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Yah, I don't think you have done enough research. So there was once a place called Corinth, which is in Greece, and a man name Paul. He wrote a couple letters to the Greek converts of this place.

From this letter we get the famous verse about love that is often used in weddings. It goes:

"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no account of wrongs. Love takes no pleasure in evil, but rejoices in the truth.…"(1 Corinthians 13:4-8).

So where you are getting the impression that this proves that Greek conversion was some sort of violent overthrow, you are very mistaken. Some of the earliest churches were established in Greece.

Many people in Greece voluntarily converted to Christianity. They weren't forced to convert. Christianity for many years never tried to assume positions of power. They existed as an entity building churches and teaching people to love others.

We even still have the Greek orthodox church today, which demonstrates that Greek conversion was not a fad they ever did away with even if they could have gone back to their previous beliefs many, many, many times.

In the last 2000 years, they have had countless opportunities to do this. The Roman empire has not existed in the last 1000 years to try to take this opportunity away from them. They have not done this and have continued to practice Greek orthodoxy instead because some of the earliest churches existed in Greece and their conversion was not created by the force of the Romans. The Orthodox church demonstrates that Greece is a foundational location of the Christian church. That is why it did not disappear when the Roman empire fell.

So question. Why did Greece continue to practice Christianity after the Roman empire fell over a thousand years ago?
 
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Christian monks destroys the Temple of Apollo in Anafi
Yes the Greek "conversion" was
a violent overthrow of the Greek religion.
 

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About the ISIS of Antiquity
The Christian Love:
+370 Emperor Valens orders a tremendous persecution of Gentiles throughout the Eastern Empire.
In Antioch, among many other Pagans, the ex-governor Fidustius and the priests Hilarius and Patricius are executed.
Tons of books are burnt in the squares of cities of the Eastern Empire.
All friends of Julianus are persecuted (Orebasius, Sallustius, Pegasius etc.), the philosopher Simonides is burned alive and the philosopher Maximus is decapitated.
 

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Ἕλλησι δὲ μωρίαν
(For the Greeks the teaching of the crucified Jesus is stupidity. Apostle Paul said it. Not Me.)

Α Κορ. 1,22 ἐπειδὴ καὶ Ἰουδαῖοι σημεῖον αἰτοῦσι καὶ Ἕλληνες σοφίαν ζητοῦσιν,
Α Κορ. 1,23 ἡμεῖς δὲ κηρύσσομεν Χριστὸν ἐσταυρωμένον, Ἰουδαίοις μὲν σκάνδαλον, Ἕλλησι δὲ μωρίαν,
 

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About the ISIS of Antiquity
The Christian Love:
+370 Emperor Valens orders a tremendous persecution of Gentiles throughout the Eastern Empire.
In Antioch, among many other Pagans, the ex-governor Fidustius and the priests Hilarius and Patricius are executed.
Tons of books are burnt in the squares of cities of the Eastern Empire.
All friends of Julianus are persecuted (Orebasius, Sallustius, Pegasius etc.), the philosopher Simonides is burned alive and the philosopher Maximus is decapitated.
So according to you because **self-proclaimed** Christian leaders from 4th century AD did violent deeds .... Christianity itself should be rejected, a faith formed in the 1st century AD, 3 CENTURIES earlier.
 

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Zeus turned into a bull and RAPED the beautiful Europa. He condemned Prometheus to eternal punishment (an eagle devouring his liver). The eagle was supposedly his incarnation, and that translates into cannibalism just like Cronos. He forced Pandora to shut her jar so that Hope wouldn't escape...the list goes on.
What is interesting though, especially for the elite, is the "obsession" with Europa's violation. Monuments are everywhere (yes, one will argue they are about the Mother of Europe. Well, she could be depicted without the bull/Zeus).







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Zeus = Jove which is pretty close to Jehovah which is actually just YHVH which is actually a beautiful concept. The point being that Zeus was just the Greek version of God and is in many cases just as equal a villain. I find it interesting that you mention Prometheus and his suffering bothers you, because Prometheus is the Greek Lucifer.
 

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When this thread was started, i didn't think it would acquire legs, but here we are and iam loving it! The stuff posted get my brain fired up!



"The same can be said about every religion"
Can you say the same about the Greek religion?
I stand by my statement and yes, i would say the same about Greek religion.

The delphic maxims aren't unique to greece. Its 'wisdom' that is found in every culture around the world. And/or a rip off of the Decalogue.

You put up a Mark Twain quote about bible stories of talking animals, demons, etc. Don't you think he'd say the same about the greek religion? If he derided the account of the serpent of Eden and Balaam's donkey, do you honestly think Twain would believe in a flying stallion (Pegasus) and a king of the gods who is promiscuous and turns into a white bull...?
 

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Again, i wonder what Mark Twain would have said about this...


I AM THANKFUL FOR HIS SACRIFICE
We all know a liver rejuvenates itself every 5 months but the above is certainly crazy....an eagle daily pecking away at a freshly healed liver....hmmm.
On the other hand, what does that punishment say to you, Ελληνισμός, about Zeus' character? Sadistic (among others), maybe?

@TMT
Thanks, iam aware of the 'Greek Lucifer', but because Eriunios (Ελληνισμός) derided the Christian God, i wanted to emphasise to her that Zeus doesn't have a clean slate. If the former is a villain to her, the latter's actions scream villain aswell.
 

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You are faithful Christians.
Can you read the original text of the new Testament in Greek?

What does "λόγος" mean ?
Word. In the beginning was the word? Sorry to be slow, but I have no idea what you are getting at in the context of this thread. Please elucidate? ☺
 

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Word. In the beginning was the word? Sorry to be slow, but I have no idea what you are getting at in the context of this thread. Please elucidate? ☺

Zeus Otricoli . Ancient marble bust in the Vatican in Rome

"In the beginning was the word?" Obviously it is not. This is a translation for the illiterate Christian fanatics.
"Λόγος" in Greek is the Logic of the Supreme God. Of Zeus.
 

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Christian monks destroys the Temple of Apollo in Anafi
For the fanatical Christian
the monk turns into an archaeologist and
the heavy hammers he uses in an archaeological excavation!
 
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Christian monks destroys the Temple of Apollo in Anafi
For the fanatical Christian
the monk turns into an archaeologist and
the heavy hammers he uses in an archaeological excavation!
Evidence that vandalism is being done in ENGLISH please.
 

eriunios

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Zeus = Jove (In Latin) has nothing to do with Jehovah.
But for the uneducated everithing look alike.
 
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