Comparison of JAHtruth's "The way home or face the Fire" to the bible

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THANK YOU for your honesty! That is why I gave you the LIKE.

That practice is incredibly dangerous however. That belief has been responsible for many different religions and cults and terrible decisions for so many reasons over time.

I know @A Freeman will say that questioning is unbelief though, and that is very sad.

If God is Truth, God will not be afraid to be questioned. The truth is the truth. The truth is never wrong. The truth will not fall apart after close examination. True faith grows after truth has been proven to be true.
You're welcome. Thank you.

That's how faith in Father grows as well, because if you put your trust in Him and in His protection, then He will prove it to you that He is REAL!

The Book also teaches how to distinguish between Father's voice (the Good voice), and the evil voice of the devil - the latter being responsible for deceiving and confusing people, and getting them to commit evil, dangerous and senseless acts, etc.
 
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The next 3 sentences sound like AJH's creation doctrine?

2:7 It was also planned, to create beautiful surroundings, which would have many lessons built into them, and was then constructed, with these factors in mind. Nature, both vegetal and animal, was to give clues to those who would look for them, “Seek and you will find” (John 8:32).
Out of context bible verse + when phrase is searched, the result is not in the Gospel of John.

KoK gives a different result as well. Human error - yes, but remember AJH is claiming to be Jesus reborn in a new body (reincarnated according to the rest of us).

John 8:32 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, [even] God.

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2:8 The seasons of nature were intended to teach, that Spring, with its birth, both of vegetation and animals, which was followed by Summer, the time of growth; followed by Autumn, the time of maturing and consolidation; in turn followed by Winter, the time of withering and dying (snowcoloured hair and wrinkles), was to be followed again by Spring, and re-birth. All of this was designed, to show you about human “re-incarnation”, or perpetual human “life after death”, until you either get it right; regain your divinity and go home; or run out of time, and are executed.

2:9 Animal-life would teach; male-superiority, as the provider and protector; the caring for and rearing of the young; the showing of love and affection; the code of conduct and respect for parents. Then, in old age, the roles are reversed, and the children take care of their parents; teaching humility to both; the aged because of frailty and dependence; the young because, by looking at their parents, they can see what the future holds for them. Just desserts ARMAGEDDON SURVIVAL-KIT CD available from http://JAHTruth.net/ask


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You're welcome. Thank you.

That's how faith in Father grows as well, because if you put your trust in Him and His protection, then He will prove it to you.

The Book also teaches how to distinguish between Father's voice (the Good voice), and the evil voice of the devil - the latter being responsible for deceiving and confusing people, and getting them to commit evil, dangerous and senseless acts, etc.
If the Father (whom you believe to be God) is speaking with you in your mind, then please always check what is said against the KJV and objective reality. That is the same for you too @A Freeman.
If the Father is the truth, then what he says should be always 100% right and moral and 100% supported by reality.

Even your KoK book agrees with the KJV:
2 Corinthians 11:13 For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the Apostles of Christ.
11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.


2 Corinthians 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
 

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This TWHOFTF sentence definitely should be discussed now! This is one of the disturbing verses that in some threads has already been mentioned:

2:10 Nature teaches self-perfection (to teach the soul to perfect itself), weeding-out the freaks and the weak and imperfections; only the healthy surviving; with natural-selection of the most perfect specimens, as partners, to keep the breed healthy, so that it will survive.

Does that sound like the loving God of the bible? Everyone please read the whole psalm 139

Psalm 139:14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.
15 My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.
 

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If the Father (whom you believe to be God) is speaking with you in your mind, then please always check what is said against the KJV and objective reality. That is the same for you too @A Freeman.
If the Father is the truth, then what he says should be always 100% right and moral and 100% supported by reality.

Even your KoK book agrees with the KJV:
2 Corinthians 11:13 For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the Apostles of Christ.
11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.


2 Corinthians 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Thank you. Just put your trust in Him, and then ask yourself, what would Jesus do?

Then, before doing; saying or thinking anything, you must wait and listen for, and to, the good voice, then go forwards, guided and protected, to victory.
 
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Thank you. Just put your trust in Him, and then ask yourself, what would Jesus do?

Then, before doing; saying or thinking anything, you must wait and listen for, and to, the good voice, then go forwards, guided and protected, to victory.
Romans 12:3 is the result from being born again, studying the bible, trusting God and obeying God.

Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.


Topical bible hub: sober
Why are we supposed to be sober and vigilant - Got questions?
 

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Romans 12:3 is the result from being born again, studying the bible, trusting God and obeying God.

Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.


Topical bible hub: sober
Why are we supposed to be sober and vigilant - Got questions?
And in contrast, this is the result of people becoming so spiritually passive they literally become possessed by evil spirits. They believe they are hearing from God and obeying God. Sincerity is not enough to protect you from deception. Some self-professed Christians fall for it. Even some alleged Christian teachers preach this dangerous message.
Watch how the deceived (self-professed) Christians behave compare to the other religions' believers. It is identical manifestations. They contort and react and have same facial expressions etc.

 
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2:10 Nature teaches self-perfection (to teach the soul to perfect itself), weeding-out the freaks and the weak and imperfections; only the healthy surviving; with natural-selection of the most perfect specimens, as partners, to keep the breed healthy, so that it will survive.
Weaving the false teaching of Darwinism into the religion shows real low brow thought. Although we know from other threads this verse implies forcing people to die with curable illnesses and also eugenics.
 

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Weaving the false teaching of Darwinism into the religion shows real low brow thought. Although we know from other threads this verse implies forcing people to die with curable illnesses and also eugenics.
I just thought to see what the Australian Jesus reincarnated had said about health/ healing in the past.... woahh.
Warning: the normal videos are way too long, and therefore IMO only researchers should view them.
It is funny how AJM needs to use a whiteboard and pen to communicate his message more clearly.

All health issues are to be blamed on emotions apparently. He seems to experience health issues like the rest of us and he has had to work through a lot of emotional healing so far.


Go back to the titles .... Divine truth clips

It looks like Jesus reincarnated has made up for his 33 year long celibate life, with the amount of talks on a certain issue (with his reincarnated Mary Magdalene wife alongside of course).
 
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And in contrast, this is the result of people becoming so spiritually passive they literally become possessed by evil spirits. They believe they are hearing from God and obeying God. Sincerity is not enough to protect you from deception. Some self-professed Christians fall for it. Even some alleged Christian teachers preach this dangerous message.
Watch how the deceived (self-professed) Christians behave compare to the other religions' believers. It is identical manifestations. They contort and react and have same facial expressions etc.

Yep, and people flock to them. I can show you some more of it:



2 Peter
2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2:2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom The Way of Truth shall be evil spoken of.
 

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Yep, and people flock to them. I can show you some more of it:



2 Peter
2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2:2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom The Way of Truth shall be evil spoken of.
Those preachers probably do believe they are hearing directly from God though, despite what cynics and skeptics say (assuming they knowingly lie for $$$$ only).
They might even believe in a paraphrased version of 2.5, using the name of Jesus instead of God/ Father:

2:5 Complete faith can only come from KNOWING God personally, which can only be achieved by learning to COMMUNICATE directly with Him, and by doing His Will (Hosea 6:6). God has NEVER wanted people to believe in Him, He has ALWAYS wanted you to get to KNOW Him (Jeremiah 9:24)(John 17:3).

How would you test if those preachers are really hearing from God?
 
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regain your divinity and go home; or run out of time, and are executed.
So this is another interesting line. The purpose of their religion seems to be that they will become gods of some sort. And calling heaven “home” make zero sense since God created man out of the dust of the ground. There’s so many unexamined assumptions and unjustified statements in this book it’s ridiculous.
 

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Those preachers probably do believe they are hearing directly from God though, despite what cynics and skeptics say (assuming they knowingly lie for $$$$ only).
They might even believe in a paraphrased version of 2.5, using the name of Jesus instead of God/ Father:

2:5 Complete faith can only come from KNOWING God personally, which can only be achieved by learning to COMMUNICATE directly with Him, and by doing His Will (Hosea 6:6). God has NEVER wanted people to believe in Him, He has ALWAYS wanted you to get to KNOW Him (Jeremiah 9:24)(John 17:3).

How would you test if those preachers are really hearing from God?
By you getting to know Him yourself.

Did Jesus ever behave in the way they do?? No.

Matthew 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
 

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So this is another interesting line. The purpose of their religion seems to be that they will become gods of some sort. And calling heaven “home” make zero sense since God created man out of the dust of the ground. There’s so many unexamined assumptions and unjustified statements in this book it’s ridiculous.
Yet another thing AJH "has borrowed" from another religion!
This is a good cartoon video.
 

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By you getting to know Him yourself.

Did Jesus ever behave in the way they do?? No.

Matthew 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Whole passage:

15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
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Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

False prophets/ teachers aren't always obvious by behaviour, but if you use the bible in context they will show their true colours eventually, either by their words or by their deeds.

e.g. Matthew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5
For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
 

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The next 3 sentences sound like AJH's creation doctrine?

2:7 It was also planned, to create beautiful surroundings, which would have many lessons built into them, and was then constructed, with these factors in mind. Nature, both vegetal and animal, was to give clues to those who would look for them, “Seek and you will find” (John 8:32).
Out of context bible verse + when phrase is searched, the result is not in the Gospel of John.

KoK gives a different result as well. Human error - yes, but remember AJH is claiming to be Jesus reborn in a new body (reincarnated according to the rest of us).

John 8:32 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, [even] God.

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2:8 The seasons of nature were intended to teach, that Spring, with its birth, both of vegetation and animals, which was followed by Summer, the time of growth; followed by Autumn, the time of maturing and consolidation; in turn followed by Winter, the time of withering and dying (snowcoloured hair and wrinkles), was to be followed again by Spring, and re-birth. All of this was designed, to show you about human “re-incarnation”, or perpetual human “life after death”, until you either get it right; regain your divinity and go home; or run out of time, and are executed.

2:9 Animal-life would teach; male-superiority, as the provider and protector; the caring for and rearing of the young; the showing of love and affection; the code of conduct and respect for parents. Then, in old age, the roles are reversed, and the children take care of their parents; teaching humility to both; the aged because of frailty and dependence; the young because, by looking at their parents, they can see what the future holds for them. Just desserts ARMAGEDDON SURVIVAL-KIT CD available from http://JAHTruth.net/ask


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John 8:32 in the KJV.

The King of kings' Bible does not contain the adulterous woman story (the now infamous "pericope adulterae" passage) that was added to the Bible in John chapter 8. Therefore, the verse numbers in John chapter 8 differ from Bibles which still contain the added story from the 4th century, and are as John's original Gospel would have had it. The King of kings' Bible is therefore in agreement on this issue with the consensus reached by most modern NT scholars of the present day.

The same verse is found in John 8:23, in the King of kings' Bible.
 
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Whole passage:

15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
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Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

False prophets/ teachers aren't always obvious by behaviour, but if you use the bible in context they will show their true colours eventually, either by their words or by their deeds.

e.g. Matthew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
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For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Those examples shown in the videos are very obviously false apostles.
They appear to be nothing like Christ at all. They appear more like other versions of Simon the sorcerer, from the book of Acts.
But it is true that they do deceive many, as the Bible has warned.
Therefore it is good to point them out, so that people can be warned not to be deceived by them.

Acts
8:9 But there was a certain man, called Simon (PATER), which beforetime in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one:
8:10 To whom they all gave heed, from the least to the greatest, saying, This man is the great power of God.
8:11 And to him they had regard, because that of long time he had bewitched them with sorceries.
 

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This morning's God Calling:-

May - God Calling.

Delay is Not Denial. - May 1

Read the lessons of Divine Control in Nature's laws.


Nature is but the expression of Eternal Thought in Time. Study the outward form - grasp the Eternal Thought, and if you can read the thoughts of the Father, then indeed you know Him.

Leave Me out of nothing. Love all My Ways with you. Know indeed that "All is well." Delay is but the wonderful and all-loving restraint of your Father - not reluctance, not desire to deny - but the Divine Control of a Father who can scarcely brook the delay.

Delay has to be - sometimes. Your lives are so linked up with those of others, so bound by circumstances, that to let your desire have instant fulfillment might in many cases cause another's, as earnest prayer as yours is, to go unanswered.

But think for a moment of the Love and thoughtful care that seeks to harmonize and reconcile all your desires and longings and prayers.

Delay is not denial - not even withholding. It is the opportunity for God to work out your problems and accomplish your desires in the most wonderful way possible for you.

Oh! children, trust Me. Remember that your Maker is also your Servant, quick to fulfill, quick to achieve, faithful in accomplishment. Yes. All is well.

Regarding Father, The King Ruler of the Universe and The God and Father of Prince Michael/Christ:-

Matthew 6:9-13
6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be Thy name.
6:10 Thy Kingdom come. Thy Will be done in earth, as [it is] in heaven.
6:11 Give us this day our daily bread.
6:12 And forgive us our debts and trespasses (if we truly repent), as we forgive our debtors and those who trespass against us (if they truly repent).
6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For Thine is The Kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

Father is Omnipotent, Omniscient and Omnipresent. Everything belongs to Him, including His Christ.

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and [to] my God, and your God.

Our Father is The God and Father of our Lord Christ, the Saviour.

1 Peter 1:3-5
1:3 Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Christ the Saviour, which according to His abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
1:4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
1:5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready TO BE REVEALED IN THE LAST TIME.
 

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Revelation 10:6-10
10:6 And sware by Him that liveth for ever and ever, Who created heaven, and the things that are therein, and the Earth, and the things that are therein, and the sea, and the things which are therein, THAT THERE SHOULD BE TIME NO LONGER:
10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as He hath declared to His servants the Prophets.
10:8 And the voice which I heard from heaven spoke unto me again, and said, Go [and] take THE LITTLE BOOK which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the "sea" and upon the "earth".
10:9 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, GIVE ME THE LITTLE BOOK. And he said unto me, Take [it], and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth as sweet as honey.
10:10 And I took THE LITTLE BOOK (white stone ch. 2:17) out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten (digested) it, my belly was bitter.

The Voice heard from heaven is Father.

The angel which standeth upon the "sea" and upon the "earth" is the Chief Archangel, Prince Michael, God's Anointed One, here in the body of JAH, exactly as prophesied (Mal. 4).

And THE LITTLE BOOK in the hand of the angel is The Way home or face The Fire by JAH. The title is self-explanatory.

Those who DO as the Voice from heaven has spoken will find The Way home, to heaven.

Those who refuse to do so will face The Fire (Rev. 20:12-15).
 

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