Will 2020 Election Result in Civil War 2.0?

Will 2020 Election Result in Civil War 2.0?

  • Yes, I think so.

    Votes: 33 47.1%
  • No, I don't think so.

    Votes: 18 25.7%
  • I'm not sure / I have no idea

    Votes: 12 17.1%
  • I don't care.

    Votes: 7 10.0%

  • Total voters
    70

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The "south" both politicians as well as general populace, has never really forgiven or forgotten how they lost to the "progressive" "northerners".

There has been a political and social conflict in America ever since the Civil War. The differences have never really been resolved and we witness it day in day out with the non stop "culture wars" that have been taking place ever since.

America has always been in a very low intensity civil conflict, mainly around these political and cultural battles, with recent spikes in violence surrounding these differences.

The civil war fought largely over America's original sin of slavery, still rages today with the residue of such a horrific past still haunting the current landscape. From civil rights movement to BLM, the same conflict largely over race and inequality continues.

The spirit of the slave owning confederates is alive and well in Donald Trumps Republican party.
Sorry to disabuse you of your terrible education in History, but the slave owning confederates were Democrats. Abraham Lincoln was the first Republican president. After the war, the continued segregation, poll taxes on blacks (to prevent them from voting), oppression, lynching and burning were all perpetrated by Dixiecrats, all the way up to Huey fkng Long in the 1930's.

The "plantation" mentality that continues to this day is a main plank of the platform of, you guessed it, the Blue Team. Ask any black Republican why they are republican, and they will make it very clear, that despite the Dems claims to be "all about civil rights," that is merely a convenient sales pitch. Kennedy had an uphill battle doing what he thought was the right thing in his own party, and had to be extremely circumspect in dealing with MLK and other activists. Johnson was worried that his follow-through on the Civil Rights Act was going to backfire on the Dem party for the long term. Today's party thinks Black Americans "owe" them their vote, since they've hooked up multiple generations with welfare benefits and obama added free fkng cell phones. Biden as much as admitted it with the comment "If you don't vote for me, you ain't black."

The fact that you actually believe the flimsy lies that Trump, or anything but a tiny minority of his followers, are racist, just proves how frigging gullible you are. The Dems say that about Every. Single. White. Republican. Candidate. It's their go-to sales pitch. Meanwhile, we've got Ben Carson, Tim Scott, Allen West, Michelle Malkin, Candace Owens, and several Black Republican candidates for the House proving it to be a lie.
 

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I think our melanin people lol will bring Africa to America.


Welcome to the jungle.
 
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Sorry to disabuse you of your terrible education in History, but the slave owning confederates were Democrats. Abraham Lincoln was the first Republican president. After the war, the continued segregation, poll taxes on blacks (to prevent them from voting), oppression, lynching and burning were all perpetrated by Dixiecrats, all the way up to Huey fkng Long in the 1930's.
LOL. What do you think you can watch a Ben Shapiro video and pull this silly trick ?

The Democrats that owned slaves, pushed segregation, pushed voter suppression and carried out lynchings and burnings WERE ALL RIGHT WINGERS. Did you just so happen to forget that little inconvenience to your worthless dribble ? I guess a books cover is more important to you that its actual contents ?

Who are the right wingers today ? Yes you guessed it, "team red"

I'm glad you mentioned the Democrats and their voter suppression back in the day, well who TODAY is doing the voter suppression. Yes that would be "team red"

The Democrats BACK IN THE DAY ran the south, because the South culturally was aligned with the Confederates and their racist policies, TODAY the South is aligned with the Republicans, because they took over those values. There was a thing called the political realignment.

Funny that back in the day, the racists were all Democrats, today they are pretty much all Republican. There is no coincidence there.

The "plantation" mentality that continues to this day is a main plank of the platform of, you guessed it, the Blue Team
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Dude go easy on the Candace Owens propaganda. Bad for your brain.

Ask any black Republican why they are republican, and they will make it very clear,
50 cent said, he wanted to vote Trump because of his MONEY. The only black repubs are usually selfish rich fucks, like any other rich Republican, either that or a fake Christian like one of my uncles. It isn't some great secret that they discovered.

There are only 3 reasons to vote Republican. The 3 Rs of Republican voters.

RICH, RACIST, RETARDED

my uncle unfortunately is number 3. Any so called Christian who would vote for Trump is retarded.

that despite the Dems claims to be "all about civil rights," that is merely a convenient sales pitch. Kennedy had an uphill battle doing what he thought was the right thing in his own party, and had to be extremely circumspect in dealing with MLK and other activists. Johnson was worried that his follow-through on the Civil Rights Act was going to backfire on the Dem party for the long term
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Yes it is mostly a sales pitch from the Dems, but its still a lot more than what the Repubs offer. While the more progressive Democrats were pushing civil rights, the Repubs were mostly opposing it. From Goldwater onwards the Repubs were basically an anti-black party, and have been ever since.
Today's party thinks Black Americans "owe" them their vote, since they've hooked up multiple generations with welfare benefits and obama added free fkng cell phones. Biden as much as admitted it with the comment "If you don't vote for me, you ain't black."
nice reactionary talking points. Welfare, welfare, welfare. Blacks vote Dems because Repubs are actively ANTI-BLACK. It isn't some big secret as to why blacks to vote Repubs. Why would you vote for a party that is racist towards you ? Unless you have something financial to gain, or unless you are just stupid.
The fact that you actually believe the flimsy lies that Trump, or anything but a tiny minority of his followers, are racist, just proves how frigging gullible you are.
Like I said, if you support Trump or any other Republican you are either RICH, RACIST, OR RETARDED.

There really is no other possible reason, and yes a very sizeable amount of Trump supporters are racist, you'd be foolish to think otherwise, when Trump has done so many racist dog whistles and made so many outrageously racist comments, and he built his popularity by causing hatred and division towards muslims, mexicans, and other minorities. You may comfort yourself by telling yourself this isn't reality, but unfortunately it is.

The Dems say that about Every. Single. White. Republican. Candidate. It's their go-to sales pitch. Meanwhile, we've got Ben Carson, Tim Scott, Allen West, Michelle Malkin, Candace Owens, and several Black Republican candidates for the House proving it to be a lie.
LOL So you have a bunch of uncle Toms and all of a sudden you aint racist. What a fricking joke. The whole Republican game plan is a disgusting show of identity politics.

Get the black people to say a bunch of dumb and racist shit THAT WE ARE THINKING then nobody can call us racist because those black people said it. Do you really think people are that stupid to fall for such "basic bitch" tactics ?
 

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I'm interested in why the concept of civil war has been planted through alt-media, and recently even mainstream sources, the last year. It's stunning the amount of authors prepping us for it. The billionaire class either wants fights in the streets or anxiety about such things.

Americans are too fat, lazy, and apathetic to actually engage in a fight over ideology. Our daily propaganda tells us we're under threat from "radical extremists" from the right and left, but these are both very small, nearly insignificant groups.

Just like "election chaos/fraud" these memes are sent out by military intelligence to disrupt our thought process.
I’ve been pondering the same thing but for me I was asking myself why it was everywhere in MSM. In alt-media anything goes so it wasn’t much of a concern popping up there. True, part of the discourse originated because of the Floyd aftermath.

I became suspicious after seeing TIP and their war gaming so widely reported on in MSM that I figured there is something else going on that isn’t being purposely reported. You don’t publicize your war strategy like that. If many entities tried to keep a lid on the Hunter Biden story, they sure could have lent a hand in hushing up this democratic plan.

So a civil war happens, then what? How has the billionaire class prepared to seize the moment? What I notice being done is that all the articles talking about election violence or a civil war are mute on the aftermath and the changes that might/will be introduced. But they drop hints….little bits and pieces that once gathered up and using history as a guide altogether paint a picture of what the aftermath will look like. To me, Rosa Brooks’ work is a real good clue (I’ll start a thread on something). I don’t believe she lay in bed one night, stared up at the ceiling and decided to form her organization.

Imagine if the PNAC document had been widely publicized circa 2000 or early 2001. Yes, it called for a new Pearl Harbor but I imagine everyone reading it wouldn’t have envisioned the NDAA, DHS or the Patriot Act (which according to Ron Paul, was written years earlier and was shelved, awaiting an event like 9/11). So we shouldn’t expect (if anything happens) anything less than 9/11’s aftermath.

Which is why I believe that a very transformative event is planned and that the America that is going emerge is going to be very different from the one people knew in 2019.

If you’re wondering if military intelligence seeded it alt-media and why, It’s very probable that “they” want consent/complicity. Think of all the people who attended pro-war rallies back in 2002/2003 or at the present time who have and still support lockdowns….it doesn’t matter if you were lied to or not, you become complicit in the demise of your own country. See my post here
CAUTION: This one originates from the Mike Adams/Alex Jones known shill Group...

Retired Army Officers Echo Dem Coup: Military Must Forcibly Remove Trump If He Loses Election

8/12/2020

I first read about the 2 retired military dudes’ letter to Gen.Milley here,
so it’s not something emanating from Alex Jones/Mike Adams. The former have been criticized as being over the top, a tad paranoid as you can see in their letter but this particular line screamed at me;

"Due to a dangerous confluence of circumstances, the once-unthinkable scenario of authoritarian rule in the United States is now a very real possibility."

It’s become increasingly obvious in the last months that this is what TPTB want for America. So we should expect a VERY transformative event to usher in this authoritarianism…possibly to remain in a semi-permanent form. Come to think of it, before a war happens, MSM aggressively sells it to the public and all they have been consumed with in the last 12mths (if we to go back to TIP’s formation in Nov 2019) is the homeland becoming a battlefield supposedly over the election results. I’ve been thinking again about the Jussie Smollett scandal…was it a dry run? Why didn’t “they” wait for 2020 to pull it off?
New York Times Publishes Treasonous Op/Ed Calling for United Nations Takeover of United States

With articles such as these ^^

…I believe parts of it (methods to deal with the situation) is meant for deflection. I still believe there won’t be foreign troops on CONUS at the present time. I mean, think about it for a second, if things came to ahead would Trump honestly ask the UN to intervene? Everyone knows he wouldn’t do something like that and that atleast before he asks the UN, he would have engaged NATO. But McConville gave the allies some reassurances so we shouldn’t expect them showing up/intervening either.

It seems to me that such NYT pieces are meant to get the public to choose, before hand, what authoritarianism they are comfortable with….foreign or domestic.
 

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I'm interested in why the concept of civil war has been planted through alt-media, and recently even mainstream sources, the last year. It's stunning the amount of authors prepping us for it.
I've just seen this....the little hints are there....

"Academic experts on the radical right have raised “alarm” that the US could see a “rapid" rise in right-wing extremism and domestic terrorism following the 2020 presidential election.

In an open letter sent to The Independent, 17 specialists on radical right discourse warn that “anti-democratic methods will become normalised in pursuit of still darker, radical-right agendas.”


Do these 17 specialists care to explain what exactly those "anti-democratic methods" are/will be? Ofcourse they conveniently don't say. Is it Patriot Act 10.0? Another department?
I've posted this article before but when i first read it, i found the paragraph concluding the article VERY curious.

Federalizing most local police departments surely would be complicated and messy — but likely not as difficult as creating an entirely new cabinet department in less than two years, as the Federal Government did with the Department of Homeland Security, in response to the September 11 attacks.
(i think i should quickly put together the thread i promised :)
 

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I've just seen this....the little hints are there....

"Academic experts on the radical right have raised “alarm” that the US could see a “rapid" rise in right-wing extremism and domestic terrorism following the 2020 presidential election.

In an open letter sent to The Independent, 17 specialists on radical right discourse warn that “anti-democratic methods will become normalised in pursuit of still darker, radical-right agendas.”


Do these 17 specialists care to explain what exactly those "anti-democratic methods" are/will be? Ofcourse they conveniently don't say. Is it Patriot Act 10.0? Another department?
I've posted this article before but when i first read it, i found the paragraph concluding the article VERY curious.

Federalizing most local police departments surely would be complicated and messy — but likely not as difficult as creating an entirely new cabinet department in less than two years, as the Federal Government did with the Department of Homeland Security, in response to the September 11 attacks.
(i think i should quickly put together the thread i promised :)
Again you're on the exact train of thought that Webb has articulated. I almost thought these videos deserved their own thread but whoever's meant to see them will:

Election Special: 2020 Election Chaos and the "New 9/11"



Show notes: https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/election-special-pre-planned-2020-election-chaos-and-the-new-9-11/

I listened to 1/2 of part one, she and Ryan basically help explain her writing about the Cybereason led simulation Operation Blackout. What's interesting there is that the mock hacker attempts weren't aimed at electronic voting software, but at local infrastructure like 911 call centers, traffic lights, and self driving vehicles.

What really ties into your speculation is the discussion of the statements from a DHS representative in a House committee on intelligence and counter-terrorism back in March:

Extremism Building to the Doorstep of Another 9/11, DHS Official tells Committee in Anti-Semitism Hearing

Many of the subjects we talk about are combining into a single direction. Israeli tech domination, internet censorship, war in the middle east... we can read the tea leaves by the messages they're putting out to us.
 
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No, unless you count the culture war. They'll be unrest, riots, whatever... But a full on civil war? No.
There definately wont be a civil war in the sense of 2 armies fighting one another.

However I do see mass unrest, chaos, terrorist attacks, and a possible insurgency from militant groups.

I have long speculated that the right wing militia movement is the last card that the fascists have to play if and when they lose complete control of the government to the liberal elite faction.
 

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I'm interested in why the concept of civil war has been planted through alt-media, and recently even mainstream sources, the last year. It's stunning the amount of authors prepping us for it. The billionaire class either wants fights in the streets or anxiety about such things.

Americans are too fat, lazy, and apathetic to actually engage in a fight over ideology. Our daily propaganda tells us we're under threat from "radical extremists" from the right and left, but these are both very small, nearly insignificant groups.

Just like "election chaos/fraud" these memes are sent out by military intelligence to disrupt our thought process.
Exactly - why have they done this. And very few stop to question it.
They want a civil war in America, and they know very few will question the reasons as to why it's happening.
Just like the first Civil Ware there.
 
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Exactly - why have they done this. And very few stop to question it.
They want a civil war in America, and they know very few will question the reasons as to why it's happening.
Just like the first Civil Ware there.
divide and conquer.

The elites have been doing this for ages. The general public must be divided against one another or else they will be unified against the elites.
 

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I’ve been pondering the same thing but for me I was asking myself why it was everywhere in MSM. In alt-media anything goes so it wasn’t much of a concern popping up there. True, part of the discourse originated because of the Floyd aftermath.

I became suspicious after seeing TIP and their war gaming so widely reported on in MSM that I figured there is something else going on that isn’t being purposely reported. You don’t publicize your war strategy like that. If many entities tried to keep a lid on the Hunter Biden story, they sure could have lent a hand in hushing up this democratic plan.

So a civil war happens, then what? How has the billionaire class prepared to seize the moment? What I notice being done is that all the articles talking about election violence or a civil war are mute on the aftermath and the changes that might/will be introduced. But they drop hints….little bits and pieces that once gathered up and using history as a guide altogether paint a picture of what the aftermath will look like. To me, Rosa Brooks’ work is a real good clue (I’ll start a thread on something). I don’t believe she lay in bed one night, stared up at the ceiling and decided to form her organization.

Imagine if the PNAC document had been widely publicized circa 2000 or early 2001. Yes, it called for a new Pearl Harbor but I imagine everyone reading it wouldn’t have envisioned the NDAA, DHS or the Patriot Act (which according to Ron Paul, was written years earlier and was shelved, awaiting an event like 9/11). So we shouldn’t expect (if anything happens) anything less than 9/11’s aftermath.

Which is why I believe that a very transformative event is planned and that the America that is going emerge is going to be very different from the one people knew in 2019.

If you’re wondering if military intelligence seeded it alt-media and why, It’s very probable that “they” want consent/complicity. Think of all the people who attended pro-war rallies back in 2002/2003 or at the present time who have and still support lockdowns….it doesn’t matter if you were lied to or not, you become complicit in the demise of your own country. See my post here

I first read about the 2 retired military dudes’ letter to Gen.Milley here,
so it’s not something emanating from Alex Jones/Mike Adams. The former have been criticized as being over the top, a tad paranoid as you can see in their letter but this particular line screamed at me;

"Due to a dangerous confluence of circumstances, the once-unthinkable scenario of authoritarian rule in the United States is now a very real possibility."

It’s become increasingly obvious in the last months that this is what TPTB want for America. So we should expect a VERY transformative event to usher in this authoritarianism…possibly to remain in a semi-permanent form. Come to think of it, before a war happens, MSM aggressively sells it to the public and all they have been consumed with in the last 12mths (if we to go back to TIP’s formation in Nov 2019) is the homeland becoming a battlefield supposedly over the election results. I’ve been thinking again about the Jussie Smollett scandal…was it a dry run? Why didn’t “they” wait for 2020 to pull it off?

With articles such as these ^^

…I believe parts of it (methods to deal with the situation) is meant for deflection. I still believe there won’t be foreign troops on CONUS at the present time. I mean, think about it for a second, if things came to ahead would Trump honestly ask the UN to intervene? Everyone knows he wouldn’t do something like that and that atleast before he asks the UN, he would have engaged NATO. But McConville gave the allies some reassurances so we shouldn’t expect them showing up/intervening either.

It seems to me that such NYT pieces are meant to get the public to choose, before hand, what authoritarianism they are comfortable with….foreign or domestic.
Some great observations. Obviously you've been paying close attention.

I believe the PNAC document "Pear Harbor" event you referred to was as the Illuminati cockroaches so lovingly want us to call it, "911". (A extremely powerful satanic number, according to the cockroaches).

Then, once America is psychologically co-opted, the can fan the flames of Civil War 2.0 in America, until it is so occupied with the same that they can go on with their third part of their plan, "Total Spectrum Dominance", (their words, not mine). My words: The final implementation of the NWO satanic Global Government System. In with the new and out with the old. That's what I believe we are seeing now.
 

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Again you're on the exact train of thought that Webb has articulated. I almost thought these videos deserved their own thread but whoever's meant to see them will:

Election Special: 2020 Election Chaos and the "New 9/11"



Show notes: https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/election-special-pre-planned-2020-election-chaos-and-the-new-9-11/

I listened to 1/2 of part one, she and Ryan basically help explain her writing about the Cybereason led simulation Operation Blackout. What's interesting there is that the mock hacker attempts weren't aimed at electronic voting software, but at local infrastructure like 911 call centers, traffic lights, and self driving vehicles.

What really ties into your speculation is the discussion of the statements from a DHS representative in a House committee on intelligence and counter-terrorism back in March:

Extremism Building to the Doorstep of Another 9/11, DHS Official tells Committee in Anti-Semitism Hearing

Many of the subjects we talk about are combining into a single direction. Israeli tech domination, internet censorship, war in the middle east... we can read the tea leaves by the messages they're putting out to us.
Thanks for the videos. Will watch when i can.

They probably won't create a new dept or they may, who knows but its increasingly looking like policing is going to get a face lift
Some great observations. Obviously you've been paying close attention.

I believe the PNAC document "Pear Harbor" event you referred to was as the Illuminati cockroaches so lovingly want us to call it, "911". (A extremely powerful satanic number, according to the cockroaches).

Then, once America is psychologically co-opted, the can fan the flames of Civil War 2.0 in America, until it is so occupied with the same that they can go on with their third part of their plan, "Total Spectrum Dominance", (their words, not mine). My words: The final implementation of the NWO satanic Global Government System. In with the new and out with the old. That's what I believe we are seeing now.
I think it's prudent to keep in mind that all this isn't just spontaneous and that while Trump supporters don't want to acknowledge it, whoever planned the coming chaos and changes clearly had to make sure who would be president as the plan was executed and Trump has demonstrated that he is the man for such a time as this.
 
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Drudge: "Crews building non-scalable fence to secure White House, Ellipse and Lafayette Square... Developing..."


Notice how Drudge Reports it as fact, while the same CNN article that Drudge links it too says it's just a possibility...
 
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