How is it even an option if it would fail? How does that even make sense? You have other options. We all do.No, i dont think it would be succesful. Yes, i think its the only option.
How is it even an option if it would fail? How does that even make sense? You have other options. We all do.No, i dont think it would be succesful. Yes, i think its the only option.
...options that are even moreso futile. Nothing is going to change. Talking about it or trying to raise awareness isnt going to do anything if that much hasnt been proven to toy yet. Those avenues have been exhausted.How is it even an option if it would fail? How does that even make sense? You have other options. We all do.
Engaging in a futile attempt to overthrow the government that you know is doomed to failure from the start isn’t much of an option. That’s literally unnecessary loss of life....options that are even moreso futile. Nothing is going to change. Talking about it or trying to raise awareness isnt going to do anything if that much hasnt been proven to toy yet. Those avenues have been exhausted.
So you mostly agree with the observations I have madeI find most of that plausible, some more relevant than others. .
Anybody can divest from the government. The only thing they can’t divest in is taxes and criminal law. What do you mean by influenced?You can argue they didnt steal the election... I would say "fixed" is a more appropriate term and people having no say in and of itself of who represents them is more than enough justification for an ovethrow. 12 years of Bushes, 12 years of Obama(if you count Bidens upcoming 4).
I cant disengage from government by the way. Unless you have suggestions as to how and where i can go where i wont be influenced by those in power?
but this was the agenda all alongthere’s no justification for an overthrow doomed to fail at everything other then costing people their lives.
Your serious?Anybody can divest from the government. The only thing they can’t divest in is taxes and criminal law. What do you mean by influenced?
as for stealing or fixing the election..; there is no evidence of that. A bunch of people FEELING like they should have won doesn’t mean an election was stolen. And you didn’t have much of a voice even under trump if your being completely honest - he broke almost all his campaign promises
there’s no justification for an overthrow doomed to fail at everything other then costing people their lives.
uh nope. That’s not how it works at all.Section 230 gives websites that host third-party published information the right to censor speech that is usually protected under the 1st Amendment. Section 230 literally gives them the privilege to do something which would be unconstitutional if the censorship was done in any other circumstance.
Maybe I was being an asshole.So you mostly agree with the observations I have made
So what in God's name are you doing non stop attacking me as some kind of "MSM agent" when you are agreeing mostly with the things they have claimed, and I have observed.
what is your problem exactly ?
There is ZERO justification for engaging in acts that will cost people their lives and won’t succeed in their ultimate goal. That is just a general statement that applies to this but also to more then this. Jesus didn’t say to overthrow the corrupt governments did he?Your serious?
Rex 84, Patriot Act, NDAA, Agenda 21
How am I able to live independently from just some of these? You do realize that in a state of national emergency you have no property and much of rural america is illegal to inhabit, basically forcing me into a city? You really think one is able to just escape and live independent from the influence of these people? They create pandemics and then make laws based off of fake information to give them more power. They initiate illegal wars and then make laws to strip me of certain rights. You been here on the VC for 10 years no? Where you been? Lets just say if I had been a small business owner in this pandemic. What say would I have to having my business forcibly shut down? You think you will be immune to the consequences of the next war Biden gets us into in the middle east? This website may not even exist if web censorship becomes a thing. Will that be a big deal?
...and Im not even going to debate you on the election integrity, but if you really believe that Biden becoming the democratic nominee wasnt FIXED then I dont know what to tell you.... Its just coincidence that Bush was in office for 12 years and how we get the VP of Obama giving him a total of 12 years in office.
There is more than justification for people to form a militia and overthrow the power and I am astonished you have been so desensitized in accepting it all that you cant see that. More than enough....
we all can be at times.Maybe I was being an asshole.
it is very strange and it is hyper real.Anyways I find this whole situation very strange and hyper real. I listened to a few podcasts today that helped me process it
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Wrong on both, Spencer’s analysis is essentially the same as yours, not a word of a lie, and that these people will be railroaded 10x harder than the Charlottesville people, which was pretty hard. It was a pretty good stream and I don’t usually like spencer.Adam green I haven’t watched the whole stream yet, but that this is playing into the zionist hands, q is a Zionist trap etc.Adam Green : set up to demonize conservatives and call us terrorists
Richard Spencer : We have these elites terrified, we need more of this "patriotism"
what is their synopsis ?
it doesn’t but the fact that she’s now essentially a chair person for blm is the crux.how does that differ from
Bush pardonning Iran contra criminals
or Trump pardonning Zionist real estate criminals and convicted war criminals
I think your being naïve and idealistic. Rallies and handing out fliers isnt going to do anything so to suggest means other than ousting government is somehow more legit and realistic is delusion. If you cant see that is what it will boil down to and think there is somehow a more efficient and realistic alternative then you are deceiving yourself. Militias have always been formed because of this and those going to the trouble of rallying tangible ones now atleast have the foresight to see this inevitability. They see that this is what its going to come down to and the elite wont stop until you and your family are part of a future as impoverished and imprisoned individuals(in a welfare society in perpetual lockdown where you are dependent on government for your next loaf of bread). Give me any other idea and I can point out how unrealistic it is if not moreso.There is ZERO justification for engaging in acts that will cost people their lives and won’t succeed in their ultimate goal. That is just a general statement that applies to this but also to more then this. Jesus didn’t say to overthrow the corrupt governments did he?
Biden becoming the nominee may have been fixed idk. I think it was more that people are scared of socialism and the DNC successfully branded any other possible candidate as one. Biden winning the election is a different story. You have millions of people who would have voted for a paper bag to get rid of trump, including republicans. If there was fraud they would have found it. They didn’t.
you choose how much you engage in the system. The Amish have been successfully divested from it this whole time. There are only very limited circumstances and situations where this doesn’t apply.
A sting op. I thought I’ve already made that point several times?You have previously stated you had zero problem with an authoritarian government under trump. Trump is trying to stay in power despite being voted out - doesn’t get more authoritarian then that. Contrary to your deeply held belief that he actually won, he did not. The majority of America voted him out. Trying to subvert the will of the people is authoritarian. I’m sorry. You again have little problem with this because for some reason you think the ends justify the means. He says things you like and you think you are some objective holder of sacred truths so you think keeping him in power by any means necessary is a ok. It’s not.
if you aren’t denying this was committed by trump supporters but you don’t think it was an attempted coup then what exactly do you think it was? People storming the Capitol with weapons and blueprints and zip ties after announcing their desire to kill all the “commie” politicians and being granted entry by the law enforcement in charge of protecting those politicians while the president delayed sending in reinforcement can be classified as what exactly?
Not what happened at all. You didn’t listen to the integral phone call, did you?Trump is on phone trying to bully a secretary general to "find him votes"
No one knows if the laptop snatching was planned, but regardless, it could be that the corrupt regime used agents provocateurs to give MAGA bad pr and simultaneously it could be that the patriots used the opportunity to expose the fraud certifiers and confiscate evidence during the distraction. It’s not necessarily an either-or situation. What no one should doubt however, is that the corrupt regime has been panicking and severely overreacting since that day.but thats just it it can't be both.
It can't be an op to snatch laptops but then also an op to "demonize trumpers"
Just to clarify, it cannot possibly ever be a first amendment issue unless it’s on a publicly-owned website. Social media etc are privately-owned.Section 230 gives websites that host third-party published information the right to censor speech that is usually protected under the 1st Amendment. Section 230 literally gives them the privilege to do something which would be unconstitutional if the censorship was done in any other circumstance. The problem with social media like Twitter and Facebook is that they have presented themselves as a platform for everyone, but that their rules don't apply to everyone. If they start censoring discriminately by loose interpretations of their own rules, then they are behaving like a publisher and oughta be accountable for the content they do not censor just as for example the Washington Post would be accountable for whatever gets published on their website, be it from a journalist, reporter or a columnist.
What I meant was that they can hide behind Section 230 for their obvious discriminatory censorship and should be deprived of that right as long as that discrimination continues. It's kinda too late for that though.
uh nope. That’s not how it works at all.