Trumped

[justjess]

so you are saying that the NWO does stupid things? the NWO controls the democrats (and the GOP). if you say that the NWO threw the election, then we agree that russia had essentially nothing to do with rigging it (especially when soros and co. own the voting machine corporations and the votes are always rigged, back at LEAST since the diebold machines). if you are right that everyone hates hillary, then why were the polling numbers so skewed in her favor (80 or 90+% chance to win)? why even have such a charade when they can start idolizing trump in the MSM and support him so he can do all the evil, corrupt things he is supposed to do? after all, its the dems who are blocking his agenda. if the dems were suppressed and pooh-poohed by the MSM in a propaganda war, trump would have an easier time being the authoritarian dictator he is supposed to be. this is not what we are seeing. the end goal is, after all, a police state. why would the NWO-backed MSM block trump from fulfilling this?

I don’t think me and you see eye to eye on what an nwo is... it’s not some evil cabal of devil worshippers imo, it’s greedy ass rich folk manipulating shit to benefit themselves. Putin is not excluded, he’s massively rich and his beef with the West is generally about them stopping him from getting even more so. Are there different factions of rich people with different end goals sure, but they all share in common the desire to screw us regular people over. Trump and Putin there way apparently, Hilary and whoever THERES.

We aren’t any less screwed because one faction of greedy rich asshole took power over another. We are just differently screwed.

 

[A.J.]

Trump is doing everything they could have wanted, I understand a lot of you are desperate for a "win" but you got conned by the con man.

We are screwed regardless, I don't expect anything good out of Trump..... We are way too far gone....the media and the deep state are setting the agenda....and Trump is ultimately a joke

 

[A.J.]

Trump won because he was the man used to polarize the nation. He is just there to divide you (like saying the media is the enemy of the people, which is what dictators often say to avoid any kind of free exchange of ideas.....

The media, lolololol..... They get a script and they read it...

I still think people are giving trump too much credit....he's winging it....

 

[Helioform]

The media, lolololol..... They get a script and they read it...

I still think people are giving trump too much credit....he's winging it....

They always have the choice of not reading the script though. The more Trump attacks them, the more indignant they will become anyway so it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

 

[A.J.]

The media and the democrat party in conjunction with the deep state robbed you guys of Bernie Sanders, and you're worried about russian collusion & trump jr.? Who are the deceived ones here? Check out Ben Shapiro, he testifies that trump is essentially winging it.... The reason trump got through is cause hill, media & the deep state believed he was most beatable & manipulatible.... Trump is no evil genuis, he's a defiant businessmen with arrogance and ego larger than the ozone...he's no savior, he's no satan.... He's comic relief

 

[A.J.]

They always have the choice of not reading the script though. The more Trump attacks them, the more indignant they will become anyway so it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

What???? The media is owned and controlled.... Why do you think CIAs finest James Clapper & Jon Brennan have platforms.... Trump is just an abrasive, belligerent dope going rogue as far as presidential protocols are concerned.... It does not matter who is president at this point...watch the video....
P.S. they accused Sanders of the same stuff they are pinning on Trump, and Clinton is more guilty than either of them....Clinton & Obama did business with and empowered russia more than anyone....

 

[Helioform]

What???? The media is owned and controlled.... Why do you think CIAs finest James Clapper & Jon Brennan have platforms.... Trump is just an abrasive, belligerent dope going rogue as far as presidential protocols are concerned.... It does not matter whose president at this point...watch the video

Yes but Trump hates them just because they point out his lies constantly. Not because they are controlled. Trump couldn't give a rat's ass about the CIA or even the NSA he is even helping making the swamp worse when he said that he would drain it.

 

[Futility]

Yes but Trump hates them just because they point out his lies constantly. Not because they are controlled. Trump couldn't give a rat's ass about the CIA or even the NSA he is even helping making the swamp worse when he said that he would drain it.

Lol yeah Haspel, Bolton, etc he found the worst snakes and Gators in the swamps and gave them jobs lol

 

[Helioform]

I highly recommend reading this article because it sums up pretty much what Trump is: (a somewhat deranged dictator wannabe, to put it mildly)

https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2018/06/12/Trump-Lies-Tyranny/

 

[UnderAlienControl]

and also the corps who are buying back their own stocks.

They had a chance to do the right thing with the money and here's the proof that a corporation will always value profits over people. That discussion is now closed. Citizens United made them people, but you can't make them patriotic or capable of any empathy. So basically if a corporation is a person then that "person" is a Sociopath...

 

[The Zone]

In some twisted way, I wish Clinton had won to see what people would be complaining about in that world. An opinion article is nothing more than a spin. The truth is in the middle with the centrist that use common sense and are liquid. Anyhow, some swear they are not batting left only to come to home plate that way every inning.

 

[UnderAlienControl]

Clinton had won to see what people would be complaining about in that world.

You wouldn't be able to. The emp from the nukes woulda took care of that ability...

 

[Helioform]

Anyhow, some swear they are not batting left only to come to home plate that way every inning.

There you are playing the leftist baiting again. You take all criticism of Trump as being a leftist strategy when you don't even see that we are doing that because he is the current president and not because we prefer Hillary. I rarely see, if ever, the right criticize Trump in any way. He is running the US into the ground big time and you keep yapping about leftists everywhere on this forum. That is your spin. Open your effing eyes and stop trying to bait people with your empty rethoric.

 

[The Zone]

There you are playing the leftist baiting again. You take all criticism of Trump as being a leftist strategy when you don't even see that we are doing that because he is the current president and not because we prefer Hillary. I rarely see, if ever, the right criticize Trump in any way. He is running the US into the ground big time and you keep yapping about leftists everywhere on this forum. That is your spin. Open your effing eyes and stop trying to bait people with your empty rethoric.

No, I take articles from a source which is an opinion piece as being tainted be they for or against Trump. Opinion is the key word here.

Calm down, it was just an observation and mild sarcasm. And you yourself seem okay with sarcasm as long as it does not involve you per a recent comment. Perhaps now we can agree that baiting people for their assumed views is in poor taste as was done to another poster?

Either you labeled me right again despite my numerous and expanded explanations that I am a liquid centrist, or you inferred that the right in Congress do not criticize him which makes me wonder how you've seen no criticism within a party. Most of the people who like or tolerate Trump here is because it thwarted Hillary and slowed the PC movement which is over the top.

So, for the sake of discussion tell all how Donald Trump is running the US into the ground big time as you put it. Maybe, you have noticed that you accuse me and others of not saying anything bad about Trump, when that is not true, while I ask you to realize you say nothing good about him or his policies. That is partisanship which means favor of a certain cause.

Just seeking discussion.

 

[Helioform]

No, I take articles from a source which is an opinion piece as being tainted be they for or against Trump. Opinion is the key word here.

You say it's just an opinion, and that it's "tainted" just because it lays out certain facts, that you don't even try to address. You don't even try to discuss some of it again you just say it must be wrong because it's "tainted". Same old deflection tactic.

Calm down, it was just an observation and mild sarcasm. And you yourself seem okay with sarcasm as long as it does not involve you per a recent comment. Perhaps now we can agree that baiting people for their assumed views is in poor taste as was done to another poster?

Either you labeled me right again despite my numerous and expanded explanations that I am a liquid centrist, or you inferred that the right in Congress do not criticize him which makes me wonder if you watched the election closely.

You play the right-left red herring card everytime I point out certain things that makes you uncomfortable.

And you said in another thread that you sided with rightists, so no you are most definitely not a "centrist." You just try to make yourself look like one while taking cheap shots at people you view on the other side of the spectrum.

So, for the sake of discussion tell all how Donald Trump is running the US into the ground big time as you put it. Maybe, you have noticed that you accuse me and others of not saying anything bad about Trump, when that is not true, while I ask you to realize you say nothing good about him. That is partisanship which means favor of a certain cause.

Show me a thread where you were ever truly critical of him and I will go back on what I said. And I never say anything good about him because there is nothing good to say at all when you know enough about him. He is just worse than a regular politician. I have explained exactly how he is running the US into the ground so you are deflecting again or have reading comprehension problems.

 

[The Zone]

Don't worry, I can easily bring up critical comments when I get off work. Some of us do work and I have a press conference to attend today in the real world. No, you have not explained how he is running the US into the ground and my bet is you are not even living in said US for you do not realize the simple fact that at least half the people here feel differently. You avoided most of my questions pertaining to that.

Instead of making this about me, let's discuss the actual issues and the same goes for the 5G thread. You carry over every conversation and bristle at the slightest bit of, well, you enter the words here. And.... why do I need to read every opinion piece and address it? Who has that kind of time? If I recognize it as yet another opinion piece on sites which lean a certain, should I consider it to be objective?

 

[justjess]

1) giving military even more money
2) giving corporations even more money by decreasing their taxes - taking from the regular people to give to the rich
4) giving the ultra rich even more money by decreasing their taxes - taking from the request people to give to the rich
5) funding all of this by attacking and dismantling the already meager safety net this country had for the poor and working poor


Maybe since your going to a press release today your in a tax bracket where you personally benefit from this, idk. But the majority of the country is already hurting and the real pain from these changes won’t be felt til years down the line when the gop can easily blame whatever schmuck happens to be in office at the time.

 

[Helioform]

No, you have not explained how he is running the US into the ground

Yes I did, go read my previous posts on this thread.

 

[Awoken2]

I am a liquid centrist

....ermmm what's one
of them then? ... is it somebody who is in perpetual motion between good and bad and right and wrong?....Bit like a Free Mason with their polarity thing?

...sounds dead cool anyway

 

[Helioform]

1) giving military even more money
2) giving corporations even more money by decreasing their taxes - taking from the regular people to give to the rich
4) giving the ultra rich even more money by decreasing their taxes - taking from the request people to give to the rich
5) funding all of this by attacking and dismantling the already meager safety net this country had for the poor and working poor


Maybe since your going to a press release today your in a tax bracket where you personally benefit from this, idk. But the majority of the country is already hurting and the real pain from these changes won’t be felt til years down the line when the gop can easily blame whatever schmuck happens to be in office at the time.

6) Just helped and made it even more likely that the stock market will crash big time and 50% of americans will lose their 401k.