The TRUE BIBLICAL TRUTH; Esau will fall, Jacob will rise

[Lyfe]

How can you teach and use The Law that you obviously don't know and brazenly refuse to keep?


Everything you (your "self" really) just said is a lie, i.e. it was Satan speaking through you. Who else advocates disobedience to God?

The words of Christ (the TRUE Gospel Message):-

Matthew 5:17-19
5:17 Think NOT that I am come to destroy The Law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill [fully preach The Law (The Torah) and fulfill the prophecies about the first coming of the Messiah].
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no way pass from The Law, till all be fulfilled.
5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least COMMANDments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in The Kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in The Kingdom of heaven.

John 5:42-47
5:42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.
5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
5:44 How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that [cometh] from God only?
5:45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is [one] that accuseth you, [even] Moses, in whom ye trust.
5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
5:47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

The TRUE Gospel Message couldn't be any clearer: THE LAW WILL NEVER GO AWAY, and the only way Christ's Sacrifice can save us is IF we truly REPENT of our sins/lawlessness/crimes, and turn back to Christ and to God. Anyone who is still sinning/breaking The Law is obviously serving Satan, NOT Christ. Christ, Who is The Law made flesh, ALWAYS KEEPS THE LAW. Shouldn't all of us be following Christ's Example rather than looking for excuses that we mistakenly believe will allow us to continue in sin?

Christ has no power over those who choose of their own free will to be a slave to sin. Only those who willingly choose to accept Christ's Gospel Truth and return to Him by keeping The Law/Commandments will survive. All others will perish in The Fire, as we've been warned for thousands of years (Mal. 4).

King of kings' Bible - John 8:25 (8:34 KJV) Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the prisoner of sin.

What is sin?

1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also The Law: for sin is the transgression of The Law.

And what can free us from sin? Keeping The Law, as Christ teaches. That's why it's referred to as the Perfect Royal Law of LIBERTY (James 2:12).

There is not one single verse in all of Scripture that tells us we should break The Law/Commandments of God. Obedience to God is the key to life, goodness, holiness and righteousness (Deut. 30:15-20), and those who seek it WILL find it (Matt. 7:7-14).



Let the Scriptures determine who is a liar and who is telling the truth.

1 John 2:1-5
2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin NOT. And IF any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2:2 And he is the atonement for our (past) sins (Rom. 3:25): and not for ours only, but also for [the sins of] the whole world.
2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, IF we keep His Commandments.
2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth NOT His Commandments, is a LIAR, and the truth is NOT in him.
2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

The only way NOT to be a sinner is to choose to DO as Christ COMMANDS: KEEP THE LAW/COMMANDMENTS OF GOD. There is no other way to stop sinning (sin not).

1 John 3:1-10
3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the (adopted) sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew Him not.
3:2 Beloved, now are we the (adopted) sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear (Christ's Second Coming), we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is (as The Christ).
3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he (Christ) is pure.
3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also The Law: for sin is the transgression of The Law.
3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our (past) sins; and in him (Christ) is no sin.
3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he (Christ) is righteous.
3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the Beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil (destroy sin - by magnifying The Law).
3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for His seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever DOETH NOT righteousness is NOT of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

There we have it. Those who are truly born again of God, from above (John 3:3-7) are those who are purifying themselves by DOING as Christ teaches (walking the walk). The more one strives to be Christ-like, the more Father (God) rewards that effort, making the climb easier and easier.

Take the first step toward Christ today, by learning to keep The Law while there is still time to prove you are genuinely sorry for not doing so sooner.


The Gospel Truth is The Law can only condemn those who refuse to keep it, exactly as Christ teaches.


You pretend that Christ is at odds with The Law, which is an obvious LIE. Why would anyone need to choose between Christ and The Law, when Christ is The Law/Word of God made flesh? Can you really not see how contradictory your satanic message and "Christian" traditions are? They are as bad as the ones promoted by Talmudic Judaism (and every other satanic organized religion).

KEEPING THE LAW BRINGS US TO CHRIST (Gal. 3:24).

Matthew 15:3-9
15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the COMMANDment of God by your Tradition?
15:4 For God Commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
15:5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to [his] father or [his] mother, [It is] a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;
15:6 And honour not his father or his mother, [he shall be free]. Thus have ye made the Commandment of God of none effect by your Tradition (Talmud).
15:7 [Ye] hypocrites, well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying,
15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with [their] lips; but their heart is FAR from me.
15:9 But in vain they do worship Me, teaching [for] doctrines the commandments of men (man-made laws/legislation).

STOP TEACHING YOUR SATANIC TRADITIONS THAT DISOBEDIENCE TO GOD IS SOMEHOW "CHRIST-LIKE".


Of course the exact opposite of what Satan just said through Lyfe is true.

1 John 2:3-4
2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, IF we keep His Commandments.
2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth NOT His Commandments, is a LIAR, and the truth is NOT in him.

What did the prophet Isaiah prophecy about Christ during His Second Coming with regard to The Law?

Isaiah 42:18-25
42:18 Hear, ye deaf; and look, ye blind, that ye may see.
42:19 Who [is] blind, but My servant? or deaf, as My messenger [that] I sent? who [is] as blind as [he that thinks he is] perfect, and blind as the "I AM"'s servant (Israel)?
42:20 Seeing many things, but thou takest no notice; opening the ears, but he heareth not.
42:21 The "I AM" is well pleased for His Righteousness' sake (for Christ's sake); He will magnify The Law, and make [it] honourable (Deut. 33:21).
42:22 But this [is] a people robbed and spoiled; [they are] all of them trapped in [pigeon] holes, and they are hid in prison houses: they are for a prey, and no-one delivereth [them]; for a spoil, and none saith, Restore [their share to them].
42:23 Who among you will give ear to this? [who] will hearken and hear for the time to come?
42:24 Who gave Jacob for a spoil, and Israel to the robbers? did not the "I AM", He against Whom we have sinned? for they would not walk in His Ways, neither were they obedient unto His Law.
42:25 Therefore He hath poured upon him the fury of His anger, and the strength of battle: and it hath set him (Israel) on fire round about, yet he understood not; and it burned him, yet he took [it] not to heart (did not learn from it).


Lyfe and Lisa are WRONG in trying to teach others that Christ wants us to break The Law/Commandments of God (Matt. 5:19). That's why they both continually contradict themselves and the Scriptures, because neither of them understand the Gospel (even though they mistakenly believe they do). Those like Lyfe and Lisa (i.e. most "Christians") are working AGAINST God and His Christ, by teaching others the exact opposite of what Christ teaches. Anyone who opposes God and Christ is very obviously working for Satan (Matt. 12:30), and doesn't know or love Christ (John 14:21-24, 1 John 2:3-4). They are therefore the (spiritually) "blind leading the blind", leading anyone foolish enough to listen to them AWAY from Christ and into The Fire, exactly as Christ warned (Matt. 15:14).

Of course the Scriptures prove them wrong, over and over again, which is why they both run from the words of Christ (which are the found in the Gospel) to their MISinterpretations of the letters of Paul, where they mistakenly believe they have refuge from keeping The Law. Paul wrote in a way that is very difficult for most to grasp (2 Pet. 3:15-16), particularly those who look for every excuse they can find to feel good about their continued obedience to Satan.

2 Peter 3:15-16
3:15 And account [that] the longsuffering of our Lord [is] salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the Wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
3:16 As also in all [his] epistles (letters), speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other Scriptures, unto their OWN destruction.

Believe Father (God) and His Christ, NOT in those who teach disobedience to Them. Free yourself from sin by learning to keep The Law as Christ teaches. There is no other way home, to Heaven.

Ill ask again freeman how many times did you sin yesterday and this past week? How many times did you break the entire law over and over again?? Or, will you remain proud and contend you didnt sin yestertday or this past week? According to your own standard you are serving Satan and a lawbreaker and will meet the fire... According to your own standard you stand condemned. Until you admit that you are in the same condemnation as those you point your finger at for breaking the law then you will remain proud. I will just start referring to you as lawbreaker from now on as you are guilty according to the same laws you tell others they must obey or perish. You stand condemned according to your own standard. I pray you can free yourself from sin and stop being a sinner, because that is what you are if measured by the law.

 

[Lisa]

Who told you we can't we keep The Law? And who told Eve that if she ate of the tree of the knowledge of good AND evil that she would be like God?

SAME ANSWER.

Do the verses you just cited from Paul's letter to the Galatians say we shouldn't keep The Law? Absolutely NOT.

Faith is trust in God, that He ALWAYS knows what is best and that His Law is PERFECT, Just and Fair for ALL. It is a lack of faith and/or will-power to resist temptation that causes us to sin/break The Law. And when we sin/break The Law, we make a mockery of Christ's Sacrifice.

Galatians 3:24 Wherefore The Law was our schoolmaster [to bring us] unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

The ONLY way The Law can be a schoolmaster/teacher is IF we study it, learn from it and keep and apply it. There is simply no other way to learn the lessons that can ONLY come from keeping The Law, and ONLY THOSE LESSONS can bring us to Christ.

Galatians 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster (but under Christ, Who is The Word/Law made flesh – John 1:14 - and who taught "self" sacrifice - Luke 9:23, Gal. 2:20 - instead of substitute animal sacrifice).

Galatians 3:26 For ye are all the (adopted) children of God (IF ye do His Will) by faith (trust) in Christ Jesus.

Is there such a thing as faith without good, Godly works (as defined in His Law)? NO (James 2:17-26). We are to keep The Commandments of God (His Law) to know and love Christ.

John 14:15 IF ye love me, KEEP my COMMANDments.

Anyone who falsely claims that we no longer have to keep The Law/obey God, is teaching others we should obey Satan and break God's Commandments/His Law (which is what sinning is - 1 John 3:4). They are also calling God and Christ liars, and obviously don't believe Paul either, because Paul quite clearly stated that he himself was keeping The Law (Rom. 7:25), that The Law/Commandments of God are holy, just and good (Rom. 7:12), that he was establishing The Law everywhere he went (Rom. 3:31) and that only DOERS of The Law shall be justified (Rom. 2:13)?

Hopefully you can now see that any and all of the satanic arguments against God and His Word/Truth/Law will NEVER work. That's why Christ warned that those who make such arguments (trying to teach others to break the Commandments/Law), are the lowest of the low in God's Eyes (Matt. 5:19).

Well..haha..be honest now..do you keep the law all day every day? If you were honest you would say no. No one can which is why it’s a tutor to lead us to Christ.

Lyfe and Lisa are WRONG in trying to teach others that Christ wants us to break The Law/Commandments of God (Matt. 5:19). That's why they both continually contradict themselves and the Scriptures, because neither of them understand the Gospel (even though they mistakenly believe they do). Those like Lyfe and Lisa (i.e. most "Christians") are working AGAINST God and His Christ, by teaching others the exact opposite of what Christ teaches.

No, we are trying to help you see where you and others here are wrong.

Anyone who opposes God and Christ is very obviously working for Satan (Matt. 12:30), and doesn't know or love Christ (John 14:21-24, 1 John 2:3-4). They are therefore the (spiritually) "blind leading the blind", leading anyone foolish enough to listen to them AWAY from Christ and into The Fire, exactly as Christ warned (Matt. 15:14).

Yes you are.. and I do hope no one is foolish enough to listen to you or others when you all say that faith is all about keeping the law. That’s not faith.

 

[LittleLady]

@A Freeman just don't bother replying to Lyfe or Lisa anymore. If they can't see the truth for what it is, then leave them be. I don't know what Lisa is saying because I have her on ignore, but all Lyfe is going to do is repeat that you're a lawbreaker over and over again while ignoring your well-written explanations. She can't seem to say anything else besides saying you're a lawbreaker because she doesn't know anything about it, and she just doesn't want to be proven wrong.

From this comment forth, I'm personally just going to let her believe what she wants. You should too, because she's being repetitive.

 

[TokiEl]

Paul wrote a letter to the church in Galatia and told them... that if they continued with circumcision and observing holy days... then Christ would be of no value to them.

Judaizers had crept into the church in Galatia and burdened the congregation there with jewish laws...


There is a big difference between the laws statutes and regulations in the Old Testament compared to the freedom in Christ in the New Testament. And that is because of the Holy spirit who changes believers in Jesus into His image.

Christians are Christlike... or at least a christ in progress right.

 

[A Freeman]

We all have the free-will decision to choose between good/truth/life or evil/lies/death.

Every single Prophet of God, Christ Himself, and everyone of the disciples and apostles have one thing in common: they ALL kept The Law and taught or shared that everyone else needs to do the same. There are absolutely NO exceptions, (including Paul).

So we have on the one hand, everyone God sent out into the world to teach obedience to Him and His Law (which is all about loving one another) and, on the other hand, we have Satan and his organized religions, all of which have taught it's okay to ignore the Scriptures and disobey God (which promotes hatred and division).

We have ALL sinned (broken The Law). THAT is what NEEDS to change. When one is TRULY reborn as their true, SPIRITUAL self, they have their eyes opened to the TRUTH that our Kind, Loving, Merciful, Gracious, Patient, and Long-Suffering Creator ALWAYS has our best interest in Mind. And His Law is no exception. Father (God, the "I AM") gave us His Law to protect us from evil/sin and to set and keep us free (from evil/sin).

Humans, who are manipulated by Satan, see everything upside down and backwards, from a worldly perspective, That is why Christ said we MUST be born again from above to even be able to "see" the Kingdom of God, much less be able to enter it (John 3:3-7). How could someone believe they are following Christ's Example (John 14:6), and being Christ-like, by disobeying God? Did Christ disobey God? God forbid!

Christ made it perfectly clear that The Law will NEVER go away (Matt. 5:17-19), and that He came to teach and preach The Law to everyone. Christ also told us that IF we simply keep The Law, we will find out for ourselves just how amazing it really is.

John 7:16-17
7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but His that sent me.
7:17 If any man will DO His will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or [whether] I speak of myself.

So why don't people get rid of their stupid religious superstitions and man-made traditions, which make the Commandments of God of NO effect (exactly as Satan wants) and just DO what Christ COMMANDS us to do for our own benefit, by keeping The Law? BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OF GOD.

Anyone who refuses to return to The Law before Judgment Day WILL burn, exactly as we've been warned for thousands of years (Mal. 4).

Learn The Way home or face The Fire.

 

[Lyfe]

@A Freeman just don't bother replying to Lyfe or Lisa anymore. If they can't see the truth for what it is, then leave them be. I don't know what Lisa is saying because I have her on ignore, but all Lyfe is going to do is repeat that you're a lawbreaker over and over again while ignoring your well-written explanations. She can't seem to say anything else besides saying you're a lawbreaker because she doesn't know anything about it, and she just doesn't want to be proven wrong.

From this comment forth, I'm personally just going to let her believe what she wants. You should too, because she's being repetitive.

Why did Jesus come Littlelady? What was the purpose of his advent? What do we need to be saved from?

 

[TokiEl]

Anyone who refuses to return to The Law before Judgment Day WILL burn, exactly as we've been warned for thousands of years.

This is the Law which we in truth uphold.

Love God and our neighbour.

 

[Lyfe]

We all have the free-will decision to choose between good/truth/life or evil/lies/death.

Every single Prophet of God, Christ Himself, and everyone of the disciples and apostles have one thing in common: they ALL kept The Law and taught or shared that everyone else needs to do the same. There are absolutely NO exceptions, (including Paul).

So we have on the one hand, everyone God sent out into the world to teach obedience to Him and His Law (which is all about loving one another) and, on the other hand, we have Satan and his organized religions, all of which have taught it's okay to ignore the Scriptures and disobey God (which promotes hatred and division)..

We have ALL sinned (broken The Law). THAT is what NEEDS to change. When one is TRULY reborn as their true, SPIRITUAL self, they have their eyes opened to the TRUTH that our Kind, Loving, Merciful, Gracious, Patient, and Long-Suffering Creator ALWAYS has our best interest in Mind. And His Law is no exception. Father (God, the "I AM") gave us His Law to protect us from evil/sin and to set and keep us free (from evil/sin).

Humans, who are manipulated by Satan, see everything upside down and backwards, from a worldly perspective, That is why Christ said we MUST be born again from above to even be able to "see" the Kingdom of God, much less be able to enter it (John 3:3-7). How could someone believe they are following Christ's Example (John 14:6), and being Christ-like, by disobeying God? Did Christ disobey God? God forbid!

Christ made it perfectly clear that The Law will NEVER go away (Matt. 5:17-19), and that He came to teach and preach The Law to everyone. Christ also told us that IF we simply keep The Law, we will find out for ourselves just how amazing it really is.

John 7:16-17
7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but His that sent me.
7:17 If any man will DO His will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or [whether] I speak of myself.

So why don't people get rid of their stupid religious superstitions and traditions, which make the Commandments of God of NO effect (exactly as Satan wants) and just DO what Christ COMMANDS us to do for our own benefit, by keeping The Law? BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OF GOD.

Anyone who refuses to return to The Law before Judgment Day WILL burn, exactly as we've been warned for thousands of years.

Learn The Way home or face The Fire.

Anyone who refuses to return to The Law before Judgment Day WILL burn, exactly as we've been warned for thousands of years.

How can you contend that you have returned to the law when you break it everyday freeman? You keep condemning yourself. The law demands perfection. Plain and simple. One sin was enough to condemn Adam and Even and the entire human race. How much more would one sin condemn you all over again? The whole law was broken by that one sin at the fall of man and Adam and Eve became subjected to death. Each and every time you sin you break not just one aspect of the law, but the entire thing. That means in one sin you may as well have broken all 600 plus laws. Cant you see how you stand condemned according to the law? The law is holy, righteous, and good indeed, but to sinful man it is his condemnation and the standard in which God will judge the world. Even if you managed to keep the 612 recognized laws, but failed the last one you would stand guilty and be sentenced to damnation. The law is meant to demonstrate your need for Jesus who is the savior. The law evokes Gods wrath, because unless you keep it perfectly then the penalty is upon you. I pray in Jesus name you would realize this, because you are pointing people the wrong direction. You ought to be pointing them to Jesus Christ as the sin bearer and savior and deliverer he is as he is the only hope and not the messenger from God that led people back to the law. I have news for you freeman. There is a record and account of your sin right now in Gods hands. I promise you that the count is not 0 today or yesterday. You are a lawbreaker and sinner by your own standards freeman and have not returned to the law. You cant be righteous by the law freeman. The only righteousness that God will accept is the perfect righteousness in his son Jesus Christ who lived a sinless life and that righteousness is only accessible through faith. The bottom line is that you did not keep the law today, yesterday, or this past week. You broke it which would make you a transgressor. According to the law and your own standard you will burn, because you do not keep the law nor have you returned to the law. You need to turn to Jesus and abandon all hope in the law that it will save you, because it wont. Jesus came to bring salvation and save the world from the condemnation the law brings, because there is only record of your sin according to the law.

Its like I said you should be pointing people to Jesus Christ to bring salvation and not the law. You should be magnifying and testifying of him and boasting of the ministration of the holy spirit, not the law. Your understanding of the gospel is completely wrong. Its like Paul says you are a debtor to the whole law freeman. You need to renounce your misled ideas of the law, because if you sin once you break each and every jot and tittle. Your obedience to the law will not be remembered or regarded by God, because all that will be remembered is the times you broke the law. I really pray that God would give you a realization of your sinfulness that still remains despite your misled belief that you keep the law. You need to get it through your head that the law demands absolute perfection and keeping without fail, and anything less is condemnation and the promise of eventual judgment. If you could earn righteousness and enter into the kingdom of God by the law then there was no point for Jesus to hang on a cross and die in the manner in which he did. You either cling to the perfect righteousness of Christ and hold to that as your merit before God, or the law, but the law will only condemn you. I really pray you understand....

 

[cjkkw]

How can you contend that you have returned to the law when you break it everyday freeman? You keep condemning yourself. The law demands perfection. Plain and simple. One sin was enough to condemn Adam and Even and the entire human race. How much more would one sin condemn you all over again? The whole law was broken by that one sin at the fall of man and Adam and Eve became subjected to death. Each and every time you sin you break not just one aspect of the law, but the entire thing. That means in one sin you may as well have broken all 600 plus laws. Cant you see how you stand condemned according to the law? The law is holy, righteous, and good indeed, but to sinful man it is his condemnation and the standard in which God will judge the world. Even if you managed to keep the 612 recognized laws, but failed the last one you would stand guilty and be sentenced to damnation. The law is meant to demonstrate your need for Jesus who is the savior. The law evokes Gods wrath, because unless you keep it perfectly then the penalty is upon you. I pray in Jesus name you would realize this, because you are pointing people the wrong direction. You ought to be pointing them to Jesus Christ as the sin bearer and savior and deliverer he is as he is the only hope and not the messenger from God that led people back to the law. I have news for you freeman. There is a record and account of your sin right now in Gods hands. I promise you that the count is not 0 today or yesterday. You are a lawbreaker and sinner by your own standards freeman and have not returned to the law. You cant be righteous by the law freeman. The only righteousness that God will accept is the perfect righteousness in his son Jesus Christ who lived a sinless life and that righteousness is only accessible through faith. The bottom line is that you did not keep the law today, yesterday, or this past week. You broke it which would make you a transgressor. According to the law and your own standard you will burn, because you do not keep the law nor have you returned to the law. You need to turn to Jesus and abandon all hope in the law that it will save you, because it wont. Jesus came to bring salvation and save the world from the condemnation the law brings, because there is only record of your sin according to the law.

Its like I said you should be pointing people to Jesus Christ to bring salvation and not the law. You should be magnifying and testifying of him and boasting of the ministration of the holy spirit, not the law. Your understanding of the gospel is completely wrong. Its like Paul says you are a debtor to the whole law freeman. You need to renounce your misled ideas of the law, because if you sin once you break each and every jot and tittle. Your obedience to the law will not be remembered or regarded by God, because all that will be remembered is the times you broke the law. I really pray that God would give you a realization of your sinfulness that still remains despite your misled belief that you keep the law. You need to get it through your head that the law demands absolute perfection and keeping without fail, and anything less is condemnation and the promise of eventual judgment. If you could earn righteousness and enter into the kingdom of God by the law then there was no point for Jesus to hang on a cross and die in the manner in which he did. You either cling to the perfect righteousness of Christ and hold to that as your merit before God, or the law, but the law will only condemn you. I really pray you understand....

instead of helping ya law, the law won't even get ya back.

 

[A Freeman]

Further on The Law, and why there is no other possible way to TRULY Love God, Love One's Neighbour, and Love and Appreciate Christ's Sacrifice other than keeping and enforcing God's Law ONLY...

The word "Satan" is Hebrew and means "the Opposer" (God's Adversary).

God gave us all of the necessary tools to create a perfect society within the first five books of the Bible, namely Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy.

Collectively, those books are referred to as the Torah in Hebrew which, in English, means The Law. While The Law contains what is commonly referred to as the 10 Commandments (Exod. 20:3-17, Deut. 5:7-21), which are the basic, universal principles of The Law, the whole of The Moral, National Law is often referred to as "the Commandments" because they are God's COMMANDS to us, given to us to protect us from evil and to set and keep us free.

IF we kept The Law, as we were COMMANDED to do for our own benefit, and which we all promised to do, we would all be enjoying:

TRUE FREEDOM - under the perfect system of government, where there are no banksters or politicians and their made-up money and rules

TRUE JUSTICE - with the perfect system of justice, where there are no attorneys and black-robed judges administering and enforcing satanic policies, and where everyone is taught and knows The Law

TRUE PEACE - where war is a capital offense

TRUE PROSPERITY - where the perfect economic system ensures there is no crime or poverty

TRUE SPIRITUAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH with the perfect agricultural system, with no chemicals, GMOs, fluoridated water and other poisons, along with the perfect healthy diet, which eliminates all life-ending sickness and disease.

And THE TRUE SAFETY AND SECURITY that only God can provide

God sent all of His Prophets/Messengers with His Message of Truth (The Law), and finally His Son. And we've beaten, tortured and murdered them for telling us the truth, and then wonder why the world is in the mess it's in today (Matt. 21:33-46).

Christ quite obviously did NOT come to destroy The Law, as He quite clearly stated.

Matthew 5:17-20
5:17 Think NOT that I am come to destroy The Law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill ["pleroo" - to fully preach The Law (The Torah) and fulfill the prophecies about the first coming of the Messiah].
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no way pass from The Law, till ALL be fulfilled.
5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least COMMANDments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in The Kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in The Kingdom of heaven.
5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall EXCEED [the righteousness] of the lawyers and politicians, ye shall in no case enter into The Kingdom of heaven.

Anyone who claims otherwise, i.e. anyone claiming that we no longer have to keep The Law, is still listening to, obeying and working for Satan, knowingly or otherwise. And everyone who continues to listen to, obey and work for Satan will find themselves in The Fire on Judgment Day. There will be NO exceptions.

Sin = breaking The Law (1 John 3:4). The wages of sin/breaking The Law are DEATH (Ezek. 18:4, 20, Rom. 6:23). Logically, the only way to stop sinning is to remember and return to keeping The Law.

Malachi 4
4:1 For, behold, the Day cometh, that shall burn like an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts, that it shall leave of them neither root nor branch (nothing).
4:2 But unto you that fear My name shall the Sun of Righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in The Day that I shall do [this], saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts.
4:4 Remember ye and return to The Law of Moses My servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, [with] the Statutes and Judgments.
4:5 Behold, I will send you EliJAH the Prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful Day of the "I AM" (Sura 43:61):
4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse (see verse 1 for the details of the curse).

Christ, while He was here in the body of Jesus, simplified The Law even further:

Mark 12:29-31
12:29 And Jesus answered him, The First of all the Commandments [is], Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is ONE Lord (NOT a pagan "trinity"):
12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength and serve Him ONLY: this [is] the first COMMANDment.
12:31 And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself (Lev. 19:18). There is none other COMMANDment greater than these.

If one is TRULY obeying these two SIMPLE COMMANDments, they cannot possibly break The Law. They would not only be keeping The Law to ensure the very best of God's Blessings for everyone (including themselves), but they would be establishing it everywhere they went, just as Paul was doing.

Romans 3:30-31
3:30 Seeing [it is] ONE God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
3:31 Do we then make void The Law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish The Law.

Anyone who is claiming that it's impossible to keep The Law every day all day long, or that we no longer have to keep The Law because of Christ's Sacrifice, is calling our heavenly Father (God) and His Christ liars, which is not only fatally stupid, but is also irrefutable proof that such individuals work for Satan, the Opposer.

Matthew 19:26 But Jesus beheld [them], and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but WITH God ALL things are possible.

1 John 5:2-3
5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and KEEP His Commandments.
5:3 For THIS is the love of God, that we KEEP His Commandments: and His Commandments are NOT grievous.

Christ paid the price for our PAST sins (Rom. 3:25), as the sacrificial Lamb of God, because we had all fallen under the Curse of The Law (its penalty clause for not keeping it). The Law is a blessing to those who keep it, and a curse to those who do not (see Deut. 28). Christ obviously did NOT suffer the agony of the cross to give us the freedom to sin with impunity, which would make everyone in this world even more evil than they already are.

There will be, according to Christ, 144,000 ISRAELITES (Rev. 7:4-9, Rev. 14:1-4) who LOVE Christ and are willing to sacrifice EVERYTHING, including their own human lives (John 15:13) to be with Him and be allowed to help Him establish His Kingdom here on Earth. Christ's Sheep hear His Voice (John 10:1-18), but the goats do not (Matt. 25:31-46).

Everyone else will burn for their continued rebellion against God and His Law, having proven beyond any doubt they are unwilling to overcome their own egos, and have no desire to love their neighbour as much or more than themselves.

Hopefully this will impress upon everyone the importance of remembering and returning to The Law, which is the only way to help Christ finish His Mission here on Earth and, in doing so, help ourselves.

1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the Beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil (sin/breaking The Law).

 

[TokiEl]

Mark 12:29-31
12:29 And Jesus answered him, The First of all the Commandments [is], Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is ONE Lord (NOT a pagan "trinity"):
12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength and serve Him ONLY: this [is] the first COMMANDment.
12:31 And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself (Lev. 19:18). There is none other COMMANDment greater than these.

If one is TRULY obeying these two SIMPLE COMMANDments, they cannot possibly break The Law. They would not only be keeping The Law to ensure the very best of God's Blessings for everyone (including themselves), but they would be establishing it everywhere they went, just as Paul was doing.

Romans 3:30-31
3:30 Seeing [it is] ONE God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
3:31 Do we then make void The Law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish The Law.

The Ten Commandments are summarised into... Love God and our neighbour.

These are the Commandments and this is the Law... which we establish.

 

[KoncreteMind]

The law demands perfection.

So how did David, who was under the law, murder someone for their wife and the Most High STILL spoke highly of Him after the event?

 

[cjkkw]

So how did David, who was under the law, murder someone for their wife and the Most High STILL spoke highly of Him after the event?

jesuschrist.

 

[LittleLady]

So how did David, who was under the law, murder someone for their wife and the Most High STILL spoke highly of Him after the event?

That question just brings out how deeply confused you are.

That question is like asking, "How in the world can I sin and God still chooses to forgive me?" You're talking about we are able to repent to the father but then you ask this foolishness.

I sin all the time. Then I repent to the son and continue worshipping the father. David continued worshipping the father because he was called- he was HIS CHOSEN so of course he will forgive him.

So then, Koncrete, pray tell, if God has revealed to you that you belong to him, then why would you ask this when you know that you, yourself, was always chosen since the beginning? You sin too. Do you think he doesn't forgive you and no longer keeps you as his?

The answer is, considering you don't even repent to the son, this is probably why you're confused. You're not even with the father, that's why you're going in circles. You were preaching, but not repenting to the son thus not going to worship the father. This is why you're asking questions that are either obvious or don't make sense.

2nd Samuel 12:11-15 is your answer for your initial question. God says he will bring calamity upon David, but he will also forgive him. He struck his son with an illness due to David going against him. God let David live, but he killed his son as punishment.

David wept but continued worshipping God. How can one continue worshipping God after he did that? Because they are of God, and they are the ones he loves. That's your second answer. David then comforted his wife and made love to her. They then had a son named Solomon, which God loved him, but he personally changed his name, and instead named him Jedidiah instead, and "Jedidiah" means "Friend of God" Awh <3

And fun fact: Jesus is also called the son of David indicating his royal origin, and he is also called the son of Abraham indicating he is an Israelite. So no duh, of course God still loves David! Gods people are also royal and they're Israelites, so that isn't bad if you ask me.

Well, there you go. God forgives his people, but also punishes them when they need discipline.

 

[cjkkw]

That question just brings out how deeply confused you are.

That question is like asking, "How in the world can I sin and God still chooses to forgive me?" You're talking about we are able to repent to the father but then you ask this foolishness.

I sin all the time. Then I repent to the son and continue worshipping the father. David continued worshipping the father because he was called- he was HIS CHOSEN so of course he will forgive him.

So then, Koncrete, pray tell, if God has revealed to you that you belong to him, then why would you ask this when you know that you, yourself, was always chosen since the beginning? You sin too. Do you think he doesn't forgive you and no longer keeps you as his?

The answer is, considering you don't even repent to the son, this is probably why you're confused. You're not even with the father, that's why you're going in circles. You were preaching, but not repenting to the son thus not going to worship the father. This is why you're asking questions that are either obvious or don't make sense.

2nd Samuel 12:11-15 is your answer for your initial question. God says he will bring calamity upon David, but he will also forgive him. He struck his son with an illness due to David going against him. God let David live, but he killed his son as punishment.

David wept but continued worshipping God. How can one continue worshipping God after he did that? Because they are of God, and they are the ones he loves. That's your second answer. David then comforted his wife and made love to her. They then had a son named Solomon, which God loved him, but he personally changed his name, and instead named him Jedidiah instead, and "Jedidiah" means "Friend of God" Awh <3

And fun fact: Jesus is also called the son of David indicating his royal origin, and he is also called the son of Abraham indicating he is an Israelite. So no duh, of course God still loves David! Gods people are also royal and they're Israelites, so that isn't bad if you ask me.

Well, there you go. God forgives his people, but also punishes them when they need discipline.

jesuschrist reign

 

[KoncreteMind]

That question just brings out how deeply confused you are.

That question is like asking, "How in the world can I sin and God still chooses to forgive me?" You're talking about we are able to repent to the father but then you ask this foolishness.

I sin all the time. Then I repent to the son and continue worshipping the father. David continued worshipping the father because he was called- he was HIS CHOSEN so of course he will forgive him.

So then, Koncrete, pray tell, if God has revealed to you that you belong to him, then why would you ask this when you know that you, yourself, was always chosen since the beginning? You sin too. Do you think he doesn't forgive you and no longer keeps you as his?

The answer is, considering you don't even repent to the son, this is probably why you're confused. You're not even with the father, that's why you're going in circles. You were preaching, but not repenting to the son thus not going to worship the father. This is why you're asking questions that are either obvious or don't make sense.

2nd Samuel 12:11-15 is your answer for your initial question. God says he will bring calamity upon David, but he will also forgive him. He struck his son with an illness due to David going against him. God let David live, but he killed his son as punishment.

David wept but continued worshipping God. How can one continue worshipping God after he did that? Because they are of God, and they are the ones he loves. That's your second answer. David then comforted his wife and made love to her. They then had a son named Solomon, which God loved him, but he personally changed his name, and instead named him Jedidiah instead, and "Jedidiah" means "Friend of God" Awh <3

And fun fact: Jesus is also called the son of David indicating his royal origin, and he is also called the son of Abraham indicating he is an Israelite. So no duh, of course God still loves David! Gods people are also royal and they're Israelites, so that isn't bad if you ask me.

Well, there you go. God forgives his people, but also punishes them when they need discipline.

You're just rambling lol Lyfe said that the law demands PERFECTION. I then asked if that was the case (it wasnt), then how could David be talked about highly even after committing 2 sins punishable by DEATH (murder/adultery)? And you take that as me saying that God doesnt forgive people when they sin? Im not sure how you cant follow the flow of a simple convo, but think you can follow and understand the bible?

David didnt repent to a Jesus by the way. He repented to the Most High.. You repent to a Jesus because you're an idol worshiper who woulda been put to death in the time of David or Moses if you suggested they repent to someone other than the Creator....

 

[cjkkw]

You're just rambling lol Lyfe said that the law demands PERFECTION. I then asked if that was the case (it wasnt), then how could David be talked about highly even after committing 2 sins punishable by DEATH (murder/adultery)? And you take that as me saying that God doesnt forgive people when they sin? Im not sure how you cant follow the flow of a simple convo, but think you can follow and understand the bible?

David didnt repent to a Jesus by the way. He repented to the Most High.. You repent to a Jesus because you're an idol worshiper who woulda been put to death in the time of David or Moses if you suggested they repent to someone other than the Creator....

The Goliath narrative in 1 Samuel 17
Saul and the Israelites are facing the Philistines in the Valley of Elah. ... David hurls a stone from his sling and hits Goliath in the center of his forehead, Goliath falls on his face to the ground, and David cuts off his head

 

[LittleLady]

You're just rambling lol Lyfe said that the law demands PERFECTION. I then asked if that was the case (it wasnt), then how could David be talked about highly even after committing 2 sins punishable by DEATH (murder/adultery)? And you take that as me saying that God doesnt forgive people when they sin? Im not sure how you cant follow the flow of a simple convo, but think you can follow and understand the bible?

David didnt repent to a Jesus by the way. He repented to the Most High.. You repent to a Jesus because you're an idol worshiper who woulda been put to death in the time of David or Moses if you suggested they repent to someone other than the Creator....

He repented to the Most High because that was before God sent his son. I'm not paying attention to Lyfe's comment anymore, so I thought that question was just a question you were personally confused about. I guess Lyfe can read it instead then.

Okay you're not with the father because you haven't repented to the son as I've been repeating for weeks at this point. You don't even repent to the son, how can you go to worship the father? You can't. But you want to continue thinking I'm an idol worshipper, go ahead. It's clear we disagree with each other.

 

[KoncreteMind]

He repented to the Most High because that was before God sent his son.

God doesnt change nor does His standards. What He gave to Moses was His expectation of Israel forever. Any deviation from that is idol worship. Doesnt matter the excuses you have (and I had-past tense) for your inclusion of Jesus..

I'm not paying attention

That was clear...

Okay you're not with the father because you haven't repented to the son as I've been repeating for weeks at this point. You don't even repent to the son, how can you go to worship the father? You can't. But you want to continue thinking I'm an idol worshipper, go ahead. It's clear we disagree with each other.

The Torah says worship/acknowledgement of any other god is idol worship. No one prayed to the son for repentance in the OT, so they'd disagree with you and call you an idol worship (and worse, seek to kill you if you went into their land spreading your doctrine)... You're not of that spirit though....

 

[Yahda]

He repented to the Most High because that was before God sent his son. I'm not paying attention to Lyfe's comment anymore, so I thought that question was just a question you were personally confused about. I guess Lyfe can read it instead then.

Okay you're not with the father because you haven't repented to the son as I've been repeating for weeks at this point. You don't even repent to the son, how can you go to worship the father? You can't. But you want to continue thinking I'm an idol worshipper, go ahead. It's clear we disagree with each other.

Where did God say: Repent to the son in the OT ?

Do you realize that you are incapable of worshiping our great God without mentioning a sidekick ? You can’t even give God his glory without going on and on about this imaginary son. God said numerous times that “there is no God but him. There is none beside me, who will you all liken to ME.”

You have too much going on. I should be able to read your comments and know who you worship. Know who your God is, but no....you can’t mention The Most High God without throwing an idol in the mix. GOD IS GOD. That’s it! I expect that from Christians because Jesus is their God. I don’t expect this from a so called Hebrew. That’s why I still consider you a Christian. CHRIST WORSHIPER!