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Bringing up old posts is not relevant at all.

When you explore different ideas and communicate them often there are going to be inconsistencies. New information may come forward, or a person can just change their mind. So I hide my posts because I'm not going to play some back and forth game about a dead ass thread.

BTW I'm pretty sure you can use the search function and necro whatever post you want though. So this thread has taken a sharp turn off the road of logic. What I mean is, if your argument is about scoring points, your thoughts are not in a straight line. Moreover for one to be "right", one doesn't have to prove someone wrong.

I'm not trying to act high and mighty or give a lecture here. I love lashing out when people rub me the wrong way. But I don't let my own claws control me. Drop shade on whoever you want, just understand that taking it too far is an L.
I can appreciate your sentiment and perspective but also think its important to hold people to their words here. If the website wasn't hyper-focused on truth and secular revelation, perhaps a more relaxed attitude could be accepted. But as it stands, the forum members deserve to have honest interactions here and as this thread shows, the same names usually take similarly themed threads in the same, off-topic directions........
 





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Of course it is. If the same posters keep making the same inane comments in multiple threads with the sole intention of trying to control the narrative and discredit people's research then they will be called out for doing so.

That's the game on this forum, any fool can see that.
There are a few things wrong with your statement here. You are trying to justify a fallacy of relevance with an appeal to ridicule and a strawman argument. To try to be clear, I can call anyone's comments silly, but that doesn't refute anything. Also, trying to claim another person's intent sure seems like misrepresenting the argument as if it's weaker than it actually is.

As a little disclaimer, I feel like noting, I haven't followed anyone's posts that closely. I view each argument as it should be viewed, a self-contained unit.

I can appreciate your sentiment and perspective but also think its important to hold people to their words here. If the website wasn't hyper-focused on truth and secular revelation, perhaps a more relaxed attitude could be accepted. But as it stands, the forum members deserve to have honest interactions here and as this thread shows, the same names usually take similarly themed threads in the same, off-topic directions........
This is a much better argument. But I think you have strayed into "false dilemma" territory. Also, a borderline "appeal to the people" type of fallacy. To try to be clear, there is more middle ground here than what you have declared. Hyper-focused? Yeah, not really. Hyper maybe, but most of these threads aren't that focused.

As far as appealing to the people, the people can decide for themselves what's honest or not. Look all I'm trying to say here is let's stick to the meat of the subject matter. If we all sat here and tried to hold each other to their words we would just be going around in circles.
 





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I can appreciate your sentiment and perspective but also think its important to hold people to their words here. If the website wasn't hyper-focused on truth and secular revelation, perhaps a more relaxed attitude could be accepted. But as it stands, the forum members deserve to have honest interactions here and as this thread shows, the same names usually take similarly themed threads in the same, off-topic directions........
With all due respect go back to my first post where I asked a legit question and tell me where the thread went off the rails after that. I know you are tight with Awoken, but he addressed me without saying a word on what I posted and took in another direction and you did as well or kept it going by responding about why I should open my posting history back up for all to see.

I am trying to once and for all be left alone when posting by one particular individual and that is why I keep discussing this. There continues to be this false illusion spread or alluded to by you and Awoken that I derail a thread with intent. It does not stack up with facts. I never had major issues in the forum and that goes back three generations of the board now. But Awoken is hung up on me in a very unhealthy manner.

You guys come in and suddenly asked in so many words for me to divulge my posting history. Heck, it had been open for years, but this very sort of thing which is happening right now is why I made it private. It was smoke and mirrors by Awoken trying to flip some sort of blame or accusations on me when he failed to answer my question and led the thread in another direction trying to make me comment on something I have never mentioned or engaged in.

And whether some know it or not.... very few people come to this thread for it has a history of gathering only like-minded people. People get what they see here on the news every day.

Aero and I had our differences but we soldiered through it and are in what I think is a good place now. Some here have shown no desire to defuse the situation or turn over a new leaf. They also continue their schtick despite warnings. In short, whatever happens, if anything at all, is on them.
 





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There are a few things wrong with your statement here. You are trying to justify a fallacy of relevance with an appeal to ridicule and a strawman argument. To try to be clear, I can call anyone's comments silly, but that doesn't refute anything. Also, trying to claim another person's intent sure seems like misrepresenting the argument as if it's weaker than it actually is.

As a little disclaimer, I feel like noting, I haven't followed anyone's posts that closely. I view each argument as it should be viewed, a self-contained unit.



This is a much better argument. But I think you have strayed into "false dilemma" territory. Also, a borderline "appeal to the people" type of fallacy. To try to be clear, there is more middle ground here than what you have declared. Hyper-focused? Yeah, not really. Hyper maybe, but most of these threads aren't that focused.

As far as appealing to the people, the people can decide for themselves what's honest or not. Look all I'm trying to say here is let's stick to the meat of the subject matter. If we all sat here and tried to hold each other to their words we would just be going around in circles.
I guess I dont see the dilemma as false because, for whatever reasons, there are discrepancies in peoples (myself included) posting and I think its fair to address that when it happens. The focus of the site itself is hyper-directed at truth telling, exposure of agenda and etc. so that was more what I was referencing earlier and I agree, the threads can quickly devolve and lose focus.

Im also not sure what you mean about an "appeal to the people" as I don't expect anyone to take much action, but I do feel its ok to call things out when issues need to be addressed.
 





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I have a very hard time believing that Trump's election and presidency could have been scripted.
to create friction between groups of people (left vs right, aliens vs citizens, religious vs atheists, etc.) while the elites can install 5G, implement agenda 2030, and do all of their other bidding in peace.
Trump has successfully split the Truther community. Congratulations everyone!
 





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I don’t know about anyone else, but any so-called Truther community that I would belong to has to include the capacity for disagreement. Lockstep thinking is what the other side does.
To clarify, non-violent, amicable disagreements, are healthy. I used Moog’s post to augment the increasingly obvious idea that he’s been used to divide people. Also, I used your post so others can see why he made that comment.
 





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Dangerous plans for more surveillance and control.
Patriot Act On Steroids: Trump's Dangerous New 'Pre-Crime' Plan
It's amazing that the majority of American who cry about the terrifying threat of economic "Socialism", have no concern about court ordered mental health treatment, unwarranted government surveillance, internet censorship, or a militarized police force. Since 9/11 ignorant US citizens have allowed their liberties be slowly eroded under the guise of "security". Drumph is a sick, ill individual but he's just a puppet for other establishment powers and their interests.

@DesertRose I'm sure you've seen them but here's two of the articles that were brought up in the video.

William Barr Announces Pre-Crime Program

Trump Touts More Militarized Police

“To help keep you safe, I’ve made $600 million-worth of surplus military equipment available to local law enforcement,” Trump told the audience of police chiefs."
 





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It's amazing that the majority of American who cry about the terrifying threat of economic "Socialism", have no concern about court ordered mental health treatment, unwarranted government surveillance, internet censorship, or a militarized police force. Since 9/11 ignorant US citizens have allowed their liberties be slowly eroded under the guise of "security". Drumph is a sick, ill individual but he's just a puppet for other establishment powers and their interests.
Thanks Davidson totally agree.
Unfortunately, the majority have fallen for the smoke and mirrors news cycles.
Whilst being distracted like infants.
Meanwhile those in power get their agenda no matter who is in office.
 





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To clarify, non-violent, amicable disagreements, are healthy. I used Moog’s post to augment the increasingly obvious idea that he’s been used to divide people. Also, I used your post so others can see why he made that comment.
I understand that, but I don’t agree that it’s Trump dividing people, unless it’s the crazy from the same.
 





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I don’t know about anyone else, but any so-called Truther community that I would belong to has to include the capacity for disagreement. Lockstep thinking is what the other side does.
The Truther community should have an inherit distrust of the President. Even if they "do good" by your definition, one should never think they are on our side... Because at the end of the day, they are president of the United States of America; a nation that's important to the globalist agenda. And frankly, the almost cult-like support that Trump gets is a little unsettling.

No one was getting up to defend Bush #2 or Obama with the degree of fantastism that Trump seems to inspire... And in a group that exists to question, it's a little unsettling that people don't seem to question that.
 





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The Truther community should have an inherit distrust of the President. Even if they "do good" by your definition, one should never think they are on our side... Because at the end of the day, they are president of the United States of America; a nation that's important to the globalist agenda. And frankly, the almost cult-like support that Trump gets is a little unsettling.

No one was getting up to defend Bush #2 or Obama with the degree of fantastism that Trump seems to inspire... And in a group that exists to question, it's a little unsettling that people don't seem to question that.
You must not have noticed the insane hatred for Trump some people have. Hate so irrational it makes them mistake defence of the truth and of common sense as slavish devotion to Trump.