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in Zech 12 it says
"7 “The Lord will save the dwellings of Judah first, so that the honor of the house of David and of Jerusalem’s inhabitants may not be greater than that of Judah. "

On that day the weeping in Jerusalem will be as great as the weeping of Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo. 12 The land will mourn, each clan by itself, with their wives by themselves: the clan of the house of David and their wives, the clan of the house of Nathan and their wives, 13 the clan of the house of Levi and their wives, the clan of Shimei and their wives, 14 and all the rest of the clans and their wives.

these are clear indicators Zech 12 is about the Gog and Magog prophecy of Ezekiel 38 and a very real messianic israel made up of all the 12 tribes..and not to be confused with Zech 13.
Zech 12 doesnt include a single 'jew/israelite' getting turfed out.
It will be a total victory.
Whereas Zech 13 is about punishment and cleansing..

“Awake, sword, against my shepherd,
against the man who is close to me!”
declares the Lord Almighty.
“Strike the shepherd,
and the sheep will be scattered,

and I will turn my hand against the little ones.
8 In the whole land,” declares the Lord,
“two-thirds will be struck down and perish;
yet one-third will be left in it.

9 This third I will put into the fire;
I will refine them like silver
and test them like gold.
They will call on my name
and I will answer them;
I will say, ‘They are my people,’
and they will say, ‘The Lord is our God.’”



in luke 21, Jesus was not talking about gog and magog but about rome's destruction of the jerusalem/the temple.

0 “When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city. 22 For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written. 23 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people. 24 They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.
 

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The Iranian Foreign Ministry:

The US must recognize the new situation in the region and stop intervening for the Zionist entity.

The Iranian ministry also stated that the nuclear submarine that the US sent to the region - its purpose is to cover the withdrawal of its global power.
 
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Absolutely not. It's a countdown to the Messiah and a prince who shall come.

Some bible versions assume and add temple after 3671. כָּנָף (kanaph) wing, extremity in Dan 9:27. And that's audacious adding stuff into the Scriptures just because you assume... im pretty sure the Bible includes a warning not to do that. They assumed temple because the prince who shall come is said to cease sacrifice and offering... and so they assume that it is talking about ceasing animal sacrifice in a rebuilt temple.




The Sages taught: During the tenure of Shimon HaTzaddik, the lot for God always arose in the High Priest’s right hand; after his death, it occurred only occasionally; but during the forty years prior to the destruction of the Second Temple, the lot for God did not arise in the High Priest’s right hand at all. So too, the strip of crimson wool that was tied to the head of the goat that was sent to Azazel did not turn white, and the westernmost lamp of the candelabrum did not burn continually.

And the doors of the Sanctuary opened by themselves as a sign that they would soon be opened by enemies, until Rabban Yoḥanan ben Zakkai scolded them. He said to the Sanctuary: Sanctuary, Sanctuary, why do you frighten yourself with these signs? I know about you that you will ultimately be destroyed, and Zechariah, son of Ido, has already prophesied concerning you: “Open your doors, O Lebanon, that the fire may devour your cedars” (Zechariah 11:1), Lebanon being an appellation for the Temple.


Do you understand ? God abandoned the temple 40 years before its destruction.

Let me rephrase it... God did not acknowledge animal sacrifices for sins 40 years before the temple was destroyed... and abandoned the temple when His Son was crucified.


1) you have made pretty much everything up on the spot. I'm used to xtians behaving in this way.

you said 'it's a countdown to the messiah'
then why did said messiah leave at the 69th week mark? it isnt a countdown to the messiah, it is about the temple.

4 “Seventy ‘sevens’[c] are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish[d] transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place.[

25 “Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem

The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary.



'prince to come'

Titus was the son of Vespasian and the 'little horn' who belonged to the 10. He only became emperor after the temple was gone but he is counted amongst the 10 because his reign in a jerusalem centric context began with the destruction of jerusalem. Hence it is often written as 'prince' instead of ruler, why not king? use your brainbox mate.

"the wing of abominations" is a references to the 'abomination of desolation' which again Jesus mentioned in Matthew 24 regarding the destruction of the temple.
hence it adds
"shall be one who makes desolate "
so of course it is temple centric and hasnt been shoehorned in.

2) random rabbinic stories now? talk about desperate.

In the middle of the ‘seven’[i] he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple[j] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him

whether or not animal sacrifice at the temple, post Christ, was accepted by God or not..the fact is actual sacrifice would have continued. the act in itself would continue as long as the temple existed...
'putting an end to sacrifice and offering' means jews physically and literally losing the ability to do so...ie the destruction of the temple.
Which goes back to my most basic and simple point....

'it is temple centric'

since it is all temple centric it goes back to the earlier point, linking the final half a week (since the temple is destroyed midway) which constantly corresponds to this 1260 days number in Revelation and that too in relation to the 'gentiles', perfectly in sync with luke 21.
Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

of all the gentiles, the ishmaelites are foremost as far as a biblical/patriarchal connection, due to God's promise made to 'make ishmael a great nation and raise from him 12 princes (context, 12 CALIPHS from Quraysh).
i think it is all fascinating that it goes perfectly in sync, with muslims LITERALLY ruling the temple mount for 1260 lunar years.


3) your attempts to attack islam and delegitimise it will fail every single time. the proof is all there.
the promise made concerning Ishmael, could only ever come after Jesus had come and thus

10 The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor the ruler's staff from between his feet, until he comes to whom it belongs; and to him shall be the obedience of the peoples.

and
'by their tresspass, the gentiles are reckoned'.

So it makes total sense that Jesus came, completed the Mosaic law and brought Gentiles into the original state of Faith like Abraham.
Why would the story end there? if God revealed the Torah, on the basis of magnifying His Grace, through the 'fulfillment of the law', then it makes even more sense that this process would repeat for the gentiles via a global scripture/law similar to the Torah. Since judaism is complete..there has to be a non-israelite Moses type prophet, law bringer, leader etc. It makes perfect sense that God would raise such a figure from Ismael who then makes Ismael 'a great nation'.
So now the gentiles with the Quran, are like the jews pre-Christ who were sinful under the law. They had a certain 'depth of sinfulness' in them, they couldnt wash it out of themselves. All human endeavor failed..people were found to be weak. The nafs (serpent/carnal nature) was ultimately too strong. The law, by it's own nature, reveals the depths of sin within us we would otherwise have no care for. Islam is such a religion where amuslim cannot even touch alcohol...which means our standard of sin and cleanliness is a level above even the mosaic law. However that also means the depth of sin becomes greater...and hence the need for the second coming of Jesus to fulfill the Quranic law as he fulfilled the Mosaic law, makes God's Grace much greater.
 

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you said 'it's a countdown to the messiah'
then why did said messiah leave at the 69th week mark? it isnt a countdown to the messiah, it is about the temple.
Daniel 9 is a countdown to the Messiah... and a countdown to the prince who shall come.

(Messiah is the Most holy... and Jesus likened Himself to the temple and was also anointed just before His crucifixion).


The countdown to the Messiah commenced on Nisan 444 BC and 7x360 weeks + 62x360 weeks later completed on Nisan 33 AD.

The countdown to the prince who shall come commenced on June 7 1967 and 7x360 weeks later completed on Sept 23 2015 Yom Kippur.


So the identity of the Messiah and the prince who shall come are both knowns.

Jesus Christ is the former and this pope is the latter.


The question is if this pope is also the antichrist ?





whether or not animal sacrifice at the temple, post Christ, was accepted by God or not..the fact is actual sacrifice would have continued. the act in itself would continue as long as the temple existed...
So 40 years before the temple was destroyed... God did not acknowledge animal sacrifice for sins.

Why is that you think ?


'putting an end to sacrifice and offering' means jews physically and literally losing the ability to do so...ie the destruction of the temple.
Which goes back to my most basic and simple point....
So the prince who shall come is this pope.

And this pope has nothing to do with the 2nd temple which was destroyed about 2000 years ago. No this pope has a lot to do with churches. And churches closed (in the middle of the last seven) because of corona.



3) your attempts to attack islam and delegitimise it will fail every single time. the proof is all there.
Do i think islam is satan's attempt to lead the world astray from Jesus Christ and fight jews and christians and all people for that matter ?

Yes i do.
 
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Daniel 9 is a countdown to the Messiah... and a countdown to the prince who shall come.

(Messiah is the Most holy... and Jesus likened Himself to the temple and was also anointed just before His crucifixion).


The countdown to the Messiah commenced on Nisan 444 BC and 7x360 weeks + 62x360 weeks later completed on Nisan 33 AD.

The countdown to the prince who shall come commenced on June 7 1967 and 7x360 weeks later completed on Sept 23 2015 Yom Kippur.


So the identity of the Messiah and the prince who shall come are both knowns.

Jesus Christ is the former and this pope is the latter.


The question is if this pope is also the antichrist ?






So 40 years before the temple was destroyed... God did not acknowledge animal sacrifice for sins.

Why is that you think ?



So the prince who shall come is this pope.

And this pope has nothing to do with the 2nd temple which was destroyed about 2000 years ago. No this pope has a lot to do with churches. And churches closed (in the middle of the last seven) because of corona.




Do i think islam is satan's attempt to lead the world astray from Jesus Christ and fight jews and christians and all people for that matter ?

Yes i do.

lmfao prince to come is the pope..and Jesus is the temple
you are a fking clown.
 
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in the text it didnt say PRINCE, it said RULER...
it is only written as prince because people understand well enough that it was Titus 'the little horn' and son of vespasian.

you are out of your depth and full of lies.
xtian.
 

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lmfao prince to come is the pope..and Jesus is the temple
you are a fking clown.
L0L

When the countdown to the commander ruler prince leader whatever who shall come... counts down to Sept 23 2015 Yom Kippur... then it can't be Titus.

The pope confirmed Agenda 21 in the United Nations on Sept 25 2015... and so he literally fulfilled (confirming a covenant with many) what was prophesied about him.




John 2 18On account of this, the Jews demanded, “What sign can You show us to prove Your authority to do these things?”

19Jesus answered, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up again.”

20“This temple took forty-six years to build,” the Jews replied, “and You are going to raise it up in three days?”

21But Jesus was speaking about the temple of His body. 22After He was raised from the dead, His disciples remembered that He had said this. Then they believed the Scripture and the word that Jesus had spoken.






in the text it didnt say PRINCE, it said RULER...
it is only written as prince because people understand well enough that it was Titus 'the little horn' and son of vespasian.

you are out of your depth and full of lies.
xtian.
Sone bible versions use prince but we can use ruler if you want... it doesn't change a damn thing.


You don't understand that your so full of yourself... that the shepherde can't talk sense through your thick skull?

That's exactly how it was between the Good shepherd and the pharisees.
 
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("Operation Guardian of the Walls times 4") Because the National Guard Not operational yet, these operations will cause great damage to Israel and its ability to withstand the ground attack and on the other hand will charge a very low price to those carrying out these operations.

The international reactions:

Russia and China, Iran's allies, will "call on both sides to cease violence", will support Iran almost openly and provide it with information about what is happening in Israel. Turkey will join the call to cease violent actions but will implicitly support Iran. In the Arab and Islamic world, crowds will come out for demonstrations of support for Iran and its action to eliminate the Zionist entity, similar to the support that the crowds gave to Hassan Nasrallah in the Second Lebanon War, 2006. This time, unlike in 2006, Saudi Arabia will not take a negative position towards the attack on Israel.

The American and European governments will not intervene militarily, but will content themselves with words because no one in the West is looking for another combat arena than the Ukrainian one, which empties NATO's ammunition depots and dries up its leaders' desire to intervene in wars that are not theirs. Some will see the Iranian attack as an opportunity to get rid of the "headache" that Israel It has been a reason for them for years, and this view has intensified in recent months after the internal mess in the State of Israel created for it the image of a conflicted and messy country with a depleted civil force that has lost all will to mobilize and fight, and on the other hand - a directionless, irresponsible, ungovernable and powerless government that cannot adequately treat even blocking roads.

From the point of view of the West, the loss of Israel is not so terrible, because in any case the Middle East turned its back on the West when Saudi Arabia and its Gulf partners - countries much more important than Israel - decided to turn their backs on the weak Western coalition and join the strong and growing Eastern Alliance that includes Russia, China, Iran , North Korea, Venezuela and more.

The Iranian government is very impressed by the continued desire, the American in particular and the West in general, to please Iran, remove the sanctions from it and accept it as a respected member of the family of nations while demonstrably ignoring the Iranian run towards the bomb. This Western behavior instills in the hearts of the decision makers in Iran the feeling that no one in the West will do anything and half anything on the practical military level to stop an air and ground attack on Israel like the one described above.

The American forces present in eastern Syria are meant to protect American interests, not Israeli ones, and Iran has already demonstrated several times that it has no problem attacking these American forces with missiles and drones. The American administration knows the negative attitude of the liberal majority in American Jewry towards Israel, and in particular in the months the latter, and therefore he is not afraid that he will pay too great a public and political price if he lets Israel deal with the Iranian invasion on its own. Biden will of course declare to the cameras that "Israel has the right to defend itself", but he will try not to take any real steps.

A coordinated missile and UAV attack is not a theory; Iran already did such a thing to Saudi Arabia on September 14, 2019, and this attack caused enormous damage to Saudi Arabia's ability to export oil for many months. This was probably the reason for Saudi Arabia's avoidance of joining the Abraham Accords and the factor that pushed Saudi Arabia - together with other parties - to recently abandon the understandings it had with Israel and join the Iranian camp. The US under Trump's presidency and Europe did nothing against Iran following the attack in 2019, so it is certain that today they will do nothing when Biden is the president.


And


How the Palestinians fell into the Iranian trap

This is the difference between the cunning sages (the Iranians) and the fools (the Palestinians),

Once again the Palestinians are used as cheap cannon fodder.

The kingdom of Persia (Iran) is an ancient culture of thousands of years, to compare them with the invented nation ? The truth is that it offends the Iranians a bit and I can understand them.

What in all did the Iranians do? They transferred weapons and knowledge to the Palestinian terrorist organizations, they did not give them money for development, neither fuel nor gas, and they certainly did not supply them with wheat.

All that was provided was weapons, in fact the Iranians are using the Palestinians for the benefit of Iranian interests without the Palestinians even realizing that they are being used and becoming another Iranian arm.

Iran's one and only supreme interest is to keep the danger away from home, Iran is obsessed with maintaining the security of its borders, they invest billions in this, that their borders remain closed and secure.

Understand that Iran keeps the fire away from it as much as possible through safe investment and these are the Iranian proxy.

By the way, the calculation of the Iranians is very simple, to spend money that in any case they will have to spend without there being a serious injury inside Iran, neither human nor the infrastructure.

Therefore they have the proxy powers in:

Iraq
Syria
Lebanon
Yemen
Gaza

The Iranians have no problem with the proxies bleeding like a river, that's exactly the point, proxy blood and not Iranian blood.
The invented nation also fell into this trap, because what is expected in the near future? The Palestinians

will die by the thousands and their infrastructure will go back 75 years, and in Iran? In Iran, not a drop of blood will be spilled and all the infrastructure will continue to function as usual, because "it's not us" they will say.

Stupid have I already written?

It's just like the last incident that was from Syrian territory, a "Palestinian" rocket fire, a reaction inside Syrian territory, but the eyes are in the end on the Gaza Strip, or southern Lebanon.

Iran knows that it cannot directly attack Israel because then the price will be high, the use of the Palestinians, the Yemeni Iraqis, the Syrians and the Lebanese exactly serves their desires to hurt and exhaust Israel.

(Abu Saleh)

I also find it intriguing that this whole cycle appears to have entered a new phase to coincide with Passover.

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Israel must prepare for war with Iran without US help, former NSA chief says


Former Israeli national security adviser Yaakov Amidror. (photo: Flash90)

Former national security adviser Yaakov Amidror said Thursday that war with Iran is increasingly likely and Israel needs to gear up to attack without US assistance.

“We need to prepare for war. It’s possible that we will reach a point where we have to attack Iran even without American assistance,” Amidror, a hawkish former general who served as Nation Security Council chief under Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in 2011-2013, said in an interview with Radio 103 FM.

Amidror was discussing a flareup over the Passover holiday that saw rockets fired at Israel from Gaza, Lebanon, and Syria by groups largely seen as Iranian proxies.
 

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APRIL 14, 2023

Israel’s efforts to forge Saudi ties said on ice as tensions with Palestinians spike

Saudi Arabia’s interest in establishing diplomatic relations with Israel has cooled in recent months amid ongoing violence in the West Bank and clashes at the flashpoint Temple Mount site, US media reported this week.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu prioritized including the kingdom in the 2020 Abraham Accords upon his return to office in December, but Riyadh and other Muslim nations have become reluctant to openly advance a deal due to spiking Israeli-Palestinian tensions, Israeli and Gulf officials told The Wall Street Journal.

Notably, a plan brokered by Washington to schedule direct flights from Tel Aviv to Mecca, allowing Israel’s Muslim citizens to more easily take part in the sacred Hajj pilgrimage, is unlikely to be finalized, Israeli officials told the paper.
 
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After review of 167 warships, Putin says Russia's Pacific fleet can be used in any conflict


A still image from video, released by Russia's Defence Ministry, shows what it said to be a missile ship of Russia's Pacific Fleet firing a Moskit cruise missile at a mock enemy sea target in the waters of the Sea of Japan, in this still image taken from video released March 28, 2023. (photo: Russian Defense Ministry, Handout via Reuters)

In the midst of a massive surprise inspection of the Russian Pacific Fleet, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Monday that the fleet can be used in conflicts "in any direction," according to the Kremlin.

The chief concern of the Russian armed forces is the Ukrainian theatre and newly annexed territories, Putin said in response to a briefing on the navy by Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, but that the operations of the Pacific Fleet had not been canceled.

Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov commented on Putin’s statements to Interfax, saying that "our environment is very turbulent in many areas, fraught with conflict situations, regional conflicts, we all know the geography of these regional conflicts well. That was what we were talking about
 

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In Israel, son of last shah says Iranians ‘absolutely’ ready for Israel ties


Exiled Iranian opposition figure Reza Pahlavi, joined by Intelligence Minister Gila Gamliel (L), in Tel Aviv, April 19, 2023. (photo: Avshalom Sassoni, Flash90)

Reza Pahlavi, prominent Iranian opposition leader and son of Iran’s deposed monarch, expressed hope that Israel and Iran will return to being “strategic partners” as they were under his father’s rule — predicated on regime change that the exiled crown prince has long advocated for the Islamic Republic.

“I know that Iranians and Israelis see how important it will be for our future to be our strategic partners, to work together, to address many issues,” he said.

“I’ve come here to convey this message to Israeli citizens,” he added. He choked up with emotion after describing the “overwhelming” outpouring of support he has received from Israelis since arriving.
 

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Overlooking Israel from Lebanon border, Iran’s Foreign Minister says ‘Zionist collapse’ is near


Iran's foreign minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian, right, looks out at Israel from Lebanon's border during a tour on April 28, 2023. (photo: Sepah Pasdaran, Twitter)

Iran’s foreign minister toured Lebanon’s border with Israel Friday during a visit to the Arab nation, and was documented looking out at the Jewish state his regime regards as an arch enemy.

Hossein Amir-Abdollahian took the tour with a number of Lebanese parliamentarians and members of the Iran-backed Hezbollah terror group, after meeting with Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah.

Amir-Abdollahian said Nasrallah assured him that “the Lebanese and Palestinian resistance [to Israel] are in their best condition ever,” according to Iranian media reports.

He said the two also discussed the recent Iranian-Saudi deal to restore diplomatic ties, and its effect on the region.

At the lookout point toward Israel from the town of Maroun al-Ras, Amir-Abdollahian said “positive developments in the region will lead to the collapse of the Zionist entity,” adding that “Zionists understand only strength.”
 

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'Iran knows breakout to 90% enrichment will result in an Israeli strike'

Amid reports of renewed momentum in talks between Iran and the West over a nuclear deal, Israel sent a warning to Iran on Sunday.

A senior Israeli official to Israel Hayom that "Iran knows that breaking out to 90% purity in uranium enrichment will result in an Israeli strike." The official added that the US and Western nations know that Israel has set this threshold and that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu made it clear this was Jerusalem's red line during his recent visits to European capitals.

The source further assessed that despite the US trying hard to finalize an agreement with Iran, it will not be realized because Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei does not want such an outcome, even though on Sunday the Iranian ayatollah delivered a speech in favor of reaching a deal that would allow Iran to keep its nuclear infrastructure.
 

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Wagner chief moving to Belarus after Lukashenko-brokered deal to halt march on Moscow


In this handout photo taken from video released by Prigozhin Press Service, Yevgeny Prigozhin, the owner of the Wagner Group military company, records his video addresses in Rostov-on-Don, Russia, Saturday, June 24, 2023. (photo: Prigozhin Press Service via AP)

Wagner chief Veygeny Prigozhin is moving to Belarus under a deal brokered by President Alexander Lukashenko to halt the mercenary group’s march on Moscow, according to an announcement from the Kremlin.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Lukashenko had offered to mediate, with an agreement from Russian President Vladimir Putin, because he had known Prigozhin personally for around 20 years.
The announcement came after Prigozhin said he had ordered Wagner troops to turn around, defusing a dramatically escalating crisis.

Early Saturday, Wagner troops appeared to control the military headquarters in Rostov-on-Don, a city 660 miles south of Moscow that runs Russian operations in Ukraine. Wagner troops and equipment also were in Lipetsk province, about 360 kilometers south of Moscow...

Later Saturday, Prigozhin announced that while his men were just 120 miles from Moscow, he decided to turn them back to avoid "shedding Russian blood."

Could this be the pivot on which this verse occurs?

Ezekiel 38:4

“And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:”

I guess only time will tell.

 
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Wagner chief moving to Belarus after Lukashenko-brokered deal to halt march on Moscow


In this handout photo taken from video released by Prigozhin Press Service, Yevgeny Prigozhin, the owner of the Wagner Group military company, records his video addresses in Rostov-on-Don, Russia, Saturday, June 24, 2023. (photo: Prigozhin Press Service via AP)

Wagner chief Veygeny Prigozhin is moving to Belarus under a deal brokered by President Alexander Lukashenko to halt the mercenary group’s march on Moscow, according to an announcement from the Kremlin.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Lukashenko had offered to mediate, with an agreement from Russian President Vladimir Putin, because he had known Prigozhin personally for around 20 years.
The announcement came after Prigozhin said he had ordered Wagner troops to turn around, defusing a dramatically escalating crisis.

Early Saturday, Wagner troops appeared to control the military headquarters in Rostov-on-Don, a city 660 miles south of Moscow that runs Russian operations in Ukraine. Wagner troops and equipment also were in Lipetsk province, about 360 kilometers south of Moscow...

Later Saturday, Prigozhin announced that while his men were just 120 miles from Moscow, he decided to turn them back to avoid "shedding Russian blood."

Could this be the pivot on which this verse occurs?

Ezekiel 38:4

“And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:”

I guess only time will tell.


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this clown....
 
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