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TempestOfTempo

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Actually it shows that you really dont have any true discernment concerning what truly is "The Way" which is why I have warned Todd that he needs to be worried about the fact that so many Non Christians who dont have the Holy Spirit, are so happy to agree with his Doctrine.

The facts are the Natural Man hates the Gospel when it is truly given to him, and the Natural Man can not understand Scripture, one must be Born Again to truly understand it.

1 Cor 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

I am sure you wont like that, but the facts are you can not discern the Truth or The Way correctly because it is Spiritual and only those who have Repented and Believe on Christ and have been Born Again and given the Holy Spirit are able to understand it correctly. Like I said it says something when Unregenerate people line up to congratulate someones doctrine, imo it shows 100% that the doctrine is not True.

If Todd would start preaching the real Gospel I am sure that you would say he wrong and all sorts of other things and would not really want anything to do with what he is saying, just as I am sure that you hate what most of the Christians are preaching and saying here...
"I am sure you wont like that"
"If Todd would start preaching the real Gospel I am sure that you would"
"just as I am sure that you hate what most of the Christians are preaching and saying here"
I came to this discussion with an open mind. You are here, feigning some sort of divine powers which allow you to not only see into my thoughts, but the future as well. I dont have a clue which form of Christianity you follow but if it moves you to make blasphemous proclamations against others, perhaps you should revisit what the Gospel says about those who claim supernatural powers and/or bear false witness against others.
 

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"I am sure you wont like that"
"If Todd would start preaching the real Gospel I am sure that you would"
"just as I am sure that you hate what most of the Christians are preaching and saying here"
I came to this discussion with an open mind. You are here, feigning some sort of divine powers which allow you to not only see into my thoughts, but the future as well. I dont have a clue which form of Christianity you follow but if it moves you to make blasphemous proclamations against others, perhaps you should revisit what the Gospel says about those who claim supernatural powers and/or bear false witness against others.
I quoted Scripture, you didnt like it, why?

Rom 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

I dont have some divine power to look into your mind, but are you going to tell me that what I said isnt True? I mean it surely seems like you dont like what I have to say or what Scripture says concerning the Non Christians ability to understand Scripture.

The only power I have is what Christ has given me in from the Holy Spirit and its nothing that isnt offered to you, all you have to do is cry out to Jesus for Salvation and you to can be Born Again and given the Holy Spirit. Once it is given to you by Grace thru Faith you will then be able to understand the Bible and walk in the Spirit and you will see why your previously ideals about the Bible are incorrect.

What little bit I thought I knew about the Bible before I was Born Again completely changed, in fact for the most part I thought the Bible was wrong, that Jesus was a Good Man and a Good Teacher but that the Bible itself was corrupted by men and incorrect in many areas, especially concerning Sin, Hell and the need for Repentance and Christ being the only way to get to Heaven. Once I was Born Again everything changed, and I knew my previous positions were all wrong...

I hope you come to know Christ as your Lord and Savior, if you do come talk to me and let me know if your perspective on the Bible, and The Way changes...
 

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I quoted Scripture, you didnt like it, why?

Rom 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

I dont have some divine power to look into your mind, but are you going to tell me that what I said isnt True? I mean it surely seems like you dont like what I have to say or what Scripture says concerning the Non Christians ability to understand Scripture.

The only power I have is what Christ has given me in from the Holy Spirit and its nothing that isnt offered to you, all you have to do is cry out to Jesus for Salvation and you to can be Born Again and given the Holy Spirit. Once it is given to you by Grace thru Faith you will then be able to understand the Bible and walk in the Spirit and you will see why your previously ideals about the Bible are incorrect.

What little bit I thought I knew about the Bible before I was Born Again completely changed, in fact for the most part I thought the Bible was wrong, that Jesus was a Good Man and a Good Teacher but that the Bible itself was corrupted by men and incorrect in many areas, especially concerning Sin, Hell and the need for Repentance and Christ being the only way to get to Heaven. Once I was Born Again everything changed, and I knew my previous positions were all wrong...

I hope you come to know Christ as your Lord and Savior, if you do come talk to me and let me know if your perspective on the Bible, and The Way changes...
"I quoted Scripture, you didnt like it, why?"
I didn't post any issue with the verses you initially shared. Why would they bother me and why would you attempt to assign such a false narrative to me when I clearly addressed what I thought required addressing?
"I dont have some divine power to look into your mind, but are you going to tell me that what I said isnt True?"
Indeed. What you posted about me wasn't true and it still isn't. I didn't have any issue with the scripture you posted and tbh, that was the most meaningful part of your post imo.
"I mean it surely seems like you dont like what I have to say or what Scripture says"
I have no idea what part of your imagination you invented that convenient contention from. I haven't dissed what you have contended here and was prepared for a respectful dialog in which I might learn something. It appears that because I haven't immediately accepted what you are contending as 100% correct, you feel some sort of disrespect from me. That was never intended so perhaps its better if we dont engage here, at least on this topic.
 

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"I quoted Scripture, you didnt like it, why?"
I didn't post any issue with the verses you initially shared. Why would they bother me and why would you attempt to assign such a false narrative to me when I clearly addressed what I thought required addressing?
"I dont have some divine power to look into your mind, but are you going to tell me that what I said isnt True?"
Indeed. What you posted about me wasn't true and it still isn't. I didn't have any issue with the scripture you posted and tbh, that was the most meaningful part of your post imo.
"I mean it surely seems like you dont like what I have to say or what Scripture says"
I have no idea what part of your imagination you invented that convenient contention from. I haven't dissed what you have contended here and was prepared for a respectful dialog in which I might learn something. It appears that because I haven't immediately accepted what you are contending as 100% correct, you feel some sort of disrespect from me. That was never intended so perhaps its better if we dont engage here, at least on this topic.
I went back and re read the first post and I apologize I read it wrong and made assumptions that werent there to be made. I am sorry, it was wrong of me and I ask for your forgiveness.

If there is something you want to further discuss let me know, otherwise I understand, again I am sorry bro...
 

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I went back and re read the first post and I apologize I read it wrong and made assumptions that werent there to be made. I am sorry, it was wrong of me and I ask for your forgiveness.

If there is something you want to further discuss let me know, otherwise I understand, again I am sorry bro...
Its all good on this side and forgiveness is good for both of us so if I was out of line as well, I ask the same from you. Im glad we talked it out instead of digging in deeper because Id like to be involved w/what seems to be a fine discussion yall are having.
 

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Its all good on this side and forgiveness is good for both of us so if I was out of line as well, I ask the same from you. Im glad we talked it out instead of digging in deeper because Id like to be involved w/what seems to be a fine discussion yall are having.
You were fine bro, you said nothing ill, I was in the wrong.

The last thing I was speaking about was that it to me is disconcerting to see those who dont believe in Christ continually rallying around Todd and his Doctrine because as I had mentioned, the Bible tells us that those who havent been Born Again dont have the Spirit of God in them and thus can not truly Discern what the Bible is teaching.

It also mentions that the Gospel is offensive to the Natural Unregenerated man, so personally if I was out here preaching the Gospel and giving my perspective and many many Non Christians were constantly telling me that my version of the Gospel was what they most agreed with, but I wasnt seeing them Repenting and Crying out for Salvation, I would take a step back because that doesnt line up with what Scripture tells us about how Biblical Doctrine effects the Lost.

And I can attest to that myself, even now my Flesh doesnt like the Gospel, I still come under Conviction, but my Spirit loves the Gospel, I am thankful for Conviction, it brings my Flesh under Subjection and me closer to Christ.

I am not sure where else you would like to take the conversation but I am willing to continue if you would like...
 

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You were fine bro, you said nothing ill, I was in the wrong.

The last thing I was speaking about was that it to me is disconcerting to see those who dont believe in Christ continually rallying around Todd and his Doctrine because as I had mentioned, the Bible tells us that those who havent been Born Again dont have the Spirit of God in them and thus can not truly Discern what the Bible is teaching.

It also mentions that the Gospel is offensive to the Natural Unregenerated man, so personally if I was out here preaching the Gospel and giving my perspective and many many Non Christians were constantly telling me that my version of the Gospel was what they most agreed with, but I wasnt seeing them Repenting and Crying out for Salvation, I would take a step back because that doesnt line up with what Scripture tells us about how Biblical Doctrine effects the Lost.

And I can attest to that myself, even now my Flesh doesnt like the Gospel, I still come under Conviction, but my Spirit loves the Gospel, I am thankful for Conviction, it brings my Flesh under Subjection and me closer to Christ.

I am not sure where else you would like to take the conversation but I am willing to continue if you would like...
I think one of the most appealing aspects about The Way as described by Todd is that it allows for a cleaner, unencumbered implementation of Gospel law. For example, Christians could be encouraged to live as Jesus did in every aspect from dietary laws (no pork and etc) to being kind to each other. So much of Western Christianity has become engulfed by the bizarre racial identity politics of America in particular (not just blatant "white supremacist" groups but less provocative, yet still problematic general racial identity issues which arise). I admit that I would appreciate a fresh lens with which to view the life and example of Jesus!
 

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And I can attest to that myself, even now my Flesh doesnt like the Gospel, I still come under Conviction, but my Spirit loves the Gospel, I am thankful for Conviction, it brings my Flesh under Subjection and me closer to Christ.
Yes! I totally agree with this! The flesh does not usually like submitting to God’s ways. This is Christ’s gospel of picking up your cross. A deed or work that combined with faith brings growth and freedom from the power of sin!
 

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The last thing I was speaking about was that it to me is disconcerting to see those who dont believe in Christ continually rallying around Todd and his Doctrine because as I had mentioned, the Bible tells us that those who havent been Born Again dont have the Spirit of God in them and thus can not truly Discern what the Bible is teaching.
who is rallying around me that doesn’t believe in Christ?

It also mentions that the Gospel is offensive to the Natural Unregenerated man, so personally if I was out here preaching the Gospel and giving my perspective and many many Non Christians were constantly telling me that my version of the Gospel was what they most agreed with, but I wasnt seeing them Repenting and Crying out for Salvation, I would take a step back because that doesnt line up with what Scripture tells us about how Biblical Doctrine effects the Lost.
I agree with that! But your paradigm of what someone repenting and crying out for salvation looks like, isn’t necessarily the only correct expression of someone coming to faith in Christ.

The evidence of salvation is not in a credal profession but fruit of the spirit and love for God and others.

I too would be concerned if I never saw fruit in people who listened to and agreed with the gospel that I share. My personal experience (I acknowledge your mileage may vary) is that I see more fruit in those who believe in faith plus works, than those who profess faith alone.
 

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I think one of the most appealing aspects about The Way as described by Todd is that it allows for a cleaner, unencumbered implementation of Gospel law. For example, Christians could be encouraged to live as Jesus did in every aspect from dietary laws (no pork and etc) to being kind to each other.
So do you think we should be following the Law of Moses in its totality then? If so does that also include the need for Sacrificing for Atonement?

Would it also include the Law concerning not mixing fibers, or the way in which you must wear your hair and beard?

Would it also include the requirements concerning women menstruating and mold in your home?

How about the way in which we are to deal out punishment for Sin, such as stoning people to death for doing wrong?

I bring this up because you say live like Jesus did in every way and then list some of the Laws He kept from the Law of Moses and I would say that if you take this perspective then you would also have to follow ALL of the Law of Moses and live it as that is exactly what Christ did.

To be honest while I can understand to a degree that appeal to you, I would say that trying to do that would be anything but being unencumbered, it would actually be the opposite, it would be totally encumbering.

If you are looking for unencumbered implementation then I suggest learning more deeply what Christ actually has done for us concerning the Law and how we should live. If you would like me expand on this let me know...

So much of Western Christianity has become engulfed by the bizarre racial identity politics of America in particular (not just blatant "white supremacist" groups but less provocative, yet still problematic general racial identity issues which arise).
I dont think that Western Christianity has become some racial identity politics whatsoever, I believe that that is a lie the Mainstream media tries to feed people to cause division. If anything it is Non Christians and the Left that are the culprits for identity politics. You do realize that a massive amount of Black People are Christians correct?

Since this is the case then how can we lay identity politics concerning race at the feet of Christianity. Here is what the Bible says concerning race or identity politics:

Col 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

In light of these Scriptures how can one say that Christianity can be an avenue for Racial or Identity Politics. I would believe if anything people need to get back to THESE Scriptures in the situation you present concerning Politics...

I admit that I would appreciate a fresh lens with which to view the life and example of Jesus!
Amen, have you read the Bible for yourself? Spent any time studying it?

How about getting the Fresh Lens of the Holy Spirit by Repenting and Believing in Christ as your Lord and Savior!!
 

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I went back and re read the first post and I apologize I read it wrong and made assumptions that werent there to be made. I am sorry, it was wrong of me and I ask for your forgiveness.

If there is something you want to further discuss let me know, otherwise I understand, again I am sorry bro...
This is unrelated but I apologize to you @Daciple for going too far in arguing with you a while back and violating your privacy....... I apologize to you, hope you forgive what I did....... I was wrong

also you were totally right about Communism and I think you're one of the best writers on this forum
 

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@Daciple , since you are not aware of what I actually shared with @TempestOfTempo I have copied the PM I sent to him when he asked me about "The Way". I am sure you will not agree, and find something in my PM to "destroy" with your doctrine and dogma. However, I thought it would at least be fair for you to know what I actually shared with @TempestOfTempo that he said he found appealing, since your previous posts make a lot of incorrect assumptions about what I believe. Have at it...

Hi Tempest, I would be glad to. I'm not sure what thread you are referring to as I have posted about "The way" multiple times. No matter though.

The first Church in Jerusalem was lead by Peter, James and John and they were originally viewed as a new sect of the Hebrew faith. They followed closely the teachings of Jesus, but they were all Judeans who knew the Torah and the traditions of the Saducees and Pharisees. Jesus spoke often against the corrupt temple system, so although they followed the Torah, they had the revelation that Jesus was the lamb of God. They understood they no longer needed to pay the temple tax or buy animals form the temple market to present to the priests for an offering. They observed the Torah, absent of the traditions of men (teachings of the Pharisees, Saducees and Scribes) and the temple rituals that were fulfilled and perfected in the work of the Cross.

They still observed the 7 feasts of Israel, but with the revelation of how Jesus fulfilled the spring feasts in his earthly ministry and knowing that he would fulfill the fall feasts at his second coming. Through the Revelation that Peter received from God they soon learned that salvation was also for the Gentiles and they welcomed Gentiles into fellowship.

Because they rejected the corrupt temple system, they were persecuted by the elite religious leaders of Judea. Paul was a Pharisee that was trained in all the traditions of Jews. He was a Pharisee and he actively persecuted the followers of "The Way". When Paul experienced his "conversion" on the road to Damascus, he did not go to the leadership in Jerusalem to learn what the disciples, who walked with Jesus in the flesh, were teaching. I suspect like many of us his pendulum swung so far the other direction that he wanted nothing to do with following the Torah and that is why his writings contain such derogatory remarks regarding "the Law".

There is record in the Bible of much contention between Paul and the leadership in Jerusalem. The reality is that the tension between Paul and the disciples is never reconciled in the Bible. My best guess is that Peter, James and John remembered a few teachings of Jesus that discouraged them from outright rebuking or condemning Paul. First Paul was preaching Jesus crucified and risen as the Christ, so the disciples remembered what Jesus said in Luke 9:49-50
"Master," said John, "we saw a man driving out demons in your name and we tried to stop him, because he is not one of us."
"Do not stop him," Jesus said, "for whoever is not against you is for you."

So though Paul was not one of them, they did not feel the need to stop or oppose him directly. They simply tried to combat some of the teachings of Paul they did not necessarily agree with. I believe the book of James is a direct refute of some of the confusing conclusions that can be made from some of the writings of Paul.

Also Jesus' model of leadership was contrary to the world system of hierarchical leadership models so I suspect the disciples were not willing to condemn or place judgement on Paul after they attempted to reason with him. They did their best to encourage the Gentiles to follow the minimum requirements of the Torah and left it at that.

Eventually the Gentile believers that came to faith through the works of Paul were the first to be called "Christians". The Judean believers in Jerusalem and the gentiles who joined them were never referred to as "Christians". They were know as "The Way".

Of course we know that Christianity became the dominant religion and "The Way" seemed to fade into history with the decimation of Jerusalem in 70AD.

So does that make Christianity a false religion? It's difficult to say. From a technical standpoint I would say there is much wrong with Orthodox Christianity that is based more on the writings of Paul then the actual words of Jesus or the teaching of Peter, James and John. Whether Paul was a false teacher or just misguided doesn't really matter to me. Either way his letters (and their is no indication in Paul's letters that he believed he was penning the words of God) have certainly done exactly what Peter warned about in 2 Peter 3:16. They have brought much confusion and destruction to many Christians.

I see some great wisdom in some of the writings attributed to Paul. I do not disregard his writings completely, but when any conclusion drawn form his writings contradicts Jesus, Peter, James or John, I have to dismiss that conclusion.

As far as following the Torah, I admit I am still working through what all that means. Fist of all I thinkk the translation of the Torah as "Law" is misleading. The better translation is God's perfect guidance and instruction for living a holy life. I don't think God is looking to judge and sentence us by his law. His guidance and instruction is given to us as the path to receive his blessings and favor in this lifetime. If we don't follow them he can't guarantee the results we will receive. That is the reason I believe few Christians actually live a victorious life.

So how do we realistically follow God's perfect guidance and instruction? As a gentile there is much of the Torah that does not apply to me. The Torah contains civil, moral and ceremonial instruction. Since the true physical kingdom of Israel does not exist it is impossible to follow the civil law. Since the temple no longer exists it is impossible to follow the ceremonial rituals. That leaves the moral instruction...basically anything that applies to how we relate to our neighbor and God himself. Of course the ten commandments apply. Jesus himself summed up "the law" as Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength and love your neighbor as yourself.

So basically I believe anyway we can observe and see how the Torah applies to us personally we ought to do. So what about the dietary laws? I think there is value in following them, but I don't think God is condemning anyone who doesn't follow them perfectly. Remember those dietary rules were given to a nation that was trying to survive in very hostile conditions. God was giving them every possible advantage for them to succeed. I guess my stance is if you are complaining about your health but not trying to follow the essence of God's dietary instruction, it's more on you than God.

I personally have stopped eating shelfish and drastically reduced the amount of pork I eat. (Yeah I still have a weak spot for bacon). The reality today is that processed foods and refined sugar probably have a more detrimental effect on our health than pork. But back in the OT times pork was probably the most unhealthy type of food to eat for the Hebrews.

Bottom line is I don't think God expects us to give up the common sense he gave us. Wisdom and the leading of the holy spirit will lead us to things that God wants the most for us. I believe Jesus summed it up best with Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, strength and mind and love your neighbor as yourself. Sin is simply anything that is contrary to God's will or against his guidance and instruction for living.

To clarify we are not able to follow God's guidance and instruction in our own ability. It's only by the grace that comes in trusting in the ransom that Jesus paid to set us free from the power of sin. Contrary to what most Christians believe, Jesus did not die on the cross to save us from the eternal punishment for our sins. He dies to set us free from the power of sin (hence the ransom) in our lives in this present age. Avoiding chastisement in the ages to come is certainly a perk of our faith, but the true purpose of Christ's work on the cross is set us free form the power of sin in the here and now.

So obviously this is a "macro" view of all of this. I do not in anyway think I have arrived in a complete understanding of "the Way" and my faith is still evolving and growing. If you have certain topics you want to delve into specifics, please let me know. If you ask something I don't yet know how to answer we can explore and believe God to guide us together if you are interested.

God bless you!
Todd
 

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So do you think we should be following the Law of Moses in its totality then? If so does that also include the need for Sacrificing for Atonement?

Would it also include the Law concerning not mixing fibers, or the way in which you must wear your hair and beard?

Would it also include the requirements concerning women menstruating and mold in your home?

How about the way in which we are to deal out punishment for Sin, such as stoning people to death for doing wrong?

I bring this up because you say live like Jesus did in every way and then list some of the Laws He kept from the Law of Moses and I would say that if you take this perspective then you would also have to follow ALL of the Law of Moses and live it as that is exactly what Christ did.

To be honest while I can understand to a degree that appeal to you, I would say that trying to do that would be anything but being unencumbered, it would actually be the opposite, it would be totally encumbering.

If you are looking for unencumbered implementation then I suggest learning more deeply what Christ actually has done for us concerning the Law and how we should live. If you would like me expand on this let me know...



I dont think that Western Christianity has become some racial identity politics whatsoever, I believe that that is a lie the Mainstream media tries to feed people to cause division. If anything it is Non Christians and the Left that are the culprits for identity politics. You do realize that a massive amount of Black People are Christians correct?

Since this is the case then how can we lay identity politics concerning race at the feet of Christianity. Here is what the Bible says concerning race or identity politics:

Col 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

In light of these Scriptures how can one say that Christianity can be an avenue for Racial or Identity Politics. I would believe if anything people need to get back to THESE Scriptures in the situation you present concerning Politics...



Amen, have you read the Bible for yourself? Spent any time studying it?

How about getting the Fresh Lens of the Holy Spirit by Repenting and Believing in Christ as your Lord and Savior!!
There is a lot to digest in this post. Not ignoring it, but will reply when I have time to fully address what you have shared here. Thank you.
 

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This is unrelated but I apologize to you @Daciple for going too far in arguing with you a while back and violating your privacy....... I apologize to you, hope you forgive what I did....... I was wrong

also you were totally right about Communism and I think you're one of the best writers on this forum
Its ok brother, I forgave you long ago, in fact I should have used it to post more videos but I have been busy and honestly havent been following God in that aspect, I hope one day to start making more and sharing them.

Love you man!!
 

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Its ok brother, I forgave you long ago, in fact I should have used it to post more videos but I have been busy and honestly havent been following God in that aspect, I hope one day to start making more and sharing them.

Love you man!!
Thank you!!

Yes, I wish nothing but good for you and your mission. You have a passion and I encourage you to pursue it.
 

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@Daciple , since you are not aware of what I actually shared with @TempestOfTempo I have copied the PM I sent to him when he asked me about "The Way". I am sure you will not agree, and find something in my PM to "destroy" with your doctrine and dogma. However, I thought it would at least be fair for you to know what I actually shared with @TempestOfTempo that he said he found appealing, since your previous posts make a lot of incorrect assumptions about what I believe. Have at it...
You are right, I didnt know you sent this PM to him, I was going off of the Doctrine you have espoused publicly of which much of that you have stated to all of us. However I dont see a need for me to rebut this unless Tempest would like me to, otherwise that message was between you and him. Of course most of what you wrote to him I disagree with, but unless he wants me to rebut it, that was for him...
 

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You are right, I didnt know you sent this PM to him, I was going off of the Doctrine you have espoused publicly of which much of that you have stated to all of us. However I dont see a need for me to rebut this unless Tempest would like me to, otherwise that message was between you and him. Of course most of what you wrote to him I disagree with, but unless he wants me to rebut it, that was for him...
Understood. Please stop making incorrect assumptions about what I believe in the future though. If you are not sure what I actually believe about something specific, just ask before making remarks assuming you do. Thanks!
 

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So do you think we should be following the Law of Moses in its totality then? If so does that also include the need for Sacrificing for Atonement?

Would it also include the Law concerning not mixing fibers, or the way in which you must wear your hair and beard?

Would it also include the requirements concerning women menstruating and mold in your home?

How about the way in which we are to deal out punishment for Sin, such as stoning people to death for doing wrong?

I bring this up because you say live like Jesus did in every way and then list some of the Laws He kept from the Law of Moses and I would say that if you take this perspective then you would also have to follow ALL of the Law of Moses and live it as that is exactly what Christ did.

To be honest while I can understand to a degree that appeal to you, I would say that trying to do that would be anything but being unencumbered, it would actually be the opposite, it would be totally encumbering.

If you are looking for unencumbered implementation then I suggest learning more deeply what Christ actually has done for us concerning the Law and how we should live. If you would like me expand on this let me know...



I dont think that Western Christianity has become some racial identity politics whatsoever, I believe that that is a lie the Mainstream media tries to feed people to cause division. If anything it is Non Christians and the Left that are the culprits for identity politics. You do realize that a massive amount of Black People are Christians correct?

Since this is the case then how can we lay identity politics concerning race at the feet of Christianity. Here is what the Bible says concerning race or identity politics:

Col 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

In light of these Scriptures how can one say that Christianity can be an avenue for Racial or Identity Politics. I would believe if anything people need to get back to THESE Scriptures in the situation you present concerning Politics...



Amen, have you read the Bible for yourself? Spent any time studying it?

How about getting the Fresh Lens of the Holy Spirit by Repenting and Believing in Christ as your Lord and Savior!!
I think the first part for me would be to clarify what Jesus actually ate. I know it sounds trivial to some, and I also realize that many Christians eat pork, shellfish and etc. Im not judging them, just wondering for my own knowledge how I could look at the example Jesus gave in a comprehensive fashion.... how his example could help people (especially me lol) be healthier in mind, body & spirit.

I hope this doesn't seem insignificant, but its an important question I have wondered about for a long time.
 
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http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/michele-bachmann-we-will-never-see-a-more-godly-biblical-president-than-trump/

“In my lifetime I have never seen a more biblical president than I have seen in Donald Trump,” Bachmann said later in the program. “He is highly biblical and I would say to your listeners [that] we will, in all likelihood, never see a more godly, biblical president again in our lifetime. So we need to be not only praying for him, we need to support him, in my opinion, in every possible way that we can.”

Lol this is madness
 

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http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/michele-bachmann-we-will-never-see-a-more-godly-biblical-president-than-trump/

“In my lifetime I have never seen a more biblical president than I have seen in Donald Trump,” Bachmann said later in the program. “He is highly biblical and I would say to your listeners [that] we will, in all likelihood, never see a more godly, biblical president again in our lifetime. So we need to be not only praying for him, we need to support him, in my opinion, in every possible way that we can.”

Lol this is madness
Umm, yeah, Bachmann is a moron.
 
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