Trump Presenting Peace Plan To Israeli Leaders

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Egypt was a custodian appointed and invited by the Palestinians from 1948 until 1967, so Israel never at any time "won Gaza from Egypt" because it was never Egypts.
What political body made up of Palestinian Arabs invited the Egyptians to occupy Gaza? Who was it's leader? What was the seat of their power? Where did they derive their authority from?

Then you still stick with the "There is no such nation as “historic Palestine" that it's a "myth" yet i showed you clearly from my second posting, the one you ignored, that Palestine was a nation.
Here's your second post. I didn't ignore it, I merely had not responded to it yet.

Wrong.
"4. Certain communities formerly belonging to the Turkish Empire have reached a stage of development where their existence as independent nations can be provisionally recognised subject to the rendering of administrative advice and assistance by a Mandatory until such time as they are able to stand alone. The wishes of these communities must be a principal consideration in the selection of the Mandatory....In a first group — "A" Mandates 1/ (Syria and Lebanon, Palestine and Transjordan, and Iraq) — the nation is provisionally recognised as independent, but receives the advice and assistance of a Mandatory in its administration until such time as it is able to stand alone. " Palestine being an A mandate was a state. Further the mandatory enacted, in 1925, a nationality law in Palestine.
I am unsure what you think you're proving by this. What you've quoted is a section from Article 22 of the League of Nations Covenant. It spells out the goal of turning Mandates in the former Ottoman empire into functioning nations. What were you hoping it says?

The middle part of your comment is also wrong. Jews had to apply, through the nationality law, for Palestinian citizenship...some di, some did not.
You don't understand that the citizenship was in Mandatory Palestine, and not an independent state called Palestine, do you? People living in Mandatory Palestine (the area administered by the British under the terms of the League of Nations Mandate for Palestine) were able to be granted citizenship, by the British, in Mandatory Palestine. What kind of sovereign nation has to go to the British to issue citizenship in their country?

the bottom part of your comment hurts my head. In the middle part you say, " Jew and Arab — who lived in the region called Palestine was, by definition, a Palestinian." then you contradict that in the bottom part by saying, " Arab Palestinians just chose to not participate in the “Palestinian” state." Erm it was the zionists who declared independence from Palestine ergo it was the zionists who " chose to not participate in the “Palestinian” state" which in itself is weird because you just stated that "There was never a state called Palestine, ever."
The Jews didn't declare independence from a Palestinian state. Their declaration is entitled "The Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel", and it came into effect at the moment the British Mandate for Palestine expired. Israel was declaring independence from the Mandate -- an independence that was the express goal of the Article 22 of the League of Nations, which you so helpfully posted the relevant text of earlier. The declaration invited all former citizens of the defunct Mandatory Palestine to become citizens of the new, independent, state of Israel.

As an aside, the state of Jordan declared independence on May 25, 1946. Do you think that they also were declaring independence from a Palestinian state?

But according to you it's all a myth. So when the KJ bible mentions the coasts of Palestine then it's a myth ergo the KJ is not to be believed.
There is a region that has historically been known as Palestine. A region isn't a state.

The mandate for Palestine is a myth, the Palestine nationality law is a myth etc etc.
The Mandate for Palestine was not a state, and the citizenship (not nationality) given to it's residents was in the Mandate, not a sovereign state. You can't be this clueless.

You then ask me, "I’m very curious what you mean about Israel removing settlers from Gaza “because of the cost”. Can you explain?"

Sure, as soon as you stop spreading, either knowingly or unknowingly, disinformation, you and i can discuss these things but at this point i feel that it would be a waste of my time to do so.
I don't really care anyway. I know why Israel pulled out of Gaza. I just wanted to see how much bigger of a fool you were willing to make of yourself. Given your grasp of what "Mandatory Palestine" means, your explanation of the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza should have us rolling on the floor.
 






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Ecclesiastes 1:9 (KJV)
9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
 






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#Hijackednations
One day they will come out from under the skirts of Mama Great Britain and Papa the United States and their plots will become like the dust in the wind....
:)This spoiler is for @Red Sky at Morning : How about we leave verses in the right forum dude?
: 'It may be that your Lord may show mercy unto you, but if you return (to sins), We shall return (to Our Punishment). And We have made Hell a prison for the disbelievers" [Qur'an 17:4-8]. "]

 






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One day they will come out from under the skirts of Mama Great Britain and Papa the United States and their plots will become like the dust in the wind....
:)This spoiler is for @Red Sky at Morning : How about we leave verses in the right forum dude?
: 'It may be that your Lord may show mercy unto you, but if you return (to sins), We shall return (to Our Punishment). And We have made Hell a prison for the disbelievers" [Qur'an 17:4-8]. "]

That’s fine @DesertRose - that’s why I always post in the “religious one”, as I find that divorcing an understanding of world events from their prophetic context is a bit pointless...
 






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That’s fine @DesertRose - that’s why I always post in the “religious one”, as I find that divorcing an understanding of world events from their prophetic context is a bit pointless...
There are engineered events on the world stage and interpretations of humans can be incorrect.
Let us not make the Secular Zionists happy by supporting their wrongdoing with religious misinterpretations.
Better to invest time in worship and peaceful initiatives. I like the 8 beatitudes btw.later, Red.
 






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There are engineered events on the world stage and interpretations of humans can be incorrect.
Let us not make the Secular Zionists happy by supporting their wrongdoing with religious misinterpretations.
Better to invest time in worship and peaceful initiatives. I like the 8 beatitudes btw.later, Red.
Perhaps we can both agree that the schemes of even the most Machiavellian men will come to naught in the light of God’s sovereign will. I don’t involve myself in politics so much as keep my eye on it (if that makes sense).

I think the heart of the true Christian path can be found in 1 Corinthians 13. When people who claim the cross deviate from this, they quickly lose there way and often make a shameful example of their faith.
 






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Netanyahu, Israeli officials meet with US mapping team for West Bank annexation


Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu left, US Ambassador to Israel David Friedman, center, and Tourism Minister Yariv Levin during a meeting to discuss mapping extension of Israeli sovereignty to areas of the West Bank, held in the Ariel settlement, February 24, 2020. (David Azagury / US Embassy Jerusalem)

The US members of a committee formed to map out areas of the West Bank that Israel plans to annex as part of the Trump administration’s peace plan met Monday with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other senior Israeli officials as they pressed ahead with the project.

It was the first time that the two sides have met to work together on deciding which areas Israel will extend sovereignty to, a measure tantamount to annexation.

“The mapping is underway to prepare the way for extending sovereignty on these territories,” Netanyahu declared as the two delegations huddled together under temporary shelters amid pouring rain at the West Bank settlement of Ariel, where the meeting was held.

“We will do this as soon as possible,” the prime minister said.

In other news...

UN Security Council calls for 'two-state solution' to be respected



The UN Security Council made a rare show of unity Monday when it called on all parties to maintain their support for a two-state solution to the Israel-Palestinian Arab conflict.

"Council Members reiterated their support for a negotiated two state solution ... where two democratic states, Israel and Palestine, live side by side in peace within secure and recognized borders," said a statement quoted by AFP and released by Belgium, which holds the rotating presidency, and supported by all 14 other members, including the United States.

"All parties should refrain from undermining the viability of the two states solution in order to maintain the prospects for a just, comprehensive and lasting peace," the statement added, in an allusion to Israel's announcement last week on construction of new homes in Jerusalem.

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Netanyahu, Israeli officials meet with US mapping team for West Bank annexation


Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu left, US Ambassador to Israel David Friedman, center, and Tourism Minister Yariv Levin during a meeting to discuss mapping extension of Israeli sovereignty to areas of the West Bank, held in the Ariel settlement, February 24, 2020. (David Azagury / US Embassy Jerusalem)

The US members of a committee formed to map out areas of the West Bank that Israel plans to annex as part of the Trump administration’s peace plan met Monday with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other senior Israeli officials as they pressed ahead with the project.

It was the first time that the two sides have met to work together on deciding which areas Israel will extend sovereignty to, a measure tantamount to annexation.

“The mapping is underway to prepare the way for extending sovereignty on these territories,” Netanyahu declared as the two delegations huddled together under temporary shelters amid pouring rain at the West Bank settlement of Ariel, where the meeting was held.

“We will do this as soon as possible,” the prime minister said.

In other news...

UN Security Council calls for 'two-state solution' to be respected



The UN Security Council made a rare show of unity Monday when it called on all parties to maintain their support for a two-state solution to the Israel-Palestinian Arab conflict.

"Council Members reiterated their support for a negotiated two state solution ... where two democratic states, Israel and Palestine, live side by side in peace within secure and recognized borders," said a statement quoted by AFP and released by Belgium, which holds the rotating presidency, and supported by all 14 other members, including the United States.

"All parties should refrain from undermining the viability of the two states solution in order to maintain the prospects for a just, comprehensive and lasting peace," the statement added, in an allusion to Israel's announcement last week on construction of new homes in Jerusalem.

Looks like they are certainly pushing for an Armageddon conflict.......
 






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Looks like they are certainly pushing for an Armageddon conflict.......
I think there is a popular misconception with Armageddon - if I understand it correctly, this happens at the end of the Tribulation (but I don’t want to get too eschatological on the News thread to tptb will get annoyed ;-)
 






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I think there is a popular misconception with Armageddon - if I understand it correctly, this happens at the end of the Tribulation (but I don’t want to get too eschatological on the News thread to tptb will get annoyed ;-)
I get that there are various misconceptions and disagreements about the exact whens and wheres (although I thought we are not to concern ourselves w/that day because only God knows when it will fall) of the end...... and I understand the intent behind your reply. Im just stating what some are pushing for and why, regardless if it makes any sense or not (which it dont, scriptural or otherwise).
 






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I get that there are various misconceptions and disagreements about the exact whens and wheres (although I thought we are not to concern ourselves w/that day because only God knows when it will fall) of the end...... and I understand the intent behind your reply. Im just stating what some are pushing for and why, regardless if it makes any sense or not (which it dont, scriptural or otherwise).
I think any attempts to try to force perceived scriptural outcomes would be mistaken - just look at Dabiq! If God is sovereign (and I believe He is), certain things that might happen will be prevented by His overriding will.
 






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Here's a scenario for you.

Let's just say one day you get notice that a group of psychotic cultists have decided that they are coming to Canada to take residence. They claim that Canada used to belong to them many years ago. It was given to them by God. They have very professional looking books that prove this theory.

As a result this means you will have to vacate your family home and find somewhere else to live.

Now once you have removed yourself and your family to another area the psychotic cultists will then build this big temple where your current town hall stands, they'll slaughter a few animals then that brings forth the end of the world as we know it because God decides we are all sinners.

....I know, ridiculous isn't it?

....tell me....how would YOU negotiate with the cult?
 






Thunderian

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Here's a scenario for you.

Let's just say one day you get notice that a group of psychotic cultists have decided that they are coming to Canada to take residence. They claim that Canada used to belong to them many years ago. It was given to them by God. They have very professional looking books that prove this theory.

As a result this means you will have to vacate your family home and find somewhere else to live.

Now once you have removed yourself and your family to another area the psychotic cultists will then build this big temple where your current town hall stands, they'll slaughter a few animals then that brings forth the end of the world as we know it because God decides we are all sinners.

....I know, ridiculous isn't it?

....tell me....how would YOU negotiate with the cult?
That’s not what happened to Arabs in Palestine, but when you put it that way, it seems completely reasonable that Palestinians would sacrifice their own children in the cause of hating Jews. I’ve been wrong this whole time. There is nothing more just and noble than killing the literal future of your people — your own children — because you would rather believe lies about Jews than build a place for your kids to live.
 






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I dismissed the following book as fanciful a while back...


Now I’m not so sure...

 






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