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The military is another form of control. The elites use it to keep lower classes in fear and to kill people for resources. We're in the time of resource wars. Historians and scientists warned that if we didn't change our ways, countries would fight for water, food, farmland and oil. Forced conscription shouldn't exist. If men have to serve, both genders should go. A lot of countries do that.
Infact, military is the main key player in controlling all key policies and regime change, almost acting like a mafia. In my country, we call them "aliens" who control everything behind the scenes or there is a running joke, whoever criticises them , they are going to abduct the person in a black Vigo.
 

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Jk and infact all maknae line and jhope are super into these gay acts BUT I think you are not active in this thread or haven't read all this thread. Do read it backwards please and see who ships whom with each other. Plus Jin was an adult , you need to see those clips too where he used to touch jk inappropriately. You really need to come out of that bubble if you think Jin is innocent. I'm in no way defending JK but you you can't deny he was a minor when some shady things happened. Apart from Suga and NJ , these all are super weird and touchy touchy. Infact I have commented same about them giving sibling energy but some people here think *eyeroll* they are bf or something infact they defended it that Jin and jk has special relationship. See I can excuse you, you have different beliefs but I don't understand religious people supporting it. It's hypocritical.
Oh I definitely have not read this whole thread! That's more reading than I'm willing to invest in, lol. I started reading and became active here in mid-2020, but I have had a couple periods of inactivity for months on end. So I've missed A LOT.

As a former fan I have zero recall of that stuff. I'm not saying it never happened. I just don't remember it. But no, Jin is not innocent. He's never been innocent. I think his friendliness with PD is the most telling of that.

YG and NJ being so not touchy has always been very interesting to me. Especially because of NJ, who is extremely wary of physical contact with other people in general (Jin also freaks out if people touch his face). YG used to be very touchy with JH and JM though. He still is cuddly with JH, to the point where he lets JH climb all over him in the weirdest and most uncomfortable looking ways (I don't understand them, honestly), but he's been no physical contact with JM for a long time.
 

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Infact, military is the main key player in controlling all key policies and regime change, almost acting like a mafia. In my country, we call them "aliens" who control everything behind the scenes or there is a running joke, whoever criticises them , they are going to abduct the person in a black Vigo.
The only thing keeping the military from controlling my country is the President is the head of the military. They also get billions of dollars in white and hidden money.
 

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You might want to watch Vee's "Slow Dancing..."
Can't finish watching it...too cringey...and cheesy...
And his slurred pronunciation of the King's language is difficult to listen to...no offense to his fans... ;)

 
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Lol, people are so innocent. They think smoking and vaping is the thing to look out for or is a scandal. With him, it's more deeper(can't go in detail due to lack of evidence but alluding to his alleged use of hard drugs). When they outrightly in the open drink on their shows infact celebrate it, they excuse it by saying its their culture, real life "Dionysus". There are more casualties caused by drunk drivers on average that its alarming. I'm amused by their selective outrage.
 
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Lol, people are so innocent. They think smoking and vaping is the thing to look out for or is a scandal. With him, it's more deeper(can't go in detail due to lack of evidence but alluding to his alleged use of hard drugs). When they outrightly in the open drink on their shows infact celebrate it, they excuse it by saying its their culture, real life "Dionysus". There are more casualties caused by drunk drivers on average that its alarming. I'm amused by their selective outrage.
People want to be concerned about smoking, vaping, even hard drugs, but I feel like drinking is something that so few people see as an issue. And even when they do see it as an issue, they will be a lot more forgiving than that person deserves. Just as an example, my grandfather starting drinking after his wife died, and until he remarried his kids were miserable cause it was like losing two parents. Think of people like Kangin of SuJu, who I've mentioned on here before, the nonsense he's pulled while drunk driving.

A long time ago I had let it rip on social media about JM and his heavy drinking, because if you are drinking to the point that you blackout, then you have a problem. You would have thought I kicked a puppy for pointing out something negative about their precious idol.
 

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I hate stuff like this: https://www.ktown4u.com/eventsub?eve_no=6808971&biz_no=220

There's no guarantee that the money buys the album, and no guarantee the album will be donated. Also, youth centers and schools in need? Talk about a desperate attempt at indoctrination. Also, fans who mass buy kpop albums will often "donate" hundreds of them to orphanages, and the people who run said orphanages have repeatedly complained and told people to stop it but they don't listen. When people are in need, a kpop album is not going to help them in any way. This lazy charity has gotta stop.
 

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I hate stuff like this: https://www.ktown4u.com/eventsub?eve_no=6808971&biz_no=220

There's no guarantee that the money buys the album, and no guarantee the album will be donated. Also, youth centers and schools in need? Talk about a desperate attempt at indoctrination. Also, fans who mass buy kpop albums will often "donate" hundreds of them to orphanages, and the people who run said orphanages have repeatedly complained and told people to stop it but they don't listen. When people are in need, a kpop album is not going to help them in any way. This lazy charity has gotta stop.
A brazen act of sales manipulation... These people are shameless...with zero integrity...

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A brazen act of sales manipulation... These people are shameless...with zero integrity...

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What I hate most about sales manipulation is that now any "success" D-Day has from this day forward, is suspicious and not reflective of real, naturally occurring success. The success where people buy something simply because they like it and the artist, not to make the artist look a certain way or look better than other people. It's like fans are trying to say "We have the power to make you into whatever we want you to be", and honestly, they're not wrong.
 

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What I hate most about sales manipulation is that now any "success" D-Day has from this day forward, is suspicious and not reflective of real, naturally occurring success. The success where people buy something simply because they like it and the artist, not to make the artist look a certain way or look better than other people. It's like fans are trying to say "We have the power to make you into whatever we want you to be", and honestly, they're not wrong.
Absolutely deceptive...this has been rampant in KPop industry...especially with Bugshit/H*ve...
 

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Absolutely deceptive...this has been rampant in KPop industry...especially with Bugshit/H*ve...
Somebody tried to tell me on another site that B!gH!t supposedly uses the site this "charity" is being hosted on, and if that is the case, it's even worse. I've never seen BTS or BH use that site or mention it. It's always weverse where they do stuff, or kakao sometimes.
 

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Lol, people are so innocent. They think smoking and vaping is the thing to look out for or is a scandal. With him, it's more deeper(can't go in detail due to lack of evidence but alluding to his alleged use of hard drugs). When they outrightly in the open drink on their shows infact celebrate it, they excuse it by saying its their culture, real life "Dionysus". There are more casualties caused by drunk drivers on average that its alarming. I'm amused by their selective outrage.
I wudnt be surprised by that tbh.

He just looks like someone who doesn’t take care of himself at all. Even with the whole ad his did showing his abs and all that photoshop he still looked rough. I remember one time on tw@t this fan went to their sound check things n was describing each member n she was like jaykay shook her hand and it felt so dry and rough. Idk why that comment stuck with me until now.

Even his long hair, he was fighting for the male idol with the worst long hair. My goodness it was horrid. Even the short hair is better but still looks meh.

its crazy how when they started he had this squeaky clean look and then all the tattoos now (it’s his body he can do watever he likes but their sooo ugly. I saw better tats on fan edits, with all that money he got that) then the smoking and maybe more.

it’s like he wants his bad boy image that all these coked up Hollywood stars go through.

N I’m like u are an idol from Korea, u cud avoid all of that.

Even 7 the song, the explicit ver was so cringe. It just screamed try hard.

He probably had one of the most successful solo’s out of all the members but in my country it fell off the charts after a few weeks and no one talks abt it now.
 

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Absolutely deceptive...this has been rampant in KPop industry...especially with Bugshit/H*ve...
I wudnt put anything past greedy hype, gosh the way I regret giving that company a single penny.

Even now im still learning new things abt them, I bought the b@s world soundtrack years ago, now I can’t listen to it, it says it’s being modified, this has been getting modified for months. Checks iTunes wat they modified is this price it’s a lot more expensive now and if I want to listen to it. I have to buy it again. A99le support sucks. I don’t listen to their music anymore but it’s wild how I can purchase something and it’s gone like that. Woke me up to digital content.

Even how hype took away vl1ve, I will never get on w3v3rse, it suck’s and I actually dont see it being around in 10 yrs time. With the way hype is terminating b7z games now a days. I wouldn’t trust them with any digital content cos tomor it might be gone. But this is sadly something I’m realising abt all digital content.

but @rmys don’t care, mass buying albums for what, so rich guys can get richer. Mass streaming on streaming platforms, who benefits those streaming platforms. But what do fans get, they can call another grp a flop cos they didn’t break their record.
 

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I wudnt put anything past greedy hype, gosh the way I regret giving that company a single penny.

Even now im still learning new things abt them, I bought the b@s world soundtrack years ago, now I can’t listen to it, it says it’s being modified, this has been getting modified for months. Checks iTunes wat they modified is this price it’s a lot more expensive now and if I want to listen to it. I have to buy it again. A99le support sucks. I don’t listen to their music anymore but it’s wild how I can purchase something and it’s gone like that. Woke me up to digital content.

Even how hype took away vl1ve, I will never get on w3v3rse, it suck’s and I actually dont see it being around in 10 yrs time. With the way hype is terminating b7z games now a days. I wouldn’t trust them with any digital content cos tomor it might be gone. But this is sadly something I’m realising abt all digital content.

but @rmys don’t care, mass buying albums for what, so rich guys can get richer. Mass streaming on streaming platforms, who benefits those streaming platforms. But what do fans get, they can call another grp a flop cos they didn’t break their record.
Crazy, isn't it? The fandom needs to stop and seriously reflect on this useless idolatry...
 
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