Trump Presenting Peace Plan To Israeli Leaders

[FaithAndStrength]

First off, Muslims are the followers of the faith, Islam is the religion.
Secondly, the faith explicitly forbids "honor killings", killing of apostates whom are not attacking you, taharush, mandating the hijab and etc. So looking in the mirror at "my own beliefs" I believe those things (among with other foulness "Muslims" were forbidden from engaging in but began to re-insert into culture/society once Prophet Muhammad died) are illegal in Islam. Because they clearly are. But you have been on this board long enough that you already knew these facts, you cheeky monkey you!

As for the rest, your "modern world" would have never emerged into being if God almighty hadnt blessed the followers of Islam w/the scientific knowledge to advance so perhaps do some basic research and show a lil respect?

"Muslims are followers of the faith, Islam is the religion" EXACTLY
"You cheeky monkey you!" I'm frozen in class confused if I need to laugh or be terrified at that sentence...

 

[TempestOfTempo]

"Muslims are followers of the faith, Islam is the religion" EXACTLY
"You cheeky monkey you!" I'm frozen in class confused if I need to laugh or be terrified at that sentence...

I think cheeky monkey is like a British term or sumn which basically means being annoying in a duplicitous, childish manner lol

 

[justjess]

All of this can be verified false by a quick Google search and the videos I have posted.

And if you want to get into the scientific stuff, most of the world's best mathematicians and physicists have been either Christians or Jews. But when you bring up the Jews, people on this board tend to think it's some kind of conspiracy rather than just creativity and high IQ on their part.

Have you ever met a Jew?

Are you aware that iq correlates positively with income? Meaning the higher income home you come from the higher your iq usually is. Not to mention that a whole bunch of white men got in a room and decided what to measure as intelligence to begin with..

 

[Helioform]

Brodawggie, what I posted is correct. Those things aint in the faith, they are outlawed in the faith. Thems just the facts.

I just posted how some of "the worlds best" minds came from Muslim communities, but it appears you cannot accept historical fact. It is interesting that you are whining about Jewish peoples being disrespected when I did no such thing. You created a flimsy false-narrative which was constructed by attributing that to me which I have not promoted. You need to do better than strawmen if you want to convince the world that you possess a brain.....
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You have nothing but propaganda on your side but don't worry the world is waking up to the lies you are peddling.

Here is a treat:

 

[justjess]

@Helioform it is one thing to be supportive of the Jewish cause. It is quite another what I have seen here from you lately... I don’t remember you getting caught up in these religious wars historically. What happened?

 

[TempestOfTempo]

List of Christians in science and technology - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

List of Jewish mathematicians - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

You have nothing but propaganda on your side but don't worry the world is waking up to the lies you are peddling.

Here is a treat:

Except that the facts I posted havent changed in the few moments it took for you to ignore them along with the fact that I was very vocally calling out the grooming gangs here quite a while ago. Probably even before your "heroic efforts" to do so......

 

[Kung Fu]

@Helioform it is one thing to be supportive of the Jewish cause. It is quite another what I have seen here from you lately... I don’t remember you getting caught up in these religious wars historically. What happened?

I'm glad you noticed. I've been hinting at it ever since I got back on these forums. He used to be a decent poster until a thread about the Protocols set him off.

 

[Helioform]

@Helioform it is one thing to be supportive of the Jewish cause. It is quite another what I have seen here from you lately... I don’t remember you getting caught up in these religious wars historically. What happened?

I am not into religious wars at all. I just got tired of being called a "Zionist schill" by people who obviously don't have a clue. I am merely throwing back in their face their utter hypocrisy.

 

[Kung Fu]

I am not into religious wars at all. I just got tired of being called a "Zionist schill" by people who obviously don't have a clue. I am merely throwing back in their face their utter hypocrisy.

When you start making posts in what seems like you believing the Jews to be some higher human form, especially in intelligence, you're surprised that people would call you a "Zionist shill"?

 

[TempestOfTempo]

I am not into religious wars at all. I just got tired of being called a "Zionist schill" by people who obviously don't have a clue. I am merely throwing back in their face their utter hypocrisy.

Feel free to point out where I called you a "Zionist shill".......

 

[justjess]

I am not into religious wars at all. I just got tired of being called a "Zionist schill" by people who obviously don't have a clue. I am merely throwing back in their face their utter hypocrisy.

Ok bro. It seems like more than that to me.. but I’m not going to pry. I never had an issue with you, have always respected you even when we differ. Just hope your aright cuz this is out of character behavior (and not just on the Jewish issue)

 

[Helioform]

Have you ever met a Jew?

Are you aware that iq correlates positively with income? Meaning the higher income home you come from the higher your iq usually is. Not to mention that a whole bunch of white men got in a room and decided what to measure as intelligence to begin with..

I have met a few Jews, one of them was a univ professor of mine and is now pushing for ethical uses of AI.

And I never said that IQ was the sole indicator of intelligence. Just showed that Jews and Christians have contributed a lot to science. Not that the "modern world wouldn't exist without Islam".

 

[TempestOfTempo]

I have met a few Jews, one of them was a univ professor of mine and is now pushing for ethical uses of AI.

And I never said that IQ was the sole indicator of intelligence. Just showed that Jews and Christians have contributed a lot to science. Not that the "modern world wouldn't exist without Islam".

The modern world exists because God almighty blessed peoples of ALL nations with the ability to advance and achieve.....

 

[justjess]

I have met a few Jews, one of them was a univ professor of mine and is now pushing for ethical uses of AI.

And I never said that IQ was the sole indicator of intelligence. Just showed that Jews and Christians have contributed a lot to science. Not that the "modern world wouldn't exist without Islam".

Ok. That’s a start. Have you ever lived among a community of them? I know those are a rare thing outside the northeast USA so I figure I should ask

What I’m telling you is even measures of IQ are skewed towards favoring certain people, wealthy people to begin with. So I get that you were saying it flippantly possibly to piss someone off but it isn’t really a valid measure of much other than wealth. And I’m saying this as someone with a really high iq, who also grew up fairly wealthy and with many advantages over other people that I am willing to acknowledge.

 

[Wigi]

The modern world exists because God almighty blessed peoples of ALL nations with the ability to advance and achieve.....

You know it's arguably false.
The modern world is the product of conflicts and most scientific progress were made possible when technologies became a mean of domination.
The Western world is dominant because we knew how to turn theoretical knowledge into practical technologies.
I can agree in some extent that it's God's given but a blessing can be a curse when you don't know how to exploit your talents properly.

 

[TempestOfTempo]

You know it's arguably false.
The modern world is the product of conflicts and most scientific progress were made possible when technologies became a mean of domination.
The Western world is dominant because we knew how to turn theoretical knowledge into practical technologies.
I can agree in some extent that it's God's given but a blessing can be a curse when you don't know how to exploit your talents properly.

No.
Most scientific "discoveries" were NOT made possible by conflict or domination. Most were made by independent scientists, both pro and am. Now, do the war machines of nation states jump on that tech and develop it for death instead of life? Thats often the case. But the spark of ingenuity and enlightenment comes from the Creator, and its up to us what we do with these discoveries.

The Western world is "dominant" because its leaders were willing to sell their souls and advance their own schemes of conquest at the expense of humanity. Modern society has limped to its current position in spite of the "Western world" not because f it.

 

[Wigi]

Most scientific "discoveries" were NOT made possible by conflict or domination. Most were made by independent scientists, both pro and am

I distinguish scientific discoveries from scientific progress and yes there was a race for innovation motivated by a spirit of conquest during the 19th century.

Modern society has limped to its current position in spite of the "Western world" not because f it.

I don't know what you put behind the term 'modern society' maybe you talk about the state of the world in general while I'm more focused on the western world but for example, healthcare in Europe is the product of the World wars.

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The Impact of War on Public Health in the 20th Century Facts & Worksheets. Includes lesson plans & study material resources.

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[TempestOfTempo]

I distinguish scientific discoveries from scientific progress and yes there was a race for innovation motivated by a spirit of conquest during the 19th century.


I don't know what you put behind the term 'modern society' maybe you talk about the state of the world in general while I'm more focused on the western world but for example, healthcare in Europe is the product of the World wars.

The Impact of War on Public Health in the 20th Century Facts & Worksheets

The Impact of War on Public Health in the 20th Century Facts & Worksheets. Includes lesson plans & study material resources.

schoolhistory.co.uk

And modern medicine and health care can be traced back to the innovations of the Muslim world. How I wish us Muslims would return to valuing life, knowledge and our faith instead of raging about how pious we are while trying desperately to keep up w/the Kardashians.

 

[Thunderian]

First off, Muslims are the followers of the faith, Islam is the religion.
Secondly, the faith explicitly forbids "honor killings", killing of apostates whom are not attacking you, taharush, mandating the hijab and etc. So looking in the mirror at "my own beliefs" I believe those things (among with other foulness "Muslims" were forbidden from engaging in but began to re-insert into culture/society once Prophet Muhammad died) are illegal in Islam. Because they clearly are. But you have been on this board long enough that you already knew these facts, you cheeky monkey you!

As for the rest, your "modern world" would have never emerged into being if God almighty hadnt blessed the followers of Islam w/the scientific knowledge to advance so perhaps do some basic research and show a lil respect?

Yes, the two words that first come to most people's minds when you mention Islam are "peace" and "science". Muslims like to remind us of all the things that are expressly forbidden in the Quran, but clam up real quick when you ask them why Muslims keep breaking their own laws.

What does the Quran say about launching rockets at civilians? What does it say about suicide bombers who kill and maim innocent people? What does it say about stabbing a mother to death in her bed, and then cutting the head off her baby? That's what Muslims are doing right now to Jews in Israel, so what do the Muslims here have to say about that?

 

[Helioform]

Ok. That’s a start. Have you ever lived among a community of them? I know those are a rare thing outside the northeast USA so I figure I should ask

What I’m telling you is even measures of IQ are skewed towards favoring certain people, wealthy people to begin with. So I get that you were saying it flippantly possibly to piss someone off but it isn’t really a valid measure of much other than wealth. And I’m saying this as someone with a really high iq, who also grew up fairly wealthy and with many advantages over other people that I am willing to acknowledge.

No never lived in a community of Jews.

IQ is not necessarilly correlated to wealth but more to certain cultures.

No such thing as a 'universal' intelligence test: Cultural differences determine results country by country

Scientists have studied 54 individuals -- half Spanish and half Moroccan -- to determine how IQ tests work. New research suggests that a universal test of intelligence quotient does not exist. Results in this type of test are determined to a strong degree by cultural differences.

www.sciencedaily.com

I also have a high IQ but was raised in an average income family.

Ashkenazi Jews have a higher IQ mostly because they have been bred through centuries of having been forced into intellectual professions such as bookkeeping and banking. They were forbidden to have farms and do manual work inside Catholic settlements so they had to do this type of work. Their high IQ is also the cause of some neurological diseases they tend to have.