The American “Coup d’etat”

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I read the VISUP article and it just left me all confused, without a clear narrative proposed by the author (maybe that was the point anyway...sow confusion). So were the events of Jan 6th done by JSOC and to what end since, as the article alleges, Trump was JSOC’s guy?? Was it to remove him or keep in office somehow?
JSOC just seems to be where a lot of Trump loyalist military commanders have come out of. There is a connection between JSOC, the Knights of Malta, Council for National Policy etc. Basically the radical Christian right, Dominionism and all that. Flynn and others are no longer a part of JSOC, but its likely they still have connections to it.

I would say the evidence shows overwhelmingly that Flynn and other "disgruntled generals or ex generals" were behind the Qanon psy op which was a part of the overall Trump operation which includes foreign intelligence from Russia and Israel. The Q psy op along with Trump's "stop the steal" propaganda served to create a disgruntled mass of cult followers who were psychologically manipulated to attack the Capitol, which to them they saw as a PATRIOTIC DUTY. I think its also likely that amongst the manipulated dupes were actual militia groups and military operatives as well, I mean plenty of them have been arrested so it isn't really debatable. What is debatable if these servicemen were acting as "off duty" civilians or as an actual operation.

What was the goal ? Anywhere from the most extreme (a soft coup) to the least extreme (intimidation of Congress) Trump tried every legal avenue to steal the election by lawsuits, then he turned to threatening and bribing election officials, when all this failed, Flynn and others talked about enacting MARTIAL LAW, to overturn the election. Then a bunch of ex generals put out a statement telling members of the military NOT TO TAKE PART IN A COUP. So I think they clearly knew something was going to go down. I also think a lot of people sold Trump out with whatever he was trying to pull on Jan 6, and it that contributed to it failing.

If you've followed VISUP at all before, he tends to focus on aspects regarding the factional conflicts between rival elite circles and mostly focuses on the network of Neo Fascists who have built up and controlled the far right network which today seeks to rebrand itself as "Populism"

In that regard, how do you think….the fact that literally days after Trump’s inauguration, there was a flurry of articles (see THIS and THIS for examples) about how Trump should/could be removed from office through a military coup,….that plays into what the article alleges? Were those 2017 articles just more evidence of faction fighting bubbling to the surface?
I absolutely believe its different factions of the elite fighting. Or possibly putting up the illusion of a fight, because there always seems to be figures who interact and help both sides. Honestly though I think it is real for the most part because I dont think you get American presidents and Israeli presidents assasinated, if its all just "theatre" I mean throughout the cold war we've had an Italian president assasinated as well, we've had legitimate attempts on Charles De Gualle. Supposedly FDR was killed, he also had a failed attempt on him. I think something is really going on.

With Trump I think the Fascists who back him in America are not strong enough politically, which is why they needed outside help from Israel and Russia.

and even though the Democrats are largely controlled by Zionist interests I think many of those elites were truly angered that their country was basically taken over by a Russian and Israeli asset. Its like I can be cool with you, but I dont want you sleeping in my bed. They went public about the Russia collusion but never went after the Israeli part. Perhaps it was even an agreement that Russia would take the blame so long as they left out discussion of Israeli collusion.

Then again, this section of the article made me revisit that talk I posted a while back on secret/covert warfare. (at 32-34mins it’s about de Gaulle coup and 42-45mins it’s about Gen. Maletti’s Piazza Fontana trial testimony but the whole talk is very worthwhile)

And now iam wondering if Jan 6th could have been Gladio all over again…maybe for some faction in military intelligence??
Well I think Gladio is a perfect example of what is going on. Because Gladio was basically the CIA aligning with Fascists in Europe to "combat the spread of socialism" The Trump gang are an extention of Gladio, its the same "anti-communist" network, and you could easily see it in their rhetoric over 4 years constantly fear mongering about "socialism" and "Antifa" and about how we needed authoritarianism and a police state to stop "the radical left from destroying america" And that in essence was the fear they used to manipulate Trumpers.

With all the fevered talk about right-wing domestic terrorism at the moment, we know that just like Islamic terrorism, it is going to be used to be accomplish a bunch of things up to/including Secession. We know that because some of bills up for consideration specifically mention “far-right” terrorism not “far left”.
Gladio was never really about framing anybody, even though yes they did do it to left wing organizations, but much of it was just simply about using proxy forces (terrorists, militias, paramilitary forces) to terrorize and brutalize political opposition into submission, and frankly I think thats exactly what went down on Jan 6.

Even islamic terrorism is mostly used to do the same thing. TERRORIZE political oppenents (look to Syria, Libya, Iraq, Iran, Yemen)

The vast majority of terrorism commited by these groups are not "false flags" to demonize Islam, they are simply terror attacks against political opposition.

I think you need to look at right wing terrorism in the same way.
 






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so...

Trump didn't get impeached?
He wasn't responsible for the thing at the capitol?

Is that correct?
Oh he was responsible. Anybody who isn't an outright shill at this point can see that.

The majority of Senate voted against Trump, its just that they need a 2/3 majority to convict him, and the Republicans are nothing but Trump sycophants.

Even the leader of the Senate, Republican Mitch McConnell admitted that Trump was responsible, yet he failed to vote to convict him. Thats how treasounous these criminals are.
 






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The fact that Biden signed 52 executive orders to reverse anything Trump did, should let everyone know that Biden is a Vatican/CCP puppet.
LOL. So what is Trump considering he signed more executive orders per year than Reagan, Bush sr., Clinton, Bush Jr., Obama ?

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/executive-orders

are you secretly in love with Trump ? or is he paying you for PR ?
People NEED to stop believing the predictive programming we've been spoon-fed and start looking at the results being achieved.
You need to get off the Trump train, and stop pretending you are not on it.
There was no "attack" on or "insurrection" at the Capitol. No so-called Trump supporter attacked, shot or bludgeoned anyone, including Officer Brian Sicknick.
Over 234 people arrested suggests otherwise. You couldn't see the truth if it stared you in the face.

No Trump supporter attacked anyone ? So you are just going to straight up LIE right now to protect daddy Trump ?

https://www.newsweek.com/capitol-police-union-reveals-cops-suffered-brain-injuries-loss-eye-after-pro-trump-riot-1564993

"I have officers who were not issued helmets prior to the attack who have sustained brain injuries. One officer has two cracked ribs and two smashed spinal discs. One officer is going to lose his eye, and another was stabbed with a metal fence stake."

Did that officer gouge his own eye out ? You are a terrible propagandist and liar.

result of the staged Capitol incident was the deployment of tens of thousands of national guard troops on the streets of Washington D.C. to guard the criminals people refer to as politicians.
Staged ? LOL Trumpers are being arrested left right and centre including fellow politicians, police, military, and pro Trump militia groups like Oathkeepers, 3 percenters, Proud Boys. Staged by whom ? At some point your pathetic lies need to deal with reality. Get your head out of the sand.

The protests at the Capitol, which very clearly included groups of people for and against Trump, were merely used as an excuse to introduce the idea of troops and militarized police on the streets, and for the sham impeachment proceedings. That way, when the troops are later used to forcibly administer vaccinations, and/or round-up "insurrectionists" and/or unlawfully collect lawfully acquired guns and ammunition from the American people, it will be more readily accepted.
Who was against Trump that rioted ? I'm amused to hear your response. You just make up any garbage and expect people to believe it.

What seems particularly amazing is that virtually everyone is ignoring the fact that in signing 52 or however many executive orders Joe Biden has signed thus far, he has proven beyond any reasonable doubt that he is nothing more than a NWO/Vatican/CCP puppet, if there was ever any doubt of that
whats amazing is that your arguments dont make ANY SENSE. Trump has signed more executive orders per year than any previous president since Jimmy Carter. Seriously you Trump people do not have any sense, you dont know what logic is, you just spout lies an nonsense like your daddy does.


. It also proves beyond any reasonable doubt that despite his many failings, Trump was obviously doing something that was slowing down the plans of the parasitic criminal class -- particularly by not committing U.S. troops to a war against Iran after they bombed the Al Asad airbase and another near Erbil in response to the criminal Soleimani assassination* -- or there would have been no need to replace him.
you've proven to be as deluded as any Qanon follower.
*exactly as the Israelis hoped would happen when they fed Trump the intel about Soleimani
Trump is Israel's guy. He has been their biggest puppet in history. Stop trying to pretend otherwise. Even during this impeachment Trump is being repped by Epstein lawyers, like he has been his whole life, because like Epstein Trump is an Israeli asset.
With their puppet Biden in place, the situation will digress at an accelerated pace. It would be ludicrous to believe otherwise in the face of the planned, magic virus induced economic collapse that is nearing completion.
seriously you haven't said one truthful thing in your little tirade. A bunch of unfounded nonsense.
 






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What iam wondering now is; things aren’t set in stone, these people make their plans but there are a lot of moving parts and/or unforeseen events happening. I said a while back that the Trump presidency further drew the curtain on elite factionalism. So what if the monied interests (that one faction) that backed Trump actually decides to financially back a group of generals (Gen. Flynn called for martial law not too long ago, clearly he wasn’t that much bothered by what that would do to his reputation and he cannot be the only one harboring this kind of idea) “to do something”, confident that now that a sizeable part of the population feels disaffected and that their vote doesn’t count and that they would support the rogue generals.

I think the monied interests behind Biden fully understand this and it’s probably why the troops are still there till March and could also be reason for the 60-day stand down. I thought it was interesting that WaPo ran with the FDR military coup story a week later (after Jan 6). Probably alluding, in between the lines, to what later came out in the TIME article (about powerful monied people that wanted Trump out)

"Smedley D. Butler was a highly decorated Marine Corps general who had received the Medal of Honor twice. He was beloved by his men before his retirement, and more so afterward when he spoke in support of the Bonus Army’s fight for early bonus payments for World War I service.

“He was wildly popular and was an outspoken critic of fascism and Mussolini at a time when there was really an impulse toward that throughout the world, including in the United States,” Denton said.
Given his opposition to fascism, Butler might not have seemed like a good fit for the job of coup leader,
but his support from veterans was more important to the Wall Street plotters. At the time, there were many more veterans than active-duty service members; if someone could summon them as a force of 500,000 to march on Washington, the government could fall without a shot being fired."
are you changing the way you are thinking about all this ?

You seemed to think it was all an attempt to frame Trumpers before ?

Smedley Butler and FDR are great examples, because essentially you are dealing with the same network that wanted to overthrow the government back then.

Back then it was the American Liberty League, today its the Council for National Policy.

This network does take over governments and assasinate presidents, and yeah I think team Biden had every right to be worried that something might go down.

I dont think Trump wanted to take it that far, I think at most he wanted a bloodless coup. I dont think he wanted to deal with the political or legal ramifications if he got men to start shooting and there was a bloodbath. So they wanted to simply swarm their way past police without getting anybody killed. Of course the Democrats are playing it up as much as possible comparing that day to 911, which is a joke, but at the same time I dont think people should downplay or outright dismiss what actually happened.

Let's also consider that in Qanon and similar conspiracies, team Trump has created a Frankenstein monster that they may not always be able to control (again similar to Al qaeda/ISIS) These radicals and cult members will take on a life of their own, and do things for their "cause" without centralized control or orders.
 






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I would say the evidence shows overwhelmingly that Flynn and other "disgruntled generals or ex generals" were behind the Qanon psy op which was a part of the overall Trump operation which includes foreign intelligence from Russia and Israel. The Q psy op along with Trump's "stop the steal" propaganda served to create a disgruntled mass of cult followers who were psychologically manipulated to attack the Capitol, which to them they saw as a PATRIOTIC DUTY.
Even before I read the VISUP article, I was web wandering over at beforeitsnews.com one day and I thought to myself : “this Qanon thing must be run by someone really high up the chain.” But to what end? Maybe the people running it knew what Trump was against from the start (the elite faction that wanted him out) and they decided to recruit an army (so to speak) of people who would not only vote for a second term but also who could be called upon/rallied ‘to follow the generals” if the Union breaks up (TPTB themselves anticipate this. See the Economist cover for this year. It doesn’t mean it’s going to happen this year but Covid and its economic fallout aren’t helping the situation either).
I think its also likely that amongst the manipulated dupes were actual militia groups and military operatives as well, I mean plenty of them have been arrested so it isn't really debatable. What is debatable if these servicemen were acting as "off duty" civilians or as an actual operation.
I believe that there were people in that crowd who were genuine Trump supporters and who also had military/LEO background. But come on, is that how you overthrow a government/stage a coup? Even the Burmese (Myanmar) military did better than that. Were they there to follow someone else’s (within the military not Trump) orders? Intimidation of congress and wanting “your voice to heard” is more likely. See this guy’s story.
If you've followed VISUP at all before, he tends to focus on aspects regarding the factional conflicts between rival elite circles and mostly focuses on the network of Neo Fascists who have built up and controlled the far right network which today seeks to rebrand itself as "Populism"
Tempest of Tempo posts links to his pieces quite abit and I read an article of his on rock & roll like 2/3yrs ago that he posted. The way he wrote this piece was kinda like what people were talking about in the Mark Passio thread…..You have intel but don’t want the real story to get out so you throw around a bunch of facts that don’t really lead anywhere and (purposefully) confusing the readers. But maybe that was just me. By bringing up de Gaulle though and hinting at a military coup, it is very possible that some thing could have indeed gone down between Nov 3-Jan 20, considering that prior to the election we were inundated with articles about the military getting involved with the elections. Trump voters weren’t yet disappointed so whoever would have run the military operation wouldn’t have succeeded. Things are different now though…
I absolutely believe its different factions of the elite fighting. Or possibly putting up the illusion of a fight, because there always seems to be figures who interact and help both sides. Honestly though I think it is real for the most part because I dont think you get American presidents and Israeli presidents assasinated, if its all just "theatre" I mean throughout the cold war we've had an Italian president assasinated as well, we've had legitimate attempts on Charles De Gualle. Supposedly FDR was killed, he also had a failed attempt on him. I think something is really going on.
I too believe elite factionalism is a real thing (see Renegade’s thread on Dylan and the 55 families). These families like “ordinary families” will also disagree on which car to use or what route to take to a destination they all agree on. Under Trump, the collapse would have happened a little bit slower, mitigating backlash from the sleeping masses. So whoever wanted Biden in wants it all rushed, the Great reset happening quickly and now but the problem is the populace isn’t going to willingly go along and violence remains a present threat.
are you changing the way you are thinking about all this ?

You seemed to think it was all an attempt to frame Trumpers before ?
I was thinking more about post-Jan 6th, wondering how military people (pretty much in every country) will react when the Great reset gets fully underway. These people have family too!
 






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Agreed. The best laid plans of mice and men...


One would think so given how obvious the fraud is, but if history has taught us anything (Drake, the "American Spring", Qanon, etc.), nobody is going to do this for us.

Most people are so terrified of the government/beast system that we've created, that they continue to feed it, even knowing that it is, in fact, a terrorist organization. So people even at this late hour are still funding their own demise, and most are still doing whatever the government tells them to do, including shutting down their family businesses, locking themselves inside of their homes, and lining up to be injected with the latest experimental poisons, etc.

And that fear/faithlessness will unfortunately continue, until the U.S. and U.K. drag the entire world into WW3 by facing off against Russia and China.

Ephraim = the English (U.K.)
Manasseh = the Anglo-Saxon American people (U.S.)

Revelation 11:1-14
11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure The Temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
11:2 But the court which is without The Temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the Holy City (Jerusalem) shall they tread under foot forty [and] two months (1260 days/years).
11:3 And I will give [power] unto my Two Witnesses (Isa. 43:12), and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred [and] threescore "days", clothed in sackcloth. (42 months of 30 "days" each = 1260 "days", each day for a year - Num. 14:34; Ezekiel 4:6; Dan. 12:7).
11:4 These are the two "Olive" trees, and the two candlesticks (Ephraim and Manasseh) standing before the God of the Earth.
11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire (gun-fire which looked as though it) proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it "rain" (spiritually) not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over "waters" (ch. 17:15) to turn them to blood (reds/communists), and to smite the Earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
11:7 And when they shall have finished their Testimony (the 1260 "days" ended on 9/Dec./1917 - the day that Jerusalem was liberated from Gentile domination by Israel - British forces - Ezekiel 25:14), the beast (system - Satanic-Communism) that ascendeth out of the Bottomless Pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and KILL them.
11:8 And their dead bodies [shall lie] in the street of the Great City, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified (Jerusalem).
11:9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations ("waters") shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
11:10 And they that dwell upon the Earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these Two Prophets ("Olive" trees) tormented them that dwelt on the Earth.
11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of Life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up here. And they ascended up to heaven in a "Cloud"; and their enemies beheld them.
11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city (Jerusalem) fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven (Matt. 21:9).
11:14 The second woe is past; [and], behold, the third woe cometh quickly.


We sent out over 20,000,000 emails between November 2011 and November 2012, inviting people on both sides of the Atlantic to do exactly that: peacefully occupy Parliament on the 5th of November 2012, and the U.S. Capitol on the 11th of November 2012 (Armistice/Veterans Day) with one goal in mind: reinstate our Creator's Law, so the Jubilee could be declared.

The Jubilee is the TRUE "Great Reset" that happens every 50th year according to The Law, when all debts are forgiven, and the ancestral lands are returned to those who have lost theirs, i.e. are without land, so they can achieve financial freedom. One would think in a world literally drowning in debt, that with so much on offer hundreds of thousands, if not millions would have shown up to help send the message that enough is enough. Instead only a few hundred showed up.

The monied interests behind Biden are the monied interests that currently rule the world, at least for a little while longer. They're not about to let Trump back into power, because he didn't do everything t.h.e.y. told him to do. Biden, or Biden's successor (should lunch box Joe kick the bucket while in office) will do whatever they tell him/her, which is why it's going to go much faster now.

It would be great to be able to share better short-term news, but this is our current reality. There simply is no other way to show us our individual and collective insanity, in putting our trust in these evil systems and the liars that run them instead of in the Truth.

The good, longer-term news is this wake-up call (going through what is about to happen) will be exactly what's needed to put a permanent end to every corporate fictional governments, corporate fictional courts, corporate fictional organized religions and the rest of the corporate fictions that are destroying this planet and making everyone's lives miserable.
I think this interesting Pepe Escobar piece (December 16) covers some of the points you raise and my point(s) on secession/unpredictable events. If the threat is real, of a military coup, from factions within the military and with retired generals, then we will definitely see that the troops will not leave DC. Threats and attacks will probably be conjured to justify the permanent military presence and protect the Biden presidency. Indeed, dangers abound

"Beyond the raucous altercations on whether the presidential election was fraudulent, these are the key factual points.

  1. A series of rules in mostly swing states were changed, through courts, bypassing state legislatures, without transparence, before the election, paving the way to facilitate fraud schemes.
  2. Biden was de facto coronated by AP, Google and Twitter even before the final, official result, and weeks before the electoral college vote this past Monday.
  3. Every serious, professional audit to determine whether all received and tabulated votes were valid was de facto squashed.
In any Global South latitude where the empire did “interfere” in local elections, color revolution-style, this set of facts would be regarded by scores of imperial officials, in a relentless propaganda blitz, as evidence of a coup.

On the recent Supreme Court ruling, a Deep State intel source told me, “the Supreme Court did not like to see half the country rioting against them, and preferred the decision be made by each state in the House of Representatives. That is the only way to handle this without jeopardizing the union. Even prominent Democrats I know realize that the fix took place. The error was to steal too many votes. This grand theft indicts the whole system, that has always been corrupt.”

Dangers abound. On the propaganda front, for instance, far right nationalists are absolutely convinced that U.S. media can be brought to heel only by occupying the six main offices of the top conglomerates, plus Facebook, Google and Twitter: then you’d have full control of the U.S. propaganda mill.

Another Deep State source, now retired, adds that, “the U.S. Army does not want to intervene as their soldiers may not obey orders.

Many of these far right nationalists were officers in the armed forces. They know where the nuclear missiles and bombers are. There are many in sympathy with them as the U.S. falls apart in lockdowns.


A perverse form of blowback is already in effect as informed global citizens may now see, crystal clear, the astonishing depth and reach of Deep State power – the ultimate decider of what happens next in Dystopia Central.

Both options are dire.


  1. The election stands, even if considered fraudulent by nearly half of U.S. public opinion. To quote that peerless existentialist, The Dude, there’s no rug tying the room together anymore.
  2. Was the election to be somehow overturned before January 20, the Deep State would go Shock and Awe to finish the job.
In either case, The Deplorables will become The Ungovernables.

It gets worse. A possible implosion of the union – with internal convulsions leading to a paroxysm of violence – may even be coupled with an external explosion, as in a miscalculated imperial adventure."


*I read all the comments to Brandon's article. Its all very interesting really.
 






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reading through those 2 articles you posted I'm reminded of the book "Turner Diaries" written by the white supremacist William Pierce, who was a former member of the John Birch Society, and I'm wondering if he had foreknowledge of some plan and the book was laying it out. Many parts of it seem eerily similar to the current climate.

The basic plot of the novel.

- Federal Government under the Democrats passes a law confiscating ALL civilian firearms.
(the CNP faction has been fearmongering about this for decades, and assault rifles were temporarily banned under Clinton)

- the main Character Turner joins a "white revolutionary movement"
(Proud Boys, Oathkeepers, 3 Percenters, Attomwaffen, but basically Trump revived the reactionary right movement and brought white racism out into the open again, the "alt right" was a revived white nationalist movement.

- the white revolutionary movement known as "the Order" wages guerrilla war against government
(We've seen acts of sedition by these type of groups against the Federal government, going back to the IRS attack in 2010, the occupation of a Federal office in Oregon in 2016 by far right miliitias, including the 3 Percenters, plots to kidnap Governor of Michigan, the Nashville Christmas bombing targeting AT&T, or the Capitol Riot on Jan 6)

- the Federal Government is described as being run by Jews
(Going back to the Protocols, the Fascist elites have always promoted a "jewish conspiracy theory", the "alt light" replace Jews with "Globalists" and "Socialists" What is deeply ironic is that the Fascists only use the "Jewish conspiracy" to attack progressive agendas and "globalism" yet want to ignore the fact that there are plenty of Jews behind their right wing agenda. Russia too have been exposing Zionism through their propaganda yet want you to ignore that they are controlled by the Zionist Chabad Lubavitch)

- the Federal government in response to acts of terror begins implementing repressive laws and expanding surveillance to spy on citizens
(this is the exact narrative the radical right are pushing that will happen, and it appears that team Biden are flirting with new laws in response to Jan 6)

-President gives speech denouncing racists in Washington and is attacked by mortars, forced to evacuate
(similar to Biden denouncing racists during innauguration, with Washington in lockdown due to a supposed military threat)

-there are anti-racist marches going on which turn violent and become riots
(Black Lives Matter)

-the revolutionary Order is run by disgruntled Military Generals
(Michael Flynn and Trump loyalists in JSOC)

-Jews, Blacks, Hispanics, and Liberal whites are in the end massacred and lynched in California which has been taken over by the Order
(We've seen Qanon and right wing propaganda demonize liberals to the point that they are child molesting satan worshippers. If you've looked at comments sections on line and social media you will see that vitriol has been built up against these groups and there have been plenty of hate crimes and mass shootings targeting blacks, jews, siks, muslims, hispanics. This has been building for a long time and will likely get worse)


The current climate is very similar to the distopia outlined in Turner Diaries. There is also "Victoria" a similar story written by William Lind, another key figure of the radical right who coined the term "4th Generation warfare"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth-generation_warfare

Fourth-generation warfare (4GW) is conflict characterized by a blurring of the lines between war and politics, combatants and civilians.

The term was first used in 1980 by a team of United States analysts, including paleoconservative William S. Lind, to describe warfare's return to a decentralized form. In terms of generational modern warfare, the fourth generation signifies the nation states' loss of their near-monopoly on combat forces, returning to modes of conflict common in pre-modern times.

The simplest definition includes any war in which one of the major participants is not a state but rather a violent non-state actor.


I'm thinking this violent "non state" actor will be this radical right movement that is backed by disgruntled military and police, and this is precicely why the Council for National Policy controls gun advocacy organizations like the NRA and Gun Owners of America, and why I believe there is a massive pushback against any gun control, because the CNP WANTS A HEAVILY ARMED CITIZENRY, which it can use to wage war on the Democratic governement.

Linds novel "Victoria" like the "Turner Diaries" is another story about, well lets see how Wikipedia describes it

Lind also wrote Victoria: A Novel of 4th Generation War, in which a group of "Christian Marines" leads an armed resistance against cultural Marxism as the American federal government collapses.[19]

There is a lot going on behind the scenes and these agendas have been building for easily over half a century.
 






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Oathkeepers planned to ferry guns accross the Potomac River for Capitol Hill insurrection.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9251783/Oath-Keepers-rioter-Thomas-Caldwell-plotted-ferry-heavy-weapons-Potomac-prosecutors-say.html

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/538621-oath-keeper-wanted-to-load-boat-with-weapons-for-potomac

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-02-11/feds-man-charged-in-riot-suggested-bringing-weapons-by-boat

text that Oathkeeper Caldwell sent to militia member

“How many people either in the militia or not (who are still supportive of our efforts to save the Republic) have a boat on a trailer that could handle a Potomac crossing?” Caldwell wrote, according to prosecutors. “If we had someone standing by at a dock ramp (one near the Pentagon for sure) we could have our Quick Response Team with the heavy weapons standing by, quickly load them and ferry them across the river to our waiting arms."
 






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Here is the video which was removed from my previous post which is interesting but unable to find a way to expand it full screen. They are removing this one left and right. - https://beforeitsnews.com/protests-demonstrations/2021/02/everything-wrong-with-the-capitol-shooting-in-21-minutes-or-less-great-video-2458990.html
Very interesting video. It helps to make sense of what has been in the news lately such as:

a)That Ashli Babbit’s shooter shouldn’t be charged for any crime. Ofcourse, if she isn’t dead then there is no point in charging him with anything. Her own family members would be outraged over this if she really were dead.
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b)Curious actions from a judge over Jayden X aka John Sullivan who also managed to get interviewed by Anderson Cooper
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Going by the DHS document in the video, something like this would definitely have been rehearsed somehow, somewhere. This rehearsal could have been the “recon tours” supposedly given to “trump supporters” before Jan 6th.

The officers caught on video waving the protestors in (past the barricades) and the ones who just stepped aside from the doors letting them in were probably in on the “rehearsal” otherwise, they would have already been charged with serious crimes.
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@Maes17, you said you watched the clip of her shooting 6 times to convince yourself that it wasn’t all real and that she didn’t die because she got duped by Q. Iam interested in your thoughts on the video above if you haven’t seen it already.
 






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reading through those 2 articles you posted I'm reminded of the book "Turner Diaries" written by the white supremacist William Pierce, who was a former member of the John Birch Society, and I'm wondering if he had foreknowledge of some plan and the book was laying it out. Many parts of it seem eerily similar to the current climate.

The basic plot of the novel.

- Federal Government under the Democrats passes a law confiscating ALL civilian firearms.
(the CNP faction has been fearmongering about this for decades, and assault rifles were temporarily banned under Clinton)

- the main Character Turner joins a "white revolutionary movement"
(Proud Boys, Oathkeepers, 3 Percenters, Attomwaffen, but basically Trump revived the reactionary right movement and brought white racism out into the open again, the "alt right" was a revived white nationalist movement.

- the white revolutionary movement known as "the Order" wages guerrilla war against government
(We've seen acts of sedition by these type of groups against the Federal government, going back to the IRS attack in 2010, the occupation of a Federal office in Oregon in 2016 by far right miliitias, including the 3 Percenters, plots to kidnap Governor of Michigan, the Nashville Christmas bombing targeting AT&T, or the Capitol Riot on Jan 6)

- the Federal Government is described as being run by Jews
(Going back to the Protocols, the Fascist elites have always promoted a "jewish conspiracy theory", the "alt light" replace Jews with "Globalists" and "Socialists" What is deeply ironic is that the Fascists only use the "Jewish conspiracy" to attack progressive agendas and "globalism" yet want to ignore the fact that there are plenty of Jews behind their right wing agenda. Russia too have been exposing Zionism through their propaganda yet want you to ignore that they are controlled by the Zionist Chabad Lubavitch)

- the Federal government in response to acts of terror begins implementing repressive laws and expanding surveillance to spy on citizens
(this is the exact narrative the radical right are pushing that will happen, and it appears that team Biden are flirting with new laws in response to Jan 6)

-President gives speech denouncing racists in Washington and is attacked by mortars, forced to evacuate
(similar to Biden denouncing racists during innauguration, with Washington in lockdown due to a supposed military threat)

-there are anti-racist marches going on which turn violent and become riots
(Black Lives Matter)

-the revolutionary Order is run by disgruntled Military Generals
(Michael Flynn and Trump loyalists in JSOC)

-Jews, Blacks, Hispanics, and Liberal whites are in the end massacred and lynched in California which has been taken over by the Order
(We've seen Qanon and right wing propaganda demonize liberals to the point that they are child molesting satan worshippers. If you've looked at comments sections on line and social media you will see that vitriol has been built up against these groups and there have been plenty of hate crimes and mass shootings targeting blacks, jews, siks, muslims, hispanics. This has been building for a long time and will likely get worse)


The current climate is very similar to the distopia outlined in Turner Diaries. There is also "Victoria" a similar story written by William Lind, another key figure of the radical right who coined the term "4th Generation warfare"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth-generation_warfare

Fourth-generation warfare (4GW) is conflict characterized by a blurring of the lines between war and politics, combatants and civilians.

The term was first used in 1980 by a team of United States analysts, including paleoconservative William S. Lind, to describe warfare's return to a decentralized form. In terms of generational modern warfare, the fourth generation signifies the nation states' loss of their near-monopoly on combat forces, returning to modes of conflict common in pre-modern times.

The simplest definition includes any war in which one of the major participants is not a state but rather a violent non-state actor.


I'm thinking this violent "non state" actor will be this radical right movement that is backed by disgruntled military and police, and this is precicely why the Council for National Policy controls gun advocacy organizations like the NRA and Gun Owners of America, and why I believe there is a massive pushback against any gun control, because the CNP WANTS A HEAVILY ARMED CITIZENRY, which it can use to wage war on the Democratic governement.

Linds novel "Victoria" like the "Turner Diaries" is another story about, well lets see how Wikipedia describes it

Lind also wrote Victoria: A Novel of 4th Generation War, in which a group of "Christian Marines" leads an armed resistance against cultural Marxism as the American federal government collapses.[19]

There is a lot going on behind the scenes and these agendas have been building for easily over half a century.
I’ve never read the books but Col. Valerio has repeatedly brought those subjects up before, notably Lind. You’ve made it all the more interesting now to actually look for the books. He likely had foreknowledge and it doesn’t help when the gov’t runs these exercises such as Jade Helm.

I think everyone should just prepare for the seemingly inevitable….that America will survive the United States and as Brandon repeatedly says that secession means war (especially if it is geographical). The moneyed interests behind Biden were going to attempt the same if they didn’t get their way (see Transition Intergrity Project war gaming & Hillary’s exhortations for him to NOT concede in any way). There is a reason we were inundated with articles pre-election on a coming civil war. Which is why my thoughts turned to some of the military brass (active & retired) because they can’t be sitting on their hands as everything falls apart when they imagine they could also run things. Although I suspect (if it all came to that) the Biden team would hold up the secessionists with war abroad and engaging the troops.

Apparently, red state governors are recalling their national guard troops in DC and the blue states are replacing them.

Interesting times indeed!
I'll watch the Empire Files vid you posted when i can.

- Federal Government under the Democrats passes a law confiscating ALL civilian firearms.
(the CNP faction has been fearmongering about this for decades, and assault rifles were temporarily banned under Clinton)
There is no way that you haven't seen this clip by now :)
 






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Very interesting video. It helps to make sense of what has been in the news lately such as:

a)That Ashli Babbit’s shooter shouldn’t be charged for any crime. Ofcourse, if she isn’t dead then there is no point in charging him with anything. Her own family members would be outraged over this if she really were dead.
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b)Curious actions from a judge over Jayden X aka John Sullivan who also managed to get interviewed by Anderson Cooper
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Going by the DHS document in the video, something like this would definitely have been rehearsed somehow, somewhere. This rehearsal could have been the “recon tours” supposedly given to “trump supporters” before Jan 6th.

The officers caught on video waving the protestors in (past the barricades) and the ones who just stepped aside from the doors letting them in were probably in on the “rehearsal” otherwise, they would have already been charged with serious crimes.
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@Maes17, you said you watched the clip of her shooting 6 times to convince yourself that it wasn’t all real and that she didn’t die because she got duped by Q. Iam interested in your thoughts on the video above if you haven’t seen it already.
When I first saw the video they wanted us to see, I was enraged and thought she was murdered. When I first started to look at the video we speak of I felt dirty at first thinking this could turn tacky, but then bam! This video which you can barely find really, really shed light on what happened and I now think it was all BS. Has anyone seen an obituary on Ashli that is real?
The so-called coup keeps falling apart. Wikipedia still has the officer that died of a stroke, still listed as death from being hit with a fire extinguisher and news agencies are slow to correct it. There is no video of anyone hitting a soul with a fire extinguisher. Yeah, this coup had a bunch of people with pitchforks at best, on the whole, save planted pipe bo9bs. Such a set up but dumbed down America buys it via the media pounded it into them.

As for some people being ex-military as the MSM likes to scream....well, if you go to a grocery store many of the people who work there or a hospital are ex-military. So, they just twist their words for dramatic effect. I mean, duh, there are ex-military members involved in everything. Now, Pelosi is going to open a 9-11 style investigation on the event. None of this ends well people. One side will take it too far and we know which one that will be. But once the first strike is taken on the people, they will almost assuredly stand up for what they think is right in their hearts. Team Blue seems as if they are out for blood and you generally find what you seek. People are waking up slowly to the politicians on the whole or both sides and what happens when people come together? That is what they fear folks. That is why they divide us.
 






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I think the main thing to take away from this is not whether the rioters / instigators were Antifa, BLM, Boogaloo, Oath Keepers, or whatnot, but how their actions have influenced the narrative and public perception. That's what psyops intend to do. There are double and even triple agents used by intelligence, so an Antifa masquerading as MAGA could really just be neither.

I think it's obvious that January 6 has been exploited to the fullest, from the minute they resumed the senate and house debates, by the status quo political-media complex against Trump and MAGA. The rest is mist.
I think "Jayden X" is the perfect example of the point you made. Just "chaos agents" that don't really belong to any group, out to get the job done.




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L Brent Bozell IV arrested for Capitol Riot

https://theintercept.com/2021/02/17/capitol-riot-right-wing-brent-bozell/

Again more evidence that this was a politically motivated coup.

For those who dont know about the connected Bozell family.

Bozell the first- anti-"New Deal" businessman

Bozell Jr.-
married William F Buckley's sister and best friends of William (CIA/Skull&Bones) Buckley, worked for Joseph McCarthy and Barry Goldwater, supporter of John Birch Society

Bozell III- Council for National Policy member, founded Media Research Centre,

Bozell IV- arrested at Capitol Riot, believes in Qanon
 






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What has happened then?
I am finding the news over here confusing and contradictory
The majority of senators vote the impeachment is constitutional, however, the case for impeachment is even weaker than “The Russians!” Democratic leadership apply the strategy of using poorly fabricated evidence—much like the Steele dossier from the first Quixotic attempt.

Impeachment managers are caught twice manufacturing evidence, (and do not even try to defend why they do it):

1. Make a claim, to frame Trump, about something a Republican senator allegedly said on Jan 6. The Republican senator (Mike Lee) speaks up and demands the “evidence” be stricken from the record, subsequently withdrawn by the Democrats, “on the grounds that it is not true.” Lol

The case went from bad to worse...

2. Eric Swalwell presents an allegedly deleted Tweet, photoshopped (badly) to appear as if it was from the ‘verified’ account of Jennifer
Lynn Lawrence—an attempt at giving it legitimacy (it had never been a verified account)—in addition to changing the date of the original Tweet from Jan 3, 2020 to Jan 3 2021, in order to make it appear relevant to Jan 6, 2021. They were called out on all of it. Lmao

The absurdity behind the show trial was convincing to senate Republicans, whom, after voting in a majority to go through with the impeachment, felt their intelligence was being insulted by the impeachment managers’ flimsy case, and voted to acquit.

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It is a bit odd why they are sweeping the impeachment trial under the rug. But Americans should be insulted they still have our troops all over D.C. It is such a double standard of team blue to act like a certain man was to blame while not addressing their insane tactics as being just as bad. When you stoke fires by claiming others stoked it... it is the pot calling the kettle black. Unity. That is what Biden said he was about. Where is the outrage in a similar measure after he gets in and fans flames further? And this is just starting. Commissions on domestic terrorism is the last thing anyone should attempt who seeks healing.
 






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Just a recap now that it’s been completed


Nov 3, 2020 10 p.m. EST

Trump leads Georgia by 120,000 votes with 93% in.

Trump leads Wisconsin by 200,000 votes with 65% in.

Trump leads Penn. by 800,000 votes with 56% in.

Trump leads Mich. by 400,000 votes with 61% in.

Trump leads N.C. by 60,000 votes with 97% in. (Trump would win this state but N.C. stayed at 97% for 3 days because they were trying to figure out a way to get Tillis R senate seat.)

Trump was over 90% on that dial thingy of being elected again.


And then those swing states stopped counting votes, for almost 6 hours... Then there was dumps of hundreds of thousands of votes for Biden at 4 a.m., but that still was not enough... over Nov. 4,5,6,7,8, Trump's vote would get eroded by a couple thousand votes every 4 hours in Penn. and Georgia and where did those votes come from?

The 4 biggest Cities in the States where all the Riggers live to either get their E.B.T or to work one of the millions of useless Govt. jobs that are another form of welfare for them.

In those 4 Rigger cities they miraculously had Biden outperforming even '08 Obama in turn-out and votes, but every other similar city in the other 46 states had Biden underperforming even '16 Hillary
 






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Like they (elite) weren’t already doing it?
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Like they won’t choose themselves? I think the article is telling in & of itself that America has entered into a new territory altogether. I think that this was the whole point of the 2020 election. After demoralizing the public to lose faith in the electoral system (whatever little was left of that faith), they now readily present suggestions intimating a monarchical or more appropriately a feudal system (taking the great rest into account). Are we to believe the elites are going to stop at the presidency? What about senators, representatives? I remember watching Whitney Webb, on the planned chaos for the 2020 election, saying something similar…to the effect that the public form of government in the US would cease to be through that chaos and the real (hidden) gov’t would show it’s face.

We know it’s eventually going (iam guessing they are tired of hiding behind the curtains) to happen, when not if, is the question. But I hazard it will be in an altered landscape….politically, socially and economically.

Funny, when you actually think about it. The elites stepping forward from the shadows to anoint themselves or their stooges as rulers….DC would look exactly as it does right now. They would need a permanent & LOYAL military presence to protect themselves from being overthrown….disregarding the changes to the legal systems that all that would require.
 






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If life imitates this CIA-sponsored art (tv show Designated Survivor), then we shouldn’t be surprised. Events are following the script so far (alt-right figures in the show are the culprits) I wouldn’t be caught off guard if something like this happened and the Press said that those who entered the Capitol strategically placed bombs to be detonated during the inauguration or SOTU.
Straight out of Hollywood....
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"Intelligence agencies have uncovered threats from far-right extremists to “blow up” the US Capitol when President Biden delivers his first joint address to both houses of Congress, a top Capitol law enforcement official revealed Thursday.

Acting Capitol Police Chief Yogananda Pittman made the revelation while testifying before the House Appropriations Committee alongside acting House Sergeant-at-Arms Timothy Blodgett as part of Congress’ broader probe into the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.

“We know that members of the militia groups that were present on Jan. 6 have stated their desires that they want to blow up the Capitol and kill as many members as possible with a direct nexus to the State of the Union,” Pittman said, noting that the date for the address had not yet been set.

“So based on that information,” the acting police chief continued, “we think that it’s prudent that Capitol Police maintain its enhanced and robust security posture until we address those vulnerabilities.”

 






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