The Saudi Regime Is 2- Faced!

[Lisa]

He is more legit than the snake oil salesmen you guys listen to......js

Nah by all means continue derailing my thread...... it shows your true colors for the newbies on the board. Bye Lisa.
#nomorewarsforisrael #hijackednations

He kinda is a snake oil salesman

Well I would think you’re true colors are showing more than mine, say something you don’t like and you threaten people...says a lot about you. I think my continuing to post just shows that I’m not intimidated by you.

Is there a reason that you can’t just say Lisa will you please leave my thread? I’m just wondering, it seems like a true hardship for you?

 

[DesertRose]

To reiterate telling people they will have deep regret for helping satan (satanists and zionists of all stripes) is a promise not a threat:
Good try though.
You are duly reported for derailing my thread with irrelevant comments.

Christian Zionists are 2-faced!
#nomorewarsforisrael #hijackednations
A Marriage From Hell; Christian Zionists & Kabbalah Wizards in Israel

 

[DesertRose]

.....and below a re-post relevant to the topic of this thread before we were rudely sidetracked.

Iran might restart the 'stop and search' tactics (last used during the Iran/Iraq war) against ships coming out of the UAE AND Saudi because of their push for Iranian sanctions. (Other countries in the region such as Kuwait, Oman, Qatar and Bahrain will not be subjected to this).
Stop buying Iranian oil or face sanctions? | Inside Story

The ineffectual Arab league is a toothless tiger
Analysis: Talk but no action: has the Arab League summit failed? | Al Jazeera English

 

[UnderAlienControl]

Saudi Savagery: Kingdom Beheads 16-Year-Old For Sending Whatsapp Message
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-27/saudi-arabia-tortures-and-beheads-16-year-old-sending-whatsapp-message

 

[UnderAlienControl]

Saudi crown prince defends China's right to put Uighur Muslims in concentration camps
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/02/22/saudi-crown-prince-defends-chinas-right-put-uighur-muslims-concentration/

 

[DesertRose]

Saudi crown prince defends China's right to put Uighur Muslims in concentration camps

Horrible regimes in both countries

 

[Allegra]

I facepalm when I see Christian Zionist. I have a friend who is a Christian Zionist. Gosh she’s so lost. They don’t know what they’re supporting.

I was like “Dem Jews ain’t it sis.”

 

[TokiEl]

I facepalm when I see Christian Zionist. I have a friend who is a Christian Zionist. Gosh she’s so lost. They don’t know what they’re supporting.

I was like “Dem Jews ain’t it sis.”

I knew there was something funny about you.

 

[Allegra]

I knew there was something funny about you.

Cuz you are funny to begin with.

My stance on ISRAEL

https://www.desiringgod.org/messages/israel-palestine-and-the-middle-east

 

[TokiEl]

Cuz you are funny to begin with.

My stance on ISRAEL

https://www.desiringgod.org/messages/israel-palestine-and-the-middle-east

Who cares what your stance on Israel is ?

One must be a funny case to not understand that the restoration of Israel was foretold to take place after 2000 years and lo and behold fulfilled right on time.

 

[Allegra]

Who cares what your stance on Israel is ?

One must be a funny case to not understand that the restoration of Israel was foretold to take place after 2000 years and lo and behold fulfilled right on time.

If u dont care then I wont be bothered to answer you.

 

[Thunderian]

Cuz you are funny to begin with.

My stance on ISRAEL

https://www.desiringgod.org/messages/israel-palestine-and-the-middle-east

That article says Israel has lost her inheritance and been replaced by the body of believers because they rejected Christ, but if you read Genesis 15 you will learn that the only one who can break God's covenant with Abraham is God himself, and we all should know that God doesn't break covenants.

 

[Allegra]

That article says Israel has lost her inheritance and been replaced by the body of believers because they rejected Christ, but if you read Genesis 15 you will learn that the only one who can break God's covenant with Abraham is God himself, and we all should know that God doesn't break covenants.

Can a man break the covenant and yet escape? ...Therefore thus says the Lord GOD: As I live, surely my oath which he despised, and my covenant which he broke, I will requite upon his head (Ezekiel 17:15, 19).

15 if you spurn my statutes, and if your soul abhors my rules, so that you will not do all my commandments, but break my covenant, 16 then I will do this to you: I will visit you with panic, with wasting disease and fever that consume the eyes and make the heart ache. And you shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it. (Leviticus 26:15-16)

 

[Thunderian]

Can a man break the covenant and yet escape? ...Therefore thus says the Lord GOD: As I live, surely my oath which he despised, and my covenant which he broke, I will requite upon his head (Ezekiel 17:15, 19).

15 if you spurn my statutes, and if your soul abhors my rules, so that you will not do all my commandments, but break my covenant, 16 then I will do this to you: I will visit you with panic, with wasting disease and fever that consume the eyes and make the heart ache. And you shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it. (Leviticus 26:15-16)

As I said, if you look at the covenant that God made with Abraham, you will see that the only one who can break it is God.

 

[Allegra]

As I said, if you look at the covenant that God made with Abraham, you will see that the only one who can break it is God.

Can you point out which one you are talking about in John Piper's article above?

Because afaik and also according to John Piper himself, Paul's answer is that God's promises to the descendants of Abraham have not failed, even though many Jews are unbelieving and therefore accursed, because the promises were never made to every physical descendant of Abraham.

"It is not as though the word of God has fallen. For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel; and not all are children of Abraham just because they are his descendants; 'but through Isaac shall your descendants be named.' This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are reckoned as descendants." (Rom 9:6-8)

In Genesis 17:4 God says, "Behold, my covenant is with you, and you shall be the father of a multitude of nations."

They not the seed of Abraham because, even though they trace their physical descent to him, they do not share his faith and obedience. That's why John the Baptist said to the unrepentant Jews, "Do not say, 'We have Abraham as our father!'" (Matthew 3:9), and Jesus said to the Jews who rejected him, "If you were Abraham's children, you would do what Abraham did" (John 8:39). In other words, many Israelites (most Israelites) are not the seed of Abraham which will inherit the promises.

 

[Thunderian]

Can you point out which one you are talking about in John Piper's article above?

Because afaik and also according to John Piper himself, Paul's answer is that God's promises to the descendants of Abraham have not failed, even though many Jews are unbelieving and therefore accursed, because the promises were never made to every physical descendant of Abraham.

"It is not as though the word of God has fallen. For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel; and not all are children of Abraham just because they are his descendants; 'but through Isaac shall your descendants be named.' This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are reckoned as descendants." (Rom 9:6-8)

In Genesis 17:4 God says, "Behold, my covenant is with you, and you shall be the father of a multitude of nations."

They not the seed of Abraham because, even though they trace their physical descent to him, they do not share his faith and obedience. That's why John the Baptist said to the unrepentant Jews, "Do not say, 'We have Abraham as our father!'" (Matthew 3:9), and Jesus said to the Jews who rejected him, "If you were Abraham's children, you would do what Abraham did" (John 8:39). In other words, many Israelites (most Israelites) are not the seed of Abraham which will inherit the promises.

The point of Piper's article is that a disobedient Israel has been replaced by the Church, but that's a completely unbiblical stance. The inheritors of God's promise to Abraham will be believing, living, Jews, not believers in general. Resurrected believers, including Jewish ones, will inherit different promises, and this is all spelled out for us in the Bible.

Secular Israel has been regathered into the land, as God promised, and out of them a remnant of believing Jews will fully inherit God's promise to Abraham. Israel today is not the inheritor of God's promise, and no one should be saying they are, but they are certainly a fulfillment of prophecy, and a precursor to the final inheritance of the House of Israel that will take place when they are restored to God.

 

[Allegra]

The point of Piper's article is that a disobedient Israel has been replaced by the Church, but that's a completely unbiblical stance. The inheritor's of God's promise to Abraham will be believing, living, Jews, not believers in general. Resurrected believers, including Jewish ones, will inherit different promises, and this is all spelled out for us in the Bible.

I think you should read my reply and the verses I provide carefully first before saying it 'unbiblical'.

"It is not as though the word of God has fallen. For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel; and not all are children of Abraham just because they are his descendants; 'but through Isaac shall your descendants be named.' This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are reckoned as descendants." (Rom 9:6-8)

If you read Galatians 3, Paul implies and even says it directly

In verse 28
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise.

 

[Thunderian]

I think you should read my reply and the verses I provide carefully first before saying it 'unbiblical'.

"It is not as though the word of God has fallen. For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel; and not all are children of Abraham just because they are his descendants; 'but through Isaac shall your descendants be named.' This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are reckoned as descendants." (Rom 9:6-8)

Living Jews who are believers will inherit the physical promises God made to Abraham regarding his physical seed. Resurrected Jews who are believers will inherit promises made to the Church, and to Abraham regarding his spiritual seed. Don't confuse the literal House of Israel with a spiritual institution -- the Church.

If you read Galatians 3, Paul implies and even says it directly

In verse 28
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise.

This does not exclude the Jewish people from their original covenant, promise and blessing as the natural seed of Abraham. The believing, physical, seed of Abraham will inherit the physical promises.

 

[Allegra]

Living Jews who are believers will inherit the physical promises God made to Abraham regarding his physical seed. Resurrected Jews who are believers will inherit promises made to the Church, and to Abraham regarding his spiritual seed. Don't confuse the literal House of Israel with a spiritual institution -- the Church.



This does not exclude the Jewish people from their original covenant, promise and blessing as the natural seed of Abraham. The believing, physical, seed of Abraham will inherit the physical promises.

Where is the verse to back up this claim.

 

[Thunderian]

Where is the verse to back up this claim.

Which claim? That Jews will inherit the land God promised Abraham, or that Galatians 3 doesn't mean Israel has lost their covenant with God?