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Daniel's 70 sevens prophecy is a countdown to the Messiah and a prince who shall come... and the count begins with the word to restore and rebuild Jerusalem with the wall. Nehemiah wrote a book about it.
So the countdown begins on Nisan in king Artaxerxes 20th year.
Nisan 444 BC ---> 7x360 weeks + 62x360 weeks ---> Nisan 33 AD until the Messiah (who shall be cut off but not for Himself).
------------- Church age or age of grace etc etc ------------
June 7 1967 ---> 7x360 weeks ---> Sept 23 2015 Yom Kippur until the prince who shall come (and confirm a covenant with many).
So Daniel's 70 sevens prophecy is solved.
If i need to explain i will... Jesus Christ rode into Jerusalem on a donkey on Nisan 33 AD and was cutt off or crucified... not for Himself but for the salvation of all who believe in Him. And after that the 62 sevens or 62x360 weeks were spent. And Jerusalem and the Temple were destroyed by the Romans (the people of the prince who shall come...) So only 7 sevens or 7x360 weeks + last seven or 360 weeks left of the countdown.
Word went out to restore control over Jerusalem during the Six Day War on June 7 1967... so count from that date 7 sevens or 7x360 weeks which completed on the Day of Atonement in Sept 23 2015. Two days later the pope of Rome confirmed Agenda 21 in the United Nations. He even began his speech by saying he came in his own name.
In the middle of the last seven or 360 weeks which began on Sept 23 2015 sacrifices ceased or churches closed in early 2020 because of corona.
On the wing of abominations come destructions... we're not there yet but is it the flying roll of Zechariah 5 which looks like a nuclear missile ?
Time will tell.
he is correct. The angels of light do not posess duality, gender, free will etc. They are extentions of God's light.Also he thinks angels don't have free will and so are incapable of falling from grace.
basically...the seraphs are jinns who's fire/desire, was towards the Absolute...became higher ranking than the angels of light. That is, for the reasons explained here about this fireThe name "Seraphim" does not come from charity only, but from the excess of charity, expressed by the word ardor or fire. Hence Dionysius (Coel. Hier. vii) expounds the name "Seraphim" according to the properties of fire, containing an excess of heat. Now in fire we may consider three things.
First, the movement which is upwards and continuous. This signifies that they are borne inflexibly towards God.
Secondly, the active force which is "heat," which is not found in fire simply, but exists with a certain sharpness, as being of most penetrating action, and reaching even to the smallest things, and as it were, with superabundant fervor; whereby is signified the action of these angels, exercised powerfully upon those who are subject to them, rousing them to a like fervor, and cleansing them wholly by their heat.
Thirdly we consider in fire the quality of clarity, or brightness; which signifies that these angels have in themselves an inextinguishable light, and that they also perfectly enlighten others.
it's the month of ramadan. there were worshippers on the temple mount getting their heads caved in for no reason from the synagogue of satan.Things seem to be happening
Revelation 11 1Then I was given a measuring rod like a staff and was told, “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, and count the number of worshipers there. 2But exclude the courtyard outside the temple. Do not measure it, because it has been given over to the nations, and they will trample the holy city for 42 months. 3And I will empower my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.”islam's 1260 lunar years of rule is exactly what was written in Revelation 11 and again referenced in Revelation 12.
The flying roll has the same dimensions as a submarine launched ballistic missile. And it destroys stone and timber and leaves a residue...Zecheriah 5 is not about a nuclear missile. just another example of the utter crap you come out with. It's about the whore/adulteress/wicked woman being taken to babylon to learn usury aka 'the curse' against the theif and the one who swears falsely' ie the creditor and debtor.
Please don't post on something you don't know about. As of 2005, over 60 percent of Jews were of partial or full Mizrahi ancestry. The Mizrahi Jews were expelled from the Arab world before WW2, and spurred on by the Grand Imam of Jerusalem's admiration of Hitler. There's a population of Ethiopian Jews, and Jews from Spanish Speaking countries, China, India and many other places. A large part of the Israeli population is Druze, Samaritan and others. When you lie on an enemy, it's easier to dehumanize them.every day i still read jews mocking palestinians, saying 'you never had a border, you were not a nation'
and that there is just like how in Ezekiel 38, the true remnant are a people without borders, walls, gates...
that is fascinating stuff to me. it speaks volumes given modern israel is made up of khazarian jews of the gomer camp and hence literally gog and magog themselves.
this being the camp of cursed jews who were kicked out of the holy land. As it told us in Zechariah 13 and as Jesus had told the early christian community about in luke 21
20 “When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city. 22 For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written. 23 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people. 24 They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations.
linking this to Zechariah 13, nowhere did it ever say that these jews, who are also called the synagogue of satan, will magically become the remnant.
Rather, the true remnant never left the holy land, always remained there etc.
they just happened to become christian, then muslim..and have been absorbed into a palestinian identity.
accused of 'no land no border' by the synaguge of satan...it says it all. we are clearly seeing both sides play out.
now i cant say every palestinian is an authentic jew in blood, im saying the true remnant is amongst the palestinians. the prophecy in Revelation 11 and 12, ultimately links the 1260 days prophecy to the period of islam and 'gentiles trampling' on the holy temple, fulfilled by islam. It's in Rev 12 where we see this merging happening through 'the woman and her offspring seeking shelter in the wilderness for 1260 days'
so again it makes perfect sense that since this period ended in 1948, the SERPENT has made war against them. makes sense why they're called the synoaguge of satan.
as for the palestinians, they bear the testimony of jews, that also follow the commandments, that is, shariah. since a post jesus context means the Torah is fulfilled. You cant be a christian who follows torah like jews follow torah, the entire story of the epistles revolves around this topic.
However sharia coming via prophet Mohammad does make sense in a post-grace context. that is, just like the israelites lost Faith in egypt, the christians lost faith in rome...and hence this whole trinitarian polythiesm and a white man-god figure. So the law was necessary, via a gentile prophet who fulfilled the promise made to ismael and hagar. count full circle with the wilderness and remnant connection, meaning that islam has given life to the true remnant.
all the other shite i keep seeing, like these wild claims that 'gog and magog are muslims' is comical stuff given muslims occupied the holy land for 1260 lunear years...so how could they be gog and magog?
1) i said 'it's made up of'Please don't post on something you don't know about. As of 2005, over 60 percent of Jews were of partial or full Mizrahi ancestry. The Mizrahi Jews were expelled from the Arab world before WW2, and spurred on by the Grand Imam of Jerusalem's admiration of Hitler. There's a population of Ethiopian Jews, and Jews from Spanish Speaking countries, China, India and many other places. A large part of the Israeli population is Druze, Samaritan and others. When you lie on an enemy, it's easier to dehumanize them.
Revelation 11 1Then I was given a measuring rod like a staff and was told, “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, and count the number of worshipers there. 2But exclude the courtyard outside the temple. Do not measure it, because it has been given over to the nations, and they will trample the holy city for 42 months. 3And I will empower my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.”
Above is during the 6th trumpet of the 7th seal. So it's still in the future... and as it states it is a period consisting of 42 months/1260 days.
Needless to say It has absolutely nothing to do with 1260 lunar years of islamic rule over Jerusalem.
Below is where Jesus warned that Jerusalem would be trampled by gentiles... and here is where you guys come in and trample around the Holy city with your filthy feet.L0L
Luke 21 20But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that her desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country stay out of the city. 22For these are the days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.
23How miserable those days will be for pregnant and nursing mothers! For there will be great distress upon the land and wrath against this people. 24They will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations. And Jerusalem will be trodden down by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.
The flying roll has the same dimensions as a submarine launched ballistic missile. And it destroys stone and timber and leaves a residue...
It approaches as an ephah according to the angel that is the size of about half a barrel... not unlike this...
So Ashkenazi is an old jewish name for Germania.1) i said 'it's made up of'
made up of what? 10% 20%?
the fact is the group who created israel were the ashnazis and they remain the dominant group.
mizrahi jews are not the elite of israel, the ashkenazi are.
Rev 11 equates 42 months with 1260 days... so how you get 1260 lunar years is a personal interpretation at best.1)
the trumpets have their own timeline and there's no precise chronology here.
For example when we talk about the whore of babylon system, it is something that's already here, as is the Beast.
the precise prophecies of them pertain to their destruction or a certain period of events.
likewise the Rev 11 and Rev 12 '1260 days' prophecy, only really talks about their end...it doesnt mean 'and then there is going to be this brand new 1260 days (years) period'.
Not exactly.2) "Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. "
which is exactly what it says in Revelation 11..
Yea well that's what the Holy bible state... that Jesus didn't have a human father and that God was His Father. And that's why Jesus is known as the only begotten Son of God. Again Jesus constantly referred to God as His Father and God acknowledged Jesus as His Son.your argument that God was the literal father of Jesus because 'jesus had no wordly father' was pretty comical...
Well believe what you want.3)
lmao flying scroll dimensions
the desperation is unreal.
i know what zechariah 5 means...you don't.
Rev 11 equates 42 months with 1260 days... so how you get 1260 lunar years is a personal interpretation at best.
Not exactly.
Jesus said in Luke that jews would be scattered into all the nations while Jerusalem would be trampled by gentiles yes that's you guys... until the times of the gentiles are fulfilled. That happened on June 7 1967 when jews restored control over the Old City.
In Rev 11 the courtyard outside the temple has been handed over to the gentiles and they will trample the holy city for 42 months/1260 days. What this means time will tell...
Yea well that's what the Holy bible state... that Jesus didn't have a human father and that God was His Father. And that's why Jesus is known as the only begotten Son of God. Again Jesus constantly referred to God as His Father and God acknowledged Jesus as His Son.
I know this is not halal according to the quran... but as i see it satan is right when he denies Jesus as his Son.
Well believe what you want.
I'm only trying to help you understand.
A shabua or seven in Daniel 9 is seven years... not seven solar years nor seven lunar years but 360 weeks... which is almost seven solar years.1)
Rev 11 equates 42 months with 1260 days... so how you get 1260 lunar years is a personal interpretation at best.
just like 70 weeks become 490 lunar years.
Jesus was walking talking in the temple courts... when a group of priests scribes and elders came up to Him and asked by what authority are you doing these things ? And Jesus told them a parable about the wicked tenants... which they understood referred to them. So the Kingdom of God would be taken from them and given to a people who would produce its fruits (love compassion righteousness mercy etc etc) in other words the Kingdom of God would be given to christians (not muslims who kill lie cheat n steal).I don't imagine 2000 years post-Christ, of gentiles, inc 1260 lunar years literally...of islamic rule over jerusalem, would be something insignificant.
Need I remind you yet again of the parable of tenants. Why did Jesus say another race would become tenants and would produce the fruit?
Jesus literally didn't have a human father.Jesus himself said
"MY FATHER AND YOUR FATHER"
God has referred to Israel as 'my first born' and likewise there were many 'sons of God'. This is symbolic lingo..not to be taken literally.
it's just metaphorical/symbolic language.
I'm actually Jewish and know what I'm talking about. When the Grand Imam or other leaders issue reports or laws, those get passed around. How do you think news made it from one place to another? The Old West even had the pony express. Jews never left Israel. Even with expulsion, some of us remained. You obviously have a hate-on for Jews. Did one of them steal your wife, reject your artwork or have a bigger one than you? Grow up and stop scapegoating people. This gets people killed. I won't bother with the rest of your post because you didn't come to debate, especially not with insults like daft heifer? That's very mature.1) i said 'it's made up of'
made up of what? 10% 20%?
the fact is the group who created israel were the ashnazis and they remain the dominant group.
mizrahi jews are not the elite of israel, the ashkenazi are.
certain ashkenazi jews amassed wealth through usury..and it's the only reason why israel came into existence. it was the power and wealth of house rothschild that led to the balfour declaration.
when Jesus said 'JERUSALEM JERUSALEM YOU WHO KILL THE PROPHETS'
you think he was talking about about your ave jew living in villages?
No, he was on about a certain jewish elite who ran it, a minority.
when Yahweh was punishing israel and judea, he did it because of their king's actions, not 'the majority'.
2) haha 'spurred on by the grand imam of jerusalem'
there was no youtube or facebook back then you daft heffer. you think muslims in tunisia or india were sitting around waiting to watch the Grand Imam of Jerusalem podcast? you think the grand imam toured the islamic world making anti jewish speeches?
in my post, ididnt really talk about the exodus of jews in the muslim world, but i have spoken often about how PSEUDO-islamic revivalism and arab nationalism played a big part.
i called it pseudo islamic...the post-colonial era gave rise to nationalist/facist elements in every single part of the world across every religion. it's why the partition of india happened aswell. Those movements strayed from authentic islam in one way or another.
3) MORE IMPORTANTLY, the above doesnt change the fact that the true remnant foretold in Zechariah 12, are the camp who never left the holy land.
mizrahi jews are still not the remnant of Zechariah 13.
Furthermore i draw the gog and magog connection because of the title of this thread and obsessive argument made by Red and knobheads like amir tsarfati that the muslims are gog and magog. When in fact we see clear evidence that the ashkenazi/khazarian connection is the one purposely mocking Ezekiel 38, doing the complete opposite every chance they get.
so Ezekiel 38 speaks of a nation 'no walls/gates' (ie no borders for example). no weapons. a 'peaceful and unsuspecting' people.
we see a complete 180 on each one, which makes perfect sense when the dominant race in israel are themselves ashkenazi.
1) The 70 sevens prophecy, just like the 4 beasts, are all TEMPLE CENTRIC. Eg the 4 beasts ruled over the temple. The 10 horns of Rome for example were the 10 emperors of Rome who specifically ruled Jerusalem when the temple was there. There were many more emperors but they don't count since there was no temple.A shabua or seven in Daniel 9 is seven years... not seven solar years nor seven lunar years but 360 weeks... which is almost seven solar years.
And 70 sevens in Daniel 9 are not a continues count of 70 x 360 weeks... as the count is paused when the Messiah came to be cut off until jews again restore control over the Old City... and this long paused period of about 2000 years is by christians at least called the church age or age of grace.
Jesus was walking talking in the temple courts... when a group of priests scribes and elders came up to Him and asked by what authority are you doing these things ? And Jesus told them a parable about the wicked tenants... which they understood referred to them. So the Kingdom of God would be taken from them and given to a people who would produce its fruits (love compassion righteousness mercy etc etc) in other words the Kingdom of God would be given to christians (not muslims who kill lie cheat n steal).
I'm actually Jewish and know what I'm talking about. When the Grand Imam or other leaders issue reports or laws, those get passed around. How do you think news made it from one place to another? The Old West even had the pony express. Jews never left Israel. Even with expulsion, some of us remained. You obviously have a hate-on for Jews. Did one of them steal your wife, reject your artwork or have a bigger one than you? Grow up and stop scapegoating people. This gets people killed. I won't bother with the rest of your post because you didn't come to debate, especially not with insults like daft heifer? That's very mature.
It remains a fact that the Jewish leadership and a significant, vocal number of the ordinary people cried out “His blood be on us, and on our children.”1)
Jesus was preaching a higher message. That message is a major part of the more developed teachings within sufi islam aswell. the message of Jesus however is long dead and the cross with it...and sufism is dead too today.
Absolutely not. It's a countdown to the Messiah and a prince who shall come.1) The 70 sevens prophecy, just like the 4 beasts, are all TEMPLE CENTRIC.
It remains a fact that the Jewish leadership and a significant, vocal number of the ordinary people cried out “His blood be on us, and on our children.”
It also remains a fact that something radical happens in the hearts of the Jewish nation at the end of the Tribulation:
Zechariah 12:9-11 - King James Version
9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.
However, I don’t think it’s likely we will see eye to eye in the idea that God has yet future, prophesied dealings with actual Israel. Perhaps at this point it is enough to have set out two alternate interpretations and be in a position to see what (if anything) happens.
It is however perfectly possible to talk about Jesus (especially today) separately from the Jews. From what you have said above, do you believe that Jesus was saying something different than the NT records, and that “something different” was something that Sufi Islam once understood but has now lost? I would be interested in trying to understand how and why you hold this view?