontius Pilate the Governor.
27:3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
27:4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What [is that] to us? see thou [to that].
27:5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in The Temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself (Zechariah 11:10-13).
27:6 And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said, It is not lawful for to put them into the Treasury, because it is the price of blood.
27:7 And they took counsel, and bought with them the Potter's Field, to bury strangers in.
27:8 Wherefore that field was called, The Field of Blood, unto this day.
27:9 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Zechariah the Prophet, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value;
27:10 And gave them for the Potter's Field, as the Lord appointed me.

How can so many ignore such clear signs from God, choosing instead to believe in obvious lies?
 

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"Virgin birth" means "birthed through a female virgin and without the intervention of a male".

What would you say of a human being birthed, and in this context, "Created/Fashioned" by God Himself without Him Having Made use of neither male nor female?

Sura 3:59. The similitude of Jesus (the human) before God is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be": and he was.

Sura 3:59 is pointing out the truth that most "Muslims" seem to be hell-bent on ignoring:

Both Adam and Jesus were mortal HUMANS. And that is where the similarity ends.

Adam (the human) was formed from dust of the ground, before God placed a Living Soul (spiritual-Being/Jinn) inside of him.

Genesis 2:7 And the "I AM" God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became alive and was given a soul [spirit Being] (human+being).

Jesus was formed in the womb of the VIRGIN Mary, before God placed His Christ* inside of Jesus (John 1:14) to "strengthen" Jesus.

*The TITLE "Messiah" (Hebrew) and "Christ" (English) both mean exactly the same thing: The One whom God anointed.

Sura 2:87. We gave Moses The Book (The Torah) and followed him up with a succession of Apostles; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the Holy Spirit (Christ - John 14:15-18). Is it that whenever there comes to you an Apostle with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride?- Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay!

Sura 2:253. Those Apostles We endowed with gifts, some above others: to one of them God spoke; others He raised to degrees (of honour); to Jesus the son of Mary We gave clear (Signs), and re-inforced him with the Holy Spirit (the Spirit of Christ - John 16:7-15). If God had so willed, succeeding generations would not have fought among each other, after clear (Signs) had come to them, but they (chose) to wrangle, some believing and others rejecting. If God had so willed, they would not have fought each other; but God fulfilleth His Plan.

Sura 5:113. Then will "I AM" say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Recount My favour to thee and to thy mother. Behold! I strengthened thee with the holy spirit (Christ - John 14:15-18), so that thou didst speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. Behold! I taught thee The Book (The Torah and Prophets) and Wisdom, The Law (The Torah) and The Gospel and behold! Thou makest out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, thou breathest into it, and it becometh a bird by My leave, and thou healest those born blind, and the lepers, by My leave. And behold! Thou bringest forth the dead by My leave. And behold! I did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to) thee when thou didst show them the Clear Signs, and the Unbelievers among them said: 'This is nothing but sorcery.'

Where does it say this about anyone else? And further, did Adam do God's Will? Obviously not when he was listening to Eve and disobeying God's COMMANDS.

Genesis 3:17 And unto Adam He said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I COMMANDED thee, saying, Thou shalt NOT eat of it: cursed [is] the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat [of] it all the days of thy life (Eno. 96:12-13);

Did Jesus do God's Will, up to and including being wrongfully accused and crucified, so that God could raise him from the dead unto life AGAIN? Of course. Exactly as Christ told us through the mouth of Jesus.

John 6:38 For I (Christ) came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the Will of Him that sent me.
 

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Sura 3:59. The similitude of Jesus (the human) before God is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be": and he was.

Sura 3:59 is pointing out the truth that most "Muslims" seem to be hell-bent on ignoring:

Both Adam and Jesus were mortal HUMANS. And that is where the similarity ends.

Adam (the human) was formed from dust of the ground, before God placed a Living Soul (spiritual-Being/Jinn) inside of him.

Genesis 2:7 And the "I AM" God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became alive and was given a soul [spirit Being] (human+being).

Jesus was formed in the womb of the VIRGIN Mary, before God placed His Christ* inside of Jesus (John 1:14) to "strengthen" Jesus.

*The TITLE "Messiah" (Hebrew) and "Christ" (English) both mean exactly the same thing: The One whom God anointed.

Sura 2:87. We gave Moses The Book (The Torah) and followed him up with a succession of Apostles; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the Holy Spirit (Christ - John 14:15-18). Is it that whenever there comes to you an Apostle with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride?- Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay!

Sura 2:253. Those Apostles We endowed with gifts, some above others: to one of them God spoke; others He raised to degrees (of honour); to Jesus the son of Mary We gave clear (Signs), and re-inforced him with the Holy Spirit (the Spirit of Christ - John 16:7-15). If God had so willed, succeeding generations would not have fought among each other, after clear (Signs) had come to them, but they (chose) to wrangle, some believing and others rejecting. If God had so willed, they would not have fought each other; but God fulfilleth His Plan.

Sura 5:113. Then will "I AM" say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Recount My favour to thee and to thy mother. Behold! I strengthened thee with the holy spirit (Christ - John 14:15-18), so that thou didst speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. Behold! I taught thee The Book (The Torah and Prophets) and Wisdom, The Law (The Torah) and The Gospel and behold! Thou makest out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, thou breathest into it, and it becometh a bird by My leave, and thou healest those born blind, and the lepers, by My leave. And behold! Thou bringest forth the dead by My leave. And behold! I did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to) thee when thou didst show them the Clear Signs, and the Unbelievers among them said: 'This is nothing but sorcery.'

Where does it say this about anyone else? And further, did Adam do God's Will? Obviously not when he was listening to Eve and disobeying God's COMMANDS.

Genesis 3:17 And unto Adam He said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I COMMANDED thee, saying, Thou shalt NOT eat of it: cursed [is] the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat [of] it all the days of thy life (Eno. 96:12-13);

Did Jesus do God's Will, up to and including being wrongfully accused and crucified, so that God could raise him from the dead unto life AGAIN? Of course. Exactly as Christ told us through the mouth of Jesus.

John 6:38 For I (Christ) came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the Will of Him that sent me.
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And stop saying "son of God"!
 
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As regards the saying of Allah in resembling ‘Eesa with Aadam: {Indeed, the example of ‘Eesa to Allah is like that of Aadam. He created Him from dust; then He said to him, "Be," and he was.} [Quran 3:59]; what is meant by the resemblance here is that He created him without a father, as Aadam was created without a father or mother.

Al-Qurtubi may Allaah have mercy upon him said, “The resemblance is that ‘Eesa was created without a father like Aadam, and not that ‘Eesa was created from dust. Indeed, something may be likened to something else even though there is a big difference between them if they have one same characteristic; Aadam was created from dust while ‘Eesa was not created from dust, so they are different in this regard, but Allah likened them because He created both of them without a father.”



Adam is a miracle of his creation, the greatest without a father or a mother, and yet he did not claim divinity.


As I said, Jesus, the son of Mary, is a prophet of God, created by God as a divine miracle through the power of the Father alone

When God (the Father) ordered Gabriel, peace be upon him, to blow on Mary’s dress, she became pregnant, God willing. (The Father)

The Holy Spirit (Gabriel) does not have the power alone to do anything because he is not a god, he is an angel

Mary was never married to the Father, the Holy Spirit, or any human being


Christ is never equal to the Father

The Holy Spirit is not equal to the Father

The miracles of Christ were granted by God (the Father) to Christ

Christ cannot perform these miracles alone without the Father’s permission

Christ says

By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.◄ John 5:30 ►


The text is clear, Christ cannot do anything on his own, why?? Because he is waiting for an order from the father who sent him


Jesus was only a prophet of God

The Holy Spirit is the angel who transmits revelation to the prophets

God (the Father) only


Do not believe the myths of the Church and oppose the true statements of Christ in which he restricted divinity to the Father alone

3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. John 17:3




resurrection of Jesus is irrelevant because Jesus did not even die.

Was Jesus (pbuh) really Crucified? by Dr Zakir Naik


Was Jesus killed or resurrected? - Dr. Zakir Naik


A dangerous prophecy that no one talks about from the Bible proves that Christ was not crucified and raised to heaven

 

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According to ISLAM, Prophet Jesus PBUH is one of the mightiest messengers of ALLAH SWT. He is the messiah (Christ), he is the word of ALLAH SWT. He was born miraculously. He gave life to death. ALLAH SWT loved him and he didn’t leave him alone helpless to be in such a miserable condition. He lift him up and saved him from the shameful punishment of crucifixion. ALLAH SWT mentions in Quran that they killed him not nor they crucified him but it was made appear to them and surely they killed him not.

Bible itself is the proof of Prophet Jesus PBUH not being crucified. When he went to the upper room he said to his disciples why are you scared. He ate fish and honey comb and his disciples touched him that he wasn’t a ghost or spoke but a living human.



When Jesus came to his disciples (who thought he was dead and had returned as a ghost) he gave them the due greetings of ‘Shalom’ and begins calming them and says the following to prove that he is not ghost but a normal human being.

Bible Luke 24:39-40

Behold my hands and my feet,

That it is I myself,

Handle me and see,

For a Spirit has no flesh and bones, as you see me have.

And he showed them his hands and his feet.

The disciples were overjoyed and wondered what could have happened. They had thought that he was dead but here was their master, in flesh and bones. To assure them further Jesus asks:

Bible Luke 24: 41-43

Have you here any meat,

And they gave him a piece of broiled fish and of a honeycomb,

And he took it, and did eat before them.

The Bible proves the point made in the Quran that Jesus was alive and never killed as thought by the Jews and Jesus’s disciples.


Another proof from the bible as a gift to my friends. Jews asked him for a miracle and Prophet Jesus PBUH responded no sign shall be given to you except the sign of Jonah, as Jonah was in the belly of fish for three days and three nights so shall be the son of man in the belly of earth three days and three nights.



Every Christian knows that this prophecy wasn’t fulfilled and Prophet Jesus PBUH never died. He is still alive and he will descend as a sign of the hour and he will break the cross and kill the swine.


There are two very different biblical answers and another answer attributed to the second-century Church Father Papias. It seems that no one really knew what happened to Judas, —

In Matthew chapter 27, Judas was repentant of what he had done, so took the money back and threw it to the priests in the temple, then went away and hanged himself. They took the money and bought a field.
In Acts 1:18, Judas, apparently pleased with his good fortune, bought himself a plot of land with the money, but fell down and his bowels burst out.

Attempts have been made to harmonise the two biblical accounts by, for example, saying Judas hanged himself and that the body fell down, causing his bowels to burst out. This could be plausible until we take into account that the manner of Judas’ death was not the only difference between the two accounts, as each inconsistency adds to the improbability that either author actually knew anything about Judas Iscariot.




Furthermore, there were sects among the Christians themselves who believed that the Messiah was not crucified, and that the one who was crucified was a look-alike, as is proven in the Christian sources themselves.

St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori said:

One of the innovations of the first century was that of Florian, according to which Christ was a non-holy force and was able to take whatever shape or form he wanted. Hence when the Jews wanted to crucify him, he exchanged forms with Simon the Cyrene, thus Simon was crucified whilst Jesus was mocking the Jews.

John Fenton, a commentator on the Gospel of Matthew, said:

One of the second-century Gnostic sects said that Simon the Cyrene was crucified instead of Jesus.

Seuss said in his book, ‘Aqeedat al-Muslimeen fi Masaa’il an-Nasraaniyyah [What the Muslims believe about some Christian issues]: The Basilidian sect denied the crucifixion. They were one of the first-century sects.

So how can it be said, after this, that everyone in the world was certain that the Messiah was crucified?
 

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Jesus said "I am the Son of God", but muslims say 'No he wasn't".
So who shall we believe?..;)
 

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Jesus said "I am the Son of God", but muslims say 'No he wasn't".
So who shall we believe?..;)
Son of God, son of David, or son of Man? Jesus is identified as “son of David” fourteen times in the New Testament, starting with the very first verse (Matthew 1:1). The Gospel of Luke documents forty-one generations between Jesus and David, while Matthew lists twenty-six. Jesus, a distant descendant, can only wear the “son of David” title metaphorically. But how then should we understand the title, “son of God?”

The “Trilemma,” a common proposal of Christian missionaries, states that “Jesus was either a lunatic, a liar, or the Son of God, as he claimed to be.” For the sake of argument, let’s agree that Jesus was neither a lunatic nor a liar. Let’s also agree he was precisely what he claimed to be. But what, exactly, was that? Jesus called himself “Son of Man” frequently, consistently, perhaps even emphatically, but where did he call himself “Son of God?”

Let’s back up. What does “Son of God” mean in the first place? No legitimate Christian sect suggests that God took a wife and had a child, and most certainly none conceive that God fathered a child through a human mother outside of marriage. Furthermore, to suggest that God physically mated with an element of His creation is so far beyond the limits of religious tolerance as to plummet down the sheer cliff of blasphemy, chasing the mythology of the Greeks.

With no rational explanation available within the tenets of Christian doctrine, the only avenue for closure is to claim yet one more doctrinal mystery. Here is where the Muslim recalls the question posed in the Quran:

“…How can He have a son when He has no consort?...” (Quran 6:101)

…while others shout, “But God can do anything!” The Islamic position, however, is that God doesn’t do inappropriate things, only Godly things. In the Islamic viewpoint, God’s character is integral with His being and consistent with His majesty.

So again, what does “Son of God” mean? And if Jesus Christ has exclusive rights to the term, why does the Bible record, “...for I (God) am a father to Israel, and Ephraim (i.e. Israel) is my firstborn” (Jeremiah 31:9) and, “...Israel is My son, even my firstborn” (Exodus 4:22)? Taken in the context of Romans 8:14, which reads, “For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God,” many scholars conclude that “Son of God” is metaphorical and, as with christos, doesn’t imply exclusivity. After all, The Oxford Dictionary of the Jewish Religion confirms that in Jewish idiom “Son of God” is clearly metaphorical. To quote, “Son of God, term occasionally found in Jewish literature, biblical and post-biblical, but nowhere implying physical descent from the Godhead.”Hasting’s Bible Dictionary comments:

In Semitic usage “sonship” is a conception somewhat loosely employed to denote moral rather than physical or metaphysical relationship. Thus “sons of Belial” (Jg 19:22 etc.) are wicked men, not descendants of Belial; and in the NT the “children of the bridechamber” are wedding guests. So a “son of God” is a man, or even a people, who reflect the character of God. There is little evidence that the title was used in Jewish circles of the Messiah, and a sonship which implied more than a moral relationship would be contrary to Jewish monotheism.

And in any case, the list of candidates for “son of God” begins with Adam, as per Luke 3:38: “...Adam, which was the son of God.”

Those who rebut by quoting Matthew 3:17 (“And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, ‘This is My beloved son, in whom I am well pleased’”) have overlooked the point that the Bible describes many people, Israel and Adam included, as “sons of God.” Both II Samuel 7:13-14 and I Chronicles 22:10 read, “He (Solomon) shall build a house for My name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. I will be his Father, and he shall be My son.”

Entire nations are referred to as sons, or children of God. Examples include:

Genesis 6:2, “That the sons of God saw the daughters of men…”

Genesis 6:4, “There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men…”

Deuteronomy 14:1, “Ye are the children of the Lord your God.”

Job 1:6, “Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD…”

Job 2:1, “Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD…”

Job 38:7, “When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?”

Philippians 2:15, “that you may become blameless and harmless, children of God without fault in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation…”

1 John 3:1-2, “Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! … Beloved, now we are children of God…”

In Matthew 5:9 Jesus says, “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.” Later in Matthew 5:45, Jesus prescribed to his followers the attainment of noble attributes, “that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.” Not exclusively his Father, but their Father


Why Jesus is not Son of God? - Dr. Zakir Naik - Questioner accepts Islam


أقوى 8 أسباب تنفي كون المسيح ابن الله | د. لورنس براون

 

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And stop saying "son of God"!
No.

The Messiah/Christ IS God's Eldest/Firstborn Son, known in heaven as Prince Michael; the First-Created Son of God, EXACTLY as God said.

Jesus WAS the HUMAN son of the virgin body of Mary, descended from king David.

God CREATES (He says "be", and it is). ALL of the angels, aka "the SONS of God" were created by God, beginning with Prince Michael (Christ).

God does NOT procreate, i.e. God does NOT have a consort/queen, nor does God have any human sons.

When will so-called Muslims learn to read and believe ALL of God's Word instead of believing the satanically fabricated hadith and their spiritually blind imams, all of whom work for Satan?
 
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The simple question that no "Jew", "Christian" nor "Muslim" has ever been able to answer correctly:
(proving they ALL are spiritually sound asleep)

Matthew 22:41-46 (The Gospel of Jesus as recorded by Matthew)
22:41 While the politicians were gathered together, Jesus asked them,
22:42 Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, [The Son] of David.
22:43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,
22:44 The "I AM" said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?
22:45 If David then call him Lord, how is He his son?
22:46 And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any [man] from that day forth ask him any more [questions].
 
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