A Freeman
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Did Jesus actually make that claim though? Or is that merely more blatant reading into Scripture something that it doesn't actually claim?What about then,when Jesus says himself that "I AM"?
Does he get sent to hell for blasphemy?
The single verse you are referencing (John 8:58 KJV) is Christ telling us that He exists (present tense) and had met Abraham in a previous incarnation as Melchizedek, the King of Salem (Peace) which, interpreted means "King of Righteousness". Christ certainly didn't say I am the "I AM", as God did (Exod 3:14). And both in context and considering the hundreds of verses where Christ made it crystal clear He is subservient to His Father and God, it is again quite obvious that Christ-Jesus in no way was claiming to be God.
John 8:49-58 KJV
8:49 Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me.
8:50 And I seek NOT mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth.
8:51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see "Death".
8:52 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.
8:53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?
8:54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of Whom ye say, that He is your God:
8:55 Yet ye have not known Him; but I know Him: and if I should say, I know Him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know Him, and keep His saying.
8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw [it], and was glad (Gen. 14:18-20).
8:57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet FIFTY years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was born, I am (ch. 17:5).
How could anyone be duped into believing that the correct use of the PRESENT tense is somehow a claim to be God? Does God not honour Himself? Does not all glory belong to God?
And if someone mistakenly believes that Christ's words through the mouth of Jesus are somehow a claim to be God, then was Paul likewise claiming to be God when he said the following?
1 Corinthians 15:10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and His grace which [was bestowed] upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.
Pretending that Jesus is part of some pagan "trinity" that isn't mentioned even once anywhere in all of Scripture, is idolatry, and the breaking of the First and Most important COMMANDment, as Christ teaches.
Mark 12:29-31
12:29 And Jesus answered him, The First of all the Commandments [is], Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is ONE Lord (NOT some 3=1 deity; see: Deut. 6:4; Zech 14:9):
12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength and serve Him ONLY: this [is] the first COMMANDment.
12:31 And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other COMMANDment greater than these.
12:32 And the scribe (lawyer) said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is ONE God; and there is none other but He:
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